Maya
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Shadowcat said:Maya said:Shadowcat said:also wanted to ellaborate here specifically.
i think this is a horrid rebuttal and defense of him. he knows its not acceptable and has let those feelings happen anyway. people who talk like this are looking for justification much of the time to not feel guilty. and jack was giving him just that in his comment which is disgusting. i wonder why you didnt go off on him instead? you dont have to physically touch someone to cheat.
he actyally writes that he doesnt know if this is a good thing or not
Seriously? yet he is married and in a monogomous arragement with someone. If you yourself are actually Zevism you will know better and see through things like this through a decent code of morals opposed to some people who apparenly think things such as this are relative when the Gods themselves teach humans actual ethics, and won't be trying to make excuses for people who stoop to this level. you get on me for "starting shit" and "projecting" but you know what? i'm harder on Zevism because i expect more from them as Gods in the making.
Chillout, I just mentioned what everyone can see, that your way of talking is not polite, and no person deserves this unless it's enemy. I see no reason of you having all this tension.
On the whole comment you only referred to men. This is not polite and doesn't give a good impression to anyone who reads this, especially to non-active people who browse the forums.
If you have something in mind and can't express it fully then don't expect people to understand what you have in mind, but only what you wrote.
You referred to men looking for younger people, that you are 31 and debating to start a Venus square cause of this "fact" and even this shows that you didn't understand what the o.p. was saying and you just needed to steam off somewhere, mentioning your personal experiences and closing with saying that cats are better. Oh, I am not implying anything; whoever can read can perceive this fully.
Now on your first reply to me, you come and clarify and elaborate on what you actually have in mind.
You can't come to a conclusion that most men like younger women, even if this is what you've seen around you. Another person may know only men who like older women. The patterns you say you've seen and experienced are the patterns you attract cause of your chart and/or cause of your mind. Strong minds attract around them what they believe. There are thoughtforms and magic aiming this specifically, cheating one another, so that the two genders hate each other and this way pushes them to everything that destroys unity and development of our sacred race.
"Good", "right", and "acceptable" have different meanings. Between two people all these terms can be different.
Any person who lets his feelings happen for a third person, which is something you make it seem so wrong and unacceptable, can be a result of endless reasons. You cannot know what is happening between a couple, you cannot know what a person is going through, planetary transits, a toxic relationship, feeling unfulfilled etc., and we should not be concerned about that, but only about giving help, so coming here judging and harassing any person without having a clue of their life is just not right.
And no God has the time nor the will to deal with if an Zevism cheated on their partner, except some serious exceptions.
Also, you should know yourself that using phrases like "if you yourself are actually Zevism" is the most offending thing to say to family. I just expressed my thoughts on your comment and you come to doubt me as Zevism.
Calling pseudoethics and mentioning our Gods in everything is a convenient action but it doesn't represent always the reality.
Our Gods have given us free will and the ability to choose freely our own actions, and depending on each person's natal chart and experiences, the morals and ethics of a person on their love life can vary, and this is totally reasonable.
What everyone can see? hilarious, because you are the only one ever on this forum who has decided she has to have a problem with me all of a sudden, much less this specific thread. I have no intentions of having serious issues with anyone here, but Zevism having normal disagreements or even disputes is something also much different than spewing actual hate or wishing ill on them. This is something i have never done to any Zevism so stop blowing shit out of proportion.Chillout, I just mentioned what everyone can see, that your way of talking is not polite, and no person deserves this unless it's enemy. I see no reason of you having all this tension.
ofcourse they do. This is the general rule This in itself is biological. Men like youth because it signifies fertility and beauty. almost no one wants someone used up with stretch marks from having someone elses kids, who is probably overweight with cellulite all overthe place. Get real and grow up kid. I find it hilarious when 20 something brats try to lecture me. notice when i said most, the word most leaves room for exceptions?You can't come to a conclusion that most men like younger women, even if this is what you've seen around you.
With that being said for your misintperperetations of what i did or did not say i cannot be responsible...especially because you decided you had to patronize me and talk down when i did jack shit except for a bit of a lact of tact. again something that was blown out of proportion by you as if i was cursing someone. Do i have to break it down barnie style and spell everything out for you? And no i have not implied that only men cheat. Stop blaming me for your apparent lack of critical thinking with your "ohh now you explain it!"
"Good", "right", and "acceptable" have different meanings. Between two people all these terms can be different.
Any person who lets his feelings happen for a third person, which is something you make it seem so wrong and unacceptable, can be a result of endless reasons. You cannot know what is happening between a couple, you cannot know what a person is going through, planetary transits, a toxic relationship, feeling unfulfilled etc., and we should not be concerned about that, but only about giving help, so coming here judging and harassing any person without having a clue of their life is just not right.
It seems as if you are putting words in my mouth again, or at least misintperpereting by saying i think polygamy is "wrong" and that there fore i have a psudotwisted view of relationship ethics. Again stop assuming shit. There is nothing wrong with loving a 3rd person, sure, but only if the relationsip is mutually polygamous. Here it obviously is not. Notice how i put emphasis on cheating? What if he goes home and tell his wife he wants the relationship to be open and she doesnt want this? do you realize what this could do to her? As meteor said it could be seriously damaging to self esteem as well.
This also again just sounds like making excuses for someone who would cheat. and i mean anyone in general.So have you cheated ever? i wouldnt be suprised.This is the exact kind of shit my ex said to me too. he even tried to use mental illness as an excuse and told me i was being selfish for not understanding. seriously?? if your polygomous thats fine again, but yes the "ethics" for polygamy and monogamy, well the rules rather, are different yes. Again i am not implying they arent and i never have. In a monogamous relationship cheating is cheating and theres no excuse. i am obviously strictly speaking in terms of monogamy.
I look to the Gods as examples because they are the examples we should live up to. It is also specifically said in the incubi succubi ritual if one has a monogamous Demon partner and the human strays the humans partner with whom they cheat can end up dead. They can be understanding as well but it is also to a point. will you patronize and blame the Demon too, like youre patronizing and shaming me me for expecting people to have better self control? I find that to be absolutely pathetic. Again i am speaking for the ethics of monogamy. not for polygamy so no, there is no "psudoethics" here going on. yet another thing you seem to misinterperet. pretty good at that arent you?Calling pseudoethics and mentioning our Gods in everything is a convenient action but it doesn't represent always the reality.
I am basically saying with this that Zevism should be held to higher critical thinking and moral standards. This was also the basic message in my first reply to dragonfire. Again if you are so shitty at critical thinking that you have to take everything out of proportion and misinterperet me it is not my responsibility. I will never direct geniune hate to Zevism and i didnt with dragonfire or you either. Learn that there is a difference between dispute and actual infighting/cursing. It is unrealistic to assume Zevism will almost never have disputes as everyones charts are different and its impossible to like absolutely everyone. you for example probably have several planets in cancer which i actually cant stand in people. Who knows maybe im wrong.Also, you should know yourself that using phrases like "if you yourself are actually Zevism" is the most offending thing to say to family. I just expressed my thoughts on your comment and you come to doubt me as Zevism.
I have never had issues with anyone on this forum and have always been productive here. But keep on trying to make me out in a horrible light and shaming me just becuase you dont like what i am saying. Love the continuous patornizing by the way. There must be a balance between being harsh and not. there are times when people deserve it. if you cannot understand this, then you are probably the type that undeservedly coddles spoiled rotten kids and makes excuses for their bad behavior. which is what you did here. Interesting that my post is cherrypicked this way, when others can very well just look at your post and say you are making excuses for something that isnt right and be put off by that as well.This is not polite and doesn't give a good impression to anyone who reads this, especially to non-active people who browse the forums.
I have never had an issue with you Maya. Weve even been on friendly terms before. So if you all of a sudden decide you have to have a problem with me, then that is your perogative. And remember, youre the one who started on me, when i was calling out on something, that wasnt right. If you can't deal with it too bad. My only mistake was my lack of tact but the message remains the same. If i approached you the same way you did to me at first dont tell me you wouldn't react.
This is also something i have literally never mentioned nor implied. Im starting to wonder if english is even your first language. If it is, im going to facepalm.And no God has the time nor the will to deal with if an Zevism cheated on their partner, except some serious exceptions.
So you felt so butthurt that somebody dared to "lecture" you, that you need to try to assume personal details about me to try to use them against me and feel better about yourself?
For a 31 year-old, who thinks she's so superior to "20-something brats", yet can't take a respectful piece of criticism, you are more insecure than I thought.
But if it helps you sleep at night, you can assume whatever about me. I'll just let your mind blow with it. I don't need to verify anything personal about myself in order to make my point clear.
I just called you out on your unnecessary arrogance towards the o.p., before you apologized about it. Sure, I was the only one who called you out on it, but it doesn't take anybody else pointing that out in order for everyone to see that you were on the wrong. And now you repeat the same kind of arrogance towards me, looking for ways to insult me at every single paragraph, when I did none of that in my previous replies. Call it whatever you want, but that's just anger disguised as a "dispute".
You wonder if English is my first language? I'll let you know that I can clearly write better than you. I won't even get started counting your several spelling and punctuation mistakes. Not to mention that you were the one who misinterpreted what the o.p. said and assumed he was going after a 18 y.o. woman, while missing his actual question, which was "should I cut ties with her but still keep as friends?". Not: "should I go for it?"
So yeah, you better shut up about my English and interpretation skills.
As for the moral part, I wasn't talking about monogamy vs polygamy. I meant that the o.p. shouldn't be blamed for simply being excited for another woman. He simply asked a question about it. This doesn't have to imply that he will cheat or wants to cheat, especially when he himself says he had been avoiding her. He knows it is wrong. He doesn't need anything toxic thrown at him for simply asking a question.
And even if he wanted to be with said woman, there are ways to go around his current situation without cheating. What he can't do is repress his honest desires. But yet, we all agree he needs to be responsible about his relationship and evaluate his feelings realistically. That's all I'm gonna say.
Now dance all you want cause I ain't gonna continue this beef.