Completely new and unexperienced... first steps, any advice?

[edw211lehigh]

Hello,

This might get long, so sorry in advance if I create a TL;DR scenario...

I am a 24-year old male and first discovered JoS when I was 18, but never really actively pursued my own spiritual development. At the time, I was heavily grounded in skepticism and atheism, but an unfamiliar part of me in the back of my mind always believed that something was deeply wrong with Christianity, that Satan's side of the story was unfairly never told, and that there IS something else beyond the material. I think my own social conditioning prevented me from going down that road... something told me I wasn't ready yet, if that makes sense.

Without going into too much detail, there have been many changes in my life in the last 6 years. Now that my affairs are stable and fruitful in the physical world, I feel "called", in a way, to begin taking steps towards my spiritual development. I feel inexplicably drawn to using the techniques outlined on your site with Power Meditation and the like.

My conflict is this... I've had scattered psychic experiences throughout my life (feeling the presence of passed loved ones, premonitions, leaving a room with an object in one place and then finding it in another when alone), but have never actively tried developing myself in that area. I am completely inexperienced in meditation and energy work.

It seems like the first step most people take is to undergo the Dedication ritual, but I really don't feel comfortable doing this just yet for a number of reasons. I feel it presumptuous and insincere to make such an oath to a deity that I don't know and have never interacted with. Part of me believes he is there, but I feel that my faith is not strong or developed enough for that sort of ritual to be truly meaningful or sincere.


TL;DR... My four three questions:

How can I begin to build a relationship with Father to the point where I feel like I can undergo the dedication ritual and truly mean it? Is the ritual a prerequisite to begin that relationship?

I'm a bit unclear on which power meditations I should practice in which specific order and for what duration/criteria for mastery for maximum effectiveness? Does anyone have access to a really detailed, laid out training program for someone with NO experience?

Some of my research has led me to learn that most humans have pineal glands that are heavily calcified by toxins in our diet and drinking water... do the power meditations clear these conditions on their own, or is it necessary to make changes to the diet for the meditations to begin having an effect, as I understand the pineal gland is the seat of the soul and psychic faculties.

Is it normal and accepted for some practitioners to intercede on a new member's behalf to ask spirits to help them or show themselves to the initiate so that their development and faith will strengthen itself? That has always been my problem with taking to faith; I can't do it if I haven't communicated directly with whatever entity it is I am expected to follow and obey. If so, I'm not sure how effective it would really be through the Internet, but could anyone help me or ask their friends in the spirit world to help me out and give me some guidance? I am eager to learn more and am willing to take all the help and instruction I can get; I've become bored with the material world and really want to see what else is out there beyond the physical...

Thanks in advance for any advice you may be able to give.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

Hi,

Yes, many people do the dedication ritual as the first thing to do. Usually newbies who have high expectations of the dedication ritual and expect free goodies or instant contact in return and they get disappointed. Just because they do it immediately doesn't mean it's always a good thing.

"My four three questions"

Well they're definitely more than 3 or 4, unless you mean your 4x3=12 questions. Anyway, you should read everything in the site, then after you understand everything you should practice some power meditations. There's the spiritual warfare training program under Hell's army section.

Now about the dedication: imagine you have a girlfriend and want to ask her about a deep relationship with you but at the same time you don't want to be committed to her. Do you think she will accept that or that you'll really going to have a deep relationship this way??That's basically what you're asking about the dedication ritual. Now of course some "relationship dabbler" guys like me are more interested in new experiences rather than deep romantic relationships for now, who knows maybe I'll change after some time. But the point I don't really sit and complain that I want both things to happen, I know what I want and I take responsibility for my choices. Same thing with a relationship with Satan. Sure you can have a relationship with Him, but not a deep one unless you have done the dedication ritual.

The pineal gland is awakened by meditations, but of course be commonsensical with food as well and avoid fluoride where you see it.

And lastly, no, it's been said on the site that there are absolutely no mediators in Satanism. If you want to ask something the Gods, you do that by yourself. Someone else doing that doesn't improve the chance of getting a successful response. The Gods (who are not spirits BTW but extraterrestrial beings whith physical bodies) are very busy as well.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "edw211lehigh" <edw211lehigh@... wrote:

Hello,

This might get long, so sorry in advance if I create a TL;DR scenario...

I am a 24-year old male and first discovered JoS when I was 18, but never really actively pursued my own spiritual development. At the time, I was heavily grounded in skepticism and atheism, but an unfamiliar part of me in the back of my mind always believed that something was deeply wrong with Christianity, that Satan's side of the story was unfairly never told, and that there IS something else beyond the material. I think my own social conditioning prevented me from going down that road... something told me I wasn't ready yet, if that makes sense.

Without going into too much detail, there have been many changes in my life in the last 6 years. Now that my affairs are stable and fruitful in the physical world, I feel "called", in a way, to begin taking steps towards my spiritual development. I feel inexplicably drawn to using the techniques outlined on your site with Power Meditation and the like.

My conflict is this... I've had scattered psychic experiences throughout my life (feeling the presence of passed loved ones, premonitions, leaving a room with an object in one place and then finding it in another when alone), but have never actively tried developing myself in that area. I am completely inexperienced in meditation and energy work.

It seems like the first step most people take is to undergo the Dedication ritual, but I really don't feel comfortable doing this just yet for a number of reasons. I feel it presumptuous and insincere to make such an oath to a deity that I don't know and have never interacted with. Part of me believes he is there, but I feel that my faith is not strong or developed enough for that sort of ritual to be truly meaningful or sincere.


TL;DR... My four three questions:

How can I begin to build a relationship with Father to the point where I feel like I can undergo the dedication ritual and truly mean it? Is the ritual a prerequisite to begin that relationship?

I'm a bit unclear on which power meditations I should practice in which specific order and for what duration/criteria for mastery for maximum effectiveness? Does anyone have access to a really detailed, laid out training program for someone with NO experience?

Some of my research has led me to learn that most humans have pineal glands that are heavily calcified by toxins in our diet and drinking water... do the power meditations clear these conditions on their own, or is it necessary to make changes to the diet for the meditations to begin having an effect, as I understand the pineal gland is the seat of the soul and psychic faculties.

Is it normal and accepted for some practitioners to intercede on a new member's behalf to ask spirits to help them or show themselves to the initiate so that their development and faith will strengthen itself? That has always been my problem with taking to faith; I can't do it if I haven't communicated directly with whatever entity it is I am expected to follow and obey. If so, I'm not sure how effective it would really be through the Internet, but could anyone help me or ask their friends in the spirit world to help me out and give me some guidance? I am eager to learn more and am willing to take all the help and instruction I can get; I've become bored with the material world and really want to see what else is out there beyond the physical...

Thanks in advance for any advice you may be able to give.

 

[edw211lehigh]

"Now about the dedication: imagine you have a girlfriend and want to ask her about a deep relationship with you but at the same time you don't want to be committed to her. Do you think she will accept that or that you'll really going to have a deep relationship this way??That's basically what you're asking about the dedication ritual ... Same thing with a relationship with Satan. Sure you can have a relationship with Him, but not a deep one unless you have done the dedication ritual."

First off, thank you for your reply. I see your point here, but that isn't really what I meant. Perhaps I didn't explain myself very well; in your analogy, you use a girlfriend as an example. It isn't a matter of wanting a relationship, but not being committed.

If we want to take that analogy further, this is what I meant: Would you ask a girl to be in a relationship with you or commit yourself to her completely if you had never so much as spoken a word to her before? It would seem rushed, foundationless, and presumptuous, wouldn't it? That's more of what I'm getting at.

It seems like a very solemn and serious rite, and I have reservations about performing it with no prior communication with the being I'm dedicating myself to. Does that more sense? Hopefully, I've explained it a bit better now.

"And lastly, no, it's been said on the site that there are absolutely no mediators in Satanism. If you want to ask something the Gods, you do that by yourself. Someone else doing that doesn't improve the chance of getting a successful response. The Gods (who are not spirits BTW but extraterrestrial beings whith physical bodies) are very busy as well."

Thank you for this direct and concise answer.