Finally told my family.

[Anonymous]

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[kurenaii60]

There's no slander in the words "Satan" or Demons. Satan means TRUTH in sanskrit and D(a)emon means GUARDIAN in greek. Those names are positive by their nature.

Just because the enemy gave false descriptions of the Gods/Demons and slandered them with lies doesn't mean that their NAMES are slanderous. So what, if the xians turned associated Enki with a pitchforked horned monster you wouldn't use it huh?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[kurenaii60]

Its actually the opposite of what you said. By calling Them Demons and our religion Satanism and associating positive things we actually UNSLANDER Them and remove all the negative lies the enemy says.

If you call Him Enki and deny His associaltion with the name Satan that means you still allow xians and reverse xians to spread their lies that Satan is "evil" and his followers sacrifice children and all that crap.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kurenaii60" <kurenaii60@... wrote:

There's no slander in the words "Satan" or Demons. Satan means TRUTH in sanskrit and D(a)emon means GUARDIAN in greek. Those names are positive by their nature.

Just because the enemy gave false descriptions of the Gods/Demons and slandered them with lies doesn't mean that their NAMES are slanderous. So what, if the xians turned associated Enki with a pitchforked horned monster you wouldn't use it huh?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@ wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[kurenaii60]

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... aemon.html
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... skrit.html
http://www.666blacksun.com/Satanism_Eastern_Origins.htm

Read those sites for why we call Satan Satan and the D(a)emons D(a)emons. Remember that the enemy has nothing of their own. All of their names they use they are stolen from ancient religions, specifically Sanskrit. Most of the names we know like Satan, Astaroth and others are Sanskrit in origin and have a positive meaning.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kurenaii60" <kurenaii60@... wrote:

Its actually the opposite of what you said. By calling Them Demons and our religion Satanism and associating positive things we actually UNSLANDER Them and remove all the negative lies the enemy says.

If you call Him Enki and deny His associaltion with the name Satan that means you still allow xians and reverse xians to spread their lies that Satan is "evil" and his followers sacrifice children and all that crap.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "kurenaii60" <kurenaii60@ wrote:

There's no slander in the words "Satan" or Demons. Satan means TRUTH in sanskrit and D(a)emon means GUARDIAN in greek. Those names are positive by their nature.

Just because the enemy gave false descriptions of the Gods/Demons and slandered them with lies doesn't mean that their NAMES are slanderous. So what, if the xians turned associated Enki with a pitchforked horned monster you wouldn't use it huh?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@ wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[Krzysiek]

Hello.   I got that feeling at first, after 2 or 3 days of my dedication to just run out of the house and scream like crazy "yay i'm a satanist huray" on the street lol.   As for me, i told my father one day,  it was like.."hey dad"..."yeah?"..." guess what i'm a satanists"..."oh, ok" then he opened the fridge and begin to eat sausages. I didn't told my mother, and i think i won't tell her. She will figure it out on her own soon, she already know i'm not xian , that's for sure lmao. That way is better, i think, since i know her good, and i know she would react emotional to that fact and even got depressed, if i will tell her too quick. I do not expect any1 to accept my choice at all, in truth i don't give a shit.   As for the "Satanism" and calling Lord Enki "Satan" try to remember that Satan is a hebrew word meaning adversary, so it is enemy of the jews, if kikes made most powerful being in the universe their own enemy that is their problem which makes me laugh very often. Satanism (spiritual) is a term used to let ppl know that the entity which they are taking as an evil being is actually good, i won't call it paganism, i will call it Spiritual Satanism, and i will do it with pride. The same goes for "Demons" - but this term can be also used just to not mix them with angels, thought they are from the same race but those called angels want to destroy us and those who we  call demons are the good guys lol. Also i think everyone got his own word for it , and it is ok imho, as long as it is not blasphemous to Enki. I prefer to use word EnKi because it makes me feel proud "King of the Earth" .    Now, i don't hide anything , i just don't scream about it arround, if some1 will ask me about it , then i will tell him/her without blink, even if that will be my mother.   Please do not tell others do reveal it, some ppl might get hurt because of it (i.e. an ex-muslim in muslim community and such) <- i don't think in that example it would help that guy at all..., and i think it is better to let ppl to act according to their own nature, if someone feels better talking about it with family then he will act like you, and if some1 feels better when he/she stays quiet about it , then why force yourself to talk ? " I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature.."   About the explaining stuff i suggest to be careful here and do not force anything, that's xian way of doing things, if someone doesn't want to hear anything , then just leave it... what? you want to torture that person?Just be yourself and act normally , do your stuff (meditations etc) and maybe that person will got interested with passed time, and will begin to ask questions. If this happen you should be prepared i think , and already got something of use from here http://www.exposingchristianity.com/   here http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... IONAL.html  http://www.freewebs.com/eridu666/Origins.html ... and idk what else search maybe on your own ;P www.joyofsatan.org  .  

----- Original Message ----- From: Anonymous To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:14 AM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Finally told my family.
  I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand." . I tell her "You do not want to understand." , seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand." . She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand." .

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[Lionel P]

I told my mother too. I fought a spiritual battle with my entire family, they lost to my superior power thanks to the meditation on this website (and on top of that I have a very powerful will).

After I had broken the Christian spell, I started making them think and pointing out all the loose ends and contradictions of the Christian dogma. Nowadays my mother is Pagan, one of her main symbols is the Sun, she still has a crucifix here and there, she said symbols are separate from religion. I told her she was right, but the cross she was using is nothing more than a torture device used by the romans, and that the real pagan sun cross is the equal armed one. She just nods, (she knows im right and shes wrong, but family traditions are hard to overcome).

At any rate, my brother is Atheistic after I got through to him, my dad is still a useless Jew worshiper (I tried but hes a lost cause), and my mother is an anti-stupid Christian, anti-church, anti-bible pagan neo-catholic.. pagan. It's odd, but shes definitely no Christian or even the sub-cult of Christianity Catholicism. She believes in Aztec gods and what not.

It is, what it is. A spiritual fight to liberate those of your family who are not "beyond repair". You must persevere and in time, you will succeed.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[cosmin]

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

My mom will kill me if i'l tell her,:-< she will never understand.And is hard 4 me to do rituals
i'm felling traped every day whit those stupid xians,and theyr horrible religion.
Good luck and HAIL SATAN

 

[Crypsis]

Well, I didn't really tell my family. My friend (we dedicated the same night) told my brother, and my brother told my parents. My parents are very very christian...so they did not take it lightly when they heard that I was a "Satanist." They were ready to throw me out of the house. The only way I managed to stay was to ask Jesus back into my heart. (I only did this so I would not be on the streets today) My parents fell for it.

This is just a heads-up for anyone else living in a christian home.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[Anonymous]

Of course I wouldn't "force" her, or anyone. I would just like her to see the truth. Without forcing. To make her understand that Satanism/Paganism is exactly the thing she has taught me when I was a kid. She taught me, and got me interested, in meditation and spiritual elevation, reincarnation, etc. in the first place. But she is "emotionally tied" with the filthy christianity. She's been a christian since birth.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Krzysiek" <kgrzedziel@... wrote:

Hello.

I got that feeling at first, after 2 or 3 days of my dedication to just run out of the house and scream like crazy "yay i'm a satanist huray" on the street lol.

As for me, i told my father one day, it was like.."hey dad"..."yeah?"..." guess what i'm a satanists"..."oh, ok" then he opened the fridge and begin to eat sausages. I didn't told my mother, and i think i won't tell her. She will figure it out on her own soon, she already know i'm not xian , that's for sure lmao. That way is better, i think, since i know her good, and i know she would react emotional to that fact and even got depressed, if i will tell her too quick. I do not expect any1 to accept my choice at all, in truth i don't give a shit.

As for the "Satanism" and calling Lord Enki "Satan" try to remember that Satan is a hebrew word meaning adversary, so it is enemy of the jews, if kikes made most powerful being in the universe their own enemy that is their problem which makes me laugh very often. Satanism (spiritual) is a term used to let ppl know that the entity which they are taking as an evil being is actually good, i won't call it paganism, i will call it Spiritual Satanism, and i will do it with pride. The same goes for "Demons" - but this term can be also used just to not mix them with angels, thought they are from the same race but those called angels want to destroy us and those who we call demons are the good guys lol. Also i think everyone got his own word for it , and it is ok imho, as long as it is not blasphemous to Enki. I prefer to use word EnKi because it makes me feel proud "King of the Earth" .

Now, i don't hide anything , i just don't scream about it arround, if some1 will ask me about it , then i will tell him/her without blink, even if that will be my mother.

Please do not tell others do reveal it, some ppl might get hurt because of it (i.e. an ex-muslim in muslim community and such) <- i don't think in that example it would help that guy at all..., and i think it is better to let ppl to act according to their own nature, if someone feels better talking about it with family then he will act like you, and if some1 feels better when he/she stays quiet about it , then why force yourself to talk ? " I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature.."

About the explaining stuff i suggest to be careful here and do not force anything, that's xian way of doing things, if someone doesn't want to hear anything , then just leave it... what? you want to torture that person?Just be yourself and act normally , do your stuff (meditations etc) and maybe that person will got interested with passed time, and will begin to ask questions. If this happen you should be prepared i think , and already got something of use from here http://www.exposingchristianity.com/ here http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... IONAL.html http://www.freewebs.com/eridu666/Origins.html ... and idk what else search maybe on your own ;P www.joyofsatan.org .

----- Original Message -----
From: Anonymous
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:14 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Finally told my family.



I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[[email protected]]

Thank you for sharing your story, you showed great courage and strength being so young and revealing your truth to your family.
As for me and my "coming out" tale,
I've always been the black sheep of the family, my parents were never heavily into christianity, the only person I had problems with as a child was my Grandmother who would insist upon praying for me, while right in front of me, even at age six it made me feel disgustingly ill.
I had a childhood riddled with countless experiences, the only things I had a problem with were nightmares, which I eventually stood up against, and now I just laugh when I have them.
My mother never said anything when "strange" literature started to pop up around my room and the house when I forgot to put them away, she never batted an eyelid.
So it got to the point when I asked her, recently in fact, "Mum, why did you never worry or ask about the things I read or the things I say and do?" she replied that she trusted my judgment and that she knows that I'm not a stupid/silly girl, and that I'm going to do what I feel is right for me. So I pushed a little further and said "You do realize I'm a Satanist..right?" And again, she pleasantly surprise me by saying "Well, that does explain a lot... But I can't say I'm surprised, living with my family..even I've contemplated Satanism."

I've been really blessed with the freedom I've had to explore and develop on my own, and with such an understanding mother (Thanks to Father.) I know it's hard for a lot of people to tell their families the truth, and I know most of us will come against confusion and misunderstandings, but each of us has our own hurdles to face (mine are internal), If we stick with our hearts and follow the truth we can over come anything, from family prejudice to societal pressures. As long as we learn something along the way, we'll be fine and whatever can't kill us will only make us stronger.

As for using 'Satan' or 'Enki' or 'Demons' as names, I know what those names mean to me and no matter what negative thoughts outside people have associated with these names, It's got nothing to do with me and my beliefs.
Hail!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[jeffrey mwango]

<td val[/IMG]Hi,evryone,
my name is Jeff,32,live and work in Nairobi Kenya.I have had interest in satanism for a while now,the problem is i dont have somebody to guide me through the path of dedication,please assist,my number is 0729147781,awaiting.

--- On Sun, 2/28/10, Anonymous <todiwan@... wrote:

From: Anonymous <todiwan@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Finally told my family.
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:54 PM

  Of course I wouldn't "force" her, or anyone. I would just like her to see the truth. Without forcing. To make her understand that Satanism/Paganism is exactly the thing she has taught me when I was a kid. She taught me, and got me interested, in meditation and spiritual elevation, reincarnation, etc. in the first place. But she is "emotionally tied" with the filthy christianity. She's been a christian since birth.

--- [/IMG]JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "Krzysiek" <kgrzedziel@ ... wrote:

Hello.

I got that feeling at first, after 2 or 3 days of my dedication to just run out of the house and scream like crazy "yay i'm a satanist huray" on the street lol.

As for me, i told my father one day, it was like.."hey dad"..."yeah? "..." guess what i'm a satanists".. ."oh, ok" then he opened the fridge and begin to eat sausages. I didn't told my mother, and i think i won't tell her. She will figure it out on her own soon, she already know i'm not xian , that's for sure lmao. That way is better, i think, since i know her good, and i know she would react emotional to that fact and even got depressed, if i will tell her too quick. I do not expect any1 to accept my choice at all, in truth i don't give a shit.

As for the "Satanism" and calling Lord Enki "Satan" try to remember that Satan is a hebrew word meaning adversary, so it is enemy of the jews, if kikes made most powerful being in the universe their own enemy that is their problem which makes me laugh very often. Satanism (spiritual) is a term used to let ppl know that the entity which they are taking as an evil being is actually good, i won't call it paganism, i will call it Spiritual Satanism, and i will do it with pride. The same goes for "Demons" - but this term can be also used just to not mix them with angels, thought they are from the same race but those called angels want to destroy us and those who we call demons are the good guys lol. Also i think everyone got his own word for it , and it is ok imho, as long as it is not blasphemous to Enki. I prefer to use word EnKi because it makes me feel proud "King of the Earth" .

Now, i don't hide anything , i just don't scream about it arround, if some1 will ask me about it , then i will tell him/her without blink, even if that will be my mother.

Please do not tell others do reveal it, some ppl might get hurt because of it (i.e. an ex-muslim in muslim community and such) <- i don't think in that example it would help that guy at all..., and i think it is better to let ppl to act according to their own nature, if someone feels better talking about it with family then he will act like you, and if some1 feels better when he/she stays quiet about it , then why force yourself to talk ? " I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature.."

About the explaining stuff i suggest to be careful here and do not force anything, that's xian way of doing things, if someone doesn't want to hear anything , then just leave it... what? you want to torture that person?Just be yourself and act normally , do your stuff (meditations etc) and maybe that person will got interested with passed time, and will begin to ask questions. If this happen you should be prepared i think , and already got something of use from here http://www.exposing christianity. com/ here http://www.angelfir e.com/empire/ serpentis666/ TRADITIONAL. html http://www.freewebs .com/eridu666/ Origins.html ... and idk what else search maybe on your own ;P www.joyofsatan. org .

----- Original Message -----
From: Anonymous
To: <a rel="nofollow">JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:14 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Finally told my family.



I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand." . I tell her "You do not want to understand." , seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand." . She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand." .

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

[/TD]

 

[siguard666]

www.joyofsatan.org

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... TANIC.html

READ it carefully and you will spare yourself many questions that newbies ask.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!
DEATH TO XIANITY, ISLAM, WICCA AND THE KIKE!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], jeffrey mwango <jeffa50@... wrote:

Hi,evryone,
my name is Jeff,32,live and work in Nairobi Kenya.I have had interest in satanism for a while now,the problem is i dont have somebody to guide me through the path of dedication,please assist,my number is 0729147781,awaiting.

 

[Cam Kuzik]

Reminds me of when I told my mother I was abandoning Christianity.
I never said I was a Satanist, I merely told her that Christianity wasn't giving me enough answers. "Mother, I have a strong desire to seek a spiritual path". She replied, "I hope you do."."The pastor would never allow it, you do know this, mother?"."I do."
All she knows is that I have developed a 'theory' that there is more than one god.
From: Krzysiek <kgrzedziel@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 12:53:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Finally told my family.

  Hello.   I got that feeling at first, after 2 or 3 days of my dedication to just run out of the house and scream like crazy "yay i'm a satanist huray" on the street lol.   As for me, i told my father one day,  it was like.."hey dad"..."yeah? "..." guess what i'm a satanists".. ."oh, ok" then he opened the fridge and begin to eat sausages. I didn't told my mother, and i think i won't tell her. She will figure it out on her own soon, she already know i'm not xian , that's for sure lmao. That way is better, i think, since i know her good, and i know she would react emotional to that fact and even got depressed, if i will tell her too quick. I do not expect any1 to accept my choice at all, in truth i don't give a shit.   As for the "Satanism" and calling Lord Enki "Satan" try to remember that Satan is a hebrew word meaning adversary, so it is enemy of the jews, if kikes made most powerful being in the universe their own enemy that is their problem which makes me laugh very often. Satanism (spiritual) is a term used to let ppl know that the entity which they are taking as an evil being is actually good, i won't call it paganism, i will call it Spiritual Satanism, and i will do it with pride. The same goes for "Demons" - but this term can be also used just to not mix them with angels, thought they are from the same race but those called angels want to destroy us and those who we  call demons are the good guys lol. Also i think everyone got his own word for it , and it is ok imho, as long as it is not blasphemous to Enki. I prefer to use word EnKi because it makes me feel proud "King of the Earth" .    Now, i don't hide anything , i just don't scream about it arround, if some1 will ask me about it , then i will tell him/her without blink, even if that will be my mother.   Please do not tell others do reveal it, some ppl might get hurt because of it (i.e. an ex-muslim in muslim community and such) <- i don't think in that example it would help that guy at all..., and i think it is better to let ppl to act according to their own nature, if someone feels better talking about it with family then he will act like you, and if some1 feels better when he/she stays quiet about it , then why force yourself to talk ? " I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature.."   About the explaining stuff i suggest to be careful here and do not force anything, that's xian way of doing things, if someone doesn't want to hear anything , then just leave it... what? you want to torture that person?Just be yourself and act normally , do your stuff (meditations etc) and maybe that person will got interested with passed time, and will begin to ask questions. If this happen you should be prepared i think , and already got something of use from here http://www.exposing christianity. com/   here http://www.angelfir e.com/empire/ serpentis666/ TRADITIONAL. html  http://www.freewebs .com/eridu666/ Origins.html ... and idk what else search maybe on your own ;P www.joyofsatan. org  .  

----- Original Message ----- From: Anonymous To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:14 AM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Finally told my family.
  I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand." . I tell her "You do not want to understand." , seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand." . She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand." .

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

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[Anonymous]

The funny thing is, my mother was always into meditation and spiritual elevation. She is only afraid to accept the fact that this is the truth - And christianity is false. I think she already knows it, but is afraid to admit it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "little.dias@..." <little.dias@... wrote:

Thank you for sharing your story, you showed great courage and strength being so young and revealing your truth to your family.
As for me and my "coming out" tale,
I've always been the black sheep of the family, my parents were never heavily into christianity, the only person I had problems with as a child was my Grandmother who would insist upon praying for me, while right in front of me, even at age six it made me feel disgustingly ill.
I had a childhood riddled with countless experiences, the only things I had a problem with were nightmares, which I eventually stood up against, and now I just laugh when I have them.
My mother never said anything when "strange" literature started to pop up around my room and the house when I forgot to put them away, she never batted an eyelid.
So it got to the point when I asked her, recently in fact, "Mum, why did you never worry or ask about the things I read or the things I say and do?" she replied that she trusted my judgment and that she knows that I'm not a stupid/silly girl, and that I'm going to do what I feel is right for me. So I pushed a little further and said "You do realize I'm a Satanist..right?" And again, she pleasantly surprise me by saying "Well, that does explain a lot... But I can't say I'm surprised, living with my family..even I've contemplated Satanism."

I've been really blessed with the freedom I've had to explore and develop on my own, and with such an understanding mother (Thanks to Father.) I know it's hard for a lot of people to tell their families the truth, and I know most of us will come against confusion and misunderstandings, but each of us has our own hurdles to face (mine are internal), If we stick with our hearts and follow the truth we can over come anything, from family prejudice to societal pressures. As long as we learn something along the way, we'll be fine and whatever can't kill us will only make us stronger.

As for using 'Satan' or 'Enki' or 'Demons' as names, I know what those names mean to me and no matter what negative thoughts outside people have associated with these names, It's got nothing to do with me and my beliefs.
Hail!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@ wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[kurenaii60]

I would also like to add, PLEASE refrain from posting any personal info like phone numbers. Trust me, there are lots of infiltrators and lurkers here and you don't want the wrong person to know that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "siguard666" <siguard666@... wrote:

www.joyofsatan.org

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... TANIC.html

READ it carefully and you will spare yourself many questions that newbies ask.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!
DEATH TO XIANITY, ISLAM, WICCA AND THE KIKE!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], jeffrey mwango <jeffa50@ wrote:

Hi,evryone,
my name is Jeff,32,live and work in Nairobi Kenya.I have had interest in satanism for a while now,the problem is i dont have somebody to guide me through the path of dedication,please assist,my number is 0729147781,awaiting.

 

[Anonymous]

And now she keeps asking me "Why do I call them Gods when christianity is the same, except that they are called saints. (Which is half-truth, christian scum stole our Gods' attributes and celebration dates and corrupted them for their "saints", for example Dagon and "John the Bapitst".) And she has became much more friendly at the moment. She looks like she's getting it slowly, but is still confused and doesn't understand.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[Matthew Lee]

 http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... TANIC.html   This link will take you step by step through the dedication ritual.  Follow it as close to a T as you can and that's it, your dedicated.   Hail Satan,
Matt  

----- Original Message ----- From: jeffrey mwango To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] how can i be dedicated
 

<td vAl[/IMG]Hi,evryone,
my name is Jeff,32,live and work in Nairobi Kenya.I have had interest in satanism for a while now,the problem is i dont have somebody to guide me through the path of dedication,please assist,my number is 0729147781,awaiting .

--- On Sun, 2/28/10, Anonymous <todiwan@yahoo. co.uk wrote:

From: Anonymous <todiwan@yahoo. co.uk
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Finally told my family.
To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:54 PM

  Of course I wouldn't "force" her, or anyone. I would just like her to see the truth. Without forcing. To make her understand that Satanism/Paganism is exactly the thing she has taught me when I was a kid. She taught me, and got me interested, in meditation and spiritual elevation, reincarnation, etc. in the first place. But she is "emotionally tied" with the filthy christianity. She's been a christian since birth.

--- In <a rel="nofollow" >JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "Krzysiek" <kgrzedziel@ ... wrote:

Hello.

I got that feeling at first, after 2 or 3 days of my dedication to just run out of the house and scream like crazy "yay i'm a satanist huray" on the street lol.

As for me, i told my father one day, it was like.."hey dad"..."yeah? "..." guess what i'm a satanists".. ."oh, ok" then he opened the fridge and begin to eat sausages. I didn't told my mother, and i think i won't tell her. She will figure it out on her own soon, she already know i'm not xian , that's for sure lmao. That way is better, i think, since i know her good, and i know she would react emotional to that fact and even got depressed, if i will tell her too quick. I do not expect any1 to accept my choice at all, in truth i don't give a shit.

As for the "Satanism" and calling Lord Enki "Satan" try to remember that Satan is a hebrew word meaning adversary, so it is enemy of the jews, if kikes made most powerful being in the universe their own enemy that is their problem which makes me laugh very often. Satanism (spiritual) is a term used to let ppl know that the entity which they are taking as an evil being is actually good, i won't call it paganism, i will call it Spiritual Satanism, and i will do it with pride. The same goes for "Demons" - but this term can be also used just to not mix them with angels, thought they are from the same race but those called angels want to destroy us and those who we call demons are the good guys lol. Also i think everyone got his own word for it , and it is ok imho, as long as it is not blasphemous to Enki. I prefer to use word EnKi because it makes me feel proud "King of the Earth" .

Now, i don't hide anything , i just don't scream about it arround, if some1 will ask me about it , then i will tell him/her without blink, even if that will be my mother.

Please do not tell others do reveal it, some ppl might get hurt because of it (i.e. an ex-muslim in muslim community and such) <- i don't think in that example it would help that guy at all..., and i think it is better to let ppl to act according to their own nature, if someone feels better talking about it with family then he will act like you, and if some1 feels better when he/she stays quiet about it , then why force yourself to talk ? " I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature.."

About the explaining stuff i suggest to be careful here and do not force anything, that's xian way of doing things, if someone doesn't want to hear anything , then just leave it... what? you want to torture that person?Just be yourself and act normally , do your stuff (meditations etc) and maybe that person will got interested with passed time, and will begin to ask questions. If this happen you should be prepared i think , and already got something of use from here http://www.exposing christianity. com/ here http://www.angelfir e.com/empire/ serpentis666/ TRADITIONAL. html http://www.freewebs .com/eridu666/ Origins.html ... and idk what else search maybe on your own ;P www.joyofsatan. org .

----- Original Message -----
From: Anonymous
To: <a rel="nofollow" >JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:14 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Finally told my family.



I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand." . I tell her "You do not want to understand." , seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand." . She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand." .

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

[/TD]

 

[chalchiuhnenetzin]

Give her some time. It sounds like she's already light-years ahead of most of them. It IS a huge leap, even after we learn the truth of the matter, and can take a while to actually sink in. Help her all you can, but don't push too hard and don't allow her to discourage you. Keep things quiet and low-key and I think you'll find it works best. A strident approach is off-putting to most. Not that you're doing that, I'm just thinking that if I were her, what would be the best way to handle 'me'.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

The funny thing is, my mother was always into meditation and spiritual elevation. She is only afraid to accept the fact that this is the truth - And christianity is false. I think she already knows it, but is afraid to admit it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "little.dias@" <little.dias@ wrote:

Thank you for sharing your story, you showed great courage and strength being so young and revealing your truth to your family.
As for me and my "coming out" tale,
I've always been the black sheep of the family, my parents were never heavily into christianity, the only person I had problems with as a child was my Grandmother who would insist upon praying for me, while right in front of me, even at age six it made me feel disgustingly ill.
I had a childhood riddled with countless experiences, the only things I had a problem with were nightmares, which I eventually stood up against, and now I just laugh when I have them.
My mother never said anything when "strange" literature started to pop up around my room and the house when I forgot to put them away, she never batted an eyelid.
So it got to the point when I asked her, recently in fact, "Mum, why did you never worry or ask about the things I read or the things I say and do?" she replied that she trusted my judgment and that she knows that I'm not a stupid/silly girl, and that I'm going to do what I feel is right for me. So I pushed a little further and said "You do realize I'm a Satanist..right?" And again, she pleasantly surprise me by saying "Well, that does explain a lot... But I can't say I'm surprised, living with my family..even I've contemplated Satanism."

I've been really blessed with the freedom I've had to explore and develop on my own, and with such an understanding mother (Thanks to Father.) I know it's hard for a lot of people to tell their families the truth, and I know most of us will come against confusion and misunderstandings, but each of us has our own hurdles to face (mine are internal), If we stick with our hearts and follow the truth we can over come anything, from family prejudice to societal pressures. As long as we learn something along the way, we'll be fine and whatever can't kill us will only make us stronger.

As for using 'Satan' or 'Enki' or 'Demons' as names, I know what those names mean to me and no matter what negative thoughts outside people have associated with these names, It's got nothing to do with me and my beliefs.
Hail!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@ wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[Krzysiek]

I was thinking on this for a while, and i don't think Gods are like xian saints. Saints are dead people, Gods are real, you can talk with Them ,touch Then, feel Them etc.   The only similarity is that you turn to saints when you are in trouble, and pray to them. But even this isn't  very similar , because you won't get anything from them. With our Gods is different, and you don't need to "pray" to them (in xian meaning).   Hope this help a little.   The only similarity between Zagan and john the baptist is they're both patrons of farmers. But john , as xians are claiming is also patron over very long list of needs lmao  check this out: " he is patron over blacksmiths, missioners, weavers, tailors, furriers, tanners, vineyards owners, coopers, chimney-sweepers, carpenters, architects, bricklayers, stone-cutters, CINEMA OWNERS ( yeah in those times were already cinemas LOL you see they are adding needs as they see fit) musicians, dancers and more he is also called in attacks of epilepsy , headaches, dizzines, hoarseness and many more. And Zagan can help you when you need wisdom/intellect/knowledge this is something john "can't do"  hehe. There is way too many contradictions between our Zagan and john the clown.   Hail Enki  

----- Original Message -----

From: Anonymous To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:42 AM Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Finally told my family.
  And now she keeps asking me "Why do I call them Gods when christianity is the same, except that they are called saints. (Which is half-truth, christian scum stole our Gods' attributes and celebration dates and corrupted them for their "saints", for example Dagon and "John the Bapitst".) And she has became much more friendly at the moment. She looks like she's getting it slowly, but is still confused and doesn't understand.

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand." . I tell her "You do not want to understand." , seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand." . She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand." .

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[kurenaii60]

Xian saints are the perfect victims, they do nothing but take abuse and turn the other cheek and have blind faith. They are lazy and cowards to take any action and fight against their enemies. Our Demons/Gods are the opposite, they are proud, strong and heroic. They DID NOT take abuse from any kike that tried to control Them in the past and some of Them like Andras kicked their ass.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Krzysiek" <kgrzedziel@... wrote:

I was thinking on this for a while, and i don't think Gods are like xian saints. Saints are dead people, Gods are real, you can talk with Them ,touch Then, feel Them etc.

The only similarity is that you turn to saints when you are in trouble, and pray to them. But even this isn't very similar , because you won't get anything from them. With our Gods is different, and you don't need to "pray" to them (in xian meaning).

Hope this help a little.

The only similarity between Zagan and john the baptist is they're both patrons of farmers. But john , as xians are claiming is also patron over very long list of needs lmao check this out: " he is patron over blacksmiths, missioners, weavers, tailors, furriers, tanners, vineyards owners, coopers, chimney-sweepers, carpenters, architects, bricklayers, stone-cutters, CINEMA OWNERS ( yeah in those times were already cinemas LOL you see they are adding needs as they see fit) musicians, dancers and more he is also called in attacks of epilepsy , headaches, dizzines, hoarseness and many more. And Zagan can help you when you need wisdom/intellect/knowledge this is something john "can't do" hehe. There is way too many contradictions between our Zagan and john the clown.

Hail Enki

----- Original Message -----
From: Anonymous
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:42 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Finally told my family.



And now she keeps asking me "Why do I call them Gods when christianity is the same, except that they are called saints. (Which is half-truth, christian scum stole our Gods' attributes and celebration dates and corrupted them for their "saints", for example Dagon and "John the Bapitst".) And she has became much more friendly at the moment. She looks like she's getting it slowly, but is still confused and doesn't understand.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@ wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[Anti]

You are a Satanist though, Sanskrit name was SATANAMA, broken down this is what is means, Sa=Life, Ta=Truth, Na=Death, Ma=Rebirth. We are not wrong to call Him Satan, because of where the name comes from, besides, both Satan and Lucifer are incorect names for the Father, but He doesn't mind be called the names He's been known as over the centurys.

Demon and Daemon are both perfectly fine terms for the Gods, because they derive from the words Dao and Daio meaning "the Divine"

About coping with scum...I have to deal with my parents shove bible verses down my throat, but when I make a good point, my parents ignorantly shut me out...at this point, I'm done playin nice.

Shut them down and do it swift and to the point.
Study the bible inside and out.
Expose it for how it would be twisted and perverse even if it was taken literally.
Expose the hypocracy of the bible (not the followers..because then they get on that point about how some christians aren't REALLY christians...ect.ect. churches)
Make sure you call their "god" a blood glutton.
Tear their book of lies to shreds (aspectially and actually).

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.

 

[Krzysiek]

I apologize for sending reply to you on the forum , but i was unable to answer you directly at all.   I'm well aware that it is not you who said that, no worries.And i didn't intend it to look like that either. Yeah  for some ppl who were xians for
like more than 30-40 years it's rlly hard to accept what we are saying even
if that got sense in their minds.

 I know how you feel it's same with my mother. Whatever i say she looks at
me with "i got idiot for a son" look in her eyes , and she says "you believe
whatever is written on the interenet" NONE of my arguments are getting close
to her. I showed her once the quote from bible how the so called god kills
ppl and orders jews to kill more , i said "the bible is full of blood of
innocent ppl morder , rape and all other nasties" in response she sits 
quietely, acting like she didn't heard anything, starting to do some other things
as a result of being nervous.

And when i'm showing her another quote from bible about jewsus that he
suggested the men should castrate themselfs to go to heaven (mathew 19:12)
and she says like " nah stop saying stupid things" when i show her anything
else she just ignore me or says that i'm not understanding the bible. And
that i should go to a seminary so they can teach me how i should understand
it <- obviously at this stage i'm saying that it is close to mind control
.Why someone would tell me how i should think? I have my own brain, no? Then she
laughts.

Maybe you got any idea how to get to her Anonymous?? Because i'm begining to think it
is kinda futile... anyone got any ideas? Sometimes she comes and tries to
attack me in passive way , but she got no arguments and no knowledge .She
always loose in argung about bible but she can't accept it. I finally spoke
to her recently while arguing "mom you won't believe in anything , even if that
clown the pope would told you that ".

Hail Enki.

 

[Krzysiek]

I apologize for sending reply to you on the forum , but i was unable to answer you directly at all.   I'm well aware that it is not you who said that, no worries.And i didn't intend it to look like that either. Yeah  for some ppl who were xians for
like more than 30-40 years it's rlly hard to accept what we are saying even
if that got sense in their minds.

 I know how you feel it's same with my mother. Whatever i say she looks at
me with "i got idiot for a son" look in her eyes , and she says "you believe
whatever is written on the interenet" NONE of my arguments are getting close
to her. I showed her once the quote from bible how the so called god kills
ppl and orders jews to kill more , i said "the bible is full of blood of
innocent ppl morder , rape and all other nasties" in response she sits 
quietely, acting like she didn't heard anything, starting to do some other things
as a result of being nervous.

And when i'm showing her another quote from bible about jewsus that he
suggested the men should castrate themselfs to go to heaven (mathew 19:12)
and she says like " nah stop saying stupid things" when i show her anything
else she just ignore me or says that i'm not understanding the bible. And
that i should go to a seminary so they can teach me how i should understand
it <- obviously at this stage i'm saying that it is close to mind control
.Why someone would tell me how i should think? I have my own brain, no? Then she
laughts.

Maybe you got any idea how to get to her Anonymous?? Because i'm begining to think it
is kinda futile... anyone got any ideas? Sometimes she comes and tries to
attack me in passive way , but she got no arguments and no knowledge .She
always loose in argung about bible but she can't accept it. I finally spoke
to her recently while arguing "mom you won't believe in anything , even if that
clown the pope would told you that ".

Hail Enki.

 

[Krzysiek]

lmao sry for double posting , i got the message "cannot send the message"  while sending it .. so i sended second time i got that message again , and here both of them are on forum lol ! sry

 

[Taylor ----------]

My mom found out because my nosey fucking neighbor looked at my myspace.
and of course, it said I was satanic.
So I told my mom yeah I was and she told my dad [naturally], and he said something along the lines of callling me stupid / ignorant without actually saying it.
And he also refused to talk to me for a good amount of time.
Now they deny the fact that it ever happened.
So I really dont care.
They know but they wont say anything or ever bring it up again.


From: Anti <prophetburner@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 2:19:49 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Finally told my family.

You are a Satanist though, Sanskrit name was SATANAMA, broken down this is what is means, Sa=Life, Ta=Truth, Na=Death, Ma=Rebirth. We are not wrong to call Him Satan, because of where the name comes from, besides, both Satan and Lucifer are incorect names for the Father, but He doesn't mind be called the names He's been known as over the centurys.

Demon and Daemon are both perfectly fine terms for the Gods, because they derive from the words Dao and Daio meaning "the Divine"

About coping with scum...I have to deal with my parents shove bible verses down my throat, but when I make a good point, my parents ignorantly shut me out...at this point, I'm done playin nice.

Shut them down and do it swift and to the point.
Study the bible inside and out.
Expose it for how it would be twisted and perverse even if it was taken literally.
Expose the hypocracy of the bible (not the followers..because then they get on that point about how some christians aren't REALLY christians...ect.ect. churches)
Make sure you call their "god" a blood glutton.
Tear their book of lies to shreds (aspectially and actually).

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Anonymous" <todiwan@... wrote:

I live only with my mother. She is a christian. I am 17.

Today, it hit me. Why would I STILL hide that I'm a Pagan? She is not exactly a christian fanatic, but she believes, I thought. And she got me into beliefs about reincarnation, meditation, etc. in the first place.

So... I come to her. My heart going 150 beats per minute. I get extremely nervous/excited. I found Paganism (I will not call it Satanism and I will not call Father Enki "Satan", I don't have any idea why you slander the Gods like that by calling them "Demons". Just call them what they are, GODS.) about two years ago, and dedicated less than a year ago on Beltane.

I start telling her, and I finally, after 10 minutes, get to the point and tell her that I'm not a christian anymore and that I'm a Pagan.

And then she starts talking how she now realizes why I stopped wearing my "crucifix" and why I stopped being so "enthusiastic" about the "christian holidays". Then we start talking about it all, and suddenly, I'm super-surprised when I hear that she's actually "disappointed" (but as I expected, she didn't try to force me back, of course) and starts asking questions, I keep answering. After about two hours of talk (quite uncomfortable but not that bad) she asks me "Do you feel like a fool now that you realize that your Gods are actually the same as 'saints'". I'm like "What the fuck?" and I tell her how the attributes of the Gods were stolen and made "saints" and how christianity is a branch of judaism, a religious program created to destroy Paganism. Then I ask her "Now do you understand?" she says "No, I don't really understand.". I tell her "You do not want to understand.", seeing she's doubting her beliefs, obviously. She's smart and all that's holding her to christianity is our family's traditions, one of which being filthy lie of christianity. And traditions are important to her. Then I just tell her "You just don't want to understand.". She nods and says "Yes. I don't want to understand.".

I just wanted to share it with you guys. I also wanted to ask you how you revealed your allegiance to the Gods to your family, what was their reaction. And I wanted to know how to keep "explaining" it to her, maybe even make her believe. She seems to think that Hindus, Native Americans, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. (all different kinds of Paganism, like us) are the wisest people in the world. Also, today she told me that she believes in reincarnation, and that she developed herself quite a bit, and meditated every day long ago before I was born, but she can't understand how "I could give up my faith/traditions so quickly", and "why can't I spiritually develop myself and meditate while being a christian".

I hope this doesn't discourage anyone to reveal their new path, the path of truth and knowledge. Do it, but don't expect them to agree and respect your choice right away. It will only help you, you won't have to hide anymore.





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My mom was a witch when i was youing then she became xian after the years....and the funny thing to say is that she denies the power of black magic even though she was ther before into witchcraft now that i think about it......i feel sorry for my mom.....but hail luifer....im not giving up for nothing!!
-----Original Message-----
Date: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:30:07 pm
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "Cam Kuzik" <spudkuzik@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Finally told my family.

Reminds me of when I told my mother I was abandoning Christianity.

I never said I was a Satanist, I merely told her that Christianity wasn't giving me enough answers. "Mother, I have a strong desire to seek a spiritual path". She replied, "I hope you do.".
"The pastor would never allow it, you do know this, mother?".
"I do."

All she knows is that I have developed a 'theory' that there is more than one god.



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From: Krzysiek <kgrzedziel@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 12:53:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Finally told my family.


Hello.

I got that feeling at first, after 2 or 3 days of
my dedication to just run out of the house and scream like crazy "yay i'm a
satanist huray" on the street lol.

As for me, i told my father one day, it was
like.."hey dad"..."yeah? "..." guess what i'm a satanists".. ."oh, ok" then he
opened the fridge and begin to eat sausages. I didn't told my mother, and i
think i