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Be Outsider No More

AvatarPriest - Alexandros Iowno2 min to read

I know I have done this, I spent years reading the forums yet not ever I have wrote a message here (on the older-older forums even). I waited for the Clergy posts, would have life changing monologue stimulated by it and most importantly also, I loved reading all of the members opinions, values and inputs. I felt part of it in full, only later as I actually started participating here, I realized back then I was NOT part of it. I was like a ghost, and yet the true beauty of it is by being here, with an account, with an opinion, with a voice, with a personality, good or bad. That is valuable and sincere.

Listen, as you are, you are accepted. We all have fundamental faults, fears, lackings, talents and proud elements. We are unique and special and so more, actually not, both at the same time like a paradox. What defines all of this is our bravery to do above our comfort level, which is here, come with me, take my hand and our members hand, and introduce yourself.

Newer members and even older ones think their input and value is not high or minimal. This is such a bullshit lie. Truth is, you matter and have value, but you must accept it and progress.

I want you here, and you want this as well. Community must set forth in flowering and each must take the blessings of the Gods. Divinity alloted itself in this forum but one must enter the door to receive.

I await, and thank you for being here. Much love and blessings!


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#21

I often stay quiet and feel like I don't have much to say. In real life or here. Maybe a result of my upbringing; feeling like I'm not being listened to and understood properly so there's no point to speak.

There's a balance between being a chatty Cathy and totally shut in but I'm not sure how to work on it.

I can relate. Doing what you're doing now is a good start. Simply express yourself.

What is right and wrong?
What is the meaning of our existence?
How should you live your life, according to Nature and the Gods?
Find out here:
https://templeofzeus.org/EthicsOftheGods

Join us in the Temple, we engage in blessings and group rituals to the Gods:
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/vultus-templorum-outreach-and-temple-live-rituals.301975/

#22

I waited for the Clergy posts, would have life changing monologue stimulated by it and most importantly also, I loved reading all of the members opinions, values and inputs. I felt part of it in full, only later as I actually started participating here, I realized back then I was NOT part of it. I was like a ghost, and yet the true beauty of it is by being here, with an account, with an opinion, with a voice, with a personality, good or bad. That is valuable and sincere.

This was me, for some years. I checked the forums daily, read a sermon by HPS Pythia while eating breakfast, thought about through the rest of the day, yet never participated. Never commented. Read most posts by regular members too, never replied, for about 2 whole years. Other years I semi-participated.

I had lots in my mind to think about regarding posts by Clergy or other members, but didn't write or post. Sometimes I did write a reply, but then deleted it before posting, because I figured my input wasn't needed. I regret not replying to some posts in particular because the people who did reply actually were wrong, regarding things I knew about and had a good answer to or a good perspective on the topic which would help members.

#23

It is an effort sometimes, but it's so much worth it. Before outreach I was only reading and leaving thanks here and there, not confident enough to write in English or express myself. That doesn't matter. Speak in your language subforum community if you feel more confident like that.

Community is built, it is with us here. There's a feeling of disconnection in the world: being online, present, but not really caring about anyone or anything. At some point I was on the extreme side of things, hating online interaction so so much, only wanting and trying to be present face-to-face with people (this concerns personal life and friendships). Guess what? My strongest friendships lasted only due to online interaction after all these years, then we meet and feel like nothing is lost. Don't disregard socialisation like it's unimportant.

Being here and active is different. You can see each other's personalities in these daily interactions, responses to posts, in sharing spiritual interactions or questions. It's meaningful. You matter, you leave a mark in the world.

#24

This situation of being outsider, for example, happens to me a lot. It didn't happen when I first came to the forum, but in the last year and a half, when I write something like this, it doesn't get much of a reaction or a thank-you response, and sometimes my response just stays there and no one notices it. When this happens, I find myself thinking absurd thoughts: "I wonder if I'm not suitable for forums?", "I wonder if they don't like me?", "The problem is me, no one notices me." These thoughts tire me so much that sometimes I don't answer or solve any questions or topics on the forums.

On the other hand, I feel guilty because I don't think I'm living up to my badge I have. But I hate feeling guilty, so I try to be as active as I can on my own country's forums.

ABRAXAS AENAOS 🌙☀️
PHOSFOROS HECATE 🌒🌕🌘

#25

I feel much better mentally and emotionally having been a bit more involved here.

It makes life a lot easier and despite the regular pressures and difficulties of existence, I am a lot happier being around and this has changed me in a positive way.

Let us all become divine and hand over hand lift each other in our journey.

This dividing of the load of responsibility and us working on growing and improving ourselves and each other is the most beautiful experience.

We can do this. We truly can.

No more of an endeavor is more valuable in life then upholding the house of Zeus and the Eternal Gods. Each of us, both big and small.

“Come to me, O Lord IAO, great Zeus-Ammon, hidden fire, all-seeing one, ram-horned, first and last, who rules from the sun.”
PGM V.96–172

“I am Atum, when I was alone in Nun. I am the beginning and the end.”
Coffin Texts, Spell 714

(Enki of Eridu, Lord of the Earth -- Poem)
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87236

#26

This situation of being outsider, for example, happens to me a lot. It didn't happen when I first came to the forum, but in the last year and a half, when I write something like this, it doesn't get much of a reaction or a thank-you response, and sometimes my response just stays there and no one notices it. When this happens, I find myself thinking absurd thoughts: "I wonder if I'm not suitable for forums?", "I wonder if they don't like me?", "The problem is me, no one notices me." These thoughts tire me so much that sometimes I don't answer or solve any questions or topics on the forums.

On the other hand, I feel guilty because I don't think I'm living up to my badge I have. But I hate feeling guilty, so I try to be as active as I can on my own country's forums.

Keep moving forward and keep trying.

Eventually this will all yield the proper growth and the process of engaging will help you advance.

You got this. :cool:

“Come to me, O Lord IAO, great Zeus-Ammon, hidden fire, all-seeing one, ram-horned, first and last, who rules from the sun.”
PGM V.96–172

“I am Atum, when I was alone in Nun. I am the beginning and the end.”
Coffin Texts, Spell 714

(Enki of Eridu, Lord of the Earth -- Poem)
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87236

#27

This situation of being outsider, for example, happens to me a lot. It didn't happen when I first came to the forum, but in the last year and a half, when I write something like this, it doesn't get much of a reaction or a thank-you response, and sometimes my response just stays there and no one notices it. When this happens, I find myself thinking absurd thoughts: "I wonder if I'm not suitable for forums?", "I wonder if they don't like me?", "The problem is me, no one notices me." These thoughts tire me so much that sometimes I don't answer or solve any questions or topics on the forums.

What if this is caused by a planetary transit? It would pass, then.

On the other hand, I feel guilty because I don't think I'm living up to my badge I have. But I hate feeling guilty, so I try to be as active as I can on my own country's forums.

I would say that of those 1700 posts of yours, the majority were not sharing cat pictures.

#28

This situation of being outsider, for example, happens to me a lot. It didn't happen when I first came to the forum, but in the last year and a half, when I write something like this, it doesn't get much of a reaction or a thank-you response, and sometimes my response just stays there and no one notices it. When this happens, I find myself thinking absurd thoughts: "I wonder if I'm not suitable for forums?", "I wonder if they don't like me?", "The problem is me, no one notices me." These thoughts tire me so much that sometimes I don't answer or solve any questions or topics on the forums.

On the other hand, I feel guilty because I don't think I'm living up to my badge I have. But I hate feeling guilty, so I try to be as active as I can on my own country's forums.

I have experienced all of this and more, and I still do. It is what it is, and maybe not always what we think it is. Just keep showing up despite it. You can't control how others react to you, or if there is any reaction at all. The only thing you can count on is yourself and being yourself.

What is right and wrong?
What is the meaning of our existence?
How should you live your life, according to Nature and the Gods?
Find out here:
https://templeofzeus.org/EthicsOftheGods

Join us in the Temple, we engage in blessings and group rituals to the Gods:
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/vultus-templorum-outreach-and-temple-live-rituals.301975/

#29

If you have a fear of humiliation, fear of making mistakes, fear of not being helpful, etc. Please do not listen to these voices of fear; all of them are only an illusion. You will find your strength, your life-changing course through your fear by overcoming it.

I make dozens of mistakes, and I am not ashamed of them. I only become better by correcting my mistakes.. How can a person grow without making mistakes? Daily, everyone helps me to grow, to be better, to be more mindful.

So...Do not miss that opportunity to grow. You may regret it after 5 years.

What I thought to myself in regards to this was:

"I must let my Brothers and Sisters judge me, I must learn to show them how much conviction I have to fight for them every day. If I know the Gods see me, then I should present myself to the members of the Temple of Zeus as well.

If they happen to judge me, then they seek my advancement and evolution, and that's an honor in an of itself."

It's all about overcoming any fears of social reputation, and connecting to the love we hold for each other as we become even greater pillars for the Temple of Zeus.

#30

Thank you for the words of encouragement. I do not always know what to say, but I will try my best to become more involved here in this community.

#31

What if this is caused by a planetary transit? It would pass, then.

I would say that of those 1700 posts of yours, the majority were not sharing cat pictures.

What kind of planet transit never ends ?

Ahahaha henu 🤭. No, it's not, but it's still not enough, I have to do more.

ABRAXAS AENAOS 🌙☀️
PHOSFOROS HECATE 🌒🌕🌘

#32

I have experienced all of this and more, and I still do. It is what it is, and maybe not always what we think it is. Just keep showing up despite it. You can't control how others react to you, or if there is any reaction at all. The only thing you can count on is yourself and being yourself.

You're right, and I need to do this. Thank you for the answer. And I'm so sorry for late reply 🙏.

ABRAXAS AENAOS 🌙☀️
PHOSFOROS HECATE 🌒🌕🌘

#33

This is nice and needed.

#34

What kind of planet transit never ends ?

Are you saying this has been a recurring theme throughout your life? In that case, I would study the natal chart for indications and then use magick to counter such issues.

Ahahaha henu 🤭. No, it's not, but it's still not enough, I have to do more.

Always more to do.

#35

A most kind thing to write, Guardian. I tend to be on the quieter side, I love reading and getting to know you all, but sometimes I feel I do not have much to offer in return. Maybe that is just me undervaluing myself, something I have to correct. It is, however, encouraging to know that we are accepted as we are. I will try to contribute more to the conversation. Love you all, brothers and sisters.

#36

Are you saying this has been a recurring theme throughout your life? In that case, I would study the natal chart for indications and then use magick to counter such issues.

Always more to do.

If I detect that troublesome astrological point, I will heal it with a very powerful spell.

Yes it's. ^^

ABRAXAS AENAOS 🌙☀️
PHOSFOROS HECATE 🌒🌕🌘

#37

No exaggeration, all the different people we have in the safe space chat and the forums on here will offer you so much advice. These wonderful people seek to see others become better and shatter the limitations you impose on yourself, even if you think you do not do so. This will change your life if you partake in the experience that is being a Zevist, this path is for the elite, and if you find your way here you are meant to be one of us. The door is open to you, the Gods are waiting. The choice is yours, but i highly recommend you take the first step.

HAIL ZEUS, THE CLERGY and the GODS!!
Seek challenges, they bring growth.
Stay the path, your consistency will pay off.
Continue to be optimistic.
negativity is a tool, not a reactionary system inside us.
You cannot help others if you do not understand the self first.