I know someone who's name is Stephen. He is open to Satanism and wants to join us, but he has a very scientific mind, and needs proof. He said a major event happened in his life, and to prove that demons exist, he wants me to ask one what happened,to prove that they are real. I can telepathically contact them, but it is still hard for me. Can anyone else try to ask a demon what major event happened to him recently? This will decide whether or not he will become one of Enki or not.
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kurenaii60
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I think that a Demon couldn't know that either, because they don't check everything that happens in the life of a person who is without. They mainly guard Satanists and those that were in the past lives with Them.
kurenaii60
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Satanism doesn't depend in the existance of the Gods, but in the willingness to empower one's soul through power meditation, yoga and other things. If he knows that the Gods are real but is lazy enough to meditate and other things then Satanism is not for him again, nor he ever contact the Gods or get help from Them because Satan helps those who help themselves. Even the Gods teach us how to empower ourselves, they don't do xian-style miracles to convert people. Thats what xianity does, not Satanism. Satanism is about independance.
I wouldn't bother waste a God's time (they are very busy,remember) just because this guy wants it. Tell him to meditate and empower himself, and open his astral senses because thats the first priority and the foundation of Satanism. And he will see and communicate with the Gods in time, it doesn't matter as much as reaching Godhead anyway.
I wouldn't bother waste a God's time (they are very busy,remember) just because this guy wants it. Tell him to meditate and empower himself, and open his astral senses because thats the first priority and the foundation of Satanism. And he will see and communicate with the Gods in time, it doesn't matter as much as reaching Godhead anyway.
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The fact that he needs this sort of proofs tells me that he isn't one for Enki, at least not yet. You say he has a scientific mind. That does not make one smart. Having a mind and knowladge of all that is around us is what makes us smart, not only that, but wise. He needs to find and experiance the Gods on his own, as we all do/have, to truly rid the veil of lies.
Let him find his own way. Maybe help him out by telling him your experiances with the Gods, compare them to that of a xtian. The fact that they respond where as the xtian thoughtform does not. We all must discover for ourselves.
Praise Thee, Morning Star! Praise the Gods!
-En Haradren Amlug.
Let him find his own way. Maybe help him out by telling him your experiances with the Gods, compare them to that of a xtian. The fact that they respond where as the xtian thoughtform does not. We all must discover for ourselves.
Praise Thee, Morning Star! Praise the Gods!
-En Haradren Amlug.
kurenaii60
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Yes, I agree. His mind is dogmatic and pseudo-scientific, not scientific as this is the opposite of the scientific method.
From Kikipedia:
"A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses."
If he truly followed this, he would awaken his astral senses and make observations about the Demons and also test illusionary effects to see if this is an illusion. If one labels something they haven't experienced as "hallucination" or something else, they don't use the scientific method nor do they have a scientific mind.
From Kikipedia:
"A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses."
If he truly followed this, he would awaken his astral senses and make observations about the Demons and also test illusionary effects to see if this is an illusion. If one labels something they haven't experienced as "hallucination" or something else, they don't use the scientific method nor do they have a scientific mind.
kurenaii60
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Here's more about that, and how this guy isn't really scientific:
"To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning."
What does empirical mean:
"The word "empirical" denotes information gained by means of observation, experience, or experiment.[1] A central concept in science and the scientific method is that all evidence must be empirical, or empirically based, that is, dependent on evidence or consequences that are observable by the senses"
In this case, it is observed by one's ASTRAL SENSES. Now, since asking a God to tell something he knows, this isn't really empirical (remember, this means based on EXPERIENCE) evidence, nor is it observable. Therefore, this is not scientific proof.
The only way to gather this type of evidence, is like I said, to awaken your astral senses and see and hear and contact the Gods. And observe Them using your astral senses.
"To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning."
What does empirical mean:
"The word "empirical" denotes information gained by means of observation, experience, or experiment.[1] A central concept in science and the scientific method is that all evidence must be empirical, or empirically based, that is, dependent on evidence or consequences that are observable by the senses"
In this case, it is observed by one's ASTRAL SENSES. Now, since asking a God to tell something he knows, this isn't really empirical (remember, this means based on EXPERIENCE) evidence, nor is it observable. Therefore, this is not scientific proof.
The only way to gather this type of evidence, is like I said, to awaken your astral senses and see and hear and contact the Gods. And observe Them using your astral senses.
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Having a scientific mind is very important. In the creation story on the JoS it mentions Enki/Satan as a scientist creating man. When you approach something scientifically, this helps you to think from a smarter perspective, and most importantly to focus on a subject, without being dogged down by the religious profile. It doesn't allow dogma, but flexibility; do not confuse those.
When you are looking for proof, it helps you to believe in Satan, because this is largely one of the reasons you people despise Christianity? Since Satan can show where the other religions fail to have something to show for..... PROOF is very important. If you read on the JoS site, it mentions I think it was Pythia or someone doing a reading for someone, because a demon came along. This isn't much different than what this Stephen individual is asking.
When you are looking for proof, it helps you to believe in Satan, because this is largely one of the reasons you people despise Christianity? Since Satan can show where the other religions fail to have something to show for..... PROOF is very important. If you read on the JoS site, it mentions I think it was Pythia or someone doing a reading for someone, because a demon came along. This isn't much different than what this Stephen individual is asking.
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It is not your job to "prove" to this guy that Satanism is real. That is something that one finds for themselves. If he is not willing to make the effort to try and find this out for himself, then leave him. If he really is interested, he will. All you can do is share the knowledge that you have, and people can either take it or leave it. Its their choice and it is up to them. We are not here to "prove" to people that this is real. They have to prove it to themselves. This is a journey one must begin on ones own. Once dedicated, you exeprience more than a ton of proof that this definitely is real, through Power Meditation, interacting with the Gods, experiencing things you never experienced before and generally through advancing Spiritually. Things start to happen in your life that didnt happen before, and this is proof in itself. I say once dedicated, because it is not wise to "dabble". I am certain that the Demons would also not be willing to play to this persons desires, they are exceptionally busy, powerful beings who wont waste their time and energy on someone who does not want to help themselves and find things out for themselves. Tell him that the proof is out there, waiting for him to experience it if he so wishes. Its his choice. Its a choice we all made, on our own. Hail Father Satan!!
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I know someone who's name is Stephen. He is open to Satanism and wants to join us, but he has a very scientific mind, and needs proof. He said a major event happened in his life, and to prove that demons exist, he wants me to ask one what happened,to prove that they are real. I can telepathically contact them, but it is still hard for me. Can anyone else try to ask a demon what major event happened to him recently? This will decide whether or not he will become one of Enki or not.
From: Lord <lordnoxeroth@...
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Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 4:47:30 AM
Subject: [HellsArmy666] Bringing in New Members
I know someone who's name is Stephen. He is open to Satanism and wants to join us, but he has a very scientific mind, and needs proof. He said a major event happened in his life, and to prove that demons exist, he wants me to ask one what happened,to prove that they are real. I can telepathically contact them, but it is still hard for me. Can anyone else try to ask a demon what major event happened to him recently? This will decide whether or not he will become one of Enki or not.
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The fact that he needs this sort of proofs tells me that he isn't one for Enki, at least not yet. You say he has a scientific mind. That does not make one smart. Having a mind and knowladge of all that is around us is what makes us smart, not only that, but wise. He needs to find and experiance the Gods on his own, as we all do/have, to truly rid the veil of lies.
Let him find his own way. Maybe help him out by telling him your experiances with the Gods, compare them to that of a xtian. The fact that they respond where as the xtian thoughtform does not. We all must discover for ourselves.
Praise Thee, Morning Star! Praise the Gods!
-En Haradren Amlug.
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Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 9:12:41 AM
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The fact that he needs this sort of proofs tells me that he isn't one for Enki, at least not yet. You say he has a scientific mind. That does not make one smart. Having a mind and knowladge of all that is around us is what makes us smart, not only that, but wise. He needs to find and experiance the Gods on his own, as we all do/have, to truly rid the veil of lies.
Let him find his own way. Maybe help him out by telling him your experiances with the Gods, compare them to that of a xtian. The fact that they respond where as the xtian thoughtform does not. We all must discover for ourselves.
Praise Thee, Morning Star! Praise the Gods!
-En Haradren Amlug.
Satanic_viking
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It seems people have taken what i said wrong .
I agree with you wholey here.
The point i was trying to get accross is that one has to make these kind of decisions for themselves. Satan has been showing me alot about the importance of self reliance. Pointing out the fact that it is extremely important.
My point was that i was trying to make in my first post is that at the end of the day, if this person gets the proof they want, what is ultimatly going to decide it for them is their own experiances with the Gods.
What is it that made you Know the truth that is out Father? I for one didn't know Enki was the true God from reading the JoS alone, I had experance with him and the Gods. I saw Enki's gifts, i talked to them. This is what makes it.
Praise the True Gods of Old!
-En Haradren Amlug.
.I agree with you wholey here.
The point i was trying to get accross is that one has to make these kind of decisions for themselves. Satan has been showing me alot about the importance of self reliance. Pointing out the fact that it is extremely important.
My point was that i was trying to make in my first post is that at the end of the day, if this person gets the proof they want, what is ultimatly going to decide it for them is their own experiances with the Gods.
What is it that made you Know the truth that is out Father? I for one didn't know Enki was the true God from reading the JoS alone, I had experance with him and the Gods. I saw Enki's gifts, i talked to them. This is what makes it.
Praise the True Gods of Old!
-En Haradren Amlug.
Satanic_viking
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I stand very well corrected
But your point is the same as mine. When i said scientific i meant he only wants raw proof, a physical anomoly to appear for him, so to speak. To truely witness the greatness of the Gods, one must open themselves and expeirance them on their own.
Hail Enki!
But your point is the same as mine. When i said scientific i meant he only wants raw proof, a physical anomoly to appear for him, so to speak. To truely witness the greatness of the Gods, one must open themselves and expeirance them on their own.
Hail Enki!
--- In , "kurenaii60" <kurenaii60@... wrote:
Here's more about that, and how this guy isn't really scientific:
"To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning."
What does empirical mean:
"The word "empirical" denotes information gained by means of observation, experience, or experiment.[1] A central concept in science and the scientific method is that all evidence must be empirical, or empirically based, that is, dependent on evidence or consequences that are observable by the senses"
In this case, it is observed by one's ASTRAL SENSES. Now, since asking a God to tell something he knows, this isn't really empirical (remember, this means based on EXPERIENCE) evidence, nor is it observable. Therefore, this is not scientific proof.
The only way to gather this type of evidence, is like I said, to awaken your astral senses and see and hear and contact the Gods. And observe Them using your astral senses.
--- In , "kurenaii60" <kurenaii60@ wrote:
Yes, I agree. His mind is dogmatic and pseudo-scientific, not scientific as this is the opposite of the scientific method.
From Kikipedia:
"A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses."
If he truly followed this, he would awaken his astral senses and make observations about the Demons and also test illusionary effects to see if this is an illusion. If one labels something they haven't experienced as "hallucination" or something else, they don't use the scientific method nor do they have a scientific mind.
--- In , "Satanic_viking" <hecktic_shadow@ wrote:
The fact that he needs this sort of proofs tells me that he isn't one for Enki, at least not yet. You say he has a scientific mind. That does not make one smart. Having a mind and knowladge of all that is around us is what makes us smart, not only that, but wise. He needs to find and experiance the Gods on his own, as we all do/have, to truly rid the veil of lies.
Let him find his own way. Maybe help him out by telling him your experiances with the Gods, compare them to that of a xtian. The fact that they respond where as the xtian thoughtform does not. We all must discover for ourselves.
Praise Thee, Morning Star! Praise the Gods!
-En Haradren Amlug.
--- In , "Lord" <lordnoxeroth@ wrote:
I know someone who's name is Stephen. He is open to Satanism and wants to join us, but he has a very scientific mind, and needs proof. He said a major event happened in his life, and to prove that demons exist, he wants me to ask one what happened,to prove that they are real. I can telepathically contact them, but it is still hard for me. Can anyone else try to ask a demon what major event happened to him recently? This will decide whether or not he will become one of Enki or not.
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