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Dangers of Marijuana

RavenSky666

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Marijuana is not as harmless as many people seem to think. Weed may seem relatively safe or ''light'' compared to other substances, but the truth is that it is just as bad in it's own way. Marijuana damages the soul, the aura, and the mind. It may not physically addict someone but it definitely psychologically addicts a person.

WE do not need ANY mind altering substances to advance or to achieve happiness. We need only to meditate and work on our own spirituality naturally. Every person who abuses marijuana, has their own excuses of why they think they ''need'' it, that they convince themselves of constantly. They say things like ''it helps me relax'' or ''I need it to feel happy'' etc. We can achieve these things without any drugs at all. Drugs are an unnecessary crutch. They are only here to cripple us so our spiritual legs never strengthen enough to walk.

I am not talking about necessary medications. Marijuana is not necessary to abuse for any reason. I once was emotionally addicted to it. I loved the way it made me ''feel'', but it was false happiness. False happiness is not real happiness. You can not advance if you are stuck in a state of false happiness, and spiritual laziness. Weed makes someone lazy, hungry, unhealthy, dumbed down. That's what the enemy wants! Why do you think it has been illegal all of this time? What happens when you tell someone they can't have a certain thing? It makes them want it more. The enemy makes it then ''COOL'' and trendy because it seems rebellious, and exciting to do something that is illegal. All the cool kids are doing it right? Now almost everyone has smoked it, and several still do. They can now legalize it in most places and tax it so they can profit from the already hooked masses.

I am making this post to reach out to all of you here that may still be hooked on this. it IS bad, it IS a big deal, marijuana IS harmful. No, it may not be like cocaine, or meth, but it is just as bad in a spiritual sense. You are not really happy on weed, you are not making any progress on weed. You are being lulled into a false sense of happiness and that gives you false comfort. It's like ignoring your alarm, laying in bed too long before you go to work, and then realizing you are now late because you wanted to remain ''happy'' and ''comfy'' and ignore your responsibilities. But guess what? Now you are going to get in trouble at work for it!

The effects of weed are no different than this, only it is on a spiritual level. It makes you want to be ''comfy'' and not advance. Advancement seems scary, OMG you mean I have to actually WORK for it!? Wouldn't it be much better to smoke pot, and ignore personal, and spiritual growth, and just waste away into nothingness? No! No one ever said personal advancement is easy. WE are NOT children anymore, Challenges, and hard work, are necessary to grow. Smoking weed is not self medicating, It is self destructive! You WILL get better without it, you WILL get stronger, don't give up. Put down the weed, work on your soul. The Gods are here to help you. They care, And They understand what you are going through. You CAN and WILL get better, and weed is NOT the answer.

This path is not always easy, but we are all working on ourselves, we are all healing from past trauma, we are all giving up on bad and harmful habits gradually, to become what Father Satan intended for us to be. We are all working towards betterment together on this path. I cannot bear the thought of some of you out there making the same stupid mistakes I was making for too damn long. Please take this advice to heart. Save yourself from going deeper into this rabbit hole. Good luck to you! And don't feel bad. We have all made our own mistakes in this life, and many other lives. Change starts here, it starts now, it starts with you. All it takes is one step forward in the correct direction. Satanism is about letting go of the enemy's filth, freeing oneself from curses, healing, advancing, becoming a God. The Gods are the most advanced beings in existence and they don't use drugs. Take their example. Let go of these enemy curses! Drugs are just another enemy curse. Let them go and free yourself once and for all. Hail Satan!
 
Months before becoming an Zevism I have started smoking it everyday because i knew a person who would give it to me for free, then I got in a situation in which I couldn't smoke it anymore, that moment was the exact moment I found Spiritual Satanism, when that period ended I felt bright, like really bright, as if a mental fog that made my mind slow disappeared, this was 1 month after not being able to smoke. I was seeing the world more clearly. The dangers of marijuana are real, and teens are getting their brain destroyed by it especially since their brains are in development.
 
Very refreshing. Luckily, I stopped smoking it years ago. Can you maybe write one about coffee?
 
This drug is really fucking dangerous!! This statement right here is not even close to strong enough to convey the message especially to someone involved in spiritual warfare for Satan but i think you get my point.

Even back in the days when I was using drugs a lot i still had a lot of fear about this one more so than anything cause I kind of understood what it did.

If anyone is open to the astral they know who uses this drug regularly at least. Their aura looks like shit is full of holes and weak. Their energy is imbalanced and messed up.

But what is dangerous about this especially for Satanists it opens up the astral senses more while greatly weakening the spirit at the same time. This effect can last for a few hours which is plenty of time for something on the astral to fuck you up or if a person is weak enough possess them or attach to them.

I would say this is more dangerous than most things even to be honest. It is way more hard to recover and fix the soul with this than a lot of stuff. There is a reason this is legalized many places now it makes people especially normies easy targets of curses and astral attack.

When I used this I was paranoid about getting possessed. Not worth it in my mind or even fun despite the warm feelings and nice aspect of it. Although yeah I kind of like feeling warm and good for a bit but I realize its dangerous spiritually so not worth it in my mind. Not to mention disappointing to the Gods. Last time I used it. Bael literally told me I was disappointing Satan and to throw all of it away and not do that again.

I listened Have not done it since.
 
RavenSky666 said:
Marijuana is not as harmless as many people seem to think. Weed may seem relatively safe or ''light'' compared to other substances, but the truth is that it is just as bad in it's own way. Marijuana damages the soul, the aura, and the mind. It may not physically addict someone but it definitely psychologically addicts a person.

WE do not need ANY mind altering substances to advance or to achieve happiness. We need only to meditate and work on our own spirituality naturally. Every person who abuses marijuana, has their own excuses of why they think they ''need'' it, that they convince themselves of constantly. They say things like ''it helps me relax'' or ''I need it to feel happy'' etc. We can achieve these things without any drugs at all. Drugs are an unnecessary crutch. They are only here to cripple us so our spiritual legs never strengthen enough to walk.

I am not talking about necessary medications. Marijuana is not necessary to abuse for any reason. I once was emotionally addicted to it. I loved the way it made me ''feel'', but it was false happiness. False happiness is not real happiness. You can not advance if you are stuck in a state of false happiness, and spiritual laziness. Weed makes someone lazy, hungry, unhealthy, dumbed down. That's what the enemy wants! Why do you think it has been illegal all of this time? What happens when you tell someone they can't have a certain thing? It makes them want it more. The enemy makes it then ''COOL'' and trendy because it seems rebellious, and exciting to do something that is illegal. All the cool kids are doing it right? Now almost everyone has smoked it, and several still do. They can now legalize it in most places and tax it so they can profit from the already hooked masses.

I am making this post to reach out to all of you here that may still be hooked on this. it IS bad, it IS a big deal, marijuana IS harmful. No, it may not be like cocaine, or meth, but it is just as bad in a spiritual sense. You are not really happy on weed, you are not making any progress on weed. You are being lulled into a false sense of happiness and that gives you false comfort. It's like ignoring your alarm, laying in bed too long before you go to work, and then realizing you are now late because you wanted to remain ''happy'' and ''comfy'' and ignore your responsibilities. But guess what? Now you are going to get in trouble at work for it!

The effects of weed are no different than this, only it is on a spiritual level. It makes you want to be ''comfy'' and not advance. Advancement seems scary, OMG you mean I have to actually WORK for it!? Wouldn't it be much better to smoke pot, and ignore personal, and spiritual growth, and just waste away into nothingness? No! No one ever said personal advancement is easy. WE are NOT children anymore, Challenges, and hard work, are necessary to grow. Smoking weed is not self medicating, It is self destructive! You WILL get better without it, you WILL get stronger, don't give up. Put down the weed, work on your soul. The Gods are here to help you. They care, And They understand what you are going through. You CAN and WILL get better, and weed is NOT the answer.

This path is not always easy, but we are all working on ourselves, we are all healing from past trauma, we are all giving up on bad and harmful habits gradually, to become what Father Satan intended for us to be. We are all working towards betterment together on this path. I cannot bear the thought of some of you out there making the same stupid mistakes I was making for too damn long. Please take this advice to heart. Save yourself from going deeper into this rabbit hole. Good luck to you! And don't feel bad. We have all made our own mistakes in this life, and many other lives. Change starts here, it starts now, it starts with you. All it takes is one step forward in the correct direction. Satanism is about letting go of the enemy's filth, freeing oneself from curses, healing, advancing, becoming a God. The Gods are the most advanced beings in existence and they don't use drugs. Take their example. Let go of these enemy curses! Drugs are just another enemy curse. Let them go and free yourself once and for all. Hail Satan!

Just read the side effects on Kratom, another popular choice.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitragyna_speciosa
 
Meteor said:
For that matter, I think alcohol is bad too. I used to drink a glass a few times a year during social events so I could relax more, but thanks to meditation, social events don't stress me out anymore, so there's just no incentive to drink any anymore. There's better ways to relax and have fun than to drink some mild poison that impairs brain functions.

And this is always pottards arguments. Whenever I talk about marijuana being bad for 100% all the reasons you and others are giving here, they’ll be like, “durrr but alcohol!” It’s funny to watch them not know what to say when you agree that alcohol is bad too. Or when they say, “it’s natuuuuuraaaal man! It’s a plant!” Alcohol comes from plants too!!! Along with many other poisons....

But even then! I don’t think alcohol is as bad as marijuana. It’s definitely more accessible and more culturally accepted, but it’s not treated as some miracle cure or holy plant. I think most people would agree that alcohol is an addictive substance and harmful to the body. Even alcoholics. But pot heads delude themselves into thinking they are transcended somehow and that every time they take a hit, they are elevating themselves. It’s annoying.
 
As someone who struggles with this, I by and large agree with what's been said here but just want to add in a few points.

Libra said:
And this is always pottards arguments. Whenever I talk about marijuana being bad for 100% all the reasons you and others are giving here, they’ll be like, “durrr but alcohol!” It’s funny to watch them not know what to say when you agree that alcohol is bad too. Or when they say, “it’s natuuuuuraaaal man! It’s a plant!” Alcohol comes from plants too!!! Along with many other poisons....

But even then! I don’t think alcohol is as bad as marijuana. It’s definitely more accessible and more culturally accepted, but it’s not treated as some miracle cure or holy plant. I think most people would agree that alcohol is an addictive substance and harmful to the body. Even alcoholics. But pot heads delude themselves into thinking they are transcended somehow and that every time they take a hit, they are elevating themselves. It’s annoying.

The argument I'm about to use is far, far too complicated to ever be used successfully against someone who genuinely believes plants = safe, but you and everyone else will understand it so it'll help give a more clear image:

THC - the psychoactive cannabinoid in marijuana that makes you high - and ethyl alcohol, the form of alcohol people drink...are made from the exact. Same. Elements.

The exact. Same. Elements. Carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen.

The only difference, and I mean the only difference, is the amount of each atom in a molecule and how they are arranged.

Now this isn't to say that this difference is minor; differences in the amount of atoms in a molecule and how they're arranged are unbelievably crucial in making life what it is. Just one oxygen atom is the difference between the carbon dioxide we exhale and the carbon monoxide that fucking kills us. That being said, the reason this is important is it shows that something being "natural," "comes from plants/the earth", so on and so forth - all those arguments are the very epitome of horse shit, because whether something is natural or completely artificial, it is made of the very same elements that make up literally everything. It's just a matter of whether or not their number of atoms and arrangements create a product that is healthy or dangerous. THC has an arrangement of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen that is very dangerous, as does alcohol. Other organic molecules do not have such arrangements.

All this being said, though, I would not say that alcohol is better than marijuana solely because there's this idea around weed that weed is healthier for you. There's still a great deal of people who rightly believe that marijuana is addictive, and a great deal of people whose admission about the addictiveness of alcohol ends at "oh but I drink in moderation so its not bad for me." Many, from alcoholics to non-alcoholics, will reference studies on the alleged health benefits of occasional wine drinking. More important to me on this subject, though, is the level of physical degradation that alcohol gifts its consumers. The damage it does to your liver is catastrophic, it fucks up your digestive system something fierce, and the resultant complications can and will shed decades of life. Granted that this is anecdotal, but every man in my family that did not drink regularly - and every woman, too, for that matter - lived to be at least 90 years old. All those that drank regularly died in their 50s and early 60s.

I don't want this to seem like I'm defending weed, as its a substance that I hold in extremely vile contempt. I would just argue that alcohol arguably does more damage, but that at the end of the day, it's like trying to compare the pros and cons of eating dried dog shit to a thirty-year-old McDonald's cheeseburger. Both are going to be absolutely awful for you and come with their myriads of cons that make neither choice good for you. It's for that reason that I also contest the idea that marijuana is physically addictive - but I ultimately consider such a contest moot because, who cares? The psychological addiction is very much real, the spiritual weakening has been reported by every dedicated Satanist who has fallen into this garbage, and because of that, weed would be just as damaging even if it weren't addictive whatsoever. It'd just have the silver lining of being easier to quit - and currently does have some of that silver lining in the sense that quitting weed will not cause the physical sicknesses that happen with physically addictive drugs. That, if anything, just gives Satanists less of an excuse to keep smoking.
 
Powstanie Pogańskie said:
I don't want this to seem like I'm defending weed, as its a substance that I hold in extremely vile contempt. I would just argue that alcohol arguably does more damage, but that at the end of the day, it's like trying to compare the pros and cons of eating dried dog shit to a thirty-year-old McDonald's cheeseburger. Both are going to be absolutely awful for you and come with their myriads of cons that make neither choice good for you. It's for that reason that I also contest the idea that marijuana is physically addictive - but I ultimately consider such a contest moot because, who cares? The psychological addiction is very much real, the spiritual weakening has been reported by every dedicated Satanist who has fallen into this garbage, and because of that, weed would be just as damaging even if it weren't addictive whatsoever. It'd just have the silver lining of being easier to quit - and currently does have some of that silver lining in the sense that quitting weed will not cause the physical sicknesses that happen with physically addictive drugs. That, if anything, just gives Satanists less of an excuse to keep smoking.

I see what you mean. And you are right, there’s not much point in arguing the details of which one is worse than the other beyond being pedantic. I’ve personally had a traumatic experience from ingesting THC, so I’m pulling a bit from bias here, overall. But the psychological damage was incomparable to anything I’ve experienced intoxicated on alcohol. Not over long term use, but a one time, hey one time won’t hurt long term, kinda deal. I wouldn’t argue that alcohol is physically worse for you, just that the psychological damage I experienced far outweighed any experience, physical and psychological, I had from drinking alcohol. And I’ve been around alcoholics, I’ve seen how it breaks down all functioning in their body, physically and mentally. Compared to what I went through, I think I would have to be close to that state for it to compare, but it’s hard to say because I never have issues with substance addiction.

That’s not to disagree with anything you said, I’m not trying to defend alcohol or say it’s “safer,” I just feel like, personally, if THC has the potential to do what it did to me, that it shouldn’t be taken as lightly as drinking or even be compared as something similar, beyond addiction and health issues. Not that I think either should be taken lightly, but I think you understand where I’m coming from at this point. I’m explaining the logic behind my initial thoughts more than anything.

Your post was really thought-provoking, thank you for sharing your thoughts, especially about what makes something “natural.”
 
Libra said:
I see what you mean. And you are right, there’s not much point in arguing the details of which one is worse than the other beyond being pedantic. I’ve personally had a traumatic experience from ingesting THC, so I’m pulling a bit from bias here, overall. But the psychological damage was incomparable to anything I’ve experienced intoxicated on alcohol. Not over long term use, but a one time, hey one time won’t hurt long term, kinda deal. I wouldn’t argue that alcohol is physically worse for you, just that the psychological damage I experienced far outweighed any experience, physical and psychological, I had from drinking alcohol. And I’ve been around alcoholics, I’ve seen how it breaks down all functioning in their body, physically and mentally. Compared to what I went through, I think I would have to be close to that state for it to compare, but it’s hard to say because I never have issues with substance addiction.

That’s not to disagree with anything you said, I’m not trying to defend alcohol or say it’s “safer,” I just feel like, personally, if THC has the potential to do what it did to me, that it shouldn’t be taken as lightly as drinking or even be compared as something similar, beyond addiction and health issues. Not that I think either should be taken lightly, but I think you understand where I’m coming from at this point. I’m explaining the logic behind my initial thoughts more than anything.

Your post was really thought-provoking, thank you for sharing your thoughts, especially about what makes something “natural.”

Thank you as well friend, I enjoy having these conversations. Your logic is absolutely sound and correct from my perspective, and it is definitely true that the psychological damage that weed imparts is what puts it up there alongside alcohol. Arguably this can be what makes it more insidious since the lack of the same degree of physical degradation that one sees with alcohol is what gives people the immediate impression that this is the preferable of the two.

Fascinatingly enough, just tonight I was talking with a friend who said he wants to cut back on his drinking, and has done so for the past several days. As a result, and he showed me, it's been giving him the shakes. I thought back to this thread when I saw that as it got me thinking again about the physical versus psychological symptoms.

I have some bias as well in the form of my sensitive ass digestive system, so even though I've had some vodka beverages I enjoy, alcohol gets me sick pretty quick, hence my describing its effects with colorful language. On top of that, something I've noticed in my experiences is how people have these vast differences in how they react to substances; differences so vast that it results in experiences like what you went through, and what Meteor's uncle experienced. I've not personally had this happen, and I personally do not have anyone in my friend group who has had that happen, but I know for a fact that it absolutely does regardless of it being outside my immediate sphere of experience, which is something that stoners can have difficulty grasping. People try to argue that this can just be from it being bad or laced weed, but I contest this on the grounds that smoking is almost always a social experience and thus should affect the others - and if everyone is still reacting differently to laced weed, then that still validates the point that people can have terrible, potentially irreversible experiences with these drugs, which just heaps additional risk on something that's damaging you physically, mentally and spiritually even if you're having the time of your life.

In a way we're sort of opposites on the matter of our reactions to at least weed. I've never had a negative experience of that nature in the several years I consumed THC, barring the mental and spiritual degradation and all that goes along with that. In truth, while I'm not proud of it, I've experimented around with other drugs and, on a mental level, have never actually had any sort of negative experience, which surprised me on the grounds that I've always figured I'd be too mentally weak to handle such things. Instead, my susceptibility to substance abuse - couple of supporting aspects in my natal chart - manifests in the form of a weak will and being prone to addiction. I'm at least happy that I seem to have some level of mental resilience, but a combination of being susceptible to addiction and a tendency to make stupid ass decisions certainly weighs me down - and that mental resilience won't last for long after. Thus I'm glad when these subjects pop up as I can relate to others who have struggled and continue to struggle with this bullshit, and sympathize with those such as yourself who had to deal with something that's genuinely haunting when it happens. It's a somber topic but people learn from these threads.
 
I went through a withdrawal when I quit weed. I imagine it was nowhere near as intense as withdrawal from harder drugs, let alone alcohol withdrawal which one can literally die from. It was more or less adjusting to being able to go to sleep without weed. I actually quit during my born again christard phase. Luckily that phase led into spiritual satanism.

I was totally one of those people that believed weed was good for me, self medicating for mental illness that was more than likely exacerbated by cannabis use. It’s like how a cigarette smoker says it relieves stress, meanwhile the stress that a cigarette relieves is more or less stress induced by lowered nicotine levels. I was also into psychedelic drugs, believing all the nonsense about how those can be beneficial to your health. Cuz like broz u totally need 2 take shroomz to awaken ur third eye and heal from all ur traumas n sheit. And shrooms are lyk totally natural, u ever hear da stoned ape theory that’s lyk how we evolved, that’s the real missing link, not super advanced ETs and their so called bioengineering, it was totally the shroomz man.

Glad I got away from all that stuff, it’s crazy how one can be swallowed up by all the information surrounding that stuff. If you wanna talk about weed being a gateway to anything, it’s psychedelics and the culture surrounding it.
 
You don't need drugs, you need Yourself. The enemy needs drugs because they have no Self. They push drugs because they want others to lose Themselves. There's no 'but if you do it either', these drugs only end in one place. If you're taking that route, better pray that end doesn't come in the worst way possible :evil: you don't generally survive that.
 
Libra said:
Powstanie Pogańskie said:
I don't want this to seem like I'm defending weed, as its a substance that I hold in extremely vile contempt. I would just argue that alcohol arguably does more damage, but that at the end of the day, it's like trying to compare the pros and cons of eating dried dog shit to a thirty-year-old McDonald's cheeseburger. Both are going to be absolutely awful for you and come with their myriads of cons that make neither choice good for you. It's for that reason that I also contest the idea that marijuana is physically addictive - but I ultimately consider such a contest moot because, who cares? The psychological addiction is very much real, the spiritual weakening has been reported by every dedicated Satanist who has fallen into this garbage, and because of that, weed would be just as damaging even if it weren't addictive whatsoever. It'd just have the silver lining of being easier to quit - and currently does have some of that silver lining in the sense that quitting weed will not cause the physical sicknesses that happen with physically addictive drugs. That, if anything, just gives Satanists less of an excuse to keep smoking.

I see what you mean. And you are right, there’s not much point in arguing the details of which one is worse than the other beyond being pedantic. I’ve personally had a traumatic experience from ingesting THC, so I’m pulling a bit from bias here, overall. But the psychological damage was incomparable to anything I’ve experienced intoxicated on alcohol. Not over long term use, but a one time, hey one time won’t hurt long term, kinda deal. I wouldn’t argue that alcohol is physically worse for you, just that the psychological damage I experienced far outweighed any experience, physical and psychological, I had from drinking alcohol. And I’ve been around alcoholics, I’ve seen how it breaks down all functioning in their body, physically and mentally. Compared to what I went through, I think I would have to be close to that state for it to compare, but it’s hard to say because I never have issues with substance addiction.

That’s not to disagree with anything you said, I’m not trying to defend alcohol or say it’s “safer,” I just feel like, personally, if THC has the potential to do what it did to me, that it shouldn’t be taken as lightly as drinking or even be compared as something similar, beyond addiction and health issues. Not that I think either should be taken lightly, but I think you understand where I’m coming from at this point. I’m explaining the logic behind my initial thoughts more than anything.

Your post was really thought-provoking, thank you for sharing your thoughts, especially about what makes something “natural.”

I agree that it can be a really traumatic experience.
I dont use this anymore but the first time I tried it I was very frightened freaking out etc. I guess back then the only reason I used it sometimes was to fit in and I thought make myself more brave and in control of my mind but that was dumb. For some reason I never much liked weed that much. It strongly intensifies the thoughts and leaves you wide open to the enemy and really anything on the astral including the Gods but they will simply tell you to throw it away and don't do it again if they notice you in that state. They do not like this plant. The problem with this is if the enemy is there especially if your really high they can give psychotic homicidal and suicidal types of thoughts and really dark cold or bad feelings to the person. So you can tell this is not good. It is not good to be that open to the enemy especially if you are quite spiritually open. They will have a field day with you if they notice you in this state.

I realize using this plant could be a huge mistake especially with the enemy still here.

Phyical harm is besides the point. Doing it a few times probably won't harm you much in that way or at all. The problem is mentally and spiritually this can really fuck you up very quickly maybe even in just one use.

So who cares if its not that harmful in the physical compared to Alcohol or some other things.

This stuff does not compare to that at all its a totally different experience and can totally mess you up spiritually after even one use more than most other things could if the enemy finds you in that state.

Remember even if they do nothing or don't notice one or two times your just lucky. If you havent had a bad experience just stop dont do it again and count your blessings cause they will eventually and you won't like it at all. I guarantee you this.
 
slyscorpion said:
Libra said:
Powstanie Pogańskie said:
I don't want this to seem like I'm defending weed, as its a substance that I hold in extremely vile contempt. I would just argue that alcohol arguably does more damage, but that at the end of the day, it's like trying to compare the pros and cons of eating dried dog shit to a thirty-year-old McDonald's cheeseburger. Both are going to be absolutely awful for you and come with their myriads of cons that make neither choice good for you. It's for that reason that I also contest the idea that marijuana is physically addictive - but I ultimately consider such a contest moot because, who cares? The psychological addiction is very much real, the spiritual weakening has been reported by every dedicated Satanist who has fallen into this garbage, and because of that, weed would be just as damaging even if it weren't addictive whatsoever. It'd just have the silver lining of being easier to quit - and currently does have some of that silver lining in the sense that quitting weed will not cause the physical sicknesses that happen with physically addictive drugs. That, if anything, just gives Satanists less of an excuse to keep smoking.

I see what you mean. And you are right, there’s not much point in arguing the details of which one is worse than the other beyond being pedantic. I’ve personally had a traumatic experience from ingesting THC, so I’m pulling a bit from bias here, overall. But the psychological damage was incomparable to anything I’ve experienced intoxicated on alcohol. Not over long term use, but a one time, hey one time won’t hurt long term, kinda deal. I wouldn’t argue that alcohol is physically worse for you, just that the psychological damage I experienced far outweighed any experience, physical and psychological, I had from drinking alcohol. And I’ve been around alcoholics, I’ve seen how it breaks down all functioning in their body, physically and mentally. Compared to what I went through, I think I would have to be close to that state for it to compare, but it’s hard to say because I never have issues with substance addiction.

That’s not to disagree with anything you said, I’m not trying to defend alcohol or say it’s “safer,” I just feel like, personally, if THC has the potential to do what it did to me, that it shouldn’t be taken as lightly as drinking or even be compared as something similar, beyond addiction and health issues. Not that I think either should be taken lightly, but I think you understand where I’m coming from at this point. I’m explaining the logic behind my initial thoughts more than anything.

Your post was really thought-provoking, thank you for sharing your thoughts, especially about what makes something “natural.”

I agree that it can be a really traumatic experience.
I dont use this anymore but the first time I tried it I was very frightened freaking out etc. I guess back then the only reason I used it sometimes was to fit in and I thought make myself more brave and in control of my mind but that was dumb. For some reason I never much liked weed that much. It strongly intensifies the thoughts and leaves you wide open to the enemy and really anything on the astral including the Gods but they will simply tell you to throw it away and don't do it again if they notice you in that state. They do not like this plant. The problem with this is if the enemy is there especially if your really high they can give psychotic homicidal and suicidal types of thoughts and really dark cold or bad feelings to the person. So you can tell this is not good. It is not good to be that open to the enemy especially if you are quite spiritually open. They will have a field day with you if they notice you in this state.

I realize using this plant could be a huge mistake especially with the enemy still here.

Phyical harm is besides the point. Doing it a few times probably won't harm you much in that way or at all. The problem is mentally and spiritually this can really fuck you up very quickly maybe even in just one use.

So who cares if its not that harmful in the physical compared to Alcohol or some other things.

This stuff does not compare to that at all its a totally different experience and can totally mess you up spiritually after even one use more than most other things could if the enemy finds you in that state.

Remember even if they do nothing or don't notice one or two times your just lucky. If you havent had a bad experience just stop dont do it again and count your blessings cause they will eventually and you won't like it at all. I guarantee you this.

back when i was trying to quit smoking weed numerous times, upon starting back up again the extreme negative psychological effects would be more severe than what they would be on everyday, multiple times a day use. back before i was as open as i am now, it seemed like alot of the gods messages were quite clear to me in the high state, but when i had a bad time, it was very bad. there was like fine line i tried to never cross in terms of its use so i wouldn't experience that.

now that i fully dedicated my time to the gods and my meditations taken very seriously (along with the Ritual), if i were to smoke weed now i would feel the extreme anxiety of the enemy as if i would be singled out on the astral as THE target to hit with very little defense and the more one would consume the worse the negative effect.

constantly people try pushing weed as some sort of miracle plant that truly helps, i use to think so but i totally do not any more. the only thing of the plant that i will support is the use of CBD, which is just medicine and not a physiological hindrance to the mind and soul.
 
slyscorpion said:
I agree that it can be a really traumatic experience.
I dont use this anymore but the first time I tried it I was very frightened freaking out etc. I guess back then the only reason I used it sometimes was to fit in and I thought make myself more brave and in control of my mind but that was dumb. For some reason I never much liked weed that much. It strongly intensifies the thoughts and leaves you wide open to the enemy and really anything on the astral including the Gods but they will simply tell you to throw it away and don't do it again if they notice you in that state. They do not like this plant. The problem with this is if the enemy is there especially if your really high they can give psychotic homicidal and suicidal types of thoughts and really dark cold or bad feelings to the person. So you can tell this is not good. It is not good to be that open to the enemy especially if you are quite spiritually open. They will have a field day with you if they notice you in this state.

I realize using this plant could be a huge mistake especially with the enemy still here.

Phyical harm is besides the point. Doing it a few times probably won't harm you much in that way or at all. The problem is mentally and spiritually this can really fuck you up very quickly maybe even in just one use.

So who cares if its not that harmful in the physical compared to Alcohol or some other things.

This stuff does not compare to that at all its a totally different experience and can totally mess you up spiritually after even one use more than most other things could if the enemy finds you in that state.

Remember even if they do nothing or don't notice one or two times your just lucky. If you havent had a bad experience just stop dont do it again and count your blessings cause they will eventually and you won't like it at all. I guarantee you this.

I agree and this is largely where I’m coming from. The traumatic experience I did have came after a few uses that did not effect me too much, mostly before I was a Satanist. But the experience was like you described. It was a full-blown episode of drug induced psychosis and it did feel like being thrown on the battlefield naked. Part of my hallucinations and delusions tried to convince me that the Christian god was real, that I was wrong and that when I die I will experience the same horrific feelings. They communicated that that was the real “hell.” Reliving all your worst memories and experiences, not fire and brimstone. But I could feel the gods there too and I wasn’t convinced at all. When I came out of it, it actually made me want to be a better Satanist.

The most traumatic part was not the delusions though. At one point it literally felt as if my soul was being broken down and reassembled. I would have this explosive ecstasy filled with light and laughter followed by this horrific pain and darkness that felt like roots being pulled out of me. It would cycle back and forth and as I was experiencing the high I would realize I was about to feel that pain again and vice versa. It felt like an eternity in that moment. Like I was experiencing everything that ever happened and would happen. For days after the high, I would slip back into that feeling, like I was being shocked with electricity beneath my skin. I still feel it sometimes when I dream. It is not pleasant.

That’s why I can never emphasis enough how fucked weed can make you. I always try to talk about my experience when the thread inevitably comes up because it damaged me on such a spiritual level and it lasted for so long. I thought I wouldn’t recover those days afterwards, that’d I’d just be a brain dumb idiot. I struggled to remember anything but what I experienced and I felt stuck in some causal loop. I couldn’t even properly visualize for awhile.

It’s not worth it and does not even compare to the worst of alcoholic stupors.
 
slyscorpion said:
Libra said:
Powstanie Pogańskie said:
I don't want this to seem like I'm defending weed, as its a substance that I hold in extremely vile contempt. I would just argue that alcohol arguably does more damage, but that at the end of the day, it's like trying to compare the pros and cons of eating dried dog shit to a thirty-year-old McDonald's cheeseburger. Both are going to be absolutely awful for you and come with their myriads of cons that make neither choice good for you. It's for that reason that I also contest the idea that marijuana is physically addictive - but I ultimately consider such a contest moot because, who cares? The psychological addiction is very much real, the spiritual weakening has been reported by every dedicated Satanist who has fallen into this garbage, and because of that, weed would be just as damaging even if it weren't addictive whatsoever. It'd just have the silver lining of being easier to quit - and currently does have some of that silver lining in the sense that quitting weed will not cause the physical sicknesses that happen with physically addictive drugs. That, if anything, just gives Satanists less of an excuse to keep smoking.

I see what you mean. And you are right, there’s not much point in arguing the details of which one is worse than the other beyond being pedantic. I’ve personally had a traumatic experience from ingesting THC, so I’m pulling a bit from bias here, overall. But the psychological damage was incomparable to anything I’ve experienced intoxicated on alcohol. Not over long term use, but a one time, hey one time won’t hurt long term, kinda deal. I wouldn’t argue that alcohol is physically worse for you, just that the psychological damage I experienced far outweighed any experience, physical and psychological, I had from drinking alcohol. And I’ve been around alcoholics, I’ve seen how it breaks down all functioning in their body, physically and mentally. Compared to what I went through, I think I would have to be close to that state for it to compare, but it’s hard to say because I never have issues with substance addiction.

That’s not to disagree with anything you said, I’m not trying to defend alcohol or say it’s “safer,” I just feel like, personally, if THC has the potential to do what it did to me, that it shouldn’t be taken as lightly as drinking or even be compared as something similar, beyond addiction and health issues. Not that I think either should be taken lightly, but I think you understand where I’m coming from at this point. I’m explaining the logic behind my initial thoughts more than anything.

Your post was really thought-provoking, thank you for sharing your thoughts, especially about what makes something “natural.”

I agree that it can be a really traumatic experience.
I dont use this anymore but the first time I tried it I was very frightened freaking out etc. I guess back then the only reason I used it sometimes was to fit in and I thought make myself more brave and in control of my mind but that was dumb. For some reason I never much liked weed that much. It strongly intensifies the thoughts and leaves you wide open to the enemy and really anything on the astral including the Gods but they will simply tell you to throw it away and don't do it again if they notice you in that state. They do not like this plant. The problem with this is if the enemy is there especially if your really high they can give psychotic homicidal and suicidal types of thoughts and really dark cold or bad feelings to the person. So you can tell this is not good. It is not good to be that open to the enemy especially if you are quite spiritually open. They will have a field day with you if they notice you in this state.

I realize using this plant could be a huge mistake especially with the enemy still here.

Phyical harm is besides the point. Doing it a few times probably won't harm you much in that way or at all. The problem is mentally and spiritually this can really fuck you up very quickly maybe even in just one use.

So who cares if its not that harmful in the physical compared to Alcohol or some other things.

This stuff does not compare to that at all its a totally different experience and can totally mess you up spiritually after even one use more than most other things could if the enemy finds you in that state.

Remember even if they do nothing or don't notice one or two times your just lucky. If you havent had a bad experience just stop dont do it again and count your blessings cause they will eventually and you won't like it at all. I guarantee you this.
You might not even see it coming, I had my entire aura cracked through in an instant, dozens of people sent curses at me in a focused manner. Lucky me, otherwise I'd have probably died.

Satan will protect you from getting in enemy hands, but if you keep being an idiot with these things he might one day let their curses kill you so you will learn. Either way, you'd be more productive dead from that incarnation if all you did was drugs and lived like a slothy xtian.
 
Libra said:
slyscorpion said:
I agree that it can be a really traumatic experience.
I dont use this anymore but the first time I tried it I was very frightened freaking out etc. I guess back then the only reason I used it sometimes was to fit in and I thought make myself more brave and in control of my mind but that was dumb. For some reason I never much liked weed that much. It strongly intensifies the thoughts and leaves you wide open to the enemy and really anything on the astral including the Gods but they will simply tell you to throw it away and don't do it again if they notice you in that state. They do not like this plant. The problem with this is if the enemy is there especially if your really high they can give psychotic homicidal and suicidal types of thoughts and really dark cold or bad feelings to the person. So you can tell this is not good. It is not good to be that open to the enemy especially if you are quite spiritually open. They will have a field day with you if they notice you in this state.

I realize using this plant could be a huge mistake especially with the enemy still here.

Phyical harm is besides the point. Doing it a few times probably won't harm you much in that way or at all. The problem is mentally and spiritually this can really fuck you up very quickly maybe even in just one use.

So who cares if its not that harmful in the physical compared to Alcohol or some other things.

This stuff does not compare to that at all its a totally different experience and can totally mess you up spiritually after even one use more than most other things could if the enemy finds you in that state.

Remember even if they do nothing or don't notice one or two times your just lucky. If you havent had a bad experience just stop dont do it again and count your blessings cause they will eventually and you won't like it at all. I guarantee you this.

I agree and this is largely where I’m coming from. The traumatic experience I did have came after a few uses that did not effect me too much, mostly before I was a Satanist. But the experience was like you described. It was a full-blown episode of drug induced psychosis and it did feel like being thrown on the battlefield naked. Part of my hallucinations and delusions tried to convince me that the Christian god was real, that I was wrong and that when I die I will experience the same horrific feelings. They communicated that that was the real “hell.” Reliving all your worst memories and experiences, not fire and brimstone. But I could feel the gods there too and I wasn’t convinced at all. When I came out of it, it actually made me want to be a better Satanist.

The most traumatic part was not the delusions though. At one point it literally felt as if my soul was being broken down and reassembled. I would have this explosive ecstasy filled with light and laughter followed by this horrific pain and darkness that felt like roots being pulled out of me. It would cycle back and forth and as I was experiencing the high I would realize I was about to feel that pain again and vice versa. It felt like an eternity in that moment. Like I was experiencing everything that ever happened and would happen. For days after the high, I would slip back into that feeling, like I was being shocked with electricity beneath my skin. I still feel it sometimes when I dream. It is not pleasant.

That’s why I can never emphasis enough how fucked weed can make you. I always try to talk about my experience when the thread inevitably comes up because it damaged me on such a spiritual level and it lasted for so long. I thought I wouldn’t recover those days afterwards, that’d I’d just be a brain dumb idiot. I struggled to remember anything but what I experienced and I felt stuck in some causal loop. I couldn’t even properly visualize for awhile.

It’s not worth it and does not even compare to the worst of alcoholic stupors.

I agree. This stuff is kind of easy to stay away from as there isn't even much that tempting about it. In fact I felt and do feel a little dread and fear at the thought of using it. It sounds like you used a huge Amount that time. I was always really scared to use that much so I really didn't.

I also never used this that often.

For a spiritual person they may experiment as a way to overcome fear.

I honestly was thinking if I use this it helps me overcome bad stuff in the subconscious and get control of my thoughts. Some other people think this too in New Age circles I am guessing.

Also there were times with it you felt warm and happy etc.

I now realize its totally the enemy causing these Negative experiences. Not something needing to be overcome in the subconscious.
 
So dumb me thought if I fear something I am a pussy if I totally stay away from it and don't face it. Especially since at the time I knew a bunch of people using it. Don't really hang out with those types anymore.
 
Then why does SESHAT the ancient Egyptian goddess of writing, wisdom, and knowledge hava a cannabis leaf over hear head.
Search Google and it’s there .
It’s not a star or a palm leaf !

Cannabis had definitively A role in Egypt that to be honest no one here knows except the gods
 
Hailthepowers666 said:
Then why does SESHAT the ancient Egyptian goddess of writing, wisdom, and knowledge hava a cannabis leaf over hear head.
Search Google and it’s there .
It’s not a star or a palm leaf !

Cannabis had definitively A role in Egypt that to be honest no one here knows except the gods

Don't equate your ignorance with the reality of our world and history.

This is what happens when spiritually blind people try to interpret spiritual allegory in literal ways based on their ineptitude and material obsessions.

Cannabis has nothing to do with ancient Egypt, nor with Seshat, nor with anything in our history.

The so called "leaf" over Seshat's head is not a leaf at all. How foolish can you be?

It signifies instead the risen serpent energy which has fully activated the chakra above the crown, bringing ultimate and boundless wisdom and knowledge, showing Seshat's status as a higher being.

There are 7 rays shining from the central star, connected to the crown through the shushumna, which shows the energy of the 7 main chakra's that merge and rise together to activate the higher parts on the soul.

All those interpretations where this is made to look like a leaf are made by fools who understand nothing on anything spiritual, to even butcher an allegory as obvious and simple as this.

I cannot even really call it an allegory, as it is a literal representation of the state of a soul that a person who achieves the MO has.

To the Ancients, this was common knowledge that everyone and their mothers know.

These days people think it is a marijuana leaf....

Way to make your ancestors turn in their tombs.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Hailthepowers666 said:
Then why does SESHAT the ancient Egyptian goddess of writing, wisdom, and knowledge hava a cannabis leaf over hear head.
Search Google and it’s there .
It’s not a star or a palm leaf !

Cannabis had definitively A role in Egypt that to be honest no one here knows except the gods

Don't equate your ignorance with the reality of our world and history.

This is what happens when spiritually blind people try to interpret spiritual allegory in literal ways based on their ineptitude and material obsessions.

Cannabis has nothing to do with ancient Egypt, nor with Seshat, nor with anything in our history.

The so called "leaf" over Seshat's head is not a leaf at all. How foolish can you be?

It signifies instead the risen serpent energy which has fully activated the chakra above the crown, bringing ultimate and boundless wisdom and knowledge, showing Seshat's status as a higher being.

There are 7 rays shining from the central star, connected to the crown through the shushumna, which shows the energy of the 7 main chakra's that merge and rise together to activate the higher parts on the soul.

All those interpretations where this is made to look like a leaf are made by fools who understand nothing on anything spiritual, to even butcher an allegory as obvious and simple as this.

I cannot even really call it an allegory, as it is a literal representation of the state of a soul that a person who achieves the MO has.

To the Ancients, this was common knowledge that everyone and their mothers know.

These days people think it is a marijuana leaf....

Way to make your ancestors turn in their tombs.


I saw mostly picture of seshat in graphic and with a grean leaf over her head !
go in Google search seshat there’s more picture of her and the weed leaf then the actually stone carving of her with the 7 rays/beams ! ,
So I was curious why do she have a weed leaf and many sites also describe it as a weed leaf and also having a picture of this cartoon like sesha with a green weed leaf.

but after looking more closely at the real stone carvin of seshat like you say, it is 7 rays/beams ,
Thanks for you answer it led me to look more closely and realize.

Everyone can make mistakes, there’s nothing spiritual blinded about that .
 
You cannot become a hippie without smoking Marijuana and listening to jamaican jesus Bob Marley.

Also, don't forget the no shoes policy when traveling from western Europe to India with your moms bank account,
while also getting infected from pretty much every illness imaginable.

May the Greys be with you, when you are full of holes in your aura and every parasite can attach itself unto you.

Mix the fake loud laugh into it, the constant talk of fake love, life and peace
and the singing of shiva shambo in the middle of the night while everybody else tries to sleep.

= the detached from reality buddhist Marijuana individual
 

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