High heels, makeup, and masculinity

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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You can make yourself look like a drag queen if you want. You completely have the right and the ability to do this and nobody can stop you. But every person who sees you also has the right to feel about it in however way they want to feel, which for most people is most often is going to be a discusted feeling. And if you always see people reacting to you in a disgusted way, will this not just make you feel worse? You have full freedom to make uncommon choices, but you can not force anybody to agree with it.

I was talking mostly about the makeup with this. And also about dresses, if you wear a modern dress which is all made for women. I was thinking about it and I think that the outfit that many greeks and romans would wear, and also what many men in Saudi Arabia wear now, these are kind of like dresses. But they look very different from a woman's dress.

It would be interesting if you do create a completely new kind of clothes. Maybe you can make something that many other people like and becomes popular.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

If somebody starts from the point of wanting to imitate a woman in looks or in behaviour, the certain result is he is basically going to turn himself into some circus clown or freak. There is no possible good result from this, because it is not even starting from a goal or an intention that is good. If the person wants to have more feminine energy to his soul, these actions will accomplish zero of this goal. It is entirely unrelated. And the worst thing about it that makes him the most of a freak, is that he does not do any of these things because he genuinely wants to. The reason he does these things is from the idea that it is a requirement on the way to another goal. For an example, if a man wants to have long hair because he likes it that way, I have full respect and support for this. If a man does not like his hair to be long, but he does it anyway because he is trying to have more feminine energy in his soul and he thinks the long hair will accomplish that, then he is a freak and I don't respect him. I guess I should say that my definition of a freak would be somebody who has no connection to reality, and is self-harmful because of this confusion. It would be harmful for the 2nd guy to have long hair because that is the opposite of what he actually wants and he is only doing it for some confused and ridiculous reason.

This example of hair is pretty dumb, but you can apply this to anything that people do to purposefully try to "be" more feminine. But there is nothing feminine about this, it is only a clown doing clown things. He is not "being" anything, and the only thing he is doing is suppressing and hating his own self and trying to force himself to fit some unrealistic image. And the worst part is it accomplishes nothing, and it is all for no reason.

You are not going to become a god by wearing high heal shoes. You are not going to become a god by covering your face with clown makeup. You are not going to become a god by wearing a dress. All of these things are just retarded, with no basis in nature. It is for no good reason. If you wear high heal shoes because you think they are comfortable, and high quality, and they really are your favorite shoes, then there is nothing wrong with this. If a man wears a dress because it is comfortable and he actually likes it, it is unusual but there is nothing wrong with it. But doing it because of falsely believing that there is any good reason for it, that is the problem. I mean the actual action is not really the problem, but it is the confusion and stupid nonsense ideas that influence the action that are the real problem.


None of that shit is feminine, and it all has absolutely nothing to do with what a feminine energy current is. Feminine energies are the magnetic energies, when masculine energies are the electric energies. Feminine energies are contracting, and masculine energies are expanding. Feminine psychic energies lead to sensitivity and being able to feel the interactions between different energy currents, and masculine psychic energies lead to holding within you large amounts of power, and being able to project your own energy currents into the world. Intuition is one of the world's greatest strengths, and this is a pure feminine energy. These are just quick examples, and as somebody has their own spiritual experiences he will understand this better. But these are what a feminine energy actually are.

So wearing high heal shoes, dresses, makeup, wigs, other weird shit, it can not be said strongly enough about how these things have absolutely nothing to do with any kind of feminine energy or any kind of spirituality. These are the jew's replacement for spirituality after they have burnt our libraries and erased our history. When they see us trying to understand ourselves, this is the shit they try to give to us as a replacement to distract us. Then they laugh at us for being retarded and falling for the ridiculous hoax.


And about high heal shoes and makeup, I think that these things are just harmful and stupid in general regardless of which of the 2 genders somebody is. I am always feeling disappointed when I see a beautiful woman covered up by makeup, because the only thing it does is cover up and hide how beautiful she already is. It is like blocking out the sun. It is like covering up a goddess with a wooden mask. It's just sad. And if a woman is not much beautiful, the makeup is still not doing anything to help her. It is obvious that she is purposefully trying to hide and cover herself. The only thing I see makeup being helpful for is if somebody has a real medical problem, like if a burn victim wants to cover that up and look more like everyone else. Like a prosthetic. It would be useful and helpful for this.

And high heal shoes are the worst. They do horrible and permanent damage to the person's feet which hill hurt and harm her for the rest of her life. When she is young she can ignore this pain, but when she is old will she even be able to walk? The entire structure of the feet changes. Bones move to different places. Tendons and ligaments stretch and move and maybe tear. Muscles are atrophied and destroyed in some places, and are overly stressed in other places. It is a crime against humanity that these harmful shoes are promoted to be popular. And mostly I think that the biggest problem is safety. These shoes do not allow a woman to run away if she has to. What if she is in danger? And with those shoes on, she is just like a deer on the pavement. Barely able to walk and completely unable to run. The only way I could ever agree with this is if she also has a gun to protect herself with, and has a lot of training to be able to effectively use it. And is completely sober.

So how would these strange things have any spiritual benefit to a man? They have no benefit to a woman either. These things have no relation to nature, and no relation to anyone's soul.

It's like what I tried explaining to Jack. It's how something is used, not what it is. If you use makeup in a creative way like playing with colors and designs around the eyes to suit the outfit you're wearing, that would be a form of feminine expression and tapping into the creative mind. Using makeup in such a way draws the eye of others to look at your face as well. That's a trick people should try to learn when you're figuring out how to dress yourself - where do you want people's attention to be drawn to most? Wherever you want people to focus, you make it stand out in some way while neutralizing the other areas, and create a balance between highlights of color and neutrals. An outfit for all intents and purposes is effectively wearable art. The more harmonious the art with your body is, the better it's going to look on you.

Men can wear dresses perfectly well IF they wear a dress that is meant for their body and suits their features, while balancing the rest of the outfit. Unfortunately, males wanting to break the social restrictions with these things often end up wearing a dress that was made for a woman's body and features, with no understanding of how to balance the outfit, and it makes them look quite ridiculous. That's where you get your clown situation.

These are just a couple other areas where a lot of people go wrong in approaching clothing or makeup, and breaking social restrictions.

To be honest, a lot the clothes that I see for 'women' nowadays.. when I try them on.. they look like I am wearing a potato bag. (Apparently baggier clothes are the norm now.)

If I get a size smaller I can't move my arms properly, and it still looks like Im wearing a potato bag. The seams around the armhole are cutting into me and the overall fit is restricting my movement.
I am bringing this up because you may find mens clothes boring (and tbh they totally are) but seeing the same clothes in all pastel isn't doing it for me either. Neither is it a good thing for womens clothing to look like mens.
Most of what I own looks unflattering on me because of the above reason.

I've never worn much make-up in my life, but the point of make-up is to enhance your natural beauty (for most people in a healthy way, anyway)... NOT to look like a clown or a barbie doll.
Unless you're talking about going on stage and having a lot of bright lights shining onto you. But thats entirely a different topic.

Also I thought this was a mens clothing/dressing topic? But its transforming into some kind of 'bashing this' & transgender debate ...

Next thing you know they start bringing up the argument that push-up bra's should not be worn by women because its 'unnatural' and leading men on ...

Proper skincare should be for both genders. To wear or to not wear make-up should be a personal choice. Not something that someone else thinks is something one should or should not wear.

Also proper skincare, is not, "wear make-up".

 

[Jack]

If somebody starts from the point of wanting to imitate a woman in looks or in behaviour, the certain result is he is basically going to turn himself into some circus clown or freak. There is no possible good result from this, because it is not even starting from a goal or an intention that is good. If the person wants to have more feminine energy to his soul, these actions will accomplish zero of this goal. It is entirely unrelated. And the worst thing about it that makes him the most of a freak, is that he does not do any of these things because he genuinely wants to. The reason he does these things is from the idea that it is a requirement on the way to another goal. For an example, if a man wants to have long hair because he likes it that way, I have full respect and support for this. If a man does not like his hair to be long, but he does it anyway because he is trying to have more feminine energy in his soul and he thinks the long hair will accomplish that, then he is a freak and I don't respect him. I guess I should say that my definition of a freak would be somebody who has no connection to reality, and is self-harmful because of this confusion. It would be harmful for the 2nd guy to have long hair because that is the opposite of what he actually wants and he is only doing it for some confused and ridiculous reason.

This example of hair is pretty dumb, but you can apply this to anything that people do to purposefully try to "be" more feminine. But there is nothing feminine about this, it is only a clown doing clown things. He is not "being" anything, and the only thing he is doing is suppressing and hating his own self and trying to force himself to fit some unrealistic image. And the worst part is it accomplishes nothing, and it is all for no reason.

You are not going to become a god by wearing high heal shoes. You are not going to become a god by covering your face with clown makeup. You are not going to become a god by wearing a dress. All of these things are just retarded, with no basis in nature. It is for no good reason. If you wear high heal shoes because you think they are comfortable, and high quality, and they really are your favorite shoes, then there is nothing wrong with this. If a man wears a dress because it is comfortable and he actually likes it, it is unusual but there is nothing wrong with it. But doing it because of falsely believing that there is any good reason for it, that is the problem. I mean the actual action is not really the problem, but it is the confusion and stupid nonsense ideas that influence the action that are the real problem.


None of that shit is feminine, and it all has absolutely nothing to do with what a feminine energy current is. Feminine energies are the magnetic energies, when masculine energies are the electric energies. Feminine energies are contracting, and masculine energies are expanding. Feminine psychic energies lead to sensitivity and being able to feel the interactions between different energy currents, and masculine psychic energies lead to holding within you large amounts of power, and being able to project your own energy currents into the world. Intuition is one of the world's greatest strengths, and this is a pure feminine energy. These are just quick examples, and as somebody has their own spiritual experiences he will understand this better. But these are what a feminine energy actually are.

So wearing high heal shoes, dresses, makeup, wigs, other weird shit, it can not be said strongly enough about how these things have absolutely nothing to do with any kind of feminine energy or any kind of spirituality. These are the jew's replacement for spirituality after they have burnt our libraries and erased our history. When they see us trying to understand ourselves, this is the shit they try to give to us as a replacement to distract us. Then they laugh at us for being retarded and falling for the ridiculous hoax.


And about high heal shoes and makeup, I think that these things are just harmful and stupid in general regardless of which of the 2 genders somebody is. I am always feeling disappointed when I see a beautiful woman covered up by makeup, because the only thing it does is cover up and hide how beautiful she already is. It is like blocking out the sun. It is like covering up a goddess with a wooden mask. It's just sad. And if a woman is not much beautiful, the makeup is still not doing anything to help her. It is obvious that she is purposefully trying to hide and cover herself. The only thing I see makeup being helpful for is if somebody has a real medical problem, like if a burn victim wants to cover that up and look more like everyone else. Like a prosthetic. It would be useful and helpful for this.

And high heal shoes are the worst. They do horrible and permanent damage to the person's feet which hill hurt and harm her for the rest of her life. When she is young she can ignore this pain, but when she is old will she even be able to walk? The entire structure of the feet changes. Bones move to different places. Tendons and ligaments stretch and move and maybe tear. Muscles are atrophied and destroyed in some places, and are overly stressed in other places. It is a crime against humanity that these harmful shoes are promoted to be popular. And mostly I think that the biggest problem is safety. These shoes do not allow a woman to run away if she has to. What if she is in danger? And with those shoes on, she is just like a deer on the pavement. Barely able to walk and completely unable to run. The only way I could ever agree with this is if she also has a gun to protect herself with, and has a lot of training to be able to effectively use it. And is completely sober.

So how would these strange things have any spiritual benefit to a man? They have no benefit to a woman either. These things have no relation to nature, and no relation to anyone's soul.

I've spoken about this before and I applaud you for bringing it up because I should have made that point.

Essentially when English Translated Yoga books get into circulation in the Western World they confuse people with the terminology.

In Sanskrit there can be multiple levels of meaning for a word but it confuses people in English because they are acquainted with only one meaning of a word. So when the Yoga books talk about Shiva and Shakti ,Prakriti and Purusha etc it'd Essentially talking about a Spiritual process and not the Social Convention of Gendered behavior for Men and Women.

These terms are translated as Femininity and Masculinity when they are completely disconnected from any kind of social Convention.

What I've consistently understood is that mentally ill people are looking for a way to justify their mental illness. You'd remember that Mageson once claimed that it was very common for Emperors to wear high heels and other women's clothes.

And then when I questioned him he could come with only an example of one mentally unwell Emperor (became Emperor by chance) who would dress as a woman and go to whorehouses to have sex with random men. He was summarily executed and removed and a normal person became Emperor.

I don't deny that mentally ill people exist in society. Generally some small percentage of people are mentally ill. But the issue is that every kind of mental illness is then justified through Spirituality.

You'd remember that Mageson claimed that Transgenders were special and were given special places in Gentile society which is completely untrue. For example India is the spiritual bedrock of all spiritual knowledge that has ever existed. And all spiritual knowledge emanates from this place. And there are no stories or no instances of Transgenders or Trannies being in any kind of ascended Yogic status to have been remembered.

Essentially Animals display gendered Social Behaviors due to Sexual Dimorphism. And since Humans are Sexually Dimorphic as well have a very well developed Prefontal Cortex our Social Behaviors and Gendered traits change with each passing generations. This is simply a mechanism for Mate Selection.

In any kind of age if the Man or woman wants to become /copy the other Genders social Behaviors at that time its an indication of Mental Illness. They try to cover it up by claiming its about Spirituality, or getting in touch with their emotions (as If men Cannot feel emotions fine without dressing up like women) ,etc. But it's Essentially a form of Gender Dysphoria.

I think that the culture we live in brute forces us to make us accept these.

The first directive the Rockefeller Institute had for "eradication of war" after WW1 was to make men "Socially Feminine " through cultural programming and Hornonal problems by microplastics and chemicals.

Anyone who is advocating for wearing women's dresses ,wearing makeup ,etc is essentially inadvertently pushing a Genocidal Jewish Agenda. The Feminization of the Western Man is a War Crime by the Jews in the Media and Academia. The Jews have commandeered what could have been a harmless mental illness that doesn't affect the majority of society and are now trying to make it for the majority of society with Web Series, Subliminals, Songs ,Chemicals in Food and water etc.

 

[Jrvan]

You can make yourself look like a drag queen if you want. You completely have the right and the ability to do this and nobody can stop you. But every person who sees you also has the right to feel about it in however way they want to feel, which for most people is most often is going to be a discusted feeling. And if you always see people reacting to you in a disgusted way, will this not just make you feel worse? You have full freedom to make uncommon choices, but you can not force anybody to agree with it.

Okay? Tell me something I don't know? I don't understand what you're getting at here or why you are saying this. It's irrelevant to my first paragraph that I assume you replied to with this, and I can only guess that you misinterpreted the meaning of what I was saying. I'll try to clarify: that entire first paragraph was meant to be interpreted about the individual. The individual and the effect on their own mind by internally rejecting things out of a desire to "not be a girl." Not about a reaction of distaste to others which is only a consequence of internal rejection. It's not about doing things to "be a girl" which is the stupid opposite extreme, but rather overcoming the internal reaction that boys are conditioned with - hating girly things and avoiding anything associated with girls. This causes the individual to subconsciously reject the feminine. The feminine side of the soul is where the power is, and that's why men in society feel powerless and are always power hungry even though they have power inside them.

I don't dress like a drag queen, and I don't hate people who do. I actually enjoy the role of drag in theatre. Monty Python is one of my favorites for this.
I don't deny other people their reactions, and I don't force my opinions on others. I really don't understand what this was about with you saying this to me. I know full well that idiots in society are going to judge me harshly, and I'm used to it. I got called gay by the girls in high school for reasons still unknown to me, and my best guess is because I had one male best friend that I always talked to, and because I carried a torch for a single girl since elementary school... that crush never really died. Funny that she got with a boy just like me in a lot of ways who happened to be the football quarterback. That still pisses me off :lol: his language ability was atrocious.
But yeah, it's not like I cared if they thought I was gay. I laughed about it when someone told me.

I was talking mostly about the makeup with this. And also about dresses, if you wear a modern dress which is all made for women. I was thinking about it and I think that the outfit that many greeks and romans would wear, and also what many men in Saudi Arabia wear now, these are kind of like dresses. But they look very different from a woman's dress.

Tabby and I were talking about that recently. Men wearing dresses has to be done right. We were criticizing the amateurs who wear the dresses designed for the female figure. You can get away with a v-neck, but WTF are dudes doing wearing dresses that have the neckline down to the cleavage that they don't have? Wear a dress designed for the male body, FFS - otherwise it makes no sense and looks ridiculous and embarrassing, and nobody wants to look at that. It's not good for the eyes to feast upon. So yeah I'm in total agreement aside from the hangup regarding makeup.

It would be interesting if you do create a completely new kind of clothes. Maybe you can make something that many other people like and becomes popular.

I don't need to because it's already being done, and I don't want to either. Fashion design isn't my interest nor my forte. I'm interested only in crafting my own unique style for myself that I enjoy. If people want to copy me then that's their business. It wouldn't be the first time people copied me either. I seem to be a trendsetter wherever I go.

 

[Jrvan]

If you use makeup in a creative way like playing with colors and designs around the eyes to suit the outfit you're wearing, that would be a form of feminine expression and tapping into the creative mind.

I might be misunderstanding what you are saying with this, but this looks like the entire point that I am disagreeing with. It does not have any connection to spirituality or feminine psychic energy currents to put some paint on your face.

None of that shit is feminine, and it all has absolutely nothing to do with what a feminine energy current is. Feminine energies are the magnetic energies, when masculine energies are the electric energies. Feminine energies are contracting, and masculine energies are expanding. Feminine psychic energies lead to sensitivity and being able to feel the interactions between different energy currents, and masculine psychic energies lead to holding within you large amounts of power, and being able to project your own energy currents into the world. Intuition is one of the world's greatest strengths, and this is a pure feminine energy. These are just quick examples, and as somebody has their own spiritual experiences he will understand this better. But these are what a feminine energy actually are.

Actually, now that I think about it... if we were talking about warpaint for males then you would have no problem with it, would you? Warpaint is makeup.

Sheep thread nostalgia.

 

[tabby]

If you use makeup in a creative way like playing with colors and designs around the eyes to suit the outfit you're wearing, that would be a form of feminine expression and tapping into the creative mind.

I might be misunderstanding what you are saying with this, but this looks like the entire point that I am disagreeing with. It does not have any connection to spirituality or feminine psychic energy currents to put some paint on your face.

None of that shit is feminine, and it all has absolutely nothing to do with what a feminine energy current is. Feminine energies are the magnetic energies, when masculine energies are the electric energies. Feminine energies are contracting, and masculine energies are expanding. Feminine psychic energies lead to sensitivity and being able to feel the interactions between different energy currents, and masculine psychic energies lead to holding within you large amounts of power, and being able to project your own energy currents into the world. Intuition is one of the world's greatest strengths, and this is a pure feminine energy. These are just quick examples, and as somebody has their own spiritual experiences he will understand this better. But these are what a feminine energy actually are.

Yes a bit. But it's a little difficult for me to explain in words. Just putting something on your face isn't anything to do with spirituality, you're right about that part. The part you're missing is again the how of it. Makeup on its own is neutral, until you use it in an artistic and creative way, that's when you start tapping into the feminine mind.

We're use to makeup being just for practical and/or insecurity reasons, but that's only one side of it. Most makeup is essentially pigment applied to the skin, and that's something you can get very creative with.

Here's some examples if you like:

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Actually, now that I think about it... if we were talking about warpaint for males then you would have no problem with it, would you? Warpaint is makeup.

I would be saying the exact same thing that I'm saying now. I don't care if it is makeup, or war paint, or dirt, or oil, or any other possible thing. My point is that putting anything onto your face has nothing to do with spirituality, and it has nothing to do with either feminine or masculine energy currents. It is a meaningless action which has zero connection or influence on anybody's soul or psychic senses. It is entirely unrelated to anything spiritual. So do whatever you want to do, but I do not agree with thinking that there is any spiritual level to it. And this is what my point is.

I do not care about any common societal practice. I do not care if an action is usually done by men, or if it is usually done by women. I don't care about any stereotype. This is why I said that there is nothing wrong with a man doing some of those things with his style that are mostly often done by women. There is nothing wrong with this if it is genuinely what he wants to do. The only thing that I am disagreeing with is the idea that any of these things have any kind of connection or relation to spirituality.

Putting on makeup will give you zero increased ability to feel or use any feminine energy currents. And putting on war paint will give you zero increased ability to feel or use any masculine energy currents.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Conversely, having an aversion to things like long hair because one thinks it is "only for girls" and because one doesn't want to "be a girl" acts to suppress and reject the feminine side of the soul.

This is something that I do not agree with. Because what we call feminine energy currents, or the parts of the soul that are made from these feminine energy currents, it really just causes more unnecessary confusion to refer to any of these energy currents as "feminine" or "masculine." Because these energy currents are contained within every existing thing in the whole universe. These energy currents are absolutely unrelated and different from something like a behavior or societal context that is more commonly called either masculine or feminine. Really in these two different contexts, these words should be thought of as being entirely different words with entirely different meanings, and just by coincidence they are spelled the same way and pronounced the same way.

They really are related to the Elements more than anything else. So it is nothing but a confusion to think of these as being connected or related to male or female. Every soul of every living thing is created from both masculine and feminine energy currents, and it can be more masculine in a girl or more feminine in a boy, or in any other kind of balance.

So the idea that supressing anything related to "being like a girl" is supressing this feminine energy current, I do not agree. These energies are intrinsic and fundamental inside of everything, and inside of every part of a person's soul. What is a girl, or what is a boy, is something infinitely larger and more complex than this. And it is so much more complex as to be entirely unrelated and not connected. You can either have or not have something that is a very large and complex system, but regardless of that the deepest fundamental elemental energies are always there.

It is kind of like having an idea that if somebody does or does not do a certain action, that will make it less likely for him to have electrons in his body. It does not matter what actions anybody does. Or on a larger level, it does not matter what societal contexts are involved with those actions. The electrons in a person's body is an absolute fundamental thing dependent on every atom and every molecule they are made from. And it is so fundamental that it will not ever change no matter what anybody does. These feminine or masculine energy currents, they are just as fundamental as the electrons are. Actually I think they are far more fundamental than this, and they are effective at a subatomic level. Because these energy currents are tied to the Elements, and the single most fundamental thing which is the Akasha, the source of all things.

 

[Jrvan]

Conversely, having an aversion to things like long hair because one thinks it is "only for girls" and because one doesn't want to "be a girl" acts to suppress and reject the feminine side of the soul.

This is something that I do not agree with. Because what we call feminine energy currents, or the parts of the soul that are made from these feminine energy currents, it really just causes more unnecessary confusion to refer to any of these energy currents as "feminine" or "masculine." Because these energy currents are contained within every existing thing in the whole universe. These energy currents are absolutely unrelated and different from something like a behavior or societal context that is more commonly called either masculine or feminine. Really in these two different contexts, these words should be thought of as being entirely different words with entirely different meanings, and just by coincidence they are spelled the same way and pronounced the same way.

They really are related to the Elements more than anything else. So it is nothing but a confusion to think of these as being connected or related to male or female. Every soul of every living thing is created from both masculine and feminine energy currents, and it can be more masculine in a girl or more feminine in a boy, or in any other kind of balance.

So the idea that supressing anything related to "being like a girl" is supressing this feminine energy current, I do not agree. These energies are intrinsic and fundamental inside of everything, and inside of every part of a person's soul. What is a girl, or what is a boy, is something infinitely larger and more complex than this. And it is so much more complex as to be entirely unrelated and not connected. You can either have or not have something that is a very large and complex system, but regardless of that the deepest fundamental elemental energies are always there.

It is kind of like having an idea that if somebody does or does not do a certain action, that will make it less likely for him to have electrons in his body. It does not matter what actions anybody does. Or on a larger level, it does not matter what societal contexts are involved with those actions. The electrons in a person's body is an absolute fundamental thing dependent on every atom and every molecule they are made from. And it is so fundamental that it will not ever change no matter what anybody does. These feminine or masculine energy currents, they are just as fundamental as the electrons are. Actually I think they are far more fundamental than this, and they are effective at a subatomic level. Because these energy currents are tied to the Elements, and the single most fundamental thing which is the Akasha, the source of all things.

Yes, but it's the fact that certain things are being associated with gender, and then internal rejection happens as a result. It could be denim jackets or even motorcycles being associated with females and rejected on that basis, and the same thing would occur. This can suppress the energies. Just like you can get blockages in chakras from energies being suppressed due to trauma or whatever. Just like the Kundalini energy gets suppressed inside the base chakra because of curses and such. Just like emotions can get trapped inside and do damage when they are repressed and not allowed to be expressed. Just like karmic energy patterns can form due to not dealing with certain things, or even being unable to deal with certain things in the lifetime because of jews making it impossible and forcing everyone around you to be ignorant.

Look at juvenile men who reject things on the grounds that they are girly, and always try to maintain their unstable male identity that is only formed out of an opposition to females. Look at their inner state. Does that seem natural and healthy to you? Do they seem mature or powerful to you? Do they seem like they would make good mages capable of harnessing the feminine power of their souls? How far do you think you would get in instructing these fools in spirituality and magick practice? What do you think will happen when you tell them about how they need to have balance between the male brain and the female brain, and to merge the two hemispheres energetically? I think they would vomit. You underestimate the jewish conditioning.

Think of these same men in relationships with women, and how they interact with women and treat them. The gender superiority complex, the demeaning comments, the immaturity, the false male bravado, etc...
Now contrast this to mature spiritual men with how they relate to women. I shouldn't even have to explain the difference. It should be obvious enough if you simply imagine it.

Tell me which man you think feels powerful, and which one is compensating for lack of internal power.

 

[Jrvan]

Essentially Animals display gendered Social Behaviors due to Sexual Dimorphism. And since Humans are Sexually Dimorphic as well have a very well developed Prefontal Cortex our Social Behaviors and Gendered traits change with each passing generations. This is simply a mechanism for Mate Selection.

The same "social behaviors and gendered traits" have not changed with each passing generation in a very long time because of jews influencing culture with their bible. Even India's culture and religion has been jewed so don't act like India is so much holier and more pure when it's not. I understand having pride in your culture and spiritual heritage, but don't forget that yours has been subjected to the same subversion.

The rest of the comment is just your usual word twisting bullshit and lies. Not worth mentioning.

Just go away Jack. You suck at arguing, and you suck at spirituality. Failed Brahmin. Bad.

 

[Jrvan]

Also I thought this was a mens clothing/dressing topic? But its transforming into some kind of 'bashing this' & transgender debate ...

Par for the course.
I wish the few remaining problem children of the forums would hurry up and evolve past their problems so they stop dragging the rest of us down.

Either that, or Jack outlives his usefulness so he can be banned already.

 

[tabby]

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To be honest, a lot the clothes that I see for 'women' nowadays.. when I try them on.. they look like I am wearing a potato bag. (Apparently baggier clothes are the norm now.)

If I get a size smaller I can't move my arms properly, and it still looks like Im wearing a potato bag. The seams around the armhole are cutting into me and the overall fit is restricting my movement.
I am bringing this up because you may find mens clothes boring (and tbh they totally are) but seeing the same clothes in all pastel isn't doing it for me either. Neither is it a good thing for womens clothing to look like mens.
Most of what I own looks unflattering on me because of the above reason.

I've never worn much make-up in my life, but the point of make-up is to enhance your natural beauty (for most people in a healthy way, anyway)... NOT to look like a clown or a barbie doll.
Unless you're talking about going on stage and having a lot of bright lights shining onto you. But thats entirely a different topic.

Also I thought this was a mens clothing/dressing topic? But its transforming into some kind of 'bashing this' & transgender debate ...

Next thing you know they start bringing up the argument that push-up bra's should not be worn by women because its 'unnatural' and leading men on ...

Proper skincare should be for both genders. To wear or to not wear make-up should be a personal choice. Not something that someone else thinks is something one should or should not wear.

Also proper skincare, is not, "wear make-up".

Personally I feel any of the modern clothing for both men and women is total shit. Men have a different body shape to women and people think lets just stick both in a box shape and it'll be fine... just ew... The clothing industry is completely mass manufactured now. If you've got the money to do it, it's better to invest in well made and tailored clothing that's going to last you a lifetime rather than something cheap and made in a china factory. Anyway, already covered that in my sewing thread... excuse the ranting.

I agree with you, makeup should be a personal choice for either gender, not used to compensate for something lacking internally or as a form of shaming. The over the top stuff you see people do I suspect is probably due to imbalance of the soul and dross. It's sad that at some point or another, makeup became about "making women beautiful" and making money, rather than an expression of fashion, culture, status, or practical reasons.

When you try to educate people about the history of something that is deemed a "girl thing" in modern times, and is for whatever reason used as an insult to tear other men down with - it's inevitably going to divulge into bashing and tranny stuff because people these days have grown up with the idea of a "real" man being a burly, chunky, rough and gruff, lumber jack with an F-150 - it's not going to stay on topic all that well.

A lot of men are afraid to be called girls, or use anything associated with girls because we've been brainwashed again and again that "girl = weakness". Some go as far as to even avoid basic health care (that would make them look more beautiful because they're healthy) just to not seem "girly". Then you get guys (which is how this thread started) using this association against other men to label him a cuck or weak to insult their image and character. This was part of the original intention for this thread, to help men to stop associating anything to do with girls and femininity as weakness, "non-masculine", or lacking balls - learn some history in the process, and start actually expanding their perception of how they dress and look after themselves. History certainly didn't give this much of a fuck to the point people can't have a decent discussion about clothing and beauty just because they're men.

Beauty, femininity, health, clothing, makeup, whatever it is... men use these things to shame other men because they think these things mean weakness just because it's what girls use/do, despite the fact that history says otherwise. There is no shame in these things. If you're a man and you want to be healthy and beautiful or handsome, and not look like a moldy potato sack, then why do others feel inclined to shame you over it? Right, because jews want men to be beasts.

After washing away the bad conditioning, it's just up to personal taste in what looks good on your body and what you enjoy.

 

[Jack]

Actually, now that I think about it... if we were talking about warpaint for males then you would have no problem with it, would you? Warpaint is makeup.

I would be saying the exact same thing that I'm saying now. I don't care if it is makeup, or war paint, or dirt, or oil, or any other possible thing. My point is that putting anything onto your face has nothing to do with spirituality, and it has nothing to do with either feminine or masculine energy currents. It is a meaningless action which has zero connection or influence on anybody's soul or psychic senses. It is entirely unrelated to anything spiritual. So do whatever you want to do, but I do not agree with thinking that there is any spiritual level to it. And this is what my point is.

I do not care about any common societal practice. I do not care if an action is usually done by men, or if it is usually done by women. I don't care about any stereotype. This is why I said that there is nothing wrong with a man doing some of those things with his style that are mostly often done by women. There is nothing wrong with this if it is genuinely what he wants to do. The only thing that I am disagreeing with is the idea that any of these things have any kind of connection or relation to spirituality.

Putting on makeup will give you zero increased ability to feel or use any feminine energy currents. And putting on war paint will give you zero increased ability to feel or use any masculine energy currents.

Klaus Scwabb actually wears a dress when he sits down in private conversations with Billionaires about how to kill Billions of people in the most effective way possible.

He also speaks in a very feminine way waving hands like a woman.

Oh wait that was a War General outfit.

 

[Jack]

If you use makeup in a creative way like playing with colors and designs around the eyes to suit the outfit you're wearing, that would be a form of feminine expression and tapping into the creative mind.

I might be misunderstanding what you are saying with this, but this looks like the entire point that I am disagreeing with. It does not have any connection to spirituality or feminine psychic energy currents to put some paint on your face.

None of that shit is feminine, and it all has absolutely nothing to do with what a feminine energy current is. Feminine energies are the magnetic energies, when masculine energies are the electric energies. Feminine energies are contracting, and masculine energies are expanding. Feminine psychic energies lead to sensitivity and being able to feel the interactions between different energy currents, and masculine psychic energies lead to holding within you large amounts of power, and being able to project your own energy currents into the world. Intuition is one of the world's greatest strengths, and this is a pure feminine energy. These are just quick examples, and as somebody has their own spiritual experiences he will understand this better. But these are what a feminine energy actually are.

Yes a bit. But it's a little difficult for me to explain in words. Just putting something on your face isn't anything to do with spirituality, you're right about that part. The part you're missing is again the how of it. Makeup on its own is neutral, until you use it in an artistic and creative way, that's when you start tapping into the feminine mind.

We're use to makeup being just for practical and/or insecurity reasons, but that's only one side of it. Most makeup is essentially pigment applied to the skin, and that's something you can get very creative with.

Here's some examples if you like:

Doing this will not make you tapped into the Feminine Mind in any sort of way. It's a complete waste of time and energy with no Benefit for whatsoever.

The Feminine Intuitive Mind can be tapped in by trance meditations and ruminating on shapes and colors etc.

Putting colors on your face and wanting others to see it has nothing to do with The Feminine mind. By doing that you're putting the object of attainment outside of you which cannot exist in Gnosis.

In Gnosis ,the object of attainment is always from inside ,which is from meditation.

You'll get more tapped into the Feminine Mind which is essentially a code word for the unconscious by doing trance meditation in different forms.

Wearing makeup, wearing dresses, etc has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever.

I see a lot of hoes walking around with colorful makeup on and they don't have a single clue about spirituality at all.

 

[Aquarius]

I think the only man who looks good with makeup is Jack Sparrow.

 

[Stormblood]

War paint has nothing to do with gendering. It's used for camouflage in war and military training. It has nothing to do with civilian life. It's also not used in excessive quantities like civilians would use or you see in some joolliwood films. Barely any paint is used and it's to break the lines of your face so they blend in with the environment you are in, to avoid detection.

These methods will become obsolete anyway, some decades into the SS society when spiritual camouflage would substitute this primitive practices.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

Also I thought this was a mens clothing/dressing topic? But its transforming into some kind of 'bashing this' & transgender debate ...

Par for the course.
I wish the few remaining problem children of the forums would hurry up and evolve past their problems so they stop dragging the rest of us down.

Either that, or Jack outlives his usefulness so he can be banned already.

There is something else which I think needs to be said though..

The things Ol and Jack bring up sound like they're the kind of people that would show up to a gala/evening out/prom in jeans and a t-shirt.

It is social etiquette that you are at least dressed properly for those kinds of things. And that often does involve make-up.
I can imagine for a man that you don't want to show up to such a thing with bags underneath your eyes and even if you had a busy week and this happens I can imagine that one would put concealer over it, just to look better, even if it is just for their partner so that they can have the perfect night out. Or to make a good impression on the rest of the people that show up, if it is a higher class business gathering of some sorts.
Looks matter. They're the first impression you give to everyone.

The pictures tabby posted are beautiful, however, not practical for day-to-day wear and it reminds me of the people that consider themselves 'fairies', color their hair and dress with such extravagant make-up every single day.
Even just a normal 'look' with eyeshadow done by a make-up artist takes one hour.
Such looks should be reserved for special occasions, not everyday wear.

Then there is something else to be brought up. You keep talking about the spiritual, but we are also physical beings. Taking care of yourself, taking a shower, dressing properly, taking care of yourself properly makes you feel a lot better too and helps to keep you in the here and now.
And it boosts your mood. How many of you have felt so much better after just coming out of the shower or taking a bath?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Yes, but it's the fact that certain things are being associated with gender, and then internal rejection happens as a result. It could be denim jackets or even motorcycles being associated with females and rejected on that basis, and the same thing would occur. This can suppress the energies. Just like you can get blockages in chakras from energies being suppressed due to trauma or whatever. Just like the Kundalini energy gets suppressed inside the base chakra because of curses and such. Just like emotions can get trapped inside and do damage when they are repressed and not allowed to be expressed. Just like karmic energy patterns can form due to not dealing with certain things, or even being unable to deal with certain things in the lifetime because of jews making it impossible and forcing everyone around you to be ignorant.

Look at juvenile men who reject things on the grounds that they are girly, and always try to maintain their unstable male identity that is only formed out of an opposition to females. Look at their inner state. Does that seem natural and healthy to you? Do they seem mature or powerful to you? Do they seem like they would make good mages capable of harnessing the feminine power of their souls? How far do you think you would get in instructing these fools in spirituality and magick practice? What do you think will happen when you tell them about how they need to have balance between the male brain and the female brain, and to merge the two hemispheres energetically? I think they would vomit. You underestimate the jewish conditioning.

Think of these same men in relationships with women, and how they interact with women and treat them. The gender superiority complex, the demeaning comments, the immaturity, the false male bravado, etc...
Now contrast this to mature spiritual men with how they relate to women. I shouldn't even have to explain the difference. It should be obvious enough if you simply imagine it.

Tell me which man you think feels powerful, and which one is compensating for lack of internal power.

Why do you think it is so important to be focused on men who have a personality like this? You spend a lot of time, in many different topics, specifically to complain about men who do this. Why does it matter? I wonder if this goes back to you not being friends with the other boys, and if you decided to not like anything about them because "toxic masculinity" or something like that.

No, I do not think that what you are talking about is very common anyway. And for men who do have any amount of that, I think you entirely misrepresent and exaggerate the amount of his life that is determined by any motivation like you describe. On the average day, how many choices does he make that are decided by the motivation of not wanting to be like a girl? I would say zero. I would say a situation like this only comes up a few times in a person's life, and it would be impossible to try to use this as the reasoning for most of the things a person does because nearly all actions every day have nothing to do with man or woman.

My point again is that what is called feminine/girly has absolutely zero relation and zero connection to the psychic energies that are called feminine energy currents. It would be better to just ignore the word feminine/masculine when it comes to these energies, and substitute in any other different word. A feminine psychic energy is not "girly" and a masculine psychic energy is not "manly" it is entirely seperate, different, and unrelated. A "girly" behaviour is absolutely not created from or tied to these fundamental elemental energy currents. You could say the behaviour is equally from the masculine psychic energies as much as from the feminine, or even more masculine, or any other possible balance. But there is zero relation. Really it is only from a false and broken translation that the words feminine/masculine were ever associated with these energies, and it is not correct. The original words in Sanskrit were seperate and independent from man or woman.

If you want to say that the way these men live their lives is not good, or if you want to say that it is better for people to not act like that, that is fine. I don't care what your opinion is on a certain personality trait, I mean that I neither agree or disagree. My point is just that you need to come up with a better or different reason why it is actually damaging to his soul, because I do not believe the reason you describe.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

A lot of men are afraid to be called girls, or use anything associated with girls because we've been brainwashed again and again that "girl = weakness". Some go as far as to even avoid basic health care (that would make them look more beautiful because they're healthy) just to not seem "girly". Then you get guys (which is how this thread started) using this association against other men to label him a cuck or weak to insult their image and character. This was part of the original intention for this thread, to help men to stop associating anything to do with girls and femininity as weakness, "non-masculine", or lacking balls - learn some history in the process, and start actually expanding their perception of how they dress and look after themselves. History certainly didn't give this much of a fuck to the point people can't have a decent discussion about clothing and beauty just because they're men.

Beauty, femininity, health, clothing, makeup, whatever it is... men use these things to shame other men because they think these things mean weakness just because it's what girls use/do, despite the fact that history says otherwise. There is no shame in these things. If you're a man and you want to be healthy and beautiful or handsome, and not look like a moldy potato sack, then why do others feel inclined to shame you over it? Right, because jews want men to be beasts.

After washing away the bad conditioning, it's just up to personal taste in what looks good on your body and what you enjoy.

I am not disagreeing with any of this. You are right.

The only thing I ever disagreed with was when people were trying to associate these kind of things with the fundamental elemental energy currents that are neither related to men or women.

 

[Jrvan]

Yes, but it's the fact that certain things are being associated with gender, and then internal rejection happens as a result. It could be denim jackets or even motorcycles being associated with females and rejected on that basis, and the same thing would occur. This can suppress the energies. Just like you can get blockages in chakras from energies being suppressed due to trauma or whatever. Just like the Kundalini energy gets suppressed inside the base chakra because of curses and such. Just like emotions can get trapped inside and do damage when they are repressed and not allowed to be expressed. Just like karmic energy patterns can form due to not dealing with certain things, or even being unable to deal with certain things in the lifetime because of jews making it impossible and forcing everyone around you to be ignorant.

Look at juvenile men who reject things on the grounds that they are girly, and always try to maintain their unstable male identity that is only formed out of an opposition to females. Look at their inner state. Does that seem natural and healthy to you? Do they seem mature or powerful to you? Do they seem like they would make good mages capable of harnessing the feminine power of their souls? How far do you think you would get in instructing these fools in spirituality and magick practice? What do you think will happen when you tell them about how they need to have balance between the male brain and the female brain, and to merge the two hemispheres energetically? I think they would vomit. You underestimate the jewish conditioning.

Think of these same men in relationships with women, and how they interact with women and treat them. The gender superiority complex, the demeaning comments, the immaturity, the false male bravado, etc...
Now contrast this to mature spiritual men with how they relate to women. I shouldn't even have to explain the difference. It should be obvious enough if you simply imagine it.

Tell me which man you think feels powerful, and which one is compensating for lack of internal power.

Why do you think it is so important to be focused on men who have a personality like this? You spend a lot of time, in many different topics, specifically to complain about men who do this. Why does it matter? I wonder if this goes back to you not being friends with the other boys, and if you decided to not like anything about them because "toxic masculinity" or something like that.

No, I do not think that what you are talking about is very common anyway. And for men who do have any amount of that, I think you entirely misrepresent and exaggerate the amount of his life that is determined by any motivation like you describe. On the average day, how many choices does he make that are decided by the motivation of not wanting to be like a girl? I would say zero. I would say a situation like this only comes up a few times in a person's life, and it would be impossible to try to use this as the reasoning for most of the things a person does because nearly all actions every day have nothing to do with man or woman.

My point again is that what is called feminine/girly has absolutely zero relation and zero connection to the psychic energies that are called feminine energy currents. It would be better to just ignore the word feminine/masculine when it comes to these energies, and substitute in any other different word. A feminine psychic energy is not "girly" and a masculine psychic energy is not "manly" it is entirely seperate, different, and unrelated. A "girly" behaviour is absolutely not created from or tied to these fundamental elemental energy currents. You could say the behaviour is equally from the masculine psychic energies as much as from the feminine, or even more masculine, or any other possible balance. But there is zero relation. Really it is only from a false and broken translation that the words feminine/masculine were ever associated with these energies, and it is not correct. The original words in Sanskrit were seperate and independent from man or woman.

If you want to say that the way these men live their lives is not good, or if you want to say that it is better for people to not act like that, that is fine. I don't care what your opinion is on a certain personality trait, I mean that I neither agree or disagree. My point is just that you need to come up with a better or different reason why it is actually damaging to his soul, because I do not believe the reason you describe.

You are naively optimistic about the state of our people, and you clearly haven't seen a lot of cases in society that I have. You being blind to their existence doesn't make them not exist, Ol. You always make these stupid arguments like "NOBODY is like that!"
Well clearly some people ARE like that or else nobody would be talking about it because nobody would be observing it. You always do this. You try to make problems go away by pretending that they don't exist. That's called being blind.

Don't question me on how I spend my time. I do things that I believe will be useful for others. I believe that discussions like this are going to be very useful for people who come along in the future. If you have a problem with how I spend my time, and you don't like the threads that I make, then go somewhere else and ignore it. Why are you wasting YOUR time, Ol? Why are you wasting it by trying to "help" me not to "waste" mine? This is important to me, and you don't need to understand the reasons why.

Stop putting words in my mouth and misrepresenting me. I did not use the word "damaging." I used the word "limiting." Big difference. And I don't NEED to do ANYTHING just because you don't believe in something I say. It's not my job to convince you of things. Don't tell me what to do.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Par for the course.
I wish the few remaining problem children of the forums would hurry up and evolve past their problems so they stop dragging the rest of us down.

Either that, or Jack outlives his usefulness so he can be banned already.

Are you meaning to say that I am a problem just because I disagree with you about something?

I hope not. Especially since I think yourself can sometimes be much more accurately described as a problem than me. You have admitted that you often like to purposefully create fights and arguments for yourself to be involved in where none existed before. And this is a behaviour that everybody has seen you do. You seem to have a habit of ending up in the center of all kinds of fights here, even when the situation is personal between 2 people and has nothing to do with you. You said that this was to help another person by getting the attention off of them and onto yourself, so maybe you did have good intentions. But it is true that you seem to enjoy purposefully creating arguments.

This is not something that I have ever done. I have been involved with many arguments before, but I have never purposefully created one where it didn't exist before. The only thing I do when I see somebody giving incorrect or fictional "spiritual advice" is I try to correct it. And I try to add more information for the discussion. And I try to explain, calmly and using actual information and logic, what the truth actually is. And if somebody is an infiltrator jew who has been here on 30 different fake infiltrator accounts, then I have less patience and I say exactly what the person is.

 

[tabby]

I might be misunderstanding what you are saying with this, but this looks like the entire point that I am disagreeing with. It does not have any connection to spirituality or feminine psychic energy currents to put some paint on your face.

Yes a bit. But it's a little difficult for me to explain in words. Just putting something on your face isn't anything to do with spirituality, you're right about that part. The part you're missing is again the how of it. Makeup on its own is neutral, until you use it in an artistic and creative way, that's when you start tapping into the feminine mind.

We're use to makeup being just for practical and/or insecurity reasons, but that's only one side of it. Most makeup is essentially pigment applied to the skin, and that's something you can get very creative with.

Here's some examples if you like:

Doing this will not make you tapped into the Feminine Mind in any sort of way. It's a complete waste of time and energy with no Benefit for whatsoever.

The Feminine Intuitive Mind can be tapped in by trance meditations and ruminating on shapes and colors etc.

Putting colors on your face and wanting others to see it has nothing to do with The Feminine mind. By doing that you're putting the object of attainment outside of you which cannot exist in Gnosis.

In Gnosis ,the object of attainment is always from inside ,which is from meditation.

You'll get more tapped into the Feminine Mind which is essentially a code word for the unconscious by doing trance meditation in different forms.

Wearing makeup, wearing dresses, etc has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever.

I see a lot of hoes walking around with colorful makeup on and they don't have a single clue about spirituality at all.

Did I say that makeup itself and stuff are spiritual and whatever? Or did I say that using these things in a creative form is what makes you tap into the feminine mind?

A pen is nothing more than a pen until you pick it up and begin to make the ink form the world inside your mind on the paper in front of you, dancing on the page in quick and even strokes. The blackness bleeding into the white creating colour beyond a child's wildest dreams, and a land of greens and blues. As it glides from one side to the other you create songs from birds in trees and the flow of ocean tides, rumbling like thunder and crashing upon a shore unknown to the man behind the page. An adventure grander than any awakens upon the black and white, so intensely do these ink filled places spill from the hand through the pen; spiralling and spiralling a dance of passionate untamed ecstasy. But the pen is merely a pen, and the ink simply ink, and a page just a blank untouched potential for the mind of the man who can create.

You don’t need to understand spirituality to be able to create art and be artistic, which is of the female mind (right brain). What is someone doing when they go into a trance state while sewing a garment of clothing through a continuous rhythmic motion of the hands? Or painting every brush stroke on a canvas? Or drawing a pretty design on their face with pigment? Or perhaps when they dance and sing to music? Or when you get lost in writing poetry or a story?

What do you think happens to the brain when we engage in something like the above? The focus becomes intensive and tranced, and you begin to tap into the subconscious. I’m not talking out my ass here and making up crap, I am an artist, and I experience these effects when I perform the above activities. Your mind does indeed enter a meditative state through such things, and one would only understand that if they engage in these activities themselves.

Spirituality isn’t limited to sitting on the floor, meditating, mate. I blend my spirituality into my daily life where possible especially with what I create materially, I let my energies flow into whatever I make, and I dance with my creations. There is little separation between my material and spiritual life. That is why I could already meditate and manipulate energy well before I came to Satan in this life time.

 

[Jrvan]

Par for the course.
I wish the few remaining problem children of the forums would hurry up and evolve past their problems so they stop dragging the rest of us down.

Either that, or Jack outlives his usefulness so he can be banned already.

Boohoo! Jrvan is telling me what to think and won't let me disagree with him. What a tyrant!

What are you trying to do here? Seriously. What is it? You're barking up the wrong tree.

Do you feel targeted by what I said to Lunardance? Funny. Maybe check yourself before accusing me of shit in the next lines.

I don't enjoy purposefully creating arguments. I don't enjoy the drama that I engage in on the forums. No, I absolutely prefer harmony. I really do. Unfortunately we have some conniving trolls like Jack who won't allow that harmony to exist in peace. You should do a before and after comparison for when I came to the forums. We don't have some of the really retarded old arguments that we used to have, like bashing and shaming women in full MGTOW fashion which Jack did on every other thread, and that is majorly thanks to my efforts.

You want to criticize me without even paying attention to how I behave and interact outside of arguments. Do you have a problem with me? Like be real. Are you obsessed with me or something? Do you want to make out with me? What do you want from me, Ol?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

.....

I plainly don't care how you spend your time or what you do. It means nothing to me. What bothers me is when somebody invents something and goes around promoting it as spirituality, when the entire thing is fictional and invented by that one person. Because now this is harming anybody who reads it who is believing it. So whenever anybody is telling lies about spirituality, or just self-created nonsense, I am always going to try to correct it. None of this is personal or about you.

 

[Aquarius]

Also I thought this was a mens clothing/dressing topic? But its transforming into some kind of 'bashing this' & transgender debate ...

Par for the course.
I wish the few remaining problem children of the forums would hurry up and evolve past their problems so they stop dragging the rest of us down.

Either that, or Jack outlives his usefulness so he can be banned already.

You really wrote this?
Just a remainder that you have been the protagonist of most forum arguments since you arrived here.

While you make posts about cross dressing because you were never taught what masculinity is, Jack is giving good advice to people about growing and taking responsability. You don't like men who act like men, that is obvious, but now you have went to far as to want him to be banned for absolutely no reason at all.
You are a meak man honestly.

 

[Aquarius]

I meant weak.

 

[Jrvan]

.....

I plainly don't care how you spend your time or what you do. It means nothing to me. What bothers me is when somebody invents something and goes around promoting it as spirituality, when the entire thing is fictional and invented by that one person. Because now this is harming anybody who reads it who is believing it. So whenever anybody is telling lies about spirituality, or just self-created nonsense, I am always going to try to correct it. None of this is personal or about you.

Feign indifference all you want. You care more than you claim, and your motivations here are different from what you claim.

Please explain in sufficient detail exactly what the harm is. If you can.

 

[tabby]

...

The pictures tabby posted are beautiful, however, not practical for day-to-day wear and it reminds me of the people that consider themselves 'fairies', color their hair and dress with such extravagant make-up every single day.
Even just a normal 'look' with eyeshadow done by a make-up artist takes one hour.
Such looks should be reserved for special occasions, not everyday wear.

...

Yes, they're a bit eccentric. Just like with clothing, makeup styles have a time and place as well, and will depend heavily on your overall appearance. This would be something one might find at a festival and such, rather than day-to-day, but I guess that also depends on the kind of person you are... Something like the third picture I posted, since its palette is neutral and not in your face with colour, you can get away with such an appearance for a dressed up formal/casual look (minus the floral stick), if one would be so inclined.

I gave those as a specific example because I doubt that many people would consider just normal daily makeup "creative", even though so much goes into making makeup actually look good on a persons face. It's like someone painting the details of a face on a marble statue.

 

[Stormblood]

There are dresses for men. They are called suits... A bow tie looks better than a tie, btw. Or should we all listen to kikeson and think that ties are collars? I remembered how he vehemently disagreed every time I talked about different dress codes. He's probably one of those wearing grey t-shirts with a unicorn on it, at weddings and funerals, because "ties are a sign of submission" :lol:

 

[Jrvan]

.....

Because now this is harming anybody who reads it who is believing it. So whenever anybody is telling lies about spirituality, or just self-created nonsense, I am always going to try to correct it.

Except when Jack does it. You never criticize your buddy Jack for anything, and he can do no wrong in your mind. He can lie and create drama for years on end, but you just let him be and never call him out. You only call me out on things that I didn't even say.

Jack is 100x more harmful to readers than I have ever been, and he's been allowed to have free rein and get away with it for years without challenge. When anyone ever DID challenge him, idiots like you stepped up to defend him every single time even though you didn't gain anything from it. It makes no sense.

You and Ninrick should go over in the corner and be part of Jack's fan club, and leave the rest of us alone. Your little motley crew is not saving anyone. If you and your orgy fest really want to save people from harm then save us from yourselves.

 

[Jrvan]

Par for the course.
I wish the few remaining problem children of the forums would hurry up and evolve past their problems so they stop dragging the rest of us down.

Either that, or Jack outlives his usefulness so he can be banned already.

Are you meaning to say that I am a problem just because I disagree with you about something?

I hope not. Especially since I think yourself can sometimes be much more accurately described as a problem than me. You have admitted that you often like to purposefully create fights and arguments for yourself to be involved in where none existed before. And this is a behaviour that everybody has seen you do. You seem to have a habit of ending up in the center of all kinds of fights here, even when the situation is personal between 2 people and has nothing to do with you. You said that this was to help another person by getting the attention off of them and onto yourself, so maybe you did have good intentions. But it is true that you seem to enjoy purposefully creating arguments.

This is not something that I have ever done. I have been involved with many arguments before, but I have never purposefully created one where it didn't exist before. The only thing I do when I see somebody giving incorrect or fictional "spiritual advice" is I try to correct it. And I try to add more information for the discussion. And I try to explain, calmly and using actual information and logic, what the truth actually is. And if somebody is an infiltrator jew who has been here on 30 different fake infiltrator accounts, then I have less patience and I say exactly what the person is.

You sound just like Jack when he was doing his character assassination of Dahaarkan. "YOU ADMITTED IT! YOU ARE GUILTY OF BEING CAPABLE OF FEELING NORMAL HUMAN EMOTIONS LIKE HATE AND RESENTMENT!"

How about you stop being a fucking hypocrite. "Don't get involved in other people's fights bro"
Practice what you preach then. Never ever call me or anyone else out or get involved in any way when they are fighting with Jack or anyone else. Never mediate, ever.

Your self image does not reflect reality. Spend less time talking about yourself and how you THINK you are, and more time actually being the way you want to be. In the meantime, don't even bother criticizing me because you don't have any ground to stand on.

Thank you, next.

 

[Jrvan]

I wonder if this goes back to you not being friends with the other boys, and if you decided to not like anything about them because "toxic masculinity" or something like that.

Since you want to dig up my past and use it against me, I remembered this little gem.

And another thing, give your bullshit accusation of "christian programming" to somebody else. You do not know who I am in this life, and you do not know who I was in any of my past lives either.

In this life, I was raised in an atheist/anti-theist family. I have spent my entire life since I was a young child always hating christians, jews, and muslims.

And I do clearly remember several of my previous lives. I have not had the "past life amnesia" that many people have. In all of the several different previous lives that I remember, I have always lived a self sufficient life in the forest. I have never lived in any city, and I have surely never lived in any christian society. I never saw any christian until this current time.

So you can not accuse me of "still having some christian programming" if literally in my soul's entire history I have never been exposed to any christian influence before.

I let you off the hook back then, but this is absolutely ridiculous. You masquerade as such a spiritual man, but here you are making up shit about your past lives. Yeah, you were some dancing hippie woodland elf who always avoided contact with human society and was never ever exposed to xian society. In fact, you never even SAW a xian and swear you don't even know what a xian looks like. LMAO! Yeah, sure. You come up with the most unbelievable shit. Everywhere in Europe was xian society back then, fool. You were born into it, and you weren't able to run away from it. Fuck, go write one of those "reincarnated as a badass warrior mage in the middle ages" anime scripts that are a dime a dozen these days. I'll totally watch it.

This is such fantasy nonsense, and it's almost as good as this one

I have never had bad experiences with women or feminists. I do not have any problem relating to all of the women I know. Of the mix of male and female energies that all existing things are made of, my soul is mostly feminine type energies. I am a heterosexual man, I do not mean feminine in this kind of way. But the extreme majority of the energies of my soul is all Venus type energy. Both in my natal chart, in my history, and in the many planet squares that I have done, it would not be too much of an exaggeration to say that I am nearly entirely Venus energy.

Anything you say in trying to hint about me being anti-women could not possibly be any more opposite of the truth. I am often thinking every day that our women are the absolute most valuable thing in the world, and that a man's entire purpose is to care for our women and children. I have the same infinite love for our species of people that the gods have for us.

And as I have already said, this is the entire reason why all of your dumb accusations of sexism are so annoying and so ridiculous. Because I honestly can't think of any way to describe me that could ever be further from the truth. And your whole attitude that every single possible way for anybody to react to you that does not include profusely kissing your ass means that the person is some evil or sexist person, it is absolutely retarded and disgusting.

Have you seen the amount of help I have given people over the years? Have you seen the number of comments I have written? I admit I have written some dumb things before, but the extreme majority of all of my posts are just me trying to help as many people as possible. And it has no benefit for me because surely if I spent this time and effort on helping myself that would be much better for me. But all of the energies of my soul are so extremely nurturing, caring, and loving that I am required to spend my effort on helping the people I care about, which is our family here. My purpose is to take care of women and children, protect them, and help them in every way. And at the same time, to also be helping men in the greatest possible amount so that they all may become stronger and more effective at protecting and taking care of their own women and children. This is basically my souls entire motivation, and it is the only reason why I have ever tried to help anybody.

I hope you are able to understand what I am saying and get some idea of what my soul is like. And that everything that you are saying could not possibly be any further opposite from the truth. It is just absolutely ridiculous the things you say.


What is really going on is it seems like you are such a self-hating, extremist man-hater that your entire soul is consumed by the idea that all men are pure evil. And you project this male-hatred (and maybe also self-hatred) onto everybody you meet. You are so focused on the idea that all men are evil that you do not even have the ability to even imagine a situation where a man is a good person. You have such disgusting hang ups about this that you project it onto everybody else and accuse everybody of being some evil woman-hater when you couldn't possibly be any more wrong about the person. It almost looks like you have the amount of hatred as what I have the amount of love. And you are so consumed by this hatred that you can't even believe that I do not have anything against women, and you are not able to believe me no matter how many times I say it.

You hate all men to such an enormous degree that you are not even able to imagine a man who does not hate women. And I honestly feel extremely sorry for you. I do not know what kind of people you have been around in this life, or in your past lives. But from your perspectives it seems like you may have never even known a single really good man. And if this is true, that is just extremely sad. But I guess I am lucky because all I have ever known have been good men and good women, and I do not have any bad opinion about our people. The worst thing I can say about any of our people is that I am sad for the mistakes that some of them have made, and I only wish they could have been healthier.

If this is too personal, I do not want you to answer it. But was your father abusive to your mother? Was he physically abusive? Did you have to watch this as a young child and only wish that you could have protected her? I hope that you did not have to experience anything like this, but if you did at least it would explain where your perspective comes from. And if any of this applies to you, I really hope you can heal from this and get to know some good men that you may be inspired by.

"I'M LIKE THE MOST WOMANLY MAN EVER BRO. I CAN'T POSSIBLY BE SEXIST SO DON'T EVEN TRY TO THROW THEM ACCURRZASHUNZ AT MEEE BECAUSE MY SOUL IS BASICALLY FEMALE LOL"

"MEN ONLY EXIST TO TAKE CARE OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN LOL"

This is your brain on stupid.

 

[tabby]

There are dresses for men. They are called suits... A bow tie looks better than a tie, btw. Or should we all listen to kikeson and think that ties are collars? I remembered how he vehemently disagreed every time I talked about different dress codes. He's probably one of those wearing grey t-shirts with a unicorn on it, at weddings and funerals, because "ties are a sign of submission" :lol:

Your comment reminds me of when my mother use to take me to the theater as a child, and we would dress up in formal clothing as was the expectation for classical theater, and we would see a few people in the crowd who were in what looked like pj's, and plain sweat pants and t-shirts. It just soured the atmosphere of the theater, and they stood out like a bad egg.

Apparently "dress for the occasion/activity, not like you just rolled out of bed" is too much to ask of people these days. It's one thing if you're poor, but if you're going to a classical theater, mate, you ain't poor.

The whole "ties is submission/slavery" thing is just funny to me. People who usually have this stuff in their heads have grown up in enemy influence in one way or another. It's kinda ironic that they consider being well-dressed with cuffs and ties as a sign of submission, but I guess that's the trick isn't it? Make people hate and detest looking well-dressed because such things are a sign of wealth and/or status, and the enemy doesn't want people to even appear well off or "unequal".

Something I've wondered about, if robes were more available and a more common dress code in society, would men desire to wear them over suits or continue wearing suits instead? (Robes as in like what the ancients wore).

 

[hailourtruegod]

I might be misunderstanding what you are saying with this, but this looks like the entire point that I am disagreeing with. It does not have any connection to spirituality or feminine psychic energy currents to put some paint on your face.

Yes a bit. But it's a little difficult for me to explain in words. Just putting something on your face isn't anything to do with spirituality, you're right about that part. The part you're missing is again the how of it. Makeup on its own is neutral, until you use it in an artistic and creative way, that's when you start tapping into the feminine mind.

We're use to makeup being just for practical and/or insecurity reasons, but that's only one side of it. Most makeup is essentially pigment applied to the skin, and that's something you can get very creative with.

Here's some examples if you like:

Doing this will not make you tapped into the Feminine Mind in any sort of way. It's a complete waste of time and energy with no Benefit for whatsoever.

The Feminine Intuitive Mind can be tapped in by trance meditations and ruminating on shapes and colors etc.

Putting colors on your face and wanting others to see it has nothing to do with The Feminine mind. By doing that you're putting the object of attainment outside of you which cannot exist in Gnosis.

In Gnosis ,the object of attainment is always from inside ,which is from meditation.

You'll get more tapped into the Feminine Mind which is essentially a code word for the unconscious by doing trance meditation in different forms.

Wearing makeup, wearing dresses, etc has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever.

I see a lot of hoes walking around with colorful makeup on and they don't have a single clue about spirituality at all.

I think she just trying to connect it to how an artist can make a beautiful painting but I agree that just because someone can draw very well doesn't mean they'll understand even the basics of real spirituality. Just like a lot talented artists and singers know jack shit about spiritual energies. No pun intended btw.

I used to think creative people would be opened to SS but I've long since left that mentality. We have people here who are incredibly "left brained" who have a better understanding of the the meaning of life than all of the mainstream artistic world combined which are filled with far leftists and other nut jobs.

 

[hailourtruegod]

On an unrelated note to men wearing dresses, I think women wearing some make up and high heels is more than fine as long as it's not too much and you don't make that as your main look. For special occasions and what not. Women do look incredibly beautiful in these things but it gets played out and even dull if done all the time. This is just my opinion.

I like my "plain janes" and gone out of my way to go after them before instead of "barbies". Saw others putting their input on that subject and decided to add mine too.

 

[Stormblood]

I might be misunderstanding what you are saying with this, but this looks like the entire point that I am disagreeing with. It does not have any connection to spirituality or feminine psychic energy currents to put some paint on your face.

Yes a bit. But it's a little difficult for me to explain in words. Just putting something on your face isn't anything to do with spirituality, you're right about that part. The part you're missing is again the how of it. Makeup on its own is neutral, until you use it in an artistic and creative way, that's when you start tapping into the feminine mind.

We're use to makeup being just for practical and/or insecurity reasons, but that's only one side of it. Most makeup is essentially pigment applied to the skin, and that's something you can get very creative with.

Here's some examples if you like:

Doing this will not make you tapped into the Feminine Mind in any sort of way. It's a complete waste of time and energy with no Benefit for whatsoever.

The Feminine Intuitive Mind can be tapped in by trance meditations and ruminating on shapes and colors etc.

Putting colors on your face and wanting others to see it has nothing to do with The Feminine mind. By doing that you're putting the object of attainment outside of you which cannot exist in Gnosis.

In Gnosis ,the object of attainment is always from inside ,which is from meditation.

You'll get more tapped into the Feminine Mind which is essentially a code word for the unconscious by doing trance meditation in different forms.

Wearing makeup, wearing dresses, etc has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever.

I see a lot of hoes walking around with colorful makeup on and they don't have a single clue about spirituality at all.

I disagree with this. First of all, what is portrayed in the pictures is artistry. Arts are sacred to the Gods, and they are ruled by the planet Venus, automatically making them under the jurisdiction of female energies. This is a physical and mental way of expressing yourself. Free self-expression is necessary for every soul and it's not only done on the spiritual realms but also needs to be done physically. The material and the spiritual need to be developed at the same.

It's true that these people don't a clue about spirituality, yet they may have a much cleaner and more developed throat chakra. If you stifle your self-expression, you only end up creating blockages and hang-ups in your throat chakra, which will in turn hinder any creative endeavour, as to create you both the sacral and the throat chakra to be completely unhindered. Ansuz helps liberating the channels of self-expression.

Any form of self-expression is important, as long as it's in line with your soul and not the result of enemy brainwashing like drag queen nonsense and 3 tons of foundation used by actors. Repression and control, like Lydia explained in another topic, are 2 very different things. This message doesn't apply to emotions only but to anything in life, really. Artists have existed ever since the dawn of mankind. Lord Azazel is the patron of all arts. Let artists be artists.

 

[Jrvan]

Yes a bit. But it's a little difficult for me to explain in words. Just putting something on your face isn't anything to do with spirituality, you're right about that part. The part you're missing is again the how of it. Makeup on its own is neutral, until you use it in an artistic and creative way, that's when you start tapping into the feminine mind.

We're use to makeup being just for practical and/or insecurity reasons, but that's only one side of it. Most makeup is essentially pigment applied to the skin, and that's something you can get very creative with.

Here's some examples if you like:

Doing this will not make you tapped into the Feminine Mind in any sort of way. It's a complete waste of time and energy with no Benefit for whatsoever.

The Feminine Intuitive Mind can be tapped in by trance meditations and ruminating on shapes and colors etc.

Putting colors on your face and wanting others to see it has nothing to do with The Feminine mind. By doing that you're putting the object of attainment outside of you which cannot exist in Gnosis.

In Gnosis ,the object of attainment is always from inside ,which is from meditation.

You'll get more tapped into the Feminine Mind which is essentially a code word for the unconscious by doing trance meditation in different forms.

Wearing makeup, wearing dresses, etc has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever.

I see a lot of hoes walking around with colorful makeup on and they don't have a single clue about spirituality at all.

I think she just trying to connect it to how an artist can make a beautiful painting but I agree that just because someone can draw very well doesn't mean they'll understand even the basics of real spirituality. Just like a lot talented artists and singers know jack shit about spiritual energies. No pun intended btw.

I used to think creative people would be opened to SS but I've long since left that mentality. We have people here who are incredibly "left brained" who have a better understanding of the the meaning of life than all of the mainstream artistic world combined which are filled with far leftists and other nut jobs.

Understanding is only half the picture. There are scholarly types who understand everything with the left brain, but they won't ever practice it with the right brain. That's why Maxine said it's about knowledge AND applying that knowledge. You can understand everything and still be completely powerless because you don't do anything with the understanding. Likewise, what good is power if you don't understand how to use it properly?

Ironically, or perhaps within expectation, these far leftists and other nut jobs are achieving more change in society for better or worse than anyone else. The conservatives couldn't keep up with it decades ago, and they can barely even adapt now. And what do the conservatives do besides bark on the television as a talking head about all of their understanding of fiscal matters and practical considerations of reality? Yeah, they're right, but what are they accomplishing with that understanding? Meanwhile advertisers are doing the same things they have always done with the same success by talking to the right brains of people and programming them. Just like jews program peoples' subconscious minds with every single program they design, and then trying to impart conscious left brain understanding to their programmed golem zombies is impossible. You would have to engage in mass hypnosis to reach these mentally checked out degenerates.

Colors, symbols, icons, figurative meanings, styles of dress, styles of hair, etc... this all communicates to the right brain. It's the language of the female mind. If far leftists and other nutjobs fail to understand the meaning of life, then their counterparts of the left brain club fail to participate in life and understand the subconscious, nonverbal side of things. Both of these are imbalanced.

 

[tabby]

Par for the course.
I wish the few remaining problem children of the forums would hurry up and evolve past their problems so they stop dragging the rest of us down.

Either that, or Jack outlives his usefulness so he can be banned already.

Are you meaning to say that I am a problem just because I disagree with you about something?

I hope not. Especially since I think yourself can sometimes be much more accurately described as a problem than me. You have admitted that you often like to purposefully create fights and arguments for yourself to be involved in where none existed before. And this is a behaviour that everybody has seen you do. You seem to have a habit of ending up in the center of all kinds of fights here, even when the situation is personal between 2 people and has nothing to do with you. You said that this was to help another person by getting the attention off of them and onto yourself, so maybe you did have good intentions. But it is true that you seem to enjoy purposefully creating arguments.

This is not something that I have ever done. I have been involved with many arguments before, but I have never purposefully created one where it didn't exist before. The only thing I do when I see somebody giving incorrect or fictional "spiritual advice" is I try to correct it. And I try to add more information for the discussion. And I try to explain, calmly and using actual information and logic, what the truth actually is. And if somebody is an infiltrator jew who has been here on 30 different fake infiltrator accounts, then I have less patience and I say exactly what the person is.

Oh FFS.

I have a question. Actually a few. What would you do if the information you perceive to be false is only false to you because you did not understand it or misinterpreted it? What then? Suddenly a situation occurs where neither party can move onward to common ground because you firmly feel this information is incorrect, and the other is attempting to clear the misunderstanding by explaining further, which only ends up being discredited as "never happens, false" because you see it as false - no exceptions.

Is everyone else just expected to go along with it, and not get frustrated by the gate keeping that ends up occurring from this because something that is unconventional has been presented in the eyes of enemy programmed traditionalism, and overly logical and literal minds? Where does the line get drawn before things devolve into bringing people's personal life and struggles that they shared in the forums into the argument as ground to discredit the person's comments or post as nothing more than just "they have issues"?

Saying things like this here:
"So how would these strange things have any spiritual benefit to a man? They have no benefit to a woman either. These things have no relation to nature, and no relation to anyone's soul."

Or

"My point is that putting anything onto your face has nothing to do with spirituality, and it has nothing to do with either feminine or masculine energy currents. It is a meaningless action which has zero connection or influence on anybody's soul or psychic senses. It is entirely unrelated to anything spiritual."

- are too extreme and locked into an exaggerated generalization, which makes them very easy to disprove, and very frustrating to have a discussion around. You've been really pushy, Ol, even on the verge of feeling near forceful about your opinion that you do not believe what jrvan had originally been quite patient attempting to explain to you.

Now where do we go from here? Because you've pissed jrvan off for making this personal, starting with bringing up his past having struggles with male friends and putting words in his mouth when it didn't even need to be brought up. Things should have remained at debating talking points, not the person behind them.

Jack is a different case that you did not need to make yourself part of. The sting of his nonsense is still fresh from the recent shaming under another thread, and his immediate intentions when asking for the source under this thread were made quite clear. It's just another tally to the list at this point on Jack's score board.

 

[Jack]

Yes a bit. But it's a little difficult for me to explain in words. Just putting something on your face isn't anything to do with spirituality, you're right about that part. The part you're missing is again the how of it. Makeup on its own is neutral, until you use it in an artistic and creative way, that's when you start tapping into the feminine mind.

We're use to makeup being just for practical and/or insecurity reasons, but that's only one side of it. Most makeup is essentially pigment applied to the skin, and that's something you can get very creative with.

Here's some examples if you like:

Doing this will not make you tapped into the Feminine Mind in any sort of way. It's a complete waste of time and energy with no Benefit for whatsoever.

The Feminine Intuitive Mind can be tapped in by trance meditations and ruminating on shapes and colors etc.

Putting colors on your face and wanting others to see it has nothing to do with The Feminine mind. By doing that you're putting the object of attainment outside of you which cannot exist in Gnosis.

In Gnosis ,the object of attainment is always from inside ,which is from meditation.

You'll get more tapped into the Feminine Mind which is essentially a code word for the unconscious by doing trance meditation in different forms.

Wearing makeup, wearing dresses, etc has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever.

I see a lot of hoes walking around with colorful makeup on and they don't have a single clue about spirituality at all.

I disagree with this. First of all, what is portrayed in the pictures is artistry. Arts are sacred to the Gods, and they are ruled by the planet Venus, automatically making them under the jurisdiction of female energies. This is a physical and mental way of expressing yourself. Free self-expression is necessary for every soul and it's not only done on the spiritual realms but also needs to be done physically. The material and the spiritual need to be developed at the same.

It's true that these people don't a clue about spirituality, yet they may have a much cleaner and more developed throat chakra. If you stifle your self-expression, you only end up creating blockages and hang-ups in your throat chakra, which will in turn hinder any creative endeavour, as to create you both the sacral and the throat chakra to be completely unhindered. Ansuz helps liberating the channels of self-expression.

Any form of self-expression is important, as long as it's in line with your soul and not the result of enemy brainwashing like drag queen nonsense and 3 tons of foundation used by actors. Repression and control, like Lydia explained in another topic, are 2 very different things. This message doesn't apply to emotions only but to anything in life, really. Artists have existed ever since the dawn of mankind. Lord Azazel is the patron of all arts. Let artists be artists.

Artists are artists but art has nothing to do with Meditative spiritual process.

More importantly Art might not be the self expression of anyone and their self expression might be different.

The Self expression of a person might be Political Theory or writing and ruminating on Political theory and arrangement of Society. For Example - Carl Scmidt who was the Nazi Political Theorist. As far as I'm aware he wasn't an Artist but he was a very good Political Theorist.

He expressed himself not through Art but by Political theory. And he wasn't an Yogi as well.

In essence Art has nothing to do with Spirituality ,but with Self Expression.

Spirituality or Kriya Yoga is essentially working with Energies of the Soul.

Your Self Expression (Astrology) is a Karmic structure that is separate from the Spiritual Process.

For Example - EVERYONE has a self expression due to his/her Astrology but not Everyone actually meditates (spirituality).

If it were the case ,I could also make the argument that Working Numbers (Maths) was connected to Spirituality because it is ruled by logic and logic is part of masculine energies.

Logic is sacred to the Gods. Violence (Self defense) is Sacred to the Gods. Honor is Scared to the Gods. But are any of these elements Spiritual or have anything intrinsic to do with the Meditative process ? No. You can use Meditative processes to enhance these areas of your life but not the other way around.

All these extrapolations are just ways of an imaginative mind to create ((Free Associations)).

Kiya Yoga (Kundalini Yoga,Yoga in General) is a specific process where you work with Energies of the Soul. It has no Dependence on your Astrology, Self Expression or anything that expresses materially (to the outside.)

In fact the goal of Yoga is to go Beyond the Planets so you won't be trapped by Astrological Karmic Influences and can decide your own self expression without being Bound to a certain Astrological Makeup.

 

[Jack]

Yes a bit. But it's a little difficult for me to explain in words. Just putting something on your face isn't anything to do with spirituality, you're right about that part. The part you're missing is again the how of it. Makeup on its own is neutral, until you use it in an artistic and creative way, that's when you start tapping into the feminine mind.

We're use to makeup being just for practical and/or insecurity reasons, but that's only one side of it. Most makeup is essentially pigment applied to the skin, and that's something you can get very creative with.

Here's some examples if you like:

Doing this will not make you tapped into the Feminine Mind in any sort of way. It's a complete waste of time and energy with no Benefit for whatsoever.

The Feminine Intuitive Mind can be tapped in by trance meditations and ruminating on shapes and colors etc.

Putting colors on your face and wanting others to see it has nothing to do with The Feminine mind. By doing that you're putting the object of attainment outside of you which cannot exist in Gnosis.

In Gnosis ,the object of attainment is always from inside ,which is from meditation.

You'll get more tapped into the Feminine Mind which is essentially a code word for the unconscious by doing trance meditation in different forms.

Wearing makeup, wearing dresses, etc has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever.

I see a lot of hoes walking around with colorful makeup on and they don't have a single clue about spirituality at all.

I disagree with this. First of all, what is portrayed in the pictures is artistry. Arts are sacred to the Gods, and they are ruled by the planet Venus, automatically making them under the jurisdiction of female energies. This is a physical and mental way of expressing yourself. Free self-expression is necessary for every soul and it's not only done on the spiritual realms but also needs to be done physically. The material and the spiritual need to be developed at the same.

It's true that these people don't a clue about spirituality, yet they may have a much cleaner and more developed throat chakra. If you stifle your self-expression, you only end up creating blockages and hang-ups in your throat chakra, which will in turn hinder any creative endeavour, as to create you both the sacral and the throat chakra to be completely unhindered. Ansuz helps liberating the channels of self-expression.

Any form of self-expression is important, as long as it's in line with your soul and not the result of enemy brainwashing like drag queen nonsense and 3 tons of foundation used by actors. Repression and control, like Lydia explained in another topic, are 2 very different things. This message doesn't apply to emotions only but to anything in life, really. Artists have existed ever since the dawn of mankind. Lord Azazel is the patron of all arts. Let artists be artists.

Also the earlier message wasn't intended to bash the person who are arsty or are involved in those areas.

What I have an issue with is these Free Associations being created between everything related to the material world and spirituality which is an actual Process.

Drawing ,Painting, singing or whatever it is that you're trying to do will not help you in the spiritual process one bit.

Your expression is your expression and that's fine but doing all these things is not going to open up your mind or your soul.

For example - A man wears makeup and a woman's dress (crossdressing). He's not going to suddenly or subsequently become intune with the energies of the soul and become proficient at it.

For example - A woman who is very emotional in nature if she wears a suit and tries to pretend to be a man in the mirror, she's not suddenly or subsequently going to become more logical.

For Example - Dancing, Singing, Painting etc are not going to allow you to connect deeper into your soul in any way.

These are all self expressions due to Astrology. And everyone's self expression is different. You can do whatever you want but it has nothing to do with the Spiritual Process.

In order to master the Feminine (Shakti - Energy) you have to sit in trance and absorb an energy source (preferably the sun) and learn to direct it. Or generate energy and direct it. Or ruminate on shapes and colors that are representations of particular energies (Yantras) in trance.

For Example - I'm not an artsy person and ive never been involved in any kind of arts (drawing, stories, Dancing ,singing etc.) My personal Expression is in Political Theory, Organization, Categorization ,Patterns ,systems,Management etc. And I can direct and use energies on a level most people cannot ,including artists, musicians and who knows what.

In essence, stop confusing things with things that aren't related and focus on the important things.