Hi, I´m new

[oscarhl81]

Good evening everibdy.

My name is Oscar, and I´m 30 years old.

Please excuse me if my english is not corect.

I recently find the JOS website, and I´m like it a lot. I was glad to read that one can entablish a relationship with demons and Satan without becoming evil, and performing satanic rituals don´t mean yuo have to kill anyone.

I has been a spiritual researcher for many years. For the last 6 months I have worked with the futhark and become more serious about yoga(asanas and pranayamas).

I also experiment with shamanisim and enteogenics: Yage or ayahuasca(baniptheriosis caapi), "borrachero"(brugmansia Aurea) and mushroms. I want to know what is your position about this practiques.

I want some advise obut how to start, to be honest I am a little afraid of making the dedication. With all respect, it is a really big step to take just for reading an interesting web page. I want to know if there is another aprouch, somethink with I can work in order to become certain. Or if there is a more personal way to talk to yuor older members or even your priests. Do you have working covents in Colombia?

Thanks

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Hi Oscar. Nobody said you have to dedicate immediately, take your time to study, practice and everything. Read the exposing christianity page to completely deprogram yourself from the enemy hoaxes. And if you get ready you can dedicate yourself.

I don't understand how talking to humans will make you sure. In fact the site was written by a human, it's no different than a book. This religion is not based on contacting other humans, it's completely personal and usually begins their solitary practice. Covens are for advanced people to practice spiritual warfare against our enemies, not for newbies, not to learn, only trusted people are accepted as it's been mentioned. It's like saying that when you see a same statement written in a site you won't believe it, yet if somebody told you personally you would believe it!!You know how absurd this sounds? The Satanic way is to believe neither, just do your practices and research and find whether that statement is true or false from your experiences.

What you said:

"I was glad to read that one can entablish a relationship with demons and Satan without becoming evil, and performing satanic rituals don´t mean yuo have to kill anyone."

Well I think it's mildly insulting, because your entire wording seem to imply that our Gods are still evil, and all that bullcrap about sacrifices and other nonsense is optional. Of course it's the exact opposite, our Gods are AGAIST this bullshit which they were slandered with, they in fact OPPOSE harming innocent people, ESPECIALLY animals and children. Animals and children are sacred in Satanism. Plus Enki/Satan and our Gods love humanity, they do care for us, they are loving beings. They are also beautiful human-looking.

As about what you asked about entheogens, we're about empowering ourselves without depending on any plants or other external substances. We learn to be totally independant.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "oscarhl81" <oscarhl81@... wrote:

Good evening everibdy.

My name is Oscar, and I´m 30 years old.

Please excuse me if my english is not corect.

I recently find the JOS website, and I´m like it a lot. I was glad to read that one can entablish a relationship with demons and Satan without becoming evil, and performing satanic rituals don´t mean yuo have to kill anyone.

I has been a spiritual researcher for many years. For the last 6 months I have worked with the futhark and become more serious about yoga(asanas and pranayamas).

I also experiment with shamanisim and enteogenics: Yage or ayahuasca(baniptheriosis caapi), "borrachero"(brugmansia Aurea) and mushroms. I want to know what is your position about this practiques.

I want some advise obut how to start, to be honest I am a little afraid of making the dedication. With all respect, it is a really big step to take just for reading an interesting web page. I want to know if there is another aprouch, somethink with I can work in order to become certain. Or if there is a more personal way to talk to yuor older members or even your priests. Do you have working covents in Colombia?

Thanks

 

[oscarhl81]

Hi fire_starter

Thanks for your answer.

First, I apologie if you find what I said insulting, that was not my intention.

I´m always has been atracted to demonology ´cause of the posibility to really talk or interact whit a more evolve being(before I see demons more than angel like beings and not as Gods) but the information I foun (grimore type) does not fullfill me, ´couse of the evil implications and/or the disrespect treatment to demons.

What you said about demons are aincent Gods have a lot of sense to me. By the way you related them morely with egipcian gods, I think there is just one greek/roman reference(thot=hermes) what about other olimpians or about nordics?

And obuot Satan I see him, likely the Gods of your enemys, as someone far from humans, someone you can devoted or prey but hard to recibe an answer, some you have to belive in blindly. I´m exciting about your saying that one can have a real relationship with him.

I was raise Catholic, but I´m not alinied wiht them now, and with any religion. I don´t like the monotheistic rulers of today; but I have to admit i like some of their teachins, and some eastern teachins as well. Actually in search for original religions I found shamanism, unfortanely in order to find shamans who don´t be infected by xtians you have to go very far into the jungle, and I doesn´t do that yet.

You talk about coincedences, well I think I find you in the time when I´m ready for.

Fianlly, what practique do you recomend to start whit.

P.D. when I sais "You", except for the last line, I mean (JOS)