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Criticism and Feedback: How Can We Improve?

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos3 min to read

After the recent post and the overwhelming positive and necessary points about future goals and advancement. That has been an impressive post.

I marvelled reading the many positive comments, especially those who mentioned how much Spiritual Satanism and the Gods have changed you and improved you. We must build further on this.

Most of the things mentioned are already under way. Admittedly that is very positive. The communal value is supposed to increase all the time.

Part of this is dealing with potential mistakes.

Now, it would also be a good idea before the end of the material year, to start another conversation.

This would be over things where you think there should be improvement or constitute mistakes.

Here, we might speak of mistakes or even criticism, but we must focus on this: It has to be functional and of use, and presented properly.

For useful conversation, even if this is aimed at other members or the community, it would be a good idea to express in a respectable manner. Among kin and like minded people with a common mission that is important.

If someone also has negative feedback or even very negative comments, I am open to listen to these of course, but I would request to treat other JoS members with respect, especially people who toil for everyone else everyday.

That is not a question for infiltrators, but for members. Except if maybe you are lukewarm infiltrators who are actually with us but you still say bullshit to yourself that you dislike "us" while you actually do not fall in this category in the end of the day.

That is not a post to isolate a member and start judging them, but rather for community improvement.

The degree of tolerance for error must be understood as being part of nature. We are disgnosing to raise the bar here, not to break people who already want to give.

Further, if one is new or one has not much to point out, then maybe one could write about how they would expect to have a better experience. Or what made you struggle in learning or something similar.

Recognition of errors must happen on a basis of experience. But all opinions welcome.

Example: There has been a lot of editorial errors in many posts or even webpages. There were mistakes. We located them and fixed them. The outcome is that through pointing these mistakes and doing the proper criticism, then putting the work, the errors are being more and more fixed. The aim is to remove these mistakes.

The aim is this: To find out potential areas of improvement and have an upwards going trajectory for the good of the Gods and the JoS community, to reflect this back on members, for our collective growth.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

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I understand that knowledge comes with time and effort, however these are the posts I value the most. The ones in which everyone is beong informed of valuable knowledge. Such as Blackdragon's posts about astrology which have helped myself and others tremendously.

Comprehension of one's natal chart would also be extremely helpful. I cannot recall how many times someone here, myself included, leaked too much information about their chart. It would be beneficial if more experienced members made posts that explain how to interpret one's chart. For example, Shadowcat's posts.

Oftentimes I am disappointed when I do not advance to a level that I work towards. I will meditate and yet not see any results. If posts could be made regarding what one can expect according to their levels of advancement that could avoid many people getting disheartened and stop meditating all together, not that I have or ever will. Nevertheless, it can be a huge punch in the gut.

#22

As a newer member I have been practicing meditations and putting forth effort into spiritual warfare, but due to my transition into college methods like the "40 Day" practice are becoming increasingly difficult for the time being. I suggest a forum that looks strictly on the weakness or "vulnerability" of the enemy. When time is scarce a decisive "attack" can show a lot of effort in a small amount of time.

As another thought, creating that bond with a Demon. Some are gifted in psychic abilities or have experienced the presence of the original gods in the past, but creating a bond in a self taught manner is difficult even with these characteristics. Not having either must be troubling. Perhaps an article on creating a bond or seeking a guardian would help.

#23

I want an " Achievements " section/topic where our Zevism enters and reads success stories, from small workings, to meditation effects.

The rules of this section should be common sense and not a full focus on the bombastic side of things, but quite the opposite, the Healthiness of our path, how it works, the tempo and the success of ours.

On the War Room, I believe knowing that members are doing Rituals is very important. Not how "many" but if there is "one" at that time for further validation to do Ritual then.

With the above, I have in mind a small button on the site or forum, "I am active" , and it makes an online symbol in green on the site. This button should be available to everyone. When one starts the Ritual at the time or now, presses the button. The Button should light up for about 10 minutes, the time of an FRTT. Everyone should see it.

Our rule of thumb for Zevism, is, you pressed it, you do it.

A similar orange button for our Gods ritual should work.

People are working and doing their job. That's the message. You should too.

The other aspect of our forums that is the most important is trust between members. I know things are arriving, nonetheless mentioning this as well.

I believe Zevism people underestimate the power, the effects and the necessity of the God rituals. They should be pinned at the top forever in the Important Articles from the Clergy.


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#25
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Please remember to correct the circle around the Baphomet star in the Rosary image, as well as the new icon for the site

#26
Ravenheart666said:

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I kindly ask the moderator to remove, if possible, this reply from this post as it is not representative of my true self and my true situation and is only the result of a neurosis, thank you for your understanding.

#27
Ravenheart666said:
Ravenheart666said:

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I kindly ask the moderator to remove, if possible, this reply from this post as it is not representative of my true self and my true situation and is only the result of a neurosis, thank you for your understanding.

I kind of find nothing wrong there, things need to be encountered and faced so you can heal. Give yourself some positive feedback and focus on what you have been doing good. What has went outside of plan, can be worked with time.

#28
Egonsaid:
Henu the Greatsaid:

The forums are a mess.

I'd say a way to remove the English announcements from the non-English sub-forums' upbars - some new people click the pages and are like wtf, it's all in English - and give a higher limit of topics per-page because the fixed important topics in the sub-forums reached their limits and they are covering the new topics by everyday users.

I was thinking exactly the same thing, in the Spanish subforum we have the same problem.

#30

Perhaps putting a greater emphasis on Ritual's and cleaning for new people.

Perhaps like a month or two of doing cleaning and Ritual's before starting with powermeditation.

#31

I want to see more messages from the clergy. Frankly where is the rest of the clergy?

I would like that the gods are more active and that JoS becomes more and more spiritual and physical and we bring more VIP people to our side, this I don't know how but we should reach out and find those special individuals who can do good work for our side. I think that the gods can help us here and to appoint more people into HP status

I don't know if anything of the above is plausible but it is more or less a wish I have.

Άβε Δϊα πατέρα ανθρωπότης

#32

As pointed out many times, the difficulty to find interesting material could be solved by using keywords, like on twitter : #

Only advanced members, HPs and JGs as well as "librarians" (the ones who will maybe reorganize the JoS library) could use these keywords in their posts so that quality answers stand out when searching the forums and the library.

#33
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

I have been practicing meditations of power and doing Ritual for about two years. I registered on the site in the fall, although I have been reading the site for about 3 years. I consider myself a beginner because I'm not as advanced as the others.

I'll say what I think, I hope I don't offend anyone.

Constructive criticism:

When I signed up, I started asking questions about reincarnation. I thought I'd get answers to my questions from the HP Zevios Metathronos, or at least the guardians. In the end, I got an answer from one or two people (I don’t remember exactly), but I never got an answer to my questions.

I understand that this is the only truly holy place where I can get the right answers to my questions, there are no other spiritual places, I have nowhere to go but here, I want to know the truth.

I don't quite understand how feedback works. Why do some get answers and some don't? Maybe Cobra and the guardians do not read all the messages, or is the problem in those who ask?

My suggestions:

1. Create a weekly blog, a topic where every beginner or advanced can ask the HP Zevios Metathronos or guardians questions and get answers (for starters, as part of the experiment).
2. If there are many questions, then for example it will be possible to introduce a restriction: No more than 1-3 questions. For example, if the problem is that it is not possible to answer all the questions due to the number of questions coming in, or if they get lost in a lot of messages.

I ask you to forgive me, if I am insolent and breaking the chain of command.

«You will find on the left of the halls of Hades a spring, and standing by it a white cypress. Do not approach this spring at all. You will find another, from the Lake of Memory, with cold water flowing from it. Guardians stand before it. Say: 'I am a child of Earth and starry Heaven, but my race is of Heaven alone. You know this yourselves. I am parched with thirst and am perishing. Give me quickly the cold water flowing from the Lake of Memory.' And they will give you to drink from the sacred spring, and after that you will reign among the other heroes» - From the Petelia Tablet (300-200 BCE)

#34
Zammel2said:

criticism? mmm maybay allert before a Ritual start... 2/3 days before write all things: From day X to Y we do the ritual A,B,C.
criticism angaist bad luck? Yes i lost the email of my original account.
but for the rest...my life improve a lot, i love Father Satan, I love the gods, and i never say how much thanks to all gods and everyone here...normal user and HP ^^

Unfortunately, we have a problem here that is external. I try to give the schedule 1 day in advance. There is also a calculation that goes in that takes in consideration the enemy response. Because if too many days before, they have many days to start preparing too.

I will try to stay on 1 day in advance. Got to check daily. I wish this was different. In the future, it might change and become longer, but the enemy has that luxury because they are many in number.

It's important to appreciate and to be thankful. Without this, life is for nothing.

Manofsatansaid:

Now will really be a great time to read about valeferon

Yes, pretty soon. His page will be magnificent.

Your thirst for spirituality and how much you want to improve is very obvious I have to say, the future looks bright ahead.

YTREWQsaid:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

We've given you our criticism. We aren't interested in going over this for years as others have.

That's not helpful whatsoever. You have given nothing here. But regardless, you'll gain, because there are many things to improve.

If there is a problem of another nature going on I would be open to listen to it.

sshivafrsaid:

As pointed out many times, the difficulty to find interesting material could be solved by using keywords, like on twitter : #

Only advanced members, HPs and JGs as well as "librarians" (the ones who will maybe reorganize the JoS library) could use these keywords in their posts so that quality answers stand out when searching the forums and the library.

Thank you, yes, I know, the search functions need more attention. This goes for the PDF Library and the main JOS too. A little understanding is needed here, because there is endless programming going in the background, and sometimes search functions can be difficult to program. Google tier search needs a lot of indexing [which we might actually do, like keywords for the PDF's etc].

An enormous amount of work has been done by very caring Zevism to that regard, in the PDF project.

The next aspect of the project might include Categorization of material, but also the keywords and a search aimed at keywords.

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I want to see more messages from the clergy. Frankly where is the rest of the clergy?

I would like that the gods are more active and that JoS becomes more and more spiritual and physical and we bring more VIP people to our side, this I don't know how but we should reach out and find those special individuals who can do good work for our side. I think that the gods can help us here and to appoint more people into HP status

I don't know if anything of the above is plausible but it is more or less a wish I have.
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Actually you are very much on point here. I hear you. The other thing is, Clergy gains enormously if one stays their ground [the Gods do their end, and we do our own]. So for one to be given this position and to not care that much is not good for them either. It's a great opportunity.

I have been informed on things but this is not something that I control. Generally I am told there are problems and so on, and I respect that, yet when people need someone, one must take some time. There is not much that can be done here in regards to previous people, but in the future, it will be different.

The Gods know what I do every single day, and how life has been on different occassions to me, and how I always managed to be here for everyone. Therefore, excuses here can be difficult.

At the same time, there are people who are indeed DEVOTED to this community.

Likewise, people who are Clergy must respect their own position, and not log in once per month if at that. There is endless amount of activity that can be done and would need to be done. Besides, encouragement and helping around is oftentimes all that is needed.

There are new people in preparation for this. Additionally, there might be [as recommended by others] another rank before Clergy, the Guardians now. But a Guardian might be appointed as a Priest first, and then with service, into a High Priest.

Years ago, there used to be a rank for "Reverend". The difference here is only semantic. But I believe Priest is a very honorary title and should be treated accordingly.

#35
AristocraticDragon666said:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

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1. Create a weekly blog, a topic where every beginner or advanced can ask the HP Zevios Metathronos or guardians questions and get answers (for starters, as part of the experiment).
2. If there are many questions, then for example it will be possible to introduce a restriction: No more than 1-3 questions. For example, if the problem is that it is not possible to answer all the questions due to the number of questions coming in, or if they get lost in a lot of messages.

I ask you to forgive me, if I am insolent and breaking the chain of command.

You are not breaking anything, because you are expressing a problem that requires to be addressed and we are here to address this and help other newer members and also improve ourselves. Also you wrote very constructive feedback.

If someone can accumulate these questions, I can actually answer them. They have to be in a category. Or somehow like this. Then every so often I can answer these en masse.

I am very sorry, as much as I would like to answer every single question, my time is actually constrained. Many members even those who might be newer have all the necessary knowledge to answer you however in full and correctly.

F_For_Flamingosaid:

Perhaps putting a greater emphasis on Ritual's and cleaning for new people.

Perhaps like a month or two of doing cleaning and Ritual's before starting with powermeditation.

I think the minimum before one engages in Ritual after one dedicates should be 3 months. At 3 months, one can try, but only to see how Spiritual Warfare would work. The average preparation time should be 6 months.

One could cross this rule here, but one must understand why it would exist.

#36
AristocraticDragon666said:

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You can ask any question in this topic and we will try to answer you.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15534

#37
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:
Manofsatansaid:

Now will really be a great time to read about valeferon

Yes, pretty soon. His page will be magnificent.

🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤 THANKS

I would like to do this type of project, categorization, it speaks to me. But with translation projects, I'm afraid I won't be able to honor my commitments, and I'd hate that, to promise and have it go unfulfilled.
However, I can participate if there is a team provided, just to be a backup. If you wish of course.

I can't wait for the Valefor page, thanks 😊😊

#38

1. Is it possible to have a french section in the forum, section in which we would translate your sermon and other important thread. I think it would help people that are not really good for understanding english (I know that we can translate with google translate, but sometimes the translation is a little bit off the track)

2. On the french version of the JOS website, there is no search bar and we have to go on the english version. If we want to introduce new people to JOS with the french site, they wont be able to search for an information without going through the whole website to maybe find the exact page containing the exact link for what they are looking for.

Thx

#39
Masterj810610said:

1. Is it possible to have a french section in the forum, section in which we would translate your sermon and other important thread. I think it would help people that are not really good for understanding english (I know that we can translate with google translate, but sometimes the translation is a little bit off the track)

2. On the french version of the JOS website, there is no search bar and we have to go on the english version. If we want to introduce new people to JOS with the french site, they wont be able to search for an information without going through the whole website to maybe find the exact page containing the exact link for what they are looking for.

Thx

Great idea. :D

#40
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:
AristocraticDragon666said:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

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1. Create a weekly blog, a topic where every beginner or advanced can ask the HP Zevios Metathronos or guardians questions and get answers (for starters, as part of the experiment).
2. If there are many questions, then for example it will be possible to introduce a restriction: No more than 1-3 questions. For example, if the problem is that it is not possible to answer all the questions due to the number of questions coming in, or if they get lost in a lot of messages.

I ask you to forgive me, if I am insolent and breaking the chain of command.

You are not breaking anything, because you are expressing a problem that requires to be addressed and we are here to address this and help other newer members and also improve ourselves. Also you wrote very constructive feedback.

If someone can accumulate these questions, I can actually answer them. They have to be in a category. Or somehow like this. Then every so often I can answer these en masse.

I thought it is important because doing Rituals destroys ths curses, thats why I thought it is better to start with the Rituals because(this could be my lack of understanding) - doing power meditation while beeing cursed and not clean enough would just amplify the curses and the negative energy( reading your anwser i guess this is not how it works, and i would be gratefull for your knowledge on this)

Cheers!

#41

When I was younger I would perform Aerokinesis and even one time I performed telekinesis.

The telekinesis felt like there was a solid vibrating force in between my hand and the object I moved. I had no intention of using it at all and was too young to know what ‘psychokinesis’ was.

I may still be capable of Aerokinesis but I may need to take testosterone pills to increase my confidence and brain power (I don’t eat).

I don’t know how to make posts here. I am new here and am only here because I saw the ‘psychokinesis’ topic on the website.