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Baseless Assertions of Christians

These are the types of unreliable arguments used by Christians to defend their Faith. They use this as an excuse to convince people.


Source: Biblical Nonsense by Dr. Jason Long



Perhaps the most aggravating ordeal in discussing religious theory is the burden of listening to logical fallacies used by someone with an opposing viewpoint.

Logical fallacies are arguments outside the bounds of reality, commonly used by zealous defenders of their respective religions. While some of the arguments used by

such an individual may seem sound or valid to a lay audience, especially one with beliefs deeply rooted in the debated system, this chapter should assist you in being

able to recognize when such disingenuous methods of argumentation are used. In fact, the illogical attributes of Christianity itself prematurely handicap the ability

for a Bible defender to use sound logic in defending his position. I will support examples of these poorly developed techniques with hypothetical religious arguments

in order to reinforce the often-confusing explanations.

It's important for the freethinker to avoid these faulty methods of argumentation in order to remain above an intellectually dishonest level. As the tools of

logic and reason are on the side of those who don't blindly delve into the comforts of false superstitions, there's no foreseeable excuse to ever resort to the use of

logical fallacies in the "defense" of disbelief.



Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam -- An argument from ignorance

This is a proposal that something is true (or false) because it has yet to be proven otherwise. A Christian might say, "The crucifixion is a historical fact

because no one has found any documents conspiring to invent the story." In the same manner, I could claim that Jesus had four arms. Since no one can solidly disprove

my ridiculous assertion, the previous speaker's fallacious logic allows my statement to be considered a historical fact. Needless to say, a lack of evidence against a

claim doesn't make the proposal a historical certainty.




Argumentum Ad Nauseam -- An argument that depends on mere repetition

Some apologists (those who defend a religious doctrine) will consider an argument more valid if the audience hears it more than the opposing viewpoint.A

speaker using this method of argumentation will go to great lengths in order to ensure that he voices his opinion as often as possible. Although the argument itself

may be perfectly sound, it's no more or less true the thousandth time that the speaker used it than the first. A silent form of this argument may be self-utilized when

someone forms an opinion on the legitimacy of Christianity based on the abundance of related literary works. While Christian nations tend to publish extraordinary

amounts of Christian material, the arguments contained therein do not increase in soundness based solely on the number of times that writers regurgitate the

information.




Argumentum Ad Antiquitatem -- An argument based on age


Christians will often make arguments that imply something is true because society has generally accepted it as the truth for a lengthy but arbitrary period of

time.A Christian might say, "People have believed in God for thousands of years. This belief has existed for so long that there must absolutely be some truth to it."

Apologists of even older religions could also make such bankrupt claims, but such assertions would no doubt go unheard by a close-minded Christian apologist. In short,

the age of the belief in question is independent from the legitimacy of the belief itself.





Argumentum Ad Novitatem -- An argument from novelty


Conversely, some Christians will argue that certain beliefs are true because they're newer than others. They might argue: "Jesus Christ was crucified during

the time of recorded history. Many people wrote about his death, and it's much harder to forge such a record in this era. Therefore, the account is true." Scholars

have adequately disproven several modern beliefs, religious or otherwise, in the past 2000 years. While there may be an increased obstacle of difficulty in forging

records of a modern event, a belief isn't true just because it's newer than others in the same field.




Argumentum Ad Crumenam -- An argument based on wealth.

Apologists often cite the attributes and qualities of people during arguments as evidence to support an assertion. Let's suppose there's a multi-billionaire

preacher who has dedicated his life to serving God. This hypothetical character might often be apologetically used as an example of how Christianity is more likely to

be true than other religions. Because this rich individual obviously made many correct choices in life, his belief in Jesus, according to the apologist, only makes

sense.




Argumentum Ad Lazarum -- An argument based on a lack of wealth

Conversely, another Christian might consider a poor individual to be more virtuous since he isn't preoccupied with materialistic possessions. Therefore,

according to the apologist, we should hold his religious viewpoints in higher esteem than those of the common person.




Argumentum Ad Verecundiam -- An argument based on authority

If a person is famous, Christians will often appeal to that individual as an additional example for the legitimacy of their religion. For instance, "Since the

past few Presidents of the US have adhered to Christianity, it is certainly the most correct religion."George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were non-Christians, but

this doesn't mean the belief system is any less reliable. However, you should make an important discrepancy between this logical fallacy and the referencing of an

authority on a given subject. If the speaker sufficiently explains the authority's position, the proposal then becomes an acceptable supplementary argument. Cutting

the debate short by exclaiming things like "you just need to read this book by John Q. Public" isn't a satisfactory procedure because two speakers citing books back

and forth all day would accomplish nothing.




Argumentum Ad Numerum -- An argument based on the number of people who believe something to be true.


If an ignorant debater considers a single person to be good evidence, then billions of people probably seem like pure gold.Christians often suggest that Jesus

Christ must be an actual historical figure because close to two billion living people now believe that he is the son of God. However, over one billion people believe

that Muhammad split the moon in half. Where is the imaginary boundary for the number argument to work? What happens when the world's Muslim population inevitably

exceeds the number of Christians? Will biblical apologists then accept Islam as the truth based on this reasoning? Of course not, and they shouldn't. The number of

people who subscribe to a religion doesn't make the belief system any more or less factual than it already is (or isn't).




Argumentum Ad Populum -- is the use of a statement that appeals to some popular notion in society


A Christian might argue, "To insinuate that the Bible is a hoax is to call a countless number of our past heroes misguided." Even though such a statement might

successfully enrage the audience against the speaker's opponent, it's a blatantly dishonest but often unintentional utilization of the audience's emotions to turn them

toward a certain viewpoint. No matter how popular or widespread a religious belief can be, these qualities don't add to the soundness of the facts.
 
This was very informative it makes sense to see that xians are so brainwashed that they have some serious reality issuses also know as warped perceptions. Most Christians have some serious misconceptions about true reality. So this makes sense on a psychological levle. Good post brother hail Satan 

On Nov 11, 2009, at 7:52 PM, "Black_Logic_666" <i_need_to_know_the_truth@... wrote:
  Baseless Assertions of Christians

These are the types of unreliable arguments used by Christians to defend their Faith. They use this as an excuse to convince people.

Source: Biblical Nonsense by Dr. Jason Long

Perhaps the most aggravating ordeal in discussing religious theory is the burden of listening to logical fallacies used by someone with an opposing viewpoint.

Logical fallacies are arguments outside the bounds of reality, commonly used by zealous defenders of their respective religions. While some of the arguments used by

such an individual may seem sound or valid to a lay audience, especially one with beliefs deeply rooted in the debated system, this chapter should assist you in being

able to recognize when such disingenuous methods of argumentation are used. In fact, the illogical attributes of Christianity itself prematurely handicap the ability

for a Bible defender to use sound logic in defending his position. I will support examples of these poorly developed techniques with hypothetical religious arguments

in order to reinforce the often-confusing explanations.

It's important for the freethinker to avoid these faulty methods of argumentation in order to remain above an intellectually dishonest level. As the tools of

logic and reason are on the side of those who don't blindly delve into the comforts of false superstitions, there's no foreseeable excuse to ever resort to the use of

logical fallacies in the "defense" of disbelief..

Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam -- An argument from ignorance

This is a proposal that something is true (or false) because it has yet to be proven otherwise. A Christian might say, "The crucifixion is a historical fact

because no one has found any documents conspiring to invent the story." In the same manner, I could claim that Jesus had four arms. Since no one can solidly disprove

my ridiculous assertion, the previous speaker's fallacious logic allows my statement to be considered a historical fact. Needless to say, a lack of evidence against a

claim doesn't make the proposal a historical certainty.

Argumentum Ad Nauseam -- An argument that depends on mere repetition

Some apologists (those who defend a religious doctrine) will consider an argument more valid if the audience hears it more than the opposing viewpoint.A

speaker using this method of argumentation will go to great lengths in order to ensure that he voices his opinion as often as possible. Although the argument itself

may be perfectly sound, it's no more or less true the thousandth time that the speaker used it than the first. A silent form of this argument may be self-utilized when

someone forms an opinion on the legitimacy of Christianity based on the abundance of related literary works. While Christian nations tend to publish extraordinary

amounts of Christian material, the arguments contained therein do not increase in soundness based solely on the number of times that writers regurgitate the

information.

Argumentum Ad Antiquitatem -- An argument based on age


Christians will often make arguments that imply something is true because society has generally accepted it as the truth for a lengthy but arbitrary period of

time.A Christian might say, "People have believed in God for thousands of years. This belief has existed for so long that there must absolutely be some truth to it."

Apologists of even older religions could also make such bankrupt claims, but such assertions would no doubt go unheard by a close-minded Christian apologist. In short,

the age of the belief in question is independent from the legitimacy of the belief itself.

Argumentum Ad Novitatem -- An argument from novelty

Conversely, some Christians will argue that certain beliefs are true because they're newer than others. They might argue: "Jesus Christ was crucified during

the time of recorded history. Many people wrote about his death, and it's much harder to forge such a record in this era. Therefore, the account is true." Scholars

have adequately disproven several modern beliefs, religious or otherwise, in the past 2000 years. While there may be an increased obstacle of difficulty in forging

records of a modern event, a belief isn't true just because it's newer than others in the same field.

Argumentum Ad Crumenam -- An argument based on wealth.

Apologists often cite the attributes and qualities of people during arguments as evidence to support an assertion. Let's suppose there's a multi-billionaire

preacher who has dedicated his life to serving God. This hypothetical character might often be apologetically used as an example of how Christianity is more likely to

be true than other religions. Because this rich individual obviously made many correct choices in life, his belief in Jesus, according to the apologist, only makes

sense.

Argumentum Ad Lazarum -- An argument based on a lack of wealth

Conversely, another Christian might consider a poor individual to be more virtuous since he isn't preoccupied with materialistic possessions. Therefore,

according to the apologist, we should hold his religious viewpoints in higher esteem than those of the common person.

Argumentum Ad Verecundiam -- An argument based on authority

If a person is famous, Christians will often appeal to that individual as an additional example for the legitimacy of their religion. For instance, "Since the

past few Presidents of the US have adhered to Christianity, it is certainly the most correct religion."George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were non-Christians, but

this doesn't mean the belief system is any less reliable. However, you should make an important discrepancy between this logical fallacy and the referencing of an

authority on a given subject. If the speaker sufficiently explains the authority's position, the proposal then becomes an acceptable supplementary argument. Cutting

the debate short by exclaiming things like "you just need to read this book by John Q. Public" isn't a satisfactory procedure because two speakers citing books back

and forth all day would accomplish nothing.

Argumentum Ad Numerum -- An argument based on the number of people who believe something to be true.

If an ignorant debater considers a single person to be good evidence, then billions of people probably seem like pure gold.Christians often suggest that Jesus

Christ must be an actual historical figure because close to two billion living people now believe that he is the son of God. However, over one billion people believe

that Muhammad split the moon in half. Where is the imaginary boundary for the number argument to work? What happens when the world's Muslim population inevitably

exceeds the number of Christians? Will biblical apologists then accept Islam as the truth based on this reasoning? Of course not, and they shouldn't. The number of

people who subscribe to a religion doesn't make the belief system any more or less factual than it already is (or isn't).

Argumentum Ad Populum -- is the use of a statement that appeals to some popular notion in society

A Christian might argue, "To insinuate that the Bible is a hoax is to call a countless number of our past heroes misguided." Even though such a statement might

successfully enrage the audience against the speaker's opponent, it's a blatantly dishonest but often unintentional utilization of the audience's emotions to turn them

toward a certain viewpoint. No matter how popular or widespread a religious belief can be, these qualities don't add to the soundness of the facts.
 
I agree. Thank you for posting that, Black Logic ...

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shades_of_chaos <shadows6of6be6@... wrote:

This was very informative it makes sense to see that xians are so brainwashed that they have some serious reality issuses also know as warped perceptions. Most Christians have some serious misconceptions about true reality. So this makes sense on a psychological levle. Good post brother hail Satan

On Nov 11, 2009, at 7:52 PM, "Black_Logic_666" <i_need_to_know_the_truth@... wrote:

Baseless Assertions of Christians

These are the types of unreliable arguments used by Christians to defend their Faith.. They use this as an excuse to convince people.

Source: Biblical Nonsense by Dr. Jason Long

Perhaps the most aggravating ordeal in discussing religious theory is the burden of listening to logical fallacies used by someone with an opposing viewpoint.

Logical fallacies are arguments outside the bounds of reality, commonly used by zealous defenders of their respective religions. While some of the arguments used by

such an individual may seem sound or valid to a lay audience, especially one with beliefs deeply rooted in the debated system, this chapter should assist you in being

able to recognize when such disingenuous methods of argumentation are used. In fact, the illogical attributes of Christianity itself prematurely handicap the ability

for a Bible defender to use sound logic in defending his position. I will support examples of these poorly developed techniques with hypothetical religious arguments

in order to reinforce the often-confusing explanations.

It's important for the freethinker to avoid these faulty methods of argumentation in order to remain above an intellectually dishonest level. As the tools of

logic and reason are on the side of those who don't blindly delve into the comforts of false superstitions, there's no foreseeable excuse to ever resort to the use of

logical fallacies in the "defense" of disbelief.

Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam -- An argument from ignorance

This is a proposal that something is true (or false) because it has yet to be proven otherwise. A Christian might say, "The crucifixion is a historical fact

because no one has found any documents conspiring to invent the story." In the same manner, I could claim that Jesus had four arms. Since no one can solidly disprove

my ridiculous assertion, the previous speaker's fallacious logic allows my statement to be considered a historical fact. Needless to say, a lack of evidence against a

claim doesn't make the proposal a historical certainty.

Argumentum Ad Nauseam -- An argument that depends on mere repetition

Some apologists (those who defend a religious doctrine) will consider an argument more valid if the audience hears it more than the opposing viewpoint.A

speaker using this method of argumentation will go to great lengths in order to ensure that he voices his opinion as often as possible. Although the argument itself

may be perfectly sound, it's no more or less true the thousandth time that the speaker used it than the first. A silent form of this argument may be self-utilized when

someone forms an opinion on the legitimacy of Christianity based on the abundance of related literary works. While Christian nations tend to publish extraordinary

amounts of Christian material, the arguments contained therein do not increase in soundness based solely on the number of times that writers regurgitate the

information.

Argumentum Ad Antiquitatem -- An argument based on age


Christians will often make arguments that imply something is true because society has generally accepted it as the truth for a lengthy but arbitrary period of

time.A Christian might say, "People have believed in God for thousands of years. This belief has existed for so long that there must absolutely be some truth to it."

Apologists of even older religions could also make such bankrupt claims, but such assertions would no doubt go unheard by a close-minded Christian apologist. In short,

the age of the belief in question is independent from the legitimacy of the belief itself.

Argumentum Ad Novitatem -- An argument from novelty

Conversely, some Christians will argue that certain beliefs are true because they're newer than others. They might argue: "Jesus Christ was crucified during

the time of recorded history. Many people wrote about his death, and it's much harder to forge such a record in this era. Therefore, the account is true." Scholars

have adequately disproven several modern beliefs, religious or otherwise, in the past 2000 years. While there may be an increased obstacle of difficulty in forging

records of a modern event, a belief isn't true just because it's newer than others in the same field.

Argumentum Ad Crumenam -- An argument based on wealth.

Apologists often cite the attributes and qualities of people during arguments as evidence to support an assertion. Let's suppose there's a multi-billionaire

preacher who has dedicated his life to serving God. This hypothetical character might often be apologetically used as an example of how Christianity is more likely to

be true than other religions. Because this rich individual obviously made many correct choices in life, his belief in Jesus, according to the apologist, only makes

sense.

Argumentum Ad Lazarum -- An argument based on a lack of wealth

Conversely, another Christian might consider a poor individual to be more virtuous since he isn't preoccupied with materialistic possessions. Therefore,

according to the apologist, we should hold his religious viewpoints in higher esteem than those of the common person.

Argumentum Ad Verecundiam -- An argument based on authority

If a person is famous, Christians will often appeal to that individual as an additional example for the legitimacy of their religion. For instance, "Since the

past few Presidents of the US have adhered to Christianity, it is certainly the most correct religion."George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were non-Christians, but

this doesn't mean the belief system is any less reliable. However, you should make an important discrepancy between this logical fallacy and the referencing of an

authority on a given subject. If the speaker sufficiently explains the authority's position, the proposal then becomes an acceptable supplementary argument. Cutting

the debate short by exclaiming things like "you just need to read this book by John Q. Public" isn't a satisfactory procedure because two speakers citing books back

and forth all day would accomplish nothing.

Argumentum Ad Numerum -- An argument based on the number of people who believe something to be true.

If an ignorant debater considers a single person to be good evidence, then billions of people probably seem like pure gold.Christians often suggest that Jesus

Christ must be an actual historical figure because close to two billion living people now believe that he is the son of God. However, over one billion people believe

that Muhammad split the moon in half. Where is the imaginary boundary for the number argument to work? What happens when the world's Muslim population inevitably

exceeds the number of Christians? Will biblical apologists then accept Islam as the truth based on this reasoning? Of course not, and they shouldn't. The number of

people who subscribe to a religion doesn't make the belief system any more or less factual than it already is (or isn't).

Argumentum Ad Populum -- is the use of a statement that appeals to some popular notion in society

A Christian might argue, "To insinuate that the Bible is a hoax is to call a countless number of our past heroes misguided." Even though such a statement might

successfully enrage the audience against the speaker's opponent, it's a blatantly dishonest but often unintentional utilization of the audience's emotions to turn them

toward a certain viewpoint. No matter how popular or widespread a religious belief can be, these qualities don't add to the soundness of the facts.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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