Franz Bardon Question

[Draco Majinn]

I can not help but feel a tremendous amount of gratitude and respect towards Franz Bardon. I have heard he was with the enemy though, hence certain suspicious teachings in his writings.

Although he was at least honest enough of a Mage to admit magick can be used for destructive as well as creative purposes although he disaproved of the black arts himself. This is more than can be said for Wicca and many other occultists who will deliberately mislead people just to reinforce their own subjective values.

Was he deliberately working with the enemy or being misled?

I am confused at how someone as skilled as him could be decieved like that. Just reading his work he sounds like he was almost super human.
But at the same time I have to say, I can't see why anyone with ill intentions towards humanity would make such an effort to get knolwegde out there like he did, especially at a time and in a country where he could of faced persecution for doing so.

So basically my question is was he anti gentile and working with the enemy purposefully or was he benevolent at heart but being decieved like many of our people out there?

Thanks in advance for answers.

Hail Satan!

 

[HenryH]

Anyone of he enemy is is pro parasite. If you have read The key to the true qaballah analytically you would have come across a passage that hints at these so called white lighters usage of the dark arts. Where frabato describes the single letter oscillations under "O" he implies that anyone who has mastered this vibration, and has been given the go ahead by enemy angels(divine providence), can use black magic.


"By the mastery of the "O" oscillation in the mental
body, the quabbalist attains a high power of judgment and the ability to comprehend spiritually any legality, any interference by Divine Providence for the sake of justice. Having become incarnated justice himself by the oscillation of letter "O", the quabbalist who has
proceeded thus far will never *condemn* anyone unjustly."

Isn't condemn just a euphemism for curse?

"This oscillation evokes absolute astral contentment and poise in the astral body and bestows on the quabbalist the power to evoke, by quabbalah, any situation in the astral world
-- without being made responsible for it by fate in any sense --"

Karma is based on the presupposition that any negativity sent out will will come back, but by using "O" you can supercede this so call jew aged law.

"Since the quabbalist has now become incarnated justice himself, he will never want to bring about unfavorable situations in any
sphere without the strict order by Divine Providence."

Franz Bardon practiced black magic.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

I can not help but feel a tremendous amount of gratitude and respect towards Franz Bardon. I have heard he was with the enemy though, hence certain suspicious teachings in his writings.

Although he was at least honest enough of a Mage to admit magick can be used for destructive as well as creative purposes although he disaproved of the black arts himself. This is more than can be said for Wicca and many other occultists who will deliberately mislead people just to reinforce their own subjective values.

Was he deliberately working with the enemy or being misled?

I am confused at how someone as skilled as him could be decieved like that. Just reading his work he sounds like he was almost super human.
But at the same time I have to say, I can't see why anyone with ill intentions towards humanity would make such an effort to get knolwegde out there like he did, especially at a time and in a country where he could of faced persecution for doing so.

So basically my question is was he anti gentile and working with the enemy purposefully or was he benevolent at heart but being decieved like many of our people out there?

Thanks in advance for answers.

Hail Satan!

 

[hoodedcobra666]

Will be a long post but I will explain everything in regards to 'Frabato'. I know what I write here for a fact.

I knew a post on Franz Bardon/Frabato was coming up. So I prepared a full answer and I read his books. I'll explain everything to you about this guy, because I too was intrigued. First of all yes Frabato was a really capable and skilled man, magickally. He was very capable and aware not to mention that he actually had the powers he was writting about. Now its different. Franz Bardon was actually a man, then its said that something happened and 'Frabato' took the place of Franz Bardon. To not overstrech facts, Frabato was a member of the federation of light, which is hostile towards Humanity in the actual sense. His books and works were advertising the federation of light, which is nothing else than a communist alien clique, that only aims to enslave people. If you read carefully, the communistic tendency of this space clique is obvious.

1. They do nothing to change fate.
2. They do not allow members to use their powers freely.
3. Once one is used, is tossed away in the battery named the one and loses existence.
4. Frabato faced endless karmic shit, that none should feel. His clique encouraged that he should get through the shit. He suffered endlessly in the hands of fate.

The enemy when notices someone with intense gifts, they will try to get to them, bride them and get them to work with them. They use these people and toss them around. They make them tools, from which the enemies of Humanity act and cause all kinds of feats, spread all kinds of knowledge. They don't do this to help people escape karma, neither their intentions are good. Their intention is to help people evolve and then guide them shamelessly into 'the one'. Thats why they offer knowledge. The stronger the persons consumed, the more power in this battery, not to mention that people will promote the nazarene and bring more people on this dull institution.

Its obvious that Frabato was being used like a power outlet for the enemy. He was used. His personal intentions were not bad probably, but he was used and like a handcherchief was thrown in the bin. I won't lie, I respect Franz Bardon for what he did and how he was able to pull this out. I don't respect the communist aliens behind his ass.

If this knowledge provided there is used how the 'Galactic federation of light' wants, Humanity won't advance at all, won't escape fate, won't get enlightened, won't fight back and they will just still be slaves on a bit higher level than they are today, which will be limited and monitored by them. Nothing changes, they are still slave masters. They are not afraid of beings having a bit 'more' power, they would make better batteries and before doing anything they would ask the 'mighty providence' if they can take a shit or not. What they are dead afraid of is people advancing in Satan's side, because this is when one knows the whole Truth.

What is actually the case, is that beings like Frabato are open to anyone. Especially the Powers of Hell, are capable and especially Satan is more than able to jumble their communications and control them without their conscious knowledge. I know this for a fact. In some parts of the books of Frabato, you notice this character instructing Frabato saying some things that a communistic being wouldn't say, but you have to read it the Satanic way to understand it. This shows that even this 'Urgaya' had his will influenced without knowing. To not overstrech matters, it was Satan's intention this book would be written. The enemy would never give out such knowledge, but the only reason they should it would be so that it could be under their firm control, people using this being their vessels. If any outsider abuses magickal knwoledge they will face disaster if they do not confrom to the enemy and this has been the case for many many people. Don't treat Frabato like he was some kind of 'God'. A being like Satan can twist such persons without their knowledge. Also the wealth of information is far more vast than what the enemy ET's would want us to have, but I will note here and I don't want to arouse any nerves, that this is literally a beggining of True Magickal Knowledge. One is not a God by knowing fully Frabato's writtings, its a level. There are things past these, which are directly given to Satan's people from Satan Himself. These are the Tools to be Mastered. From there on one needs Divine Guidance from Satan and can become a great God, by learning HOW to use these gifts.

This is all very complex; just know that Initiation into Hermetics is information from Satan that is magickal knowledge. Read this book through Satanic eyes, take the three-fold karmic bullshit out. Connect the dots with the JoS, practice endlessly and you will already be so many steps ahead...That it will be hard to grasp. When all this is mastered, you can create and get guided to the information to get EVEN higher. Remember there is no limit. As for what I wrote, try to understand it through your Satanic instict, not only logic because only logic will fail to answer fully. Use both your Satanic understanding emotional and logical.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

I can not help but feel a tremendous amount of gratitude and respect towards Franz Bardon. I have heard he was with the enemy though, hence certain suspicious teachings in his writings.

Although he was at least honest enough of a Mage to admit magick can be used for destructive as well as creative purposes although he disaproved of the black arts himself. This is more than can be said for Wicca and many other occultists who will deliberately mislead people just to reinforce their own subjective values.

Was he deliberately working with the enemy or being misled?

I am confused at how someone as skilled as him could be decieved like that. Just reading his work he sounds like he was almost super human.
But at the same time I have to say, I can't see why anyone with ill intentions towards humanity would make such an effort to get knolwegde out there like he did, especially at a time and in a country where he could of faced persecution for doing so.

So basically my question is was he anti gentile and working with the enemy purposefully or was he benevolent at heart but being decieved like many of our people out there?

Thanks in advance for answers.

Hail Satan!

 

[Don Danko]

I have to doubt it. Don't get hooked by the hype of "Frabato" which was a troll book wrote a devoted fan who worked for him. Bardon from reports was shocked at how bullshit it was and forbade her from printing it. The fact is Bardon had health problems his whole life and from how he died. You can see he had no actual spiritual power as the aliment that killed him would not exist given what it shows. Bardon's knowledge from his first book he got off his teacher who was a member of a Satanic Lodge. This role was reversed in "Fartbutto" where the gentleman in question was turned into his humble, devoted tag along. In all reality I would not be suprised if the Siddhi's wrote in for Bardon in that book, where not actually his Satanic mentor. Bardon himself did have a large personal libary of occult texts which where taken by the Communist authority after the war. Which shows something why would an "atheistic" political system be so obessed with taking a mans occult texts and keeping them for themselves. Anyway we can see in Bardon's other two books the majority of his occult texts where probably based on corrupted knowledge. At some point Bardon decided to branch out on his own and put a lot of enemy doctrines in his work. Maybe he should have laided off the booze. It is a revealing fact Bardon's books are around but heavy reads. Hence the new agers don't mention him. Because its mainly bullshit yes, but its a tech manual more then anything. Its the same how Avalon's books are also really never brought up by the new agers. Despite the fact many have stolen from his most famous book. For the same reason the new age is not serious about any spiritual knowledge and practice either of true knowledge or bullshit.
From: hoodedcobra666 <hoodedcobra666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 1:46:14 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Franz Bardon Question

  Will be a long post but I will explain everything in regards to 'Frabato'. I know what I write here for a fact.

I knew a post on Franz Bardon/Frabato was coming up. So I prepared a full answer and I read his books. I'll explain everything to you about this guy, because I too was intrigued. First of all yes Frabato was a really capable and skilled man, magickally. He was very capable and aware not to mention that he actually had the powers he was writting about. Now its different. Franz Bardon was actually a man, then its said that something happened and 'Frabato' took the place of Franz Bardon. To not overstrech facts, Frabato was a member of the federation of light, which is hostile towards Humanity in the actual sense. His books and works were advertising the federation of light, which is nothing else than a communist alien clique, that only aims to enslave people. If you read carefully, the communistic tendency of this space clique is obvious.

1. They do nothing to change fate.
2. They do not allow members to use their powers freely.
3. Once one is used, is tossed away in the battery named the one and loses existence.
4. Frabato faced endless karmic shit, that none should feel. His clique encouraged that he should get through the shit. He suffered endlessly in the hands of fate.

The enemy when notices someone with intense gifts, they will try to get to them, bride them and get them to work with them. They use these people and toss them around. They make them tools, from which the enemies of Humanity act and cause all kinds of feats, spread all kinds of knowledge. They don't do this to help people escape karma, neither their intentions are good. Their intention is to help people evolve and then guide them shamelessly into 'the one'. Thats why they offer knowledge. The stronger the persons consumed, the more power in this battery, not to mention that people will promote the nazarene and bring more people on this dull institution.

Its obvious that Frabato was being used like a power outlet for the enemy. He was used. His personal intentions were not bad probably, but he was used and like a handcherchief was thrown in the bin. I won't lie, I respect Franz Bardon for what he did and how he was able to pull this out. I don't respect the communist aliens behind his ass.

If this knowledge provided there is used how the 'Galactic federation of light' wants, Humanity won't advance at all, won't escape fate, won't get enlightened, won't fight back and they will just still be slaves on a bit higher level than they are today, which will be limited and monitored by them. Nothing changes, they are still slave masters. They are not afraid of beings having a bit 'more' power, they would make better batteries and before doing anything they would ask the 'mighty providence' if they can take a shit or not. What they are dead afraid of is people advancing in Satan's side, because this is when one knows the whole Truth.

What is actually the case, is that beings like Frabato are open to anyone. Especially the Powers of Hell, are capable and especially Satan is more than able to jumble their communications and control them without their conscious knowledge. I know this for a fact. In some parts of the books of Frabato, you notice this character instructing Frabato saying some things that a communistic being wouldn't say, but you have to read it the Satanic way to understand it. This shows that even this 'Urgaya' had his will influenced without knowing. To not overstrech matters, it was Satan's intention this book would be written. The enemy would never give out such knowledge, but the only reason they should it would be so that it could be under their firm control, people using this being their vessels. If any outsider abuses magickal knwoledge they will face disaster if they do not confrom to the enemy and this has been the case for many many people. Don't treat Frabato like he was some kind of 'God'. A being like Satan can twist such persons without their knowledge. Also the wealth of information is far more vast than what the enemy ET's would want us to have, but I will note here and I don't want to arouse any nerves, that this is literally a beggining of True Magickal Knowledge. One is not a God by knowing fully Frabato's writtings, its a level. There are things past these, which are directly given to Satan's people from Satan Himself. These are the Tools to be Mastered. From there on one needs Divine Guidance from Satan and can become a great God, by learning HOW to use these gifts.

This is all very complex; just know that Initiation into Hermetics is information from Satan that is magickal knowledge. Read this book through Satanic eyes, take the three-fold karmic bullshit out. Connect the dots with the JoS, practice endlessly and you will already be so many steps ahead...That it will be hard to grasp. When all this is mastered, you can create and get guided to the information to get EVEN higher. Remember there is no limit. As for what I wrote, try to understand it through your Satanic instict, not only logic because only logic will fail to answer fully. Use both your Satanic understanding emotional and logical.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

I can not help but feel a tremendous amount of gratitude and respect towards Franz Bardon. I have heard he was with the enemy though, hence certain suspicious teachings in his writings.

Although he was at least honest enough of a Mage to admit magick can be used for destructive as well as creative purposes although he disaproved of the black arts himself. This is more than can be said for Wicca and many other occultists who will deliberately mislead people just to reinforce their own subjective values.

Was he deliberately working with the enemy or being misled?

I am confused at how someone as skilled as him could be decieved like that. Just reading his work he sounds like he was almost super human.
But at the same time I have to say, I can't see why anyone with ill intentions towards humanity would make such an effort to get knolwegde out there like he did, especially at a time and in a country where he could of faced persecution for doing so.

So basically my question is was he anti gentile and working with the enemy purposefully or was he benevolent at heart but being decieved like many of our people out there?

Thanks in advance for answers.

Hail Satan!

 

[hoodedcobra666]

I believe that either way, the Initiation into Hermetics comes from Satan and is a spiritual manual by OUR side and not this communistic imbecile crapsters. Be it through the 'brothers of light' without their knowledge OR through what you mentioned [A Satanic source which was Brandon's mentor] which makes more sense. Additionally the smearing of Satanic Lodges, in the xian way of smearing and thinking over of facts was quite obvious that some deluded monkey was sitting behind the pen. Not to add that who knows what mental illnesses could 'Frabato' have after torture, war and being allied to this sick and disorted communistic 'brotherhood'. The fact that as you mentioned, him being sick, subject to fate or whatever- just shows the fact that he either had power he wasn't "allowed" to use, being a slave or didn't have power and was just another 'magick through this vessel' type of thing.

Everyone makes a big deal of him, I consider him nothing extraordinary, but for someone who is not a Satanist if this information is true [which my research was based upon] then thats really SOMETHING for someone who is without.

I think this piece'o'shit writting/revising the book just made it a disorted xian fantasy novel then and it was actually through her that all these lies about how 'The brotherhood of light' wants people to have knowledge. Which could have been far from fact, something far from what. As for this lie in 'Frabato' [aside for anything else] that 21 persons in the F.O.G.C. lodge did fail in killing 'Frabato'. Thats nonsense. This is overstreched fantasy that the writter did on purpose, not more than how a xian preacher would strech out facts and rave about how 'god is stronger than Satan through his chosen people!' bullshit. Personally I have to doubt that 'living sacrifice' was practiced by the F.O.G.C. This most probably is fiction ideas of the revisor/writter of the book.

For the communistic shit, I can understand it. Its just judaism. They keep people blind and they use all the occult forces, aside from the physical ones to TOTALLY and COMPLETELY eradicate freedom. Also communism I would say is 'giving atheism to the slaves' [give them a total lack of spiritual knowledge too] while those at the top are well aware of 'god', the 'jhvh' ilk and the 'godlike powers of the mind' and use them endlessly till everyone under their feet cracks open. Communism then is not atheistic. All the slaves have the slave masters as their 'gods' which they serve endlessly like cattle day and night. Communism is making the jew your 'god' in the physical sense.

The new age is only aiming to delude people and give a false gratification of the need that the upcoming age creates in the psyche. Like, if there was Satan reigning the Age of Pisces would be an age of deep spirituality and actual compassion. So they gave a lie to people and fullfilled this in the worst disorted sense, false compassion, false rentless slavery spirituality. Right now they prepare a formula of bunk spirituality that has detrimental effects, so that it will fit the new age of Aquarius. The 'freedom' and '6 sided pyramid merkaba' meditations, not to mention others that work directly with the enemy ilk and are quite sick.

Now this brought birth in some questions into my mind. First of, how do you know that Frabato had a Satanic mentor? Then how did this Satanic mentor share information with this donkey of the light Bardon? He could have NOT shared anything and just Brandon observing him, nothing more, then spreading stories that this person did through the facade of his own name. I would like to ask where did you find this information? I want to deepen my studies, just to know what is actually being the story behind this guy. If you could, please hand me the refferences and I will check on it further.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Don Danko <mageson6666@... wrote:

I have to doubt it. Don't get hooked by the hype of "Frabato" which was a troll book wrote a devoted fan who worked for him. Bardon from reports was shocked at how bullshit it was and forbade her from printing it. The fact is Bardon had health problems his whole life and from how he died. You can see he had no actual spiritual power as the aliment that killed him would not exist given what it shows.
 
Bardon's knowledge from his first book he got off his teacher who was a member of a Satanic Lodge. This role was reversed in "Fartbutto" where the gentleman in question was turned into his humble, devoted tag along. In all reality I would not be suprised if the Siddhi's wrote in for Bardon in that book, where not actually his Satanic mentor.
 
Bardon himself did have a large personal libary of occult texts which where taken by the Communist authority after the war. Which shows something why would an "atheistic" political system be so obessed with taking a mans occult texts and keeping them for themselves.
 
Anyway we can see in Bardon's other two books the majority of his occult texts where probably based on corrupted knowledge. At some point Bardon decided to branch out on his own and put a lot of enemy doctrines in his work. Maybe he should have laided off the booze.
 
It is a revealing fact Bardon's books are around but heavy reads. Hence the new agers don't mention him. Because its mainly bullshit yes, but its a tech manual more then anything. Its the same how Avalon's books are also really never brought up by the new agers. Despite the fact many have stolen from his most famous book. For the same reason the new age is not serious about any spiritual knowledge and practice either of true knowledge or bullshit.


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From: hoodedcobra666 <hoodedcobra666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 1:46:14 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Franz Bardon Question



 

Will be a long post but I will explain everything in regards to 'Frabato'. I know what I write here for a fact.

I knew a post on Franz Bardon/Frabato was coming up. So I prepared a full answer and I read his books. I'll explain everything to you about this guy, because I too was intrigued. First of all yes Frabato was a really capable and skilled man, magickally. He was very capable and aware not to mention that he actually had the powers he was writting about. Now its different. Franz Bardon was actually a man, then its said that something happened and 'Frabato' took the place of Franz Bardon. To not overstrech facts, Frabato was a member of the federation of light, which is hostile towards Humanity in the actual sense. His books and works were advertising the federation of light, which is nothing else than a communist alien clique, that only aims to enslave people. If you read carefully, the communistic tendency of this space clique is obvious.

1. They do nothing to change fate.
2. They do not allow members to use their powers freely.
3. Once one is used, is tossed away in the battery named the one and loses existence.
4. Frabato faced endless karmic shit, that none should feel. His clique encouraged that he should get through the shit. He suffered endlessly in the hands of fate.

The enemy when notices someone with intense gifts, they will try to get to them, bride them and get them to work with them. They use these people and toss them around. They make them tools, from which the enemies of Humanity act and cause all kinds of feats, spread all kinds of knowledge. They don't do this to help people escape karma, neither their intentions are good. Their intention is to help people evolve and then guide them shamelessly into 'the one'. Thats why they offer knowledge. The stronger the persons consumed, the more power in this battery, not to mention that people will promote the nazarene and bring more people on this dull institution.

Its obvious that Frabato was being used like a power outlet for the enemy. He was used. His personal intentions were not bad probably, but he was used and like a handcherchief was thrown in the bin. I won't lie, I respect Franz Bardon for what he did and how he was able to pull this out. I don't respect the communist aliens behind his ass.

If this knowledge provided there is used how the 'Galactic federation of light' wants, Humanity won't advance at all, won't escape fate, won't get enlightened, won't fight back and they will just still be slaves on a bit higher level than they are today, which will be limited and monitored by them. Nothing changes, they are still slave masters. They are not afraid of beings having a bit 'more' power, they would make better batteries and before doing anything they would ask the 'mighty providence' if they can take a shit or not. What they are dead afraid of is people advancing in Satan's side, because this is when one knows the whole Truth.

What is actually the case, is that beings like Frabato are open to anyone. Especially the Powers of Hell, are capable and especially Satan is more than able to jumble their communications and control them without their conscious knowledge. I know this for a fact. In some parts of the books of Frabato, you notice this character instructing Frabato saying some things that a communistic being wouldn't say, but you have to read it the Satanic way to understand it. This shows that even this 'Urgaya' had his will influenced without knowing. To not overstrech matters, it was Satan's intention this book would be written. The enemy would never give out such knowledge, but the only reason they should it would be so that it could be under their firm control, people using this being their vessels. If any outsider abuses magickal knwoledge they will face disaster if they do not confrom to the enemy and this has been the case for many many people. Don't treat Frabato
like he was some kind of 'God'. A being like Satan can twist such persons without their knowledge. Also the wealth of information is far more vast than what the enemy ET's would want us to have, but I will note here and I don't want to arouse any nerves, that this is literally a beggining of True Magickal Knowledge. One is not a God by knowing fully Frabato's writtings, its a level. There are things past these, which are directly given to Satan's people from Satan Himself. These are the Tools to be Mastered. From there on one needs Divine Guidance from Satan and can become a great God, by learning HOW to use these gifts.

This is all very complex; just know that Initiation into Hermetics is information from Satan that is magickal knowledge. Read this book through Satanic eyes, take the three-fold karmic bullshit out. Connect the dots with the JoS, practice endlessly and you will already be so many steps ahead...That it will be hard to grasp. When all this is mastered, you can create and get guided to the information to get EVEN higher. Remember there is no limit. As for what I wrote, try to understand it through your Satanic instict, not only logic because only logic will fail to answer fully. Use both your Satanic understanding emotional and logical.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "Draco Majinn" <xxrygelxx@ wrote:

I can not help but feel a tremendous amount of gratitude and respect towards Franz Bardon. I have heard he was with the enemy though, hence certain suspicious teachings in his writings.

Although he was at least honest enough of a Mage to admit magick can be used for destructive as well as creative purposes although he disaproved of the black arts himself. This is more than can be said for Wicca and many other occultists who will deliberately mislead people just to reinforce their own subjective values.

Was he deliberately working with the enemy or being misled?

I am confused at how someone as skilled as him could be decieved like that. Just reading his work he sounds like he was almost super human.
But at the same time I have to say, I can't see why anyone with ill intentions towards humanity would make such an effort to get knolwegde out there like he did, especially at a time and in a country where he could of faced persecution for doing so.

So basically my question is was he anti gentile and working with the enemy purposefully or was he benevolent at heart but being decieved like many of our people out there?

Thanks in advance for answers.

Hail Satan!