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vabzirteloch

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I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
Almost everyone here is dealing with situations like yours. Personally, I live in a xian household and it's a daily nightmare. I come from a xian orthodox background and I'm telling you, orthodoxs, are of the worst types of xians out there. I know that living a double life is really frustrating but telling people about your beliefs is not an option. Just don't. Your problems will become way more. The enemy uses these people against us because they know we can't run away from them. I was never a secretive person but since I came to Satanism I had to develop this trait. And I have to lie on a daily basis. Sometimes I even get mad out of nowhere about the way we have to live and the fact that we have to hide and worry all the time about getting caught and shit like we are criminals or something. We are the ones who are working for the betterment of this world and unfortunately, we have to do it secretly. It's just frustrating.

So, you either learn to bear with them or use magick. At some point the people you cannot run away from will become 100% puppets of the enemy. The more you advance, the more problems these people are going to be causing you. Never back down though. Take this as a clarification that you are doing what you have to do. Ignore them if possible but never give up and never say 'I'll wait till I'm out of here'. Always do what you have to do. This is a war and some Satanists are in way more serious situations. As for the vibrations, I had to do them mentally for some time and still I've felt the effects. You can do them outdoors or when there is no one home.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@... wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
Silence is golden in the respect.

Your not in the position to be telling "those without" about your relations with Satan or the other Gods.

Destruction Ritual against the Juden??? Hell no that has to be kept to yourself, and with other SS.

Even my son knows to keep that shit under wraps!!
Especially when dealing with doctors, teachers, and other authority figures or legal authorities.

It seems lonely, but this is an individual path, and most mundane sheeple cannot handle it. Thats my take on it. There are those who understand how you feel, but maybe they have not been found by you in person. Keep this on the net now, socialize and network with other SS.

hailz

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@... wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
Look, i am in the same way as you are at this moment. I need to keep quiet about everything i do and any opportunity i get to do my meditations, i take it. I suggest you continue to keep gonig with being secretive. Why? Because you do not know what those with out can do. My parents has threaten me with sending me to psychristiatist[how ever you spell that] and all that bull shit. I believe until i grow older to move out of the house or apparment i can stop being secretive. I am in the same situation as you.

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@... wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
That is very true Black Sun, sometimes it feels like my parents are the pieces of a chess game and the enemy trying to "check and mate" me. I also get angry out of no where when i can not do my own stuff because they are where i am and i need to do a lot of things.

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "blacksun1142" <blacksun1142@... wrote:

Almost everyone here is dealing with situations like yours. Personally, I live in a xian household and it's a daily nightmare. I come from a xian orthodox background and I'm telling you, orthodoxs, are of the worst types of xians out there. I know that living a double life is really frustrating but telling people about your beliefs is not an option. Just don't. Your problems will become way more. The enemy uses these people against us because they know we can't run away from them. I was never a secretive person but since I came to Satanism I had to develop this trait. And I have to lie on a daily basis. Sometimes I even get mad out of nowhere about the way we have to live and the fact that we have to hide and worry all the time about getting caught and shit like we are criminals or something. We are the ones who are working for the betterment of this world and unfortunately, we have to do it secretly. It's just frustrating.

So, you either learn to bear with them or use magick. At some point the people you cannot run away from will become 100% puppets of the enemy. The more you advance, the more problems these people are going to be causing you. Never back down though. Take this as a clarification that you are doing what you have to do. Ignore them if possible but never give up and never say 'I'll wait till I'm out of here'. Always do what you have to do. This is a war and some Satanists are in way more serious situations. As for the vibrations, I had to do them mentally for some time and still I've felt the effects. You can do them outdoors or when there is no one home.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@ wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
My husband and I have to do the same. Luckily, we do not live in the same house as the zion puppets we are related to. I thank Father for this fact daily. I also experience the bursts of anger at our situation, but then I remember that what the Jewsus freaks don't know can't hurt us. I will stay hidden in the shadows and work to destroy them even as they delude themselves into thinking they've achieved world domination. Hail Father Satan!
 
It used to be like this last year for me. I asked Satan to PLEASE give me time and grounds to do my meditations, He did, though the more pressure and consistency I had in my meds, I saw His help become vaster, through my own Powers too. Back Then I just did 10 minutes or so. 6 God name vibrations on the chakras, align, some breaths. I was genuinely interested and I didn't back the fuck down. I had to hide my faith too. Still I do, as its none's bussiness to know. When I suddenly disappeared from my 'social circles' and 'friends' all they did was talk shit behind my back 24/7 etc. I did not care. I had Satan. They felt the air of Satan around me and they probably were fucking jealous.

When I couldn't do vibrations, I placed a fucking pillow in front of my mouth and I did these. I kid you not.

I repeadetly was attacked, because people unconsciously or something, by the enemy, just attacked me. I gave not a fuck. I suffered greatly, from family members, even infiltrators and insane drones, self proclaimed SS. I was oppressed and attacked etc, slandered from the world. I had to lie, lie, lie and this wasn't my nature anyways. Though through this I realized how freaking rotten the world was, like literally. Are these whores so subconsciously and unconsciously jealous and concerned, that they will rentlessly attack me. Then I will attack back. I did more meditation, I came closer to Satan, mistake and error, true/false, lesson/teaching attitude. I attacked and I still attack the kikes, the enemies of Satan. On top of everything else, I had the cleaning of the mental dross, severe bad luck and low money when I first joined. Through meditation I pulled through, as Satan saw I was dead serious. I had mental and spiritual terrorism happen to me almost daily. The problems were not only of a logical nature, but of a spiritual nature that I can't really write down. I got tested to the bone in very fucked up ways.

Well, today is not back then. I am healed, balanced, renewed, closer to Satan than ever and...They are the ones giving their testimony to me, I am the one to terrorize if threatened, I am the supressor of their lies and I am their fucking damnation. They are in constant fear of me, not the other way around. I started off like anyone else, really. Due to sensitivity and immaturity or not being a born liar, asshole and deceiver like these bitches were, I had much mental and emotional damage or whatever. The wheel has turned and Satan gave power to this "common man".

You know what to do? Retain your secrecy and remove the guilt. They are the blind ones, they are the fools, they are the disease and you owe apology or explanation to none. Play their game good, pretend and know that one day, you will be out there. Just not today or tommorow, but soon we will all be.

Shoooooosh. :) Silence is Golden. We are the Truth and we owe nothing. Remember that hadn't it been for Satan, they would never even have life. So imagine how foolish they are. I guess anyone deserves their fate.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@... wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
I was being threatened with the psychiatrist bullshit as well. My parents were telling me that I had issues and that I needed professional help because I was being a secretive loner. I used to hang out a lot and I was always getting into trouble, but when I started taking Satanism seriously I quieted all the bullshit and I was spending all my time in my room. That's when the psychologist shit began. I came to Satanism at the age of 14 and these years have not been easy. This psychological war would go on and on for days. And then again. Anyone who is working on a higher purpose and wants to do something productive with their lives is considered to be abnormal and a psycho.

My two cents to those who are dealing with such problems is to always bear in mind that all these are enemy tactics and never buy to them. Keep on working and advancing. Never take the enemy's puppets' words seriously. Their only purpose is to mess you up, misguide you, cause doubt and make you think that you are a psycho and that everything you stand for is a lie. They just want to turn you against Satan. Things will get worse and then they'll get better.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "C Y" <yc28@... wrote:

Look, i am in the same way as you are at this moment. I need to keep quiet about everything i do and any opportunity i get to do my meditations, i take it. I suggest you continue to keep gonig with being secretive. Why? Because you do not know what those with out can do. My parents has threaten me with sending me to psychristiatist[how ever you spell that] and all that bull shit. I believe until i grow older to move out of the house or apparment i can stop being secretive. I am in the same situation as you.

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@ wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
Yeah, living in a different place than your non-SS family is a solution, this is one of my goals for the near future, to move from my parents. And I experience these anger outbursts too.

One time in the summer I was meditating, my parents weren't home, so I could enjoy the opportunity, until my grandma knocked on the door (we live in the same house) with a totally pointless question (her fucking TV didn't work and she wanted me to do something about it). I replied that I'll check it out later, and that I have been sleeping and she woke me up. She apologized, I closed the door, and then I just exploded in fury, I yelled for at least 5 minutes, I was fucking angry at her for disturbing me with this when I was meditating.

So it would be really nice to move to another house, where I live alone and don't have to bear this shit.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@... wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
Well... I dont know what is your financial situation but I suggest you to buy something( an apartment or house) or to keep your papers ( such as black book) in some palce in which no one could find them.

I am in the same situation. But I am planning to buy something after I turn 18 and to keep my things there.

As for the part with being alone... You could meet with others satanist but only if you are 100% sure they are not infiltrators.
Or you can establish a Satanic Coven.

It all depends to you.


Hail Satan!




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@... wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
Thank u Hooded Cobra (hc) for sharing.

I have seen u shine more than once in ur responses and posts, and I feel that I can relate to ur passion.

I was practically begging to be given a website dedicated to Satan when it was given to me, and I didn't even know it.

I was working constantly on Yahoo Answeers (YA) to question and argue against xianity and it's retardation.

As an anti-xian, I learned to be subtle when necessary, when to be silent when wise, and to flat-out lie convincingly when necessary.

Before I dedicated, I was working alone, non-Satanic, as an atheist really--and had infiltrated a certain xian organization. I sought doubters and those who might be seeking truth. One of the benefits of me being around them was practicing the Mandarin I was learning, as it was/is a Chinese christian church. I pretended to pray with them, I even sang with them and took their nasty sacrament, which was always a joke to me. I found one young man who looked up to me, and still does, and shared a few of my lyrics with him that had some subtle and not-so-subtle anti-xian statements and anti-xian concepts. He loved them and even shared them with some of his friends at school.

After dedicating, it sickened me to be there with them in prayer or songs of praise to their false god. So I would find ways and reasons to dismiss myself from those situations. By the time I had dedicated, I had already been accepted as an assistant Sunday-school teacher for the middle-schoolers. They are actually a great group of kids, and they won my heart, and I theirs.

I have found a way to become further distant myself from them though--now I don't attend with them at all, but I visit afterwards, and I keep their hearts. And when the time is right, Satan will tell me when I shall ask a series of questions of select individuals in private. One of the last ones being "if it were possible that all or most of xianity AND judaism were plagarized religions would u want to know?". "If there were a definite way to find out, would u still search the truth"

Certain projects are projects of time and patience.

I seem to have great control of my energies. . . Before I dedicated, the jehovah witnesses--whom I have long dispised would come up to me while I passed them on the college campus. After I dedicated, they very much avoided me and I would walk closer to their booth than before. I have caused jews and their associates to leave my presence with telepathy--Satanic blue flames. And devout xians to unfriend me more overtly--by wearing an "I (heart) Jesus/ Jesus (heart) You" t-shirt and crossing out the hearts with black sharpie and writing "copy-cat demi-god" with an arrow pointing to "Jesus". Man, that felt GREAT and extremely liberating to wear that in public. At college and on the LA bus lines. I would have never done it as just a spiritual anti-xian, but being a Spiritual Satanist has given me much courage to spit in the face of xian stupidity.

Though, I have learned that sometimes it is better to be covert than overt.

And yes, I have gone through my deal of suffering and coming to realize that all I knew was lies--thats damaging to the psyche. Most people won't allow their minds to grow through that consideration because it's painful. But I put Truth above all, as u have, and became the better for it. Yes, it took a lot of time--about 7 years for me, from age 18-25 to completely purge myself and my mentality of anti-life xian values--deeply imbedded in American society I may add. Then 2 years later, I come across JoS, and I was just ready, already very spiritually strong, already very much anit-xian, already knowledgeable to many subjects on JoS--so it was mostly review of what I had studied from underground sources for several years. My meditations became like an electric guitar that was first played with no amplifier, (very little/weak sound) to one that was being played with concert speakers and amps. I occasionally smoked weed before but very much lost my ability to do so afterwards due to becoming incapacitated/vegetablized after smoking--after I dedicated.

As the HPs advise, I advise the same: avoid the smoking/ingestion of mind altering substances. They hinder a lot more than they help. Maybe they offer the illusion of help, but trust me, it's REALLY better to meditate and alter ur consciousness on purpose and in SOME type of control. I know, some trance-journies can be scary, but at least u can come back from them if ur not under the influence. Some ppl go in under the influence, and never return to reality in a functional manner. I call it "drug-induced psychoses" but psychitrists will often not acknowledge the drug-inducement part--perhaps in order to prevent CURING people rather than doing what they normally do--"treat a disease/condition"

Sorry for getting off track. But yes, keep ur secrets and learn to be subtle. Study other subjects as well as SS so u can actually comment on what u do if asked. "I study, exercise and meditate". "I like to study ancient religions and cultures". "I do yoga-type of meditations". "I appreciate nature". "I enjoy nature in solitude"--"it makes me feel at peace"

Never be open about ur destruction rituals, nor ur hate for the enemy--esp not to xian-zionists.

U can call ur Satanic breathing exercises "yoga-breathing exercises"

Publicly acceptable substitions are key. There is great wisdom in subtelity, and the snake has always represented subtelity. ;)

When u become an adult, u will gain a little more freedom. . . Depending on where/who u work with. Heheh if ur a death metal rockstar u can openly speak out/sing/scream/whisper in song against xianity and the disease (zionists) intelligently or not and many will love u for it.

--Blue Earth

HAIL SATAN.


-- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hoodedcobra666" <hoodedcobra666@... wrote:
It used to be like this last year for me. I asked Satan to PLEASE give me time and grounds to do my meditations, He did, though the more pressure and consistency I had in my meds, I saw His help become vaster, through my own Powers too. Back Then I just did 10 minutes or so. 6 God name vibrations on the chakras, align, some breaths. I was genuinely interested and I didn't back the fuck down. I had to hide my faith too. Still I do, as its none's bussiness to know. When I suddenly disappeared from my 'social circles' and 'friends' all they did was talk shit behind my back 24/7 etc. I did not care. I had Satan. They felt the air of Satan around me and they probably were fucking jealous.

When I couldn't do vibrations, I placed a fucking pillow in front of my mouth and I did these. I kid you not.

I repeadetly was attacked, because people unconsciously or something, by the enemy, just attacked me. I gave not a fuck. I suffered greatly, from family members, even infiltrators and insane drones, self proclaimed SS. I was oppressed and attacked etc, slandered from the world. I had to lie, lie, lie and this wasn't my nature anyways. Though through this I realized how freaking rotten the world was, like literally. Are these whores so subconsciously and unconsciously jealous and concerned, that they will rentlessly attack me. Then I will attack back. I did more meditation, I came closer to Satan, mistake and error, true/false, lesson/teaching attitude. I attacked and I still attack the kikes, the enemies of Satan. On top of everything else, I had the cleaning of the mental dross, severe bad luck and low money when I first joined. Through meditation I pulled through, as Satan saw I was dead serious. I had mental and spiritual terrorism happen to me almost daily. The problems were not only of a logical nature, but of a spiritual nature that I can't really write down. I got tested to the bone in very fucked up ways.

Well, today is not back then. I am healed, balanced, renewed, closer to Satan than ever and...They are the ones giving their testimony to me, I am the one to terrorize if threatened, I am the supressor of their lies and I am their fucking damnation. They are in constant fear of me, not the other way around. I started off like anyone else, really. Due to sensitivity and immaturity or not being a born liar, asshole and deceiver like these bitches were, I had much mental and emotional damage or whatever. The wheel has turned and Satan gave power to this "common man".

You know what to do? Retain your secrecy and remove the guilt. They are the blind ones, they are the fools, they are the disease and you owe apology or explanation to none. Play their game good, pretend and know that one day, you will be out there. Just not today or tommorow, but soon we will all be.

Shoooooosh. :) Silence is Golden. We are the Truth and we owe nothing. Remember that hadn't it been for Satan, they would never even have life. So imagine how foolish they are. I guess anyone deserves their fate.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@ wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
I used Iza for 40 days to prevent one particular family member of mine from being a nuisance.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "C Y" <yc28@... wrote:

That is very true Black Sun, sometimes it feels like my parents are the pieces of a chess game and the enemy trying to "check and mate" me. I also get angry out of no where when i can not do my own stuff because they are where i am and i need to do a lot of things.

Hail Satan!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "blacksun1142" <blacksun1142@ wrote:

Almost everyone here is dealing with situations like yours. Personally, I live in a xian household and it's a daily nightmare. I come from a xian orthodox background and I'm telling you, orthodoxs, are of the worst types of xians out there. I know that living a double life is really frustrating but telling people about your beliefs is not an option. Just don't. Your problems will become way more. The enemy uses these people against us because they know we can't run away from them. I was never a secretive person but since I came to Satanism I had to develop this trait. And I have to lie on a daily basis. Sometimes I even get mad out of nowhere about the way we have to live and the fact that we have to hide and worry all the time about getting caught and shit like we are criminals or something. We are the ones who are working for the betterment of this world and unfortunately, we have to do it secretly. It's just frustrating.

So, you either learn to bear with them or use magick. At some point the people you cannot run away from will become 100% puppets of the enemy. The more you advance, the more problems these people are going to be causing you. Never back down though. Take this as a clarification that you are doing what you have to do. Ignore them if possible but never give up and never say 'I'll wait till I'm out of here'. Always do what you have to do. This is a war and some Satanists are in way more serious situations. As for the vibrations, I had to do them mentally for some time and still I've felt the effects. You can do them outdoors or when there is no one home.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@ wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
<td val[/IMG]Its wise in your situation to keep being secretive. Yes its a lonely path but as you advance Satan will bring into your life SS friends. The enemy is using ignorant kikes to suppress the truth. In my culture if u r caught practicing SS people can even stone you to death. But we cant give up the truth because of a bunch of ignorant fools. Remember those who keep his secrets shall receive the fulfilment of His promises. Utilise every opportunity when u can meditate. Create such opportunities for yourself. You are on the right path. Hail Satan!


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To: JoyofSatan666@yahoogroups com <[email protected]; blacksun1142@... <blacksun1142@...;
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Being secretive
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<td val[/IMG]So true the enemy uses weak people against us all the time.


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From: blacksun1142 <blacksun1142@...;
To: <[email protected];
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Being secretive
Sent: Mon, Oct 22, 2012 5:07:43 PM

<td val[/IMG]   Almost everyone here is dealing with situations like yours. Personally, I live in a xian household and it's a daily nightmare. I come from a xian orthodox background and I'm telling you, orthodoxs, are of the worst types of xians out there. I know that living a double life is really frustrating but telling people about your beliefs is not an option. Just don't. Your problems will become way more. The enemy uses these people against us because they know we can't run away from them. I was never a secretive person but since I came to Satanism I had to develop this trait. And I have to lie on a daily basis. Sometimes I even get mad out of nowhere about the way we have to live and the fact that we have to hide and worry all the time about getting caught and shit like we are criminals or something. We are the ones who are working for the betterment of this world and unfortunately, we have to do it secretly. It's just frustrating.

So, you either learn to bear with them or use magick. At some point the people you cannot run away from will become 100% puppets of the enemy. The more you advance, the more problems these people are going to be causing you. Never back down though. Take this as a clarification that you are doing what you have to do. Ignore them if possible but never give up and never say 'I'll wait till I'm out of here'. Always do what you have to do. This is a war and some Satanists are in way more serious situations. As for the vibrations, I had to do them mentally for some time and still I've felt the effects. You can do them outdoors or when there is no one home.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "vabzirteloch" <vabzirteloch@... wrote:

I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing &#8211; keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
[/TD]
[/TD]
 
i was also and still kind of am in the same situation, see my parents and siblings that i lived with are xian and attend church regularly. i hated having to live with them because it was hard to meditate, and like all of you i had to lie a lot. but eventually my mother got angry with me and told me i couldn't live there anymore and she kicked me out. keep in mind i am 17 so its not like i have a job that i can support myself with. anyway, eventually my grandpa heard about it and he offerd for me to live with him so that is where i am now. and it is extreamly easier to get privacy to meditate, but the walls here are paper thin if you talk in a regular voice everyone can here you in there rooms so i cannot do vibrations here. the people i live with are not xian(from what i can tell, i have not asked) but it is much better than living in a xian home, although it is country here instead of city and there are is a much higher concentration of christians in my new school. i think 85% of the people are christian at least, probably more, and i had to leave one very trusted friend for the time being, but it is WORTH IT.  I advise any of you to try and find any relative you trust to see if you can live with them if you think it will be easier to meditate and have privacy. since it's a relative your parents may acually be okay with this just try to think of an excuse that would be good for your situation, school would be better for your future etc. and once you can move out you wont have to worry about getting privacy anymore :)  goodluck to all of you, my true family. Hail Satan!!! 

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM, vabzirteloch <vabzirteloch@... wrote:
  I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing &#8211; keeping their secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian) suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 
you can try to program your aura to attract another SS or atleast someone with an open mind. (which is obviously going to be a none xian.)
most importantly stay strong my brother. our patience will pay off. espicially when the time comes to come out to the public. :)

HAIL FATHER SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Zach Munch <420munch@... wrote:

i was also and still kind of am in the same situation, see my parents and
siblings that i lived with are xian and attend church regularly. i hated
having to live with them because it was hard to meditate, and like all of
you i had to lie a lot. but eventually my mother got angry with me and told
me i couldn't live there anymore and she kicked me out. keep in mind i am
17 so its not like i have a job that i can support myself with. anyway,
eventually my grandpa heard about it and he offerd for me to live with him
so that is where i am now. and it is extreamly easier to get privacy to
meditate, but the walls here are paper thin if you talk in a regular voice
everyone can here you in there rooms so i cannot do vibrations here. the
people i live with are not xian(from what i can tell, i have not asked) but
it is much better than living in a xian home, although it is country here
instead of city and there are is a much higher concentration of christians
in my new school. i think 85% of the people are christian at least,
probably more, and i had to leave one very trusted friend for the time
being, but it is WORTH IT.

I advise any of you to try and find any relative you trust to see if you
can live with them *if you think it will be easier to meditate and have
privacy*. since it's a relative your parents may acually be okay with this
just try to think of an excuse that would be good for your situation,
school would be better for your future etc. and once you can move out you
wont have to worry about getting privacy anymore :)

goodluck to all of you, my true family.

Hail Satan!!!

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM, vabzirteloch <[email protected]:

**


I'm sure most of you who still live with their parents or relatives or
other non-SS people, are struggling with this thing – keeping their
secrets.

I live with my parents, and since I have become a Satanist, I practically
lead a double life. In order to keep my secrets (the greatest of them is me
being a Satanist), I have to do a lot of things quietly, when the others
are asleep, or they aren't home. I have always been secretive, but recently
it's just killing me. I can't vibrate runes and mantras aloud, because the
others will hear me and ask questions. [Even Satan (or my Guradian)
suggested to me that I should use the power of sound for spiritual
advancement, but it's kinda impossible for me with circumstances like
these.] But if they ask questions, I have to lie in order to keep my
secrets. I hate to lie to people, because the more I lie, the more lies I
need to cover the former lies...

This is one of the reasons I alienated from people. What if they ask what
I do in my free time? I can't say 'Oh, I worship Satan, and work death
rituals against jews.'
Or maybe I'm overreacting this?

I think if I told these things to my family and friends, my life would be
ruined. None of my relations with these people would be the same from that
moment, they would either hate me, or be afraid of me, or laugh at me.

Coming out to the open would be a suicide; but being secretive is fucking
lonely. I'm afraid to get to know new people, because the more closer we
would get to each other, the more they would find out about me, and
eventually my secrets would be on the plate. But eventually it's inevitable
to share your life with someone (like a wife or something...) and her/his
reaction is another big problem...

Should I tell them everything? Never. Should I continue to lead my secret
life this way?
What the fuck should I do guys?

Any intelligent comment appreciated.

Vabzir Teloch
HAIL SATAN!!!
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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