Hearing things

[Gearshift]

Astral hearing is basically from my experience just like a radio. You have to power up the radio, open it then listen. Most of the time you have to tune to the desired radio channel. A little comparison that proves true in experience by intent and will. Basic training, don't worry about it.

If something important is to be exclusively heard by you from the Gods, with or without astral points opened, you will hear.

This is a quote from Naked Pluto on another thread. I recall a while back I believe(might be wrong) it was Stormblood or was it Ghost in the Machine that mentioned schizophrenia is uncontrolled clairaudience.

I'm not spiritually advanced nor ever astrally projected. Just normal just do meditations and clean and whatnot.

But lately over the past year or so. I keep hearing voices from sounds like wind, air conditioner, sounds just sounds of voices. And funny enough 5 or 6 out of 10. When I investigate I hear people. For example I think I could be wrong here but I might be hearing people's subconscious mindwaves. I recall the other day hearing a female voice and then when I looked out the window it was the neighbor woman across the street, I didn't hear her car at all.

I also feel bad listening to these voices cause I state "Satan if my succubus isn't busy mind telling her to ping me". And I hear a voice a male voice state sure my son and then a moment later a female voice Hey what's up my name. I did a succubus ritual actually multiple not for multiple succubi but to do the ritual properly and correct proper connection.

And I hear this female voice but it feels like I'm making it up and talking to myself. I think my brain is making it up.

Is there a way to speak to beings of higher power in a simpler way?

For example I never astral projected believe me I tried at the end of the day I just want to go to bed and sleep nor can I trance. I've been obsessed with interacting with my succubus but never was able to do. I just can't seem to meditate properly voided or single-pointed nor in trance I just do and do my best.

Is this made up by my own mind am I going crazy? Or is this normal radio like static that you hear stuff but aren't actually it's just astral noises?

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

Once you have hightened bioelectricity and the astral points opened, from time to time you'll notice a field of energy, that radiates from within the brain. This is the energy that rises to the crown, that activates all of the chakras. This field once felt and trained on to be expanded can be used to hear the minds and thoughts of others and to connect to sigils etc. The field is a circle and not directional. Besides hearing, you aknowdlege with all senses the exterior.

Hearing the mind of others is extremely hard to describe. It is close to , I think, being schizophrenic, as in the feeling of it, and that's because the mind on non spiritual people is a river of tens of thoughts at the same time, overlapping each other and most of the time with no sense and very idiotic to be honest. I've read the mind of two people in my life, heard hundreds of thoughts not even in a minute and understood nothing.

Hearing your own thoughts without the inner voice but by meditation, amplified by trance as a hearing input, is the same and sometimes as an external being that talks. But the difference is that the thought is to be expected by the subcounciuos and it is different from proper communication. It is yourself talking to yourself.

All of the above is not going insane but is the begginning of real mind powers. The aspect that lack is training and experience.

When a God talks to me, the voice is extremely loud, different characteristics of a voice, comes from within the brain and it feels as a sound and vibration coming from everywhere. The loudness is so strong you cannot equate it to any other incidents self made.
This is in meditation.

Another thing is that most of the time the words may lack a letter or might be misplaced or a word in another language unknown. One time I was in extreme deep meditation. Any crack or sound like a paper falling on the ground would've scared me to death and degrade my nerves. I hear extremely loud the word in my native language "Terror". It woke me up to a lighter trance by the loudness and flash of light I had. I first understood as it is similar in my language the command "stay, you! " , But figured out that it was the word terror. Not even a couple of seconds and a pyro bomb outside my window took off. The sound of it if I would've been in that deep trance would've definitely have me go to the hospital, but I was woken up with a warning, and that warning in that urgent time was still hard to understand and be precise.

When in meditation you can condense energy into the astral points of hearing, until it opens up in deep meditation and hear static noise. When that noise is happening, will and picture anything you wish to listen to. And do train like that. Similarly wait for your own body of energy to open the points and train when your field is open and expanding.

 

[Gearshift]

@Naked Pluto

Okay then but it seems your doing some advanced meditation or maybe basic meditation. Honestly from reading your message it seems you use your imagination or something. Which leads me to believe that meditation is just using your imagination. Which if it is the case then I've been meditating everyday of my life as I literally imagine and contemplate every day since ever.

I don't I guess what I'm trying to state is if meditation is fake. Because I've never had any supernatural experience or any experience for that matter that states "I need to persue this further". I do some meditation burn myself out and then go "What is the point of this, I've never had any "fun" during my time meditating". I've never had any event state okay we need to go further.

It seems from reading your message you put it in a spiritual sense but for me all of it just seems crazy. As I've dealt with schizophrenia and psychosis in my life earlier in the decade.

I appreciate the message don't get me wrong but it seems like spirituality is being used as a guise to describe a mental illness. I guess we can argue some people without proper knowledge or assistance would suffer mental illness from meditation but with the Gods around they'd push the person further or heal them or do something to make the person realize it's not craziness but rather normalcy.

I understand don't get me wrong I just don't understand meditation. It's funny been at this since getting hardcore into meditation and cleaning/protecting in 2016-2017 when I discovered the forum despite being dedicated since 12 years old in 2003. If anything I'm more lost now doing all these meditations or whatever the hell I'm doing than ever before. If anything the ignorance and maybe even stupidity has further grown these last few years.

 

[User47826193]

Those years can be made in a couple of months, even weeks if you are aware of what you are doing.

For some this is true, but this would never be a possibility for me. I’m also not sure why you thought what I said was disrespectful. I wouldn’t know what to say to a Demon so for ME astral heading an communication isn’t an incentive.

I want to see a telekinetic person that developed by the JoS and Satan as being categorized as weak minded. When telekinesis requires supreme will and control over the mind, body and material reality. But hey , if he isn't also a saviour to all of us he's weak minded, because he chose to develop a power.

Telekinesis is still something that takes immense effort and practice to perform and it turns out to be completely useless. It’s not like you’re a God that can make 100lb rocks levitate and build the pyramids this way. I have seen videos it is literally the most pointless and unimpressive thing I have ever seen. It would be cool if you could make the bottle hover in mid air or spin it lightning fast but nope. The only people that can theoretically do this are Yogis that don’t post it to the internet.

 

[Henu the Great]

I know exactly how you feel I never got much out of meditation probably because I didn’t put much into it. I Activated my chakras a year ago and that’s as far I went it never seemed interesting or fulfilling to me. I’m not going to bust my ass for years on end with yoga and doing different PMS for hours everyday just so I can maybe slowly spin a plastic bottle using my mind, or maybe I’ll hear one word from a demon one time. I think most truly advanced and mature people will agree with me that “psychic powers” like telekinesis or astral hearing/projecting are mostly gimmicks that don’t have any practical use and are meant to lure in weak minded people. It’s like FREE CANDY painted on the side of a white van. The true fulfillment and powers come from the internal.

Not that I disregard the spiritual or think that it is ones imagination but I’m very apathetic towards my own advancement/empowerment it just seems completely pointless to me. The only thing I care about is the Rituals to destroy the enemy other than that none of the JoS material has use to me. Suppose I’m just too wrapped up in the physical/political side of things but maybe that’s my part to play everyone here has a different purpose.

Makes no sense to me why you would not see any use on spiritual alchemy.

You want to participate on warfare, but you see the thing is that once you grow your rituals become stronger. Not only that, but there are myriad of things to expierence and to gain aside from what you state.

And you also disrespect this whole offering of keys to our success with your post. Damn, for a moment I thought you were actually making some progress. Yet there you are, at the very same spot as ever.

However you are free to stay as a private for as long as you want. Free will and all. While others gain rank and power (this applies to Ritual like I typed above) you stay as a private...

 

[User47826193]

So what exactly is life for you?

I don’t really have a life in the traditional sense, I exist but that’s about it. Existing is different than living.

If you continue like this you're setting up yourself for a big big failure.

I’ve been a big failure for a few years now. The psychology of it is really unfortunate because we as humans don’t like change and see it as a very uncomfortable thing. For me bettering myself and excelling would probably feel negative because I am not used to it so I just don’t do it because failure is a friend.

However you are free to stay as a private for as long as you want. Free will and all. While others gain rank and power (this applies to Ritual like I typed above) you stay as a private...

What would the world do without privates? I don’t have nearly enough maturity in life or responsibility to be high ranking at anything without being a hinderance.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

Those years can be made in a couple of months, even weeks if you are aware of what you are doing.

For some this is true, but this would never be a possibility for me. I’m also not sure why you thought what I said was disrespectful. I wouldn’t know what to say to a Demon so for ME astral heading an communication isn’t an incentive.

I want to see a telekinetic person that developed by the JoS and Satan as being categorized as weak minded. When telekinesis requires supreme will and control over the mind, body and material reality. But hey , if he isn't also a saviour to all of us he's weak minded, because he chose to develop a power.

Telekinesis is still something that takes immense effort and practice to perform and it turns out to be completely useless. It’s not like you’re a God that can make 100lb rocks levitate and build the pyramids this way. I have seen videos it is literally the most pointless and unimpressive thing I have ever seen. It would be cool if you could make the bottle hover in mid air or spin it lightning fast but nope. The only people that can theoretically do this are Yogis that don’t post it to the internet.

You literally have Satanas written upside down, which is reverse in normal view. I think you need to write it normally. And the disrespect for me was saying in a laughing way and being oppositional that you need years and such hard work to hear one word from a Demon. Which is disrespectful and unaware of the highness of these beings, and secondly not true.

The work put into developing any kind of power like that, is a testament of how much able is a person. For example a telekinesis power to be developed and be maintained steady, the power acquired by the effort and focus and the learning curve, when put in a Ritual, will mean 100× the power of it vs a normal Ritual. This is different in advancement of consciousness, but here everything is hand in hand. Everything is interlaced.

As much as you advance as much your power grows in workings. I have faith you are of another type of man, and will find and seek the power within you and start advancing. There's literally nothing more beautiful. Everything you do in advancing is a service to self. In time you'll understand by doing even the basics. Please start that right away.

All that meditation, oh no excuse me, POWER MEDITATION, teaches, is to live, to want to live, to be excellent at it, and develop everything you are made of to be developed, and complete the Satan desire to become a living God. All of this is achievable. If you put the work in as you don't have any other responsibilities spiritual wise than the Rituals, in a year you can attain things that normal people would need 30 years to achieve. Indeed not all people are willing to advance, but everyone has a choice. If you are already here, and you chose not to, we can only hope for your being to chose this path later. Even if it takes a lifetime or more, time wasted was on your part.

 

[User47826193]

You literally have Satanas written upside down, which is reverse in normal view. I think you need to write it normally.

It’s a matter of PERCEPTION. I thought it would be a cool game for people to see my signature and think “hmm what does that say” and then flip it to read in the name of our God Satan. I can type out SATANAS right here and then turn my phone upside down for it to be reversed does that mean the SATANAS that I just typed out is negative or truly reversed? Maybe there’s someone that lives their life upside down like this.

Satanas in the right side up way for him is actually reversed so which is it? Something can’t be a universal law if it’s different for everyone what really matters is the intention and affirmation behind it which for me is a positive one.

And the disrespect for me was saying in a laughing way and being oppositional that you need years and such hard work to hear one word from a Demon. Which is disrespectful and unaware of the highness of these beings, and secondly not true.

Advancing for the sake of talking to Demons is a very selfish thing. They should only be talking to people like High Priests that have to relay important news and rituals/PMs to us not empty headed people that just want validation and to feel superior over others.

I don’t even think most people are telling the truth about astral communication and experiences they are LARPing about being able to talk to Demons just to push their own ideas and thoughts about others onto the forum like when Jake Carlson says something absurd, gets backlash for it and then says “sorry guys it was a message from a Demon that didn’t get through my third eye properly” or some stupid shit. Everybody knows what incident I’m talking about.

There’s a culture here where someone can say whatever they want and everyone else has to treat it like it is the ultimate truth because ALLEGEDLY this person intercepted their message from a God. People even use this in personal disputes of ego where some wisenheimer tells another wisenheimer that they are no good or of the enemy because a Demon told them so. No a demon did not say that so it either makes one delusional or a complete liar. “The Gods said” carries no weight anymore because self serving people with ulterior motives used it to make themselves look good and truthful.

 

[Henu the Great]

What would the world do without privates? I don’t have nearly enough maturity in life or responsibility to be high ranking at anything without being a hinderance.

That was metaphorical.

Satan has decreed for us as a species to evolve. That means we are to reach Godhood, and beyond. In more practical and day to day meaning of this is to surpass our self of yesterday. Be it mentally, physically or spiritually, or all of those.

Literally speaking, one has not to become "high ranking". One can very well be a corporal for all of their life and that is all fine and well. Beyond that however, we are supposed to grow as individuals and this will over time shed skin and remove being a hindrance, as you say it.

 

[Priest - Alexandros Iowno]

You literally have Satanas written upside down, which is reverse in normal view. I think you need to write it normally.

It’s a matter of PERCEPTION. I thought it would be a cool game for people to see my signature and think “hmm what does that say” and then flip it to read in the name of our God Satan. I can type out SATANAS right here and then turn my phone upside down for it to be reversed does that mean the SATANAS that I just typed out is negative or truly reversed? Maybe there’s someone that lives their life upside down like this.

Satanas in the right side up way for him is actually reversed so which is it? Something can’t be a universal law if it’s different for everyone what really matters is the intention and affirmation behind it which for me is a positive one.

And the disrespect for me was saying in a laughing way and being oppositional that you need years and such hard work to hear one word from a Demon. Which is disrespectful and unaware of the highness of these beings, and secondly not true.

Advancing for the sake of talking to Demons is a very selfish thing. They should only be talking to people like High Priests that have to relay important news and rituals/PMs to us not empty headed people that just want validation and to feel superior over others.

I don’t even think most people are telling the truth about astral communication and experiences they are LARPing about being able to talk to Demons just to push their own ideas and thoughts about others onto the forum like when Jake Carlson says something absurd, gets backlash for it and then says “sorry guys it was a message from a Demon that didn’t get through my third eye properly” or some stupid shit. Everybody knows what incident I’m talking about.

There’s a culture here where someone can say whatever they want and everyone else has to treat it like it is the ultimate truth because ALLEGEDLY this person intercepted their message from a God. People even use this in personal disputes of ego where some wisenheimer tells another wisenheimer that they are no good or of the enemy because a Demon told them so. No a demon did not say that so it either makes one delusional or a complete liar. “The Gods said” carries no weight anymore because self serving people with ulterior motives used it to make themselves look good and truthful.

I totally agree with about people larping, and some select few telling everybody what they've been told by Satan or another God, which from my experience and point of view, by a multitude of judgemental factors, is delusion, self lying or purposefully stating some things. No arguing on that.

Satan does not give advice that can be found in the self help book at the cornerstone, or that is already written by in some random blog about psychology for dummies. Whenever a God speaks, the words received have meaning for eternity.

I don't consider myself an empty human, neither need validation or ego boost. I actually have an enormous ego and I know how to satisfy my needs and desires without getting in way of our agenda, our people and goals.

Satan and the Gods do guide, create, speak and lead us. Every newbie, whether or not he she knew, was and is guided directly by the powers of Hell.

It isn't only the clergy who speak with the Gods on a direct basis. Be 100% sure of that. And neither should we have a say on what a God does, desires and how they approach us. What is for certain, is that we must approach as well.

Every Zevism needs and has a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH SATAN AND THE GODS. Without this, everything is in vain and is called stagnation.

 

[User47826193]

as long as you're clean enough to understand things properly and not letting dirt in your mind create a negative bias.

My subconscious mind works against me so complete positivity and no doubt is unattainable.

Although I think it's unfortunate, if you're really not that interested in the spiritual side of things, perhaps you could focus more on internet warfare instead? There was a thread about it recently by HP. Zevios.

The Internet is not physical and screens are not reality. I’m infatuated with the iconography, the flags, uniforms, marches, slogans, leaders, propaganda flyers. But everyone seems to be against doing something other than talk online.

Also finally to put I read the post on Lunar Dance 666 and she or he just gave the same answer everyone gives cause of gravity. We know gravity holds the motorcycle down but we actually don't know why it wants to stay up we state gyroscopic forces but we don't know if that is actually 100% guaranteed science behind it.

Gravity is just the deflection non-answer everyone gives when they are either lying or don’t understand what they are saying. I’m not talking about LD666 either this applies to the mainstream astrophysicists like Neil degrasse Tyson or the related other actors. The scientists admit they don’t understand gravity of how it works so how can gravity be the answer to ANYTHING when it is really the problem that we are trying to solve?

 

[Henu the Great]

The Internet is not physical and screens are not reality. I’m infatuated with the iconography, the flags, uniforms, marches, slogans, leaders, propaganda flyers. But everyone seems to be against doing something other than talk online.

It's an extension of the physical or the physical is extension of it. Depends on the viewpoint.

Not all are against physical warfare. Just don't be stupid when you do it and expose yourself, that's all. This applies to online and offline.

 

[User47826193]

I suggest you consider buying a reading from Lydia someday.

About 3 months ago another Zevism reached out to me for a reading and he’s doing it free of charge so I said he could take as much time as necessary. But the last few posts he’s made indicate he is going through a negative period and just hasn’t gotten to it. We haven’t emailed since April. No point in getting one from Lydia I’m sure she has enough orders and it would take even longer.

 

[Gearshift]

Blackdragon believe what you want to believe infiltrator or not, anti-meditator vs meditator.

But it has never helped me I dedicated 2003 meditated a week or two weeks saw the yoga thing saw various things and go "Why the hell should I do this great more bullshit to do more physical crap" gave up. Various times over the years meditated did this, this and that. But nothing. I don't want to meditate it doesn't work.

I vibrate thaum into my 3rd eye. Okay then what next? I do it where is the rep range, how long should I do it, what affirmation should I do, how long should I "meditate for", what IS meditation on the 3rd eye. etc.etc.

You simply state do this on your 3rd eye and I have to reply "What is the point?"

I really don't see the point in meditation. I want to do fun things like astral projection or advanced lucid dreaming or yoga nidra. Funny been looking up lucid dreaming and astral projecting since 1999 when I discovered it on the internet NEVER been able to do it.

It seems like religion is just a life-long preoccupation for you to not do bad things. Guess that's what occurred with me.

I simply dedicated hoped for the best nothing happened so I just spent years upon years contemplating religion and JoS and whatnot and just creating a xtianistic Satanism whereby I realized life sucks and is a worthless piece of shit. Now of course even before JoS I did consider life a worthless piece of shit that serves no purpose. But I guess JoS gave me answers to questions I have on why life is a worthless piece of shit.

I simply study JoS and come to the forums to learn for the sake of learning. Like my astrological chart "learn for the sake of learning".

What can I say it intrigues me but it's just a mental curiosity. I'm not actually gonna waste my time meditating as that serves no purpose. I sit down, meditate, let my thoughts blast through my mind what can I say I'm a thinker. I think I like thinking.

Either way for me meditation never worked. If it did I would have never come on the forums. IF anything everytime I read on meditation more thoughts, fantasies, and other aspects come to my mind on it.

So I run away from life IF life is a worthless piece of shit. Of course I'm gonna run away I don't want that bullshit on me.

(And btw I'm not an infiltrator if I was you'd know I can assure you I'm genuine I just realized genuinely speaking meditation is fake it doesn't work. If it does work then it would have worked for me and I would not be on the forums as it's pointless)

 

[Jack]

All you state here, is that you are an outsider, at least to me. If you cannot understand how to enter a trance and say power meditation is impossible, how can we help with your doubts about other things, when literary we have a library on JoS. You even compare yourself and us to literal Gods. You've spend decades here, yet you need more than this. Truthfully others needed months or a couple of weeks or not at all, this however is pointless to compare, but good to know as in what not to do and be.

Good post, know we know. The sad part is, any effort of others to explain facts to you is wasted time from them, as you won't understand. No one neither Gods will go out their way for you to be proven something.

There is also a new post Cobra made, you might want to read it as well.

I think he has something genetically wrong with him. There's a good possibility that his nadis have been damaged. Because even random people picked up from the street are able to experience the souls energy from basic yoga.

I tried to help him by recommending him to do something physical atleast to help the cause but I don't think he's going to do anything. This is basically an alternate world created to escape reality.

How are Nadis damaged? I read a long time ago in a sermon that some Satanists have been held back spirituality for far too long. Could this be the cause?

Some kind of rare genetic disorder could be the cause. But generally when someone can't feel energy, its either psychological (severely repressed emotions due to trauma) or a problem with nadia (genetic or cause unknown. )

An acupuncturist could probably try to do something.

 

[Gearshift]

@Black Dragon

Look I would LOVE to help myself and receive help. I believe I deserve it maybe even go so far as to demand it. But not with meditation I don't want to burden people with my problems. Same reason I don't summon the Gods or if I have in the past only a few times probably 6-7 times. Why should I summon a being of higher power when I answer my own questions. Several times I just talk out loud to this supposed entity/person who wishes to hear me out and I'm basically answering my own questions. There is a reason why I state "I know everything" perhaps it's a negative affirmation and I use it as a crutch not to study just intuit with my mind.

I feel personally since I can't void nor trance that meditation is fake. I've never been able to meditate properly. Probably one of the reasons I like mantra or physical stuff like yoga even though I hate doing physical activities. At least something is done, calming meditations or sitting meditations didn't do it for me.

I sit down all these thoughts pop in, fantasies, I literally hate relaxing and calming myself down. It's weird.

And no I don't slander the very means of things if it doesn't work, it doesn't work what can I say lie to myself.

Living is so tiring if meditation worked I wouldn't be on the forums. I'd simply be in my own World figuring stuff out on my own maybe summoning Demons/Gods or whatever but even then I don't like doing that.

Either way if meditation is to work for me I gotta void and trance without that it doesn't work it's just mental imagining. I guess you can argue I've been meditating everyday of my life imagining all this stuff growing up.

I never had fun with meditation if anything meditating everyday is just a chore much like mantra on chakras way too much time it takes up. I don't feel different or better. As a matter of fact my parents have heard me meditate and I come out more pist off and more angry even having my father going "How can you meditate and calm yourself down and all you do is scream and tell us bad words and anger at us".

Well because everything pisses me off, I'm always pist off. What can I say I'm an angry soul.

Either way every day is lunacy even spending 2 minutes trying to void is pure agony. I don't like meditating it never worked.