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Demotion Of Clergy - New Rules

When has HP Cobra ever told anyone to not think for themselves?

Here is something important to comprehend: The Gods as stated to me give people free will. I am quite fond of Shannon and many of her posts are very, very useful, informative and knowledgeable, but when given the High Priest title, she had certain accomplishments and hence was given a certain leverage to act within the confines of her own nature.

As HPS Pythia explained before, the Gods do give some tests, yes, even HPs have these. If you put things off at the last hurdle because of a relationship or real life issues, then it's really failing the assessment and that's just how it is. The Gods can advise you to do otherwise, but you still have a choice in this.

Spiritual Zevists who have not deprogrammed from xianity/islam/whatever need to understand our Gods are not tyrants and give people a large allowance of following their own nature as they treasure free will more than anything. Regardless, this is kind of a dumb waste of responsibility and in most cases you really need to override those issues to get things done, especially in war conditions.

It would've been better to go the HPS Myla route and say 'nope I can't do it'.

It is better not to gloat here. If Shannon found this job really difficult, trolls and people who start arguments for the silliest reasons 24/7 are going to have it knock them off their ass.
 
DINDU MUFFIN is the one who been going into the T 4S forums. Is the infiltrator. Otherwise how would I know. Sure I'm over there because at least my posts aren't being censored. I'm not even spewing enemy garbage so I made my point of how ridiculous this is. GROW UP.

Hypocritical idiot going on the forums then come here and flip flop back and forth I'm starting to think that you really are Cobra's golem posting that porno shit. Boo hoo you been found out.
 
Peace out guys. Good luck. I'm staying in the background and I choose to not to engage in these forums anymore because of course my point has already been proven over what at first seemed sensible and then just flat out attack me . Thank you for confirming the truth about yourself. I was giving you benefit of doubt after you hoped I'd explain then turn around act like a crazy person. I guess they are right about some stuff.;I don't care if you ban me. :lol:

I'm staying away from ToZ forums and ** ... I'm quietly observing.

Anyway. See ya!
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
This is like you are the worst of the worst and you go to random people to the street and you tell them "you ain't marryin me honey, you ain't marryin me, shieeeeet" while you are tweaking thinking you are Taylor Swift.

This one killed me :lol:
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Thanks for revealing you are just an attention whoring wanna be and infiltrator who is a completely lost basket case
What the Hell... The very first post in this topic is as unambiguous as it can be. I guess HP HC just destroyed muh hopes and chances of oy-vey beings. Is this what this ridiculous masquerade is all about? :lol:
 
Manofsatan said:
Shemsu said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Not sure why all of you infiltrators think you are so valuable that anyone seeks to "enslave" you.

Not even yehuborim would be that much interested in "enslaving" you. The ToZ or anyone certainly isn't.

This is like you are the worst of the worst and you go to random people to the street and you tell them "you ain't marryin me honey, you ain't marryin me, shieeeeet" while you are tweaking thinking you are Taylor Swift.

There's so much good here that it honestly saddens me to see our energy being wasted on these [insert whatever name you see fit]. Aren't we supposed to not feed the trolls? I understand that sometimes it needs to be said out loud but for fucks sake these creatures are really becoming a nuisance and maybe if we just focused on what matters they'll be starved to death or go away or something. Maybe even some accidents could happen to the persistent ones, who knows?
I salute the emphasis on seriousness and diligence, the situation we're all in is more than serious, so... Hope that things fall into place sooner than later.

Oh shemsu, you have a misconception.
Everything Is already set in place..
No one is feeding the trolls also. These are necessary for guidance.

Sometimes it feels so good to be wrong. Weakness transpired once more through my thoughts. That was very comforting to read. Gracias.
 
I am not clergy obviously! Not even close to it. This is something each an individual has to work for. And it is entirely up to you or who-ever to decide
Whether you want to earn that, one must have a mindset on that, and show their passion and their gratitude in that. They have to be pretty educated as it is on some high level. And know exactly what they're doing! And take their time looking things up and doing research!? And have the time and the patience to put things in order! And professionally!? How to introduce the topic or the subject! Whatever it is that they're learning and wish to teach? And taking the gratitude! Not only to write about it but also to have somewhat of a website on it!? And have enough information on it as well as the websites and the links to whatever it is that they're into and studying and reading that has to do with Father Zeus and his gods and demons. And if it is about health? Kundalini breathing and yoga and exercise of the mind and body of any kind? To have some kind of a degree on that where they had actually taken a class? Or took a college course on it or something? Or was a teacher or a help aid in a yoga class? 🧘‍♂️ and has the background experience as a teacher! And that of the student who's been to college! And has some kind of a background experience! Of some kind working with people and traveling about! Whether you're an individual? doing this on your own ...or whether or not you're with a group of people? or a class!. And having the money to be able to come up with the website! And to be able to help out with some programs by paying tribute! Making connections and knowing people that are likewise to who and what we are! Who show a passion! In their interest and their work! And who and what they are as a people! And a Zevist on here as well. And these people should know what they're doing at all times! And know how to handle others and random individuals who need help and need the extra time! To work with somebody? And taking the time to be patient showing that you care and showing that you're interested in helping somebody!? Or helping yourself? Improve by doing your own thing! And being honest about it and taking the time to look things up and show people that you're smart and what you know? And whether or not you're interested in teaching and sharing your knowledge and what you have learned? To work together as a team and it doesn't matter what level you're at and where you're at? As long as you know enough and show your interest in the group! And show your gratitude and the knowledge that is being taught. And how serious you are? About the subject and what it's about! And how you go about it? As a teacher or a student? Showing your interest in being a clergy! And having the proper qualifications!. And what others think of you? And how you affect others on here as well. And usually a clergy member will let you know that you qualify.? 😉 it's like ... running for office and sort of like running for president. Kind of? But not thar dramatic. Especially for those of you who remember being in high school or college running a skit.. ? And getting voted in..? Or a group pull on who is bold enough and brave enough to take on the roll as a cleargy and who fits that 🤔 position. And with the time and energy. And to take the effort and the time! To keep themselves brushed up on their education. The grammor.. such as myself... :shock: YES!!! And be honest with yourself and admit that you have a problem and do something about it.. showing the character and taking the time to improve themselves as well. As well as getting out there and showing what you've got! And what you can do? And what you can't do? You will gradually learn and figure out on your own terms. And whether or not you qualify? It still shows that you have big shoes to fill, and a lot to learn yet! And if the gods approve of you being a part of the clergy? You would be recognized for your skills and your passion for that position. Correct me..? If I'm wrong... I just know that it takes somebody that's a little more than novice to be a clergy
 
Mageson a while back around just before he got dismissed and banned.

Was mass-wave banning people. My original account "Blitzkrieg"(sorry to [ToZ-G]Blitzkreig for taking it). Is it possible to delete my previous account and rename Blitzkreig to Blitzkrieg?

So he doesn't need to transpose the e and i.
 
TruthAgainstTheWorld said:
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MY LOYALTY IS TO THE GODS, Zeus. With or without ToZ or any damn clergy!

How had you been a long member on the ToZ when, after you, based on your claim, you got enough experience and discerning abilities to see the lies that for thousands of years have been pushed by Xian programs in the world, yet you still come up with this post.

Father Zeus and his Gods give us free will and, regardless of your fake statement that there is a supposed blind worship or something, there are no mediators in Zevism but HP Zevios Metathronos stands as our spiritual and physical guide.

Physical: He is here on the forums in most of his time and helps a lot of people

Spiritual: He provides us with the Rituals and he also provides us with the 40-day Mediation Program of Inanna.

So, basically, what is your proof or raionale behind the answer that you have given?

Given the fact that you were a long term member of the ToZ and even spoke to Pythia personally (proof?), I think you will be able to understand that:

1. There is no such thing as blind worshipping on the ToZ. Even the word "worship" is aggressive in it's phonetic nature and reflects more of a Xian view of things.

2. There is free will here on the path of Zevism. You just need to know that we work together as a whole and some of us may sound harsh when saying some opinion, but, in the end, it is for the good of the community.

3. Free thinking is more practiced than stated here. We do not behave like Xian christards that are forced to stop logical and analytical thinking because a pope or a Yehubor site leader tells them that they "are going to burn" because of thinking analytically and logically.

With this being said, I hope you understood that besides something that is slanderous to the Zevist community, first, you haven't done anything better.
 
Hello, I have a question.
I'm a atheist who is starting to lean towards Zevism- kind of? I'm still very skeptical but I'm VERY open to it, and wishing for it to be real.

I'm only able to log in here on my school chromebook- and basically the yahoo chats are blocked. So I have to ask my questions here.

And some of the articals are blocked because of this exact reason
"alternative spirituality/beliefs"
IM IN PUBLIC SCHOOL WHAT

Okay okay, so here are the questions-

First, does Zeus actually care about me? Like, no matter my flaws? Kids in my class tell me I'll go to hell for being LGBT+
Or like that they'd hurt me for being LGBT+

Second, will the people who hurt me and my friends be punished?
Like my friends rapist, or the person that tried to trick me and my friends into offing ourselves;

Third, do people who believe in other things get punished, because that thought scares me alot, especially because in the rules it said "no sympathy"
 
HP Cobra brother should do whatever is necessary for the survival of the ToZ,
if it is only him who remains in leadership and control positions so mote it be.
The enemy wants us gone and so will the big chance of humanity, there is no place like this here atm.
My life changed so much for the better and others as well.
Loose ends and holes should be filled,
military thinking and leadership is necessary because we are in a war and the ToZ is humanity's defence.
It is also important for going forward to next major steps, a strong hand is needed, nothing personal/emotional.
It is a lot to do for one person, but we believe in him and we are here for him as well.
He can ask the gods as well whom to trust.
Since the day i joined two years ago or something,
i have only seen him as Clergy showing presence, so many posts/topics who help people etc.
I can only imagine how much he does alone as HP/Clergy behind the scenes.
Go Cobra go! The enemy cries in your presence!
 
Manofsatan said:
Shemsu said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Not sure why all of you infiltrators think you are so valuable that anyone seeks to "enslave" you.

Not even yehuborim would be that much interested in "enslaving" you. The ToZ or anyone certainly isn't.

This is like you are the worst of the worst and you go to random people to the street and you tell them "you ain't marryin me honey, you ain't marryin me, shieeeeet" while you are tweaking thinking you are Taylor Swift.

There's so much good here that it honestly saddens me to see our energy being wasted on these [insert whatever name you see fit]. Aren't we supposed to not feed the trolls? I understand that sometimes it needs to be said out loud but for fucks sake these creatures are really becoming a nuisance and maybe if we just focused on what matters they'll be starved to death or go away or something. Maybe even some accidents could happen to the persistent ones, who knows?
I salute the emphasis on seriousness and diligence, the situation we're all in is more than serious, so... Hope that things fall into place sooner than later.

Oh shemsu, you have a misconception.
Everything Is already set in place..
No one is feeding the trolls also. These are necessary for guidance.

Zevism only reply to this for new members' sakes, so they don't get their raw minds influenced by half baked opinions. It's astounding to see how people think they can't be free if they have a leader. On the contrary, following a leader (with reason) is giving you the freedom of knowing what may be better and doing what's good.
 
Thank you HP Zevios Metathronos for posting this.

It's very grounding and reassuring to know that we put expectations on ourselves that are reasonable and beneficial, regardless of how others feel about these matters. It takes real commitment to stay on this path.

This makes me wonder, is becoming an advanced member the same as being new in terms of difficulty? Many great people here have fallen on the wayside and/or haven't put in the right effort. This comes as a shock to so many as these were once highly talented and dedicated members.

I think in some ways it can become harder because you become more conscious of the enemy. This struggle is so much like the contrast between Neil and Cipher in The Matrix.

The only path for us is arduous and painful, yet it frees us and makes us stronger. It really can't be overstated how great an opportunity this is for us.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos 666

New change after a new moon this is beautiful cobra. Even though this post may not even apply to me I can still gladly look at It and use it as fuel myself and still learn. Hail Zeus!! I am sure there are good things everyone can see in this post. You got a lot more backlash than I thought you would have for this post cobra... remember who is who.
 
Egon said:
Damn this simple thread about "you don't do a job, you mustn't carry on its title" has hit a nerve of entitled freeloaders who aren't even whom this topic is talking about :lol:
Not a single serious Zevist got offended with anything said here.
...

"I Never plan to take care for this baby -leaves it without food for years-"

*Evil dude comes in* "Sorry maam, we have to take this away because it must live and it can't live like this, it will die"

"HOW DARE YOU!"
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Egon said:
Damn this simple thread about "you don't do a job, you mustn't carry on its title" has hit a nerve of entitled freeloaders who aren't even whom this topic is talking about :lol:
Not a single serious Zevist got offended with anything said here.
...

"I Never plan to take care for this baby -leaves it without food for years-"

*Evil dude comes in* "Sorry maam, we have to take this away because it must live and it can't live like this, it will die"

"HOW DARE YOU!"

That actually killed me :lol:
 
"Cobra, where are the HPS now that you mention it, they haven't showed up or sporadically show up twice a year, why is this happening? They aren't caring"

"Yes, that's what I mean, they show up sporadically twice a year or something and that's not acceptable, I won't tolerate them not caring for you"

"Cobra, you are evil for stating what exactly I was thinking about and is the obvious reality of the subject"
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
/sarcasm on

...

Better than a movie :lol:
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
"Cobra, where are the HPS now that you mention it, they haven't showed up or sporadically show up twice a year, why is this happening? They aren't caring"

"Yes, that's what I mean, they show up sporadically twice a year or something and that's not acceptable, I won't tolerate them not caring for you"

"Cobra, you are evil for stating what exactly I was thinking about and is the obvious reality of the subject"

"Cobra is so evil. He wants people to actually care and do their job. This is so wrong. I'm so triggered and upset."

"Oh hell naw. How dare you care about us. We should be made into 6 million lampshades by now, it will help with global warming."

Literally half those comments summarized basically.

Lol...
 
Shannon thank you for the knowledge you chared about health. I enjoy reading your posts. Please post more often.
 
When ever I read a good topic here, it motivates me to contribute something meaningfull my self. The more active great people we have, the better is the community. Let us all try to give our best.

Thanks HP Zevios for caring and providing the most off all for ToZ/the gods. Without you, we would all sit isolated in our homes and could only look at what one was abel to save from ToZ. No Forum, no sites, nothing would be left.
 
Lydia [JG said:
" post_id=414836 time=1674230161 user_id=57]
People need to work for their titles and earn the respect from others. It wasn't fair that a person had a high ranking title yet did next to nothing for the ToZ for years. The ToZ is about being fair, those who work hard get the recognition deserved.

Clergy = public servant. HP Cobra is a true clergy member, as he literally slaves away answering posts, answering private emails, making sermons, making the Ritual rituals, making the God rituals, and who knows what else, endlessly. As he wrote, never being more than 24-36 hours away from the ToZ. That's astounding.

Correct! I totally agree with you.

People should work hard for their titles, as you worked hard for yours.

People who are lazy, who do not work for ToZ, who do not answer questions that fellow Zevism members ask should never be allowed to put dumb things and consider that by this they would become a High Priest or a Guardian.

People need to learn and develop a lot and for years continuously for obtaining an honourable title here.

I thank you a lot sister Lydia for the work that you have put here and I appreciate that you spend a lot of time here on the ToZ helping us, even now with the ask Zeus service which I think it is very engulfed with questions from a lot of individuals who want to remain anonymous.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
AsraArdwulfLeberecht said:
Manofsatan said:

Zevism only reply to this for new members' sakes, so they don't get their raw minds influenced by half baked opinions. It's astounding to see how people think they can't be free if they have a leader. On the contrary, following a leader (with reason) is giving you the freedom of knowing what may be better and doing what's good.
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Finally you admit, Oh hell naw!!! :lol:
 
luis said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
This makes me doubt what she said in all of these years... was Shannon honest? Or was she another infiltrator? This is what I don't understand. And if she was just lazy then I can't still belive how much advanced she said she was or how close to the Gods she is.
I think this sermon has nothing to do with Shannon being fake or not a true Zevism.

Rather with a new stance that people with titles who don't participate will lose their title. As is what happens with every organization and what should've happened.

I mean even dumb Facebook would automatically remove your "Top Fan" title or Reddit or whatever other groups to give an example. This shouldn't be taken personally. As long as you're not banned or something. Even if your banned on forums. You can try and be honest with father Zeus and focus on yourself and growth for a while.

I think this rule would also apply on Gaurdians if they don't provide for ToZ's community. (Which doesn't always have to be replying to threads. But honest work, service, and help.)

Which is awesome beacuse titles don't just give power for random people to make them seem advanced. But rather, their service, help, work, and honest growth and advancement are what earns them the title.

This just shows having a "title" is not always "shiny" or great for everyone. It requires responsibility and hard work. Which is, if you're honest to yourself and the community, is not for everyone.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Shannon has been except of legitimate as a person, a very good person and that is known to everyone. I will not entertain personal slander against her, and no, she has never been in anyway bad as an individual.

I always enjoyed my conversations with her. She was very insightful and pleasant to speak with. I missed her a lot in the past 2 years. I wish her all the best!

Has Lucius Oria been demoted too?

AshStarIshtar_88 said:
What a shame! You could have even be paid with over $100 million dollars worth in Bitcoin if you resolved my riddle.

RIght... How about you send me $10M of that, and the rest you donate to ToZ? We'll be sure to put them to great use :lol:

NinRick said:
I Highly doubt the Gods will arrive in, what now? 15 years from now?

And if, this is in a different sense that most of you here believe.

I think rather than physical, this is is something that has to do with the potential person of the Gods consciousness and how our/Their influence on the planet.

What happened to SlyScorpion? Was he larping to be on our side again?

Dahaarkan said:
Before HC took over, around 1 in 4 posts of mine were disapproved or deleted, oftentimes without any real justification and when justification was given, it was for petty reasons. Others can likely relate to this. You implying that there is some censorship issue, or that people are met with hostility for expressing themselves is completely false.

In my case, I never had anything disapproved, except in the Italian forum where the former retard moderator could not tolerate someone disagreeing with him, after he had started a fire in the groups over his own issues understanding and translating English.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
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/sarcasm on
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/sarcasm off

That is fucking-fucking great!You amazing huge Commander.

As for these trolls and infiltrators,they are very envious of you Commander,because the true Zevism members respect and appreciate for you.Therefore is also why they are trying to attack you.
But they're JUST trying.:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
mercury_wisdom said:
luis said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
This makes me doubt what she said in all of these years... was Shannon honest? Or was she another infiltrator? This is what I don't understand. And if she was just lazy then I can't still belive how much advanced she said she was or how close to the Gods she is.
...
Well at first I did not understand but this was just talking about some HP's not doing their job. It can happen and I hope they can learn from their mistakes. I just wasn't sure at first because I thought about the mageso situation.
 
nootfall said:
Hello, I have a question.
I'm a atheist who is starting to lean towards Zevism- kind of? I'm still very skeptical but I'm VERY open to it, and wishing for it to be real.

I'm only able to log in here on my school chromebook- and basically the yahoo chats are blocked. So I have to ask my questions here.

And some of the articals are blocked because of this exact reason
"alternative spirituality/beliefs"
IM IN PUBLIC SCHOOL WHAT

Okay okay, so here are the questions-

First, does Zeus actually care about me? Like, no matter my flaws? Kids in my class tell me I'll go to hell for being LGBT+
Or like that they'd hurt me for being LGBT+

Second, will the people who hurt me and my friends be punished?
Like my friends rapist, or the person that tried to trick me and my friends into offing ourselves;

Third, do people who believe in other things get punished, because that thought scares me alot, especially because in the rules it said "no sympathy"

This isn't the thread for this but to answer your questions.

Zeus or the Gods do not care if you're gay or bisexual, the Gods aren't concerned with your private sex life.

There is no "hell" where you are punished, Hell is where some souls the Gods have vested interest in are taken to safely reincarnate.

I can't say whether Zeus cares for you, but he cares for all Potential people of the Gods, for we're his creation. The Gods care more for us than we can imagine, even with our flaws, but we're expected to grow and overcome these flaws through meditation and self empowerment.

Those who hurt you can be punished using workings. Their own karmic destiny may or may not "punish" them for these deeds, but we Zevists are mages and occultists. We have magic to exact our own justice. Black Magick isn't illegal, but in extreme cases rituals to the Gods can be done for this.

The Gods do not "punish" you if you don't believe in them, but only if you make yourself an enemy of them by say, betraying your people, selling them out to enemy forces, and generally acting in a manner that goes extremely against the Gods, which is probably rarer than you'd think.

These would be the Potential people of the Gods souls that have sold themselves to Yehuborim interests and desires for world enslavement.

https://www.templeofzeus.org/HOME.html

Study our forums for far more answers.

https://www.templeofzeus.org/Aware.html

And begin meditations to discover for yourself the powers of the mind and soul. It might take time but you will get there if you take it serious, and you will feel the effects.

Void meditation, Aura of Protection, Charka Spinning and Opening your Chakra meditations are your beginner tools. If you have doubts use these and test them for yourself. It's how my doubts were removed.
 
Stormblood said:
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Shannon has been except of legitimate as a person, a very good person and that is known to everyone. I will not entertain personal slander against her, and no, she has never been in anyway bad as an individual.

I always enjoyed my conversations with her. She was very insightful and pleasant to speak with. I missed her a lot in the past 2 years. I wish her all the best!

Has Lucius Oria been demoted too?

AshStarIshtar_88 said:
What a shame! You could have even be paid with over $100 million dollars worth in Bitcoin if you resolved my riddle.

RIght... How about you send me $10M of that, and the rest you donate to ToZ? We'll be sure to put them to great use :lol:

NinRick said:
I Highly doubt the Gods will arrive in, what now? 15 years from now?

And if, this is in a different sense that most of you here believe.

I think rather than physical, this is is something that has to do with the potential person of the Gods consciousness and how our/Their influence on the planet.

What happened to SlyScorpion? Was he larping to be on our side again?

Dahaarkan said:
Before HC took over, around 1 in 4 posts of mine were disapproved or deleted, oftentimes without any real justification and when justification was given, it was for petty reasons. Others can likely relate to this. You implying that there is some censorship issue, or that people are met with hostility for expressing themselves is completely false.

In my case, I never had anything disapproved, except in the Italian forum where the former retard moderator could not tolerate someone disagreeing with him, after he had started a fire in the groups over his own issues understanding and translating English.

I actually try to mail Sly some months back a couple of times and got no response. Not sure what is going on but I do hope he is alright.
 
Dahaarkan said:
TruthAgainstTheWorld said:
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Regardless Cobra I do wish you well and to other legitimate members. I will be quietly in the background. I rarely ever come here so whatever.

MY LOYALTY IS TO THE GODS, Zeus. With or without ToZ or any damn clergy!
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Before HC took over, around 1 in 4 posts of mine were disapproved or deleted, oftentimes without any real justification and when justification was given, it was for petty reasons. Others can likely relate to this. You implying that there is some censorship issue, or that people are met with hostility for expressing themselves is completely false.
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Technically speaking there have been times I have deleted my own posts for re-posting, review, or poor content. Or simply because they were improper.

At this point any disapproval happens when there are serious things going in the post, like negative things, which I don't think anyone over the course of thousands of post might not have one rejected.
Stormblood said:
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Has Lucius Oria been demoted too?
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Lucius Oria has informed many years ago and I related it back then, that his present career did not allow him to have hardly any time for himself [he informed in time] and then he had to leave. He also had some personal things going. Never was disloyal or anything up until then. That's pretty much it about him.

Stormblood said:
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What happened to SlyScorpion? Was he larping to be on our side again?
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Slyscorpion last time I heard has some things he is working on and I have no reason to believe he larped or anything. I think nobody should open up any rumor until something is verified. He has tried a lot over the years and has done great progress on his personal path.

I really do hope he's well and advancing.

luis said:
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Well at first I did not understand but this was just talking about some HP's not doing their job. It can happen and I hope they can learn from their mistakes. I just wasn't sure at first because I thought about the mageso situation.

Basically yes. None of the other people ever did anything that much on the negative side. Absence or irresponsibility is not the same as doing plots or whatever, which none of the aforementioned people did.

Still, that isn't good. But things should be kept on their own specific basket. Not everyone who might not have done something is evil or whatever.

The only legitimately "bad sided" person to anything was Magestein who for all purposes revealed it later himself anyway.

The post is basically a call for maybe even an apology for this to the community [as a HP exists for the community] and then we are moving on, them absolved of what they didn't want to do, and us knowing that we will formulate further things to ensure everything keeps advancing and members are taken care of.
 

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