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Gear88 said:
Is it normal for cleaning/protection to last like 30 minutes or so?

Every time I sit down to clean 54 Surya, Returning curses affirmation: My aura is constantly and continuously..., and as well as basic aop, solar aop, lunar aop, and very powerful aura in the aura section of JoSM. On top of that I perform 88 vibrations of Thauris, Algs, Sauil, Bairkan, and Aihwa to harmoniously merge the protection.

Is it normal for it to take me about 30 minutes or so?

BTW is it normal with my schedule to take several hours as I perform spread around. I like meditating throughout my day not in one sitting block, though I've done it.

C/P/EZ Spin/MerKaba/FCM(lower chakras, Pineal, 3rd eye)/[H/K Yoga]/Healing work/Munka work.

Is it normal that these 9 workings I spread throughout the day take so long? I'm fine doing it for long I'm not against spending 1H+ maybe 2 hours doing it in one sitting.

My only issue is if it works or not. Again I'm not into trance, I'm practicing, the other day I felt my body numbed as I breath in so much it felt like the oxygen was anesthetic and I was buzzing from the oxygen.

I've always been curious if trance = can be done and stay to perform all meditation in it. I always wanted to know if trance can be done while doing yoga i.e. physical activity. Or is trance a sitting/lying only type of experience that requires sitting/lying down.

Again trance is very difficult for me same for void. I'm practicing but I'd like to know if my schedule is too much.

Also is meditation = pointless if your not in a trance?

I know it's been replied to me that meditation = you did SOMETHING which affects you so you did it.

[Merkaba is a meditation I love, I know it's an intermediate meditation and I should temper it but I'm using the energy ball internal for the base chakra rather than manipura chakra. I hope it's okay to do it my affirmation is My entire energy field is fully vibrating at the speed of light in the most beneficial way for me now and forever.]

I hope I don't get talked down form merkaba. And yes if your wondering I don't feel anything from it, even spending 5-15 minutes I don't feel it.

Is it normal to be so powerless or so in beta state you don't feel anything. I've been re-reading again the trance state on JOSwiki and it seems like UNLESS you enter trance meditation and affirmation is pointless.

But then other questions arise if trance is so important does vibrating out loud harm your ears or does something.

Excuse the elementary, basic questions. I've never meditated correctly I just do it and hope for the best.

It is normal for some meditation sessions to take longer than others or not go as smoothly I know your frustration sometimes it takes me long time to do my meditations. Also maybe don’t do so many different meditations. Quality over quantity.

And it is not necessary to go into a trance every time you meditate. You can work on mastering void meditation. From what I read you need to be really good at void before you can enter a trance easily.

Maybe more members here can answer your other questions but hope this helps don’t beat yourself up
 
Henu the Great said:
Theserpentrises1666 said:
Okay yes thanks that’s what I been struggling with is the timing no idea when to start all I know is not during a VoC. What would be the best time to start a sun square for increasing health and vitality?
Thank you for your knowledge sir.
Read the following two sections as the information is in there. There is a ton of other information that is bound to be useful for you too.

https://www.satanisgod.org/Satanic_Meditation.html

https://www.joyofsatan.org/Satanic_Magick.html

I have read both of those sections before but I probably haven’t read everything so I will study again thank you.
 
Stormblood said:
Theserpentrises1666 said:
What would be the best time to start a sun square for increasing health and vitality?

Sun in Aries or Leo are the best for that. Please, be sure to read the resources that have been suggested to you. You will find many answers much faster.

Yes I’m on it. :twisted:
Read the following resources. Do not skip!
https://joyofsatan.org/Concentration.html
https://joyofsatan.org/ThreeSteps.html
https://joyofsatan.org/Color.html
https://joyofsatan.org/Timing.html
https://joyofsatan.org/retrogrades.html
https://joyofsatan.org/Cardinal_Points.html
 
I'll repost this.

Is it normal to spend upwards of 30 minutes cleaning/protecting?

RCpt.1/Sloughing ball/RCpt2 Surya 54 vibrations/ 18 affirmation RC/88 Thauris, Algs, Sauil, Bairkan, Aihwa/Basic, Solar, and Lunar AoP affirmation

I've lately been so tired of cleaning and protecting I'm leaving it to once a day. The day I posted this was on the Friday Sabbath cleansing/purification, which I'm doing for the day.

But lately cleaning feels like a chore particularly the 88 runic vibrations. I use multiple runes to cover myself as Blitzkrieg mentioned newbies should begin to do runic working as soon as possible to help with the planets and general negativity of the enemy.

Is 30 minutes or near that excessive? I'm not even doing 108 nor 216 vibrations of RCpt2 cleansing.

Should my protection be stronger in comparison to cleansing or should I clean further and reduce my runic working back to 36 vibrations or less. HP.Cobra was adamant the more you clean the more you have to keep on top of cleaning or else negativity begins manifesting. He's right I've done high rep workings burn myself out and then some slight quips occur.

I hear voices speak to me in a very faint way and they told me work less on your soul your going too fast take it easy in terms of doing multiple runic workings. My only workings are Healing work and Urus anti-neg karma. As one member put it work on only one or two things at a time for workings.

Should I be taking my cleansing more seriously and reduce my protection a bit. I know protection = cleaner due to sloughing off negativity. But still?
 

Your cleaning, and protection take 30 minutes all together? Because that's shouldn't be anywhere near to too much.
 
Excuse me for double posting. I thought my post got ignored.

But I will add like I said in my second post.

Should I focus more on protection or should I outright clean and raise my cleaning?

I did increase my Surya to x88 vibration. I don't want to do full 216 as HP.Cobra was like when letting the murkiness bubble up be on top of your cleaning so it doesn't manifest.

Plus I'm doing a 90-day General anti-neg karma. I am fully free from every negative karma in the most beneficial way for me now and forever x9.
 
Gear88 said:
Also one more question. I use multi-rune vibrations. I vibrate(I prefer Gothic vibrations): Thauris, Algs, Sauil, Bairkan and then I used to use Aihwa(unites the energies harmoniously).

Is it wrong to unite the protective forces with Aihwa?

Or is it better to eliminate Aihwa and let them work in their own way?

i.e. Runic AoP

I had seen some of your other posts, and it sounds like those voices are from the Gods, but remember to connect to their sigils to bolster the accuracy, and work directly on your body and grounding, like they say. The yin aspects of reality may seem boring to you, but this is only if you do not value them properly. In fact, development of the body or the yin side of the soul makes us more able to tolerate boring scenarios, simply feeling less bored with less stimulation.

I'm not totally certain on how much Aihwa is required or not, however we can see in the Gods' rituals that many runes are grouped without Ehwaz, so I think it is fine. It is definitely not a strict requirement, if that is what you are asking.

Regarding a runic AOP, or any working, the question then becomes whether or not the benefit of chanting Ehwaz would outweigh the benefit of simply chanting more of the original runes instead, regarding the power of the outcome.
 
Gear88 said:
Excuse me for double posting. I thought my post got ignored.

But I will add like I said in my second post.

Should I focus more on protection or should I outright clean and raise my cleaning?

I did increase my Surya to x88 vibration. I don't want to do full 216 as HP.Cobra was like when letting the murkiness bubble up be on top of your cleaning so it doesn't manifest.

Plus I'm doing a 90-day General anti-neg karma. I am fully free from every negative karma in the most beneficial way for me now and forever x9.

It is hard to choose because both are incredibly important, but I would choose to do more protection if I had to pick one. However, cleaning is a major basis for our growth and should be viewed with excitement, as it paves the way for solid advancement. View it more like purification on the road to Godhead.

Yes, spending 30+ minutes on these is normal and also I am proud of you for putting in the effort. Don't think your time is wasted at all. Both of these items fall into the category of feeling monotonous, yet also being essential building blocks for success. If either was torn from your routine, everything else would suffer.

Protection is not just something that only comes in handy whenever, but is actually defense against the negative factors of life, like that which could hurt you, or make you make bad decisions, lose money or time, and so on.

You can split up your routine if doing it all at once is boring to you. Instead of 88 reps, do 40 twice per day, or something.

Also, instead of high reps of chanting, you can get away with less if your soul is more powerful. Since your body is in need of help, you should spend more time doing hatha yoga, and/or do pranayama prior to your chanting, and this will amplify it greatly.

Lastly, energy breathing will still work for an AOP; runes are not essential. It is just that newbs might feel comfortable with low reps, like 5 breaths or something, when in reality more effort should be put in to stay fully protected and safe.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=479119 time=1703385254 user_id=21286]Lastly, energy breathing will still work for an AOP; runes are not essential. It is just that newbs might feel comfortable with low reps, like 5 breaths or something, when in reality more effort should be put in to stay fully protected and safe.

OH okay cool. I recall you mentioning a while back Runic protection is fine and good to do as soon as possible to hinder the negativity.

I do like basic AoP I still feel like a beginner. The voice that speaks states take it a bit slower. For example I was doing like 4-5 workings but dropped it to Healing/Urus anti-neg karma, heal x36, Urus 108.

I don't mind 88 Surya because it's fine but I feel like I'm half-assing the runes. I'm aware Lydia mentioning smaller reps aren't bad just different it takes time like FancyMancy's 1-rep chart eventually after a number of years 1-rep will trail a high rep energy range. As energy is cumulative and continues to propagate with proper programming. Of course 1-rep isn't very good and it's just a scientific explanation.

I already dropped my Runic working because it's very overwhelming. I'll stick to RCpt1/2 affirmation and breathing a lot with AoP.

I did hear the Succubus voice the female voice that I hear state a short while back when I went a little crazy with meditation. To breath a lot for AoP. I was seeing my house as gold and I automatically left lotus pods on my feet. I recall the Tibetan monks and certain Hindus doing walking meditation leaving lotus behind their trails growing out their feet. I don't know if it was a hallucination or an actual visual prowess of illuminated mind. It didn't bother it excited me kinda trippy but again I need to be careful as I'm a person with problems plus I'm still working on grounding/centering/stabilizing.

Mind if I ask how much is breathing a lot. Is it time wise or rep wise?

Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=479118 time=1703384564 user_id=21286]Regarding a runic AOP, or any working, the question then becomes whether or not the benefit of chanting Ehwaz would outweigh the benefit of simply chanting more of the original runes instead, regarding the power of the outcome.

It posses a harmonic principle: [When used with other runes, Eihwaz unites the energies harmoniously.]

Are you trying to state I'm melting the runes together a forging a new runic pattern similar to creating new magick?

Are you trying to state I'm causing issues not bad issues just ignorance a kinda medley of new runic capabilities.

I can see why HP.Cobra separates the runes and not merge them with Ehwaz. Very interesting perhaps that's the reason I felt kinda weird in a good way these past few days. Maybe my 88 working is half-assed a bit and not doing the proper thing.

I'm simply asking to merge the protection together so I have protection AND shielding.

Protection = away from danger. Shielding = protection from curses i.e. electro-magnetic banefulness.

Hmm very interesting. I guess I did a minor mistake.

That's one reason why I wish JoS was more concrete we are experimental. Not bad, not saying anything bad look at my prior usage of squares I regret touching the squares.

But what you state makes more sense.

Is it too late to drop Ehwaz in my Healing working and simply vibrate Winja and Thauris together for healing purposes.

My heal work is x36 Winja, Thauris, and Aihwa. Affirmation wise x9: I am fully and harmoniously healing from every sexual, mental, psychological, and emotional health issues and traumas in the most beneficial way for me now and forever.

I overcomplicate affirmations I'm simply trying to cover all my basis.

Would eliminating Aihwa help me out?

I did a while back shortly in Fall get super pissed off for 3 days straight using Thauris working and seeing Thauris in blood berserker red in the center of my body and around me like an AoP with my head turning red full of steam and getting an anger. It wasn't bad or out of control but man my mental state was pissed off you should have sensed the shit in my head to know how I was.

I love using Thauris the anger felt real it didn't feel plastic or fake like my usual I just tolerate everything I felt happy being angry for real. Since a little kid I used to say a lot I'm always pissed off, everything pisses me off. And get pissed off a lot as a child very emotional especially being Cancarian and having very powerful astro chart.

I wish one day I can reveal my chart to you. You'd be like wow your personality is your most powerful weapon but you have so many issues to resolve we need to reforge you from the ground up.
 
Is it safe to work on Spinal chakras?

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=92538&p=478823 -- View of Innocence's post.

This goes out to anyone but particular Blitzkreig.

I do 5 vibrations on my spine chakras i.e. rear program my rear mulhadara chakra is fully empowering now and forever.

I notice immediate results from vibrating. I notice I get kundalini syndrome akin to Advil PM. I've taken Advil PM 4 or 5 times in my life, standard sleep/sick dose. And it gives me an allergy of kundalini syndrome in a strong way. It feels like the base of my spine is being pulled in.

I get those surges vibrating into those chakras.

Mind if I ask what about the front chakras and side?

I want to ask is meditation on chakras done at high reps 40-100 or more or lower reps. I ask because it seems like I've only worked on my main center chakras and it hasn't done anything to me. I don't feel difference. But the instant I focus on my rear chakras my spine gets warm and gets affected immediate results never felt anything like this before.

View of Innocence mentions a physical component in his post. And I gotta agree I really do. I do recall HP.Shannon mentioning Azazel told her the Kundalini outranks chakras.

Is it possible I was risen at one point in my past life and I need to work on that. Without sounding delusional. I agree slow and steady.

But honestly I feel lost completely lost I don't know what to do exactly. I burn myself out and want to move into easier meditations. I keep doing my healing and negative karma work and FCM and a few things but already dropped runic shielding/protection and hatha/kundalini yoga.

I'm aware I posses a very difficult time with physical reality. I do have an astrological aspect that Wayman Stewart talked about and it's if you posses this power your powerless. My most powerful power is powerlessness which some say is a power unto itself.

I want to continue my journey with meditation and spiritual advancement. But I don't even trance, void though I try and practice a bit.

What should I do? Was I not meant for spiritual advancement and spirituality? I've been hear over 20 years now dedicated and zilch. Albeit when I went crazy with meditation about a month or two ago, I did have effects but shrugged it off as hallucinations and out of control mind.
 
I also have another question.

Am I supposed to do 125 vibrations of x5 Sanskrit _aums to perform on all 25 major Chakras?

Am I supposed to work on my entire soul in one general aspect? specifically targeting the chakras.

I'll admit for most of my 20 year stint I barely worked on the chakras just in general on myself. I was performing my actions without focusing on the chakras i.e. organs of the soul.

Is that bad? Did I waste my time these 20 years?
 
When vibrating tiwaz is it it pronounced ttttiiiiwwwaaazzzz or tttttiiiiwwwaaassss because in the JoS audio recordings Maxine does it with a hissing s but on the rune pronunciation guide it seems like it should be with a z, also its spelt with a z why would a rune with a z be pronounced the same as a rune with an s for instance uruz is done with a z like uuuurrrrruuuzzzz not uuuuurrrruuuuussss.
 
WoadWarrior said:
When vibrating tiwaz is it it pronounced ttttiiiiwwwaaazzzz or tttttiiiiwwwaaassss because in the JoS audio recordings Maxine does it with a hissing s but on the rune pronunciation guide it seems like it should be with a z, also its spelt with a z why would a rune with a z be pronounced the same as a rune with an s for instance uruz is done with a z like uuuurrrrruuuzzzz not uuuuurrrruuuuussss.
Try it out to see what best works for you.
 
I also want to ask.

Particularly I've been working on all my 25 major chakras I said fuck it lets do 125 vibrations x5 per chakra.

It felt awesome I can feel warmness and sensations in my body. But here is the thing particularly when doing the lower chakras but also even upper.

I get the same orgasmic snaps as my succubus does. I ask her to give me orgasms and I experience the physical reaction but not the orgasm. I breath in deeply multiple times, I vocalize, and roll my eyes but no orgasm she is producing the effects to my level.

Every time I work on the chakra particularly my rear muldhara I get the syndromes mentioned above the post like Advil PM allergy I pertain only much lighter and it seems like it goes away once I work on the other chakras. I really like working on all my chakras and particularly like working from bottom to top. I don't meditate like a master and I'm logical as fuck. I posses an astral chart of a person with a balanced mercurial mind due to hyper logic it's why void and trance are so hard for me.

Is it normal to be sexually charged in those actions while doing charka work? Also is it normal to breath in brown energy into my soul and aura both and program it to for grounding, centering, and stabilization and get sexual effects from it like the orgasms my succubus gives me. It doesn't feel good i.e. no orgasm but I experience a physical reproduction of it like not fake orgasm but an orgasmic experience without the feel good.

I feel like my soul floats in the air and is not attached to my physical body. Is that normal? Like out of sync.

Is it normal for me to experience so much sexual thrill working on my chakras?

Also I get the same effect vibrating 20 Akasha while breathing in akasha and programming it to balance me out not my elements my entire self.
 
Hello I am looking for a strong obsession spell. I dont know how to make a post here
 
1)If the elements are imbalanced in a person's astrological chart, such as having 2 large water triangles, 2 large fire triangles, or 2 large air triangles along with 2 large earth triangles, or different combinations, should one invoke the deficient elements more during the week? For example, if there is a lack of Fire and Air, should the invocation follow the sequence: Ether - Fire - Air - Earth - Fire - Water - Air - and then repeat, starting again with Ether? I know Ether balances the elements in the body, but I still think it might be more accurate to do it this way. What do you think is more appropriate?

2)When invoking an element, should I repeat the affirmation for its development every day, or is it sufficient as long as the Moon is not void of course? Or is it not a necessity like in regular spellwork with elements? If I need to repeat the affirmation daily, for example, can I affirm the spell's affirmation related to the element on the days I invoke it without paying attention to whether the Moon is void of course?
 
-> Mii-Duu-Eh-Ey -> said:
1)If the elements are imbalanced in a person's astrological chart, such as having 2 large water triangles, 2 large fire triangles, or 2 large air triangles along with 2 large earth triangles, or different combinations, should one invoke the deficient elements more during the week? For example, if there is a lack of Fire and Air, should the invocation follow the sequence: Ether - Fire - Air - Earth - Fire - Water - Air - and then repeat, starting again with Ether? I know Ether balances the elements in the body, but I still think it might be more accurate to do it this way. What do you think is more appropriate?

2)When invoking an element, should I repeat the affirmation for its development every day, or is it sufficient as long as the Moon is not void of course? Or is it not a necessity like in regular spellwork with elements? If I need to repeat the affirmation daily, for example, can I affirm the spell's affirmation related to the element on the days I invoke it without paying attention to whether the Moon is void of course?

1. You invoke the lacking elements. If you have a lack of air, you can invoke akasha or air or both, and affirm that it balances your elemntal air out. If you lack two different element, you should do do them in a separate spell/working, I think, So than you can focus exclusively on one element.

2. Affirmation is the part of the work, so you affirm every day, because that's a part of it. The very first day when you start it, it should not be on Void of Curse Moon, but on the other days, you can continue them even if it's VoC.
 
Correctly performing a Saturn Square can lead to misfortunate events.

So is it worth performing at all?

There are benefits to performing a Saturn Square, but can the misfortune outweigh the benefit?


Hail our family.
 
sola said:
Correctly performing a Saturn Square can lead to misfortunate events.
So is it worth performing at all?
There are benefits to performing a Saturn Square, but can the misfortune outweigh the benefit?

Hail our family.

The misfortune may outweigh the benefit if the harshness of any manifestations leads to a "collapse" of the individual, or a part of that individual. For example, if someone was doing Saturn Squares whilst having their Saturn return or other negative aspects, this could be too much contraction, when in reality we need a balance between contraction and expansion.

However, yes, Saturn is necessary and beneficial, as long as we recognize its lessons as long-term. I have done about 10 Saturn Squares. Some were worse than others, but nothing that led to my ruination or anything, despite some pain. It shows you where you are going wrong and gives you the discipline to guard against it.

We can also use Nauthiz and gain discipline, so a full Saturn Square is not always necessary, but it is different, too. I would write more, but I want to keep this brief.
 
It's a new year and I'm back to fresh start from where I started from I took a break from this path and it seems demons and Lilith and Lucifer been tryna contact me I was confused on which path is true I got bashed on here before and I'm back to relearn everything I don't agree with the racism towards other races especially the black race so I'm here to stand for the black race and help them see the truth so I'm here to ask y'all for real true guidance and guide me from a beginners points onces again so lets all talk
 
For Saturn Square, the following is stated: In your astrology chart: The house Saturn is posited in, along with the houses that have the sign of Capricorn on the cusp.

I’d assume that a Saturn Square would also concern the house Uranus is posited in, along with the house(s) that have Aquarius on the cusp. But theres no mention of it on the webpage.

How can one do a working related to the house Uranus is in, and/or the house(s) that have Aquarius on the cusp?
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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sola said:
There are benefits to performing a Saturn Square, but can the misfortune outweigh the benefit?
If someone was doing Saturn Squares whilst having their Saturn return or other negative aspects, this could be too much contraction, when in reality we need a balance between contraction and expansion.

Thank you for info.

Are there ways to neutralize the misfortunate events that might come with a Saturn Square?

For example beginning a Saturn Square during a prominent Jupiter moment. Or incorporating Algiz into the Square working. Or a combo of Jupiter moment + Algiz incorporation. There may be other methods which I haven’t thought of.

Do you know if such methods would neutralize the misfortune? Or is it unavoidable? Have you tried the same or similar methods with your Saturn Squares?
 
I have many questions. I’d love to consult my Guardian Demon about them. I still don’t know who they are, and I’m unable to see or hear telepathically.

Our GDs and other Demons/Gods can still communicate with us even if we can’t see/hear/feel them, but I suspect that the degree of communication is lesser, and might even be more susceptible to misinterpretation (compared to communicating via coherent sight, sound, & feeling).


I’ve attempt to develop my clairvoyance & clairaudience chakras via the visualisation method mentioned on the site (“focus on them & visualise them”). To no avail. The method is either not powerful enough for me, or I’m just doing it incorrectly.

What should I do? The goal is simple: be able to communicate crystal clearly with GDs, Demons, & Gods. And I suspect there is more than 1 way to reach that goal.

Can I please have information? If possible; can I be informed of all the possible ways of achieving the goal? If so; can I know which of the ways is most potent?

Assuming that the visualisation method is the only way; can I have tips to perform it correctly incase I was doing it wrong in the past?
 
Stormblood said:
Seki said:
For example, in the love spell, do I first pronounce the runes and then visualize the body and aura of the girl in question and then use the affirmation?

Oh, and the runes should be vibrated on the girls soul/aura directly for best results if you are specifically saying she is attracted to you, in love with you or something like.

If you're saying that YOU are attracting her or similar, then you vibrate the runes on yourself/your aura instead.
What’s the difference between ‘she is attracted to me’ vs ‘I am attracting her’ (vibrating on her soul vs vibrating on one-self’s soul)?
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=480300 time=1704013487 user_id=21286]
sola said:
Correctly performing a Saturn Square can lead to misfortunate events.
So is it worth performing at all?
There are benefits to performing a Saturn Square, but can the misfortune outweigh the benefit?

Hail our family.

The misfortune may outweigh the benefit if the harshness of any manifestations leads to a "collapse" of the individual, or a part of that individual. For example, if someone was doing Saturn Squares whilst having their Saturn return or other negative aspects, this could be too much contraction, when in reality we need a balance between contraction and expansion.

However, yes, Saturn is necessary and beneficial, as long as we recognize its lessons as long-term. I have done about 10 Saturn Squares. Some were worse than others, but nothing that led to my ruination or anything, despite some pain. It shows you where you are going wrong and gives you the discipline to guard against it.

We can also use Nauthiz and gain discipline, so a full Saturn Square is not always necessary, but it is different, too. I would write more, but I want to keep this brief.

which is the worst time in a human's life saturn transiting and being in the ascendant or when saturn is in the moon sign of the native?maxine has said when saturn is in the ascendant or retrograde over the ascendant ,that is the worst time of human's life but people here actually say when saturn transits over the moon sign is when the worst time of native is ..which is the truth?
 
Before I start balancing out my elements I just want to double check if I am reading it right from the natal chart.
So for one to see which elements are more dominent and which are weaker, one should look into "Distribution in the Signs" section? If that is the case then I am very, very out of balance by having 5 signs in fire and 3 in air.
I read about ether and how it is good to use it to balance out the elements but if my elements are out of balance this much should I focus separately on them? So to first invoke more water to balance out the fire and then after some time to invoke earth?
 
When performing a Mars square; is it suitable to affirm “I am empowering my 6th & 9th house”?
Or “I am empowering my 6th & 9th house in the best way”?
Or “I am strongly empowering my 6th & 9th house in the best way”?

(6th & 9th cusp correspond with Aries & Scorpio in the person’s natal chart). 6th & 9th were randomly picked example houses. They don’t apply to my actual natal chart or that of anyone I know.

I’d opt for the first affirmation (“I am empowering my 6th & 9th house”) because it’s to the dang point. Though I have a little uncertainty because what if the working is nullified just because a fella never added ‘in the best way’ at the end of it 💀?

If I were to say the affirmation “I am empowering my 6th & 9th house”, my intention is to obviously have it be done in the best and strongest way. It’s so dang common sense to me that I feel like it’s a joke to add ‘strongly’ and ‘best’ to the affirmation. Can I skip adding ‘strongly’ & ‘best’ to the affirmation as long as it’s firmly in my intent? Or is it best to add them to the affirmation regardless? (I saw Blitz’s post regarding affirmation tips & advice, yet I still have uncertainty so I seek to consult the forum).


Furthermore, can the Mars square be used to empower the house with cusp on Aries and also the house with cusp on Scorpio at the same time (6th & 9th)? Or is it best to dedicate a Mars square solely to either 6th or 9th (one at a time?)
 
Ardgion said:
Before I start balancing out my elements I just want to double check if I am reading it right from the natal chart.
So for one to see which elements are more dominent and which are weaker, one should look into "Distribution in the Signs" section? If that is the case then I am very, very out of balance by having 5 signs in fire and 3 in air.
I read about ether and how it is good to use it to balance out the elements but if my elements are out of balance this much should I focus separately on them? So to first invoke more water to balance out the fire and then after some time to invoke earth?

If you are just generally looking at the elements of the signs in your natal chart, this is going to show general characteristics about your personality. But it is very unlikely for this to show the exact same number for each element. This is not a problem and it does not mean that anything needs to be changed.

Focus on how you actually feel. If you feel perfectly fine, then you don't need to change anything with the elements. You might not have anything that is actually unbalanced. And you would create an imbalance by trying to invoke an element that you don't need. You will know that you are unbalanced if you are having bad effects from it.

Whether you are or are not unbalanced, you can work with the Akasha/Aether. If you are unbalanced, this will become the element that was lacking and will fill that in. And if you are balanced fine, this will fill in and support everything.

I don't recommend any new person to invoke any element, except for a very small amount to see what it feels like. And if you do not feel it, don't keep doing more. The effect of the element could come to you hours later, so it is important to not do too much. Invoking elemental fire energy could cause you to be burning hot and have a fever, so it could be dangerous invoking elements that you don't need.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Ardgion said:
Before I start balancing out my elements I just want to double check if I am reading it right from the natal chart.
So for one to see which elements are more dominent and which are weaker, one should look into "Distribution in the Signs" section? If that is the case then I am very, very out of balance by having 5 signs in fire and 3 in air.
I read about ether and how it is good to use it to balance out the elements but if my elements are out of balance this much should I focus separately on them? So to first invoke more water to balance out the fire and then after some time to invoke earth?

If you are just generally looking at the elements of the signs in your natal chart, this is going to show general characteristics about your personality. But it is very unlikely for this to show the exact same number for each element. This is not a problem and it does not mean that anything needs to be changed.
I believe fire to be my dominant element as I struggle with quite a few of issues regarding that, as in me being easily stressed, quick to anger, prone to inflammation issues with my body, unorganized, not good at following routines etc etc. So I do believe I need to balance these things out, just not sure if I should use Aether for all or focus on them individually. But thank you for the warning, I did think of only doing a few small amounts because I read of the possible danger with invoking elements.
 
sola said:
What’s the difference between ‘she is attracted to me’ vs ‘I am attracting her’ (vibrating on her soul vs vibrating on one-self’s soul)?

The difference is who's being primarily affected from the energy, whether it's you or another person. Sometimes it may be easier to focus the major of the energies on yourself, otherwise you may need to focus them externally.
 
Stormblood said:
sola said:
What’s the difference between ‘she is attracted to me’ vs ‘I am attracting her’ (vibrating on her soul vs vibrating on one-self’s soul)?

The difference is who's being primarily affected from the energy, whether it's you or another person. Sometimes it may be easier to focus the major of the energies on yourself, otherwise you may need to focus them externally.
Thank you, Storm. How would one know when its better to focus the energies on one’s-self or when its better to focus it on the person of interest?
 
on the calander what does the text mean when it says something like outdoors? Is it a day where you will enjoy being outside better than other days?
when it says freeing of soul does that mean its a good day to start that working?
 
When doing a working. Is it better to finish the working after 40 days? Or is it better to keep it for 50 to 60ish days for more power? (Cba to make it 80 days)
 
NinRick said:
When doing a working. Is it better to finish the working after 40 days? Or is it better to keep it for 50 to 60ish days for more power? (Cba to make it 80 days)

It depends on the working, brother. Some multiples of 10 past 40 may be useful for specific goals. Look at the base number. The 0 after it adds an element of material refinement to the properties of that number, to put it simply. Obviously, there is more about 0s than what I said, but I don't know much more myself anyway.
 
Stormblood said:
NinRick said:
When doing a working. Is it better to finish the working after 40 days? Or is it better to keep it for 50 to 60ish days for more power? (Cba to make it 80 days)

It depends on the working, brother. Some multiples of 10 past 40 may be useful for specific goals. Look at the base number. The 0 after it adds an element of material refinement to the properties of that number, to put it simply. Obviously, there is more about 0s than what I said, but I don't know much more myself anyway.

thank you very much for your reply! :)
 
When beginning Squares, does the moon phase impact the working greatly?

Mars Square for example; would beginning on an Aries/Scorpio moon be most impactful? Conversely, would beginning on Libra/Taurus moon dampen the working?

Mars in Libra/Taurus is obviously a no-go, but what about moon in those signs?


And assuming one specifically wishes to do a Mars square to empower their houses that have cusp on Mars & Scorpio; would starting the Square when the Moon is in the ruler of one of those house be beneficial? Or would it still be better to start when Moon is in Aries/Scorpio? Or does it not matter at all because moon sign has insignificant impact on Non-Moon squares?
 
sola said:
When beginning Squares, does the moon phase impact the working greatly?

Mars Square for example; would beginning on an Aries/Scorpio moon be most impactful? Conversely, would beginning on Libra/Taurus moon dampen the working?

Mars in Libra/Taurus is obviously a no-go, but what about moon in those signs?


And assuming one specifically wishes to do a Mars square to empower their houses that have cusp on Mars & Scorpio; would starting the Square when the Moon is in the ruler of one of those house be beneficial? Or would it still be better to start when Moon is in Aries/Scorpio? Or does it not matter at all because moon sign has insignificant impact on Non-Moon squares?
It is not a deciding factor, but a contributing factor.

There was a time in the past when Mars was in a very favorable position, along with waxing Moon with a sign at the same exact time related to the goal I had in mind. I am sure it played a role, but the Moon is not something that would be decisive. More like flavor on top.
 
Hi !

I would like to know if as Spiritual Satanists we must tolerate homosexuality of other genders ?
 
Lucifer en femme said:
Hi !

I would like to know if as Spiritual Satanists we must tolerate homosexuality of other genders ?

We acknowledge and accept many sexual properties of the genders.

LGBGTQ+ is accepted on the condition that the people know issues have occurred due to corruption.

For example we are not anti-trans but do agree it's bad. Changing your sex is not gonna solve stuff and many are gross literalization of spiritual concepts like for example Homosexuality being Beelzebub's territory of extreme masculinity or Satan representing shameless bisexuality in dealing with negative(yin) and positive(yang) energies i.e. alchemical and spiritual gender spirituality. Or having "incest" with a female Goddess to work with feminine energy. It's much akin to Scandinavian and certain Hindu mythologies of the Gods shadowplaying as spiritual energies and pretending to be an energy to describe the method by which the technology is used. In many cases the Gods LARP or shadowplay as energy signatures to describe that realm of reality.

Remember Gods = codeword for a spiritual energy as well just one of the many things the Gods can do. Think of it as an alternative allegory to explain stuff.

I recall a male wanting a operation and he did MerKaBa for like two months straight after a while they detransitioned and removed all the female technology. They returned back to their main gender.

Some men might be more feminine. For example I consider myself a more feminine guy but not out of wanting to change my sex. There might be masculine women again Mars and Venus show this on the astro chart. For example there are men that like men, homosexual and that is acceptable same for lesbianism.

Although pornographic mindsets do exist. For example most men aren't homosexual but do posses a cock fetish. For example as a Human and male I do enjoy seeing virile members and have an almost feminine appreciation of it. But that is the animalistic side of mankind. Seeing a virile member and erect or not signifies something sexual is about to happen. Monkey see, monkey do; animalistically wise seeing someone naked man or women excites the senses and makes you want intimate relations remember "INTI-" "MATE". So some men simply like seeing other men not out of wanting to be with them but the mental, physical, spiritual, animalistic, primal and instinctual technological side of theirs = sexual excitement over wanting sexual excitement.

This also explains the phenomena of transladys. Many men even straight men love transladys a sexual female looking person with a male virile member. Some of these guys are repressed and should explore their sexuality. For example many don't want a translady or break their relationship but perhaps they can try pegging i.e. when a women wears a strap-on and bends her boyfriend over. Perhaps the person is wanting rimming, analplay, prostatic play. Perhaps they might even feel their prostate swell up significantly during periods of time and wanting release through anal actives.

Remember Human Sexuality = a Theory; not a theorem rather a complex scientific/gnostic field i.e. the understanding and evolution of sexuality. Sadly this field is heavily infested with corrupt non-sense and while many reject the old enemy ways. I can't help but wonder what sexual theory or the gnosis or science of sex would be under the Gods.

I'm not trying to sound like a lefty but some of the things they speak are truthful, twisted up into creating damage. Why do you think the precursor to the sexual revolutions of the 60s and 70s occurred in 1930s-1940s Nazi Germany. Just because someone does something degenerated now a days doesn't mean it's evil and devil rather sublimated to a better position could be a sexual improvement. Again the enemy promotes the same xtian bullshit in a liberal package it's the same anti-sex, anti-love, anti-tantra stuff being purveyed out to the populace for self-destruction.

In other words a technological weapon a 5th Generational Information Weapon.

Again we are open your sexuality is your own business and yes there have been people who became trans or changed their gender. Again it's up to the person the consequences of that are unsure we've only had transexualism since the 1920s with surgeries the first one being in Brussels or Belgium I can't recall the person lived horrible they eventually died after 7 years suffering issues from most of them.

Sheer fact is people are fucked up in the head due to chemicals, pollutants, media brainwashing. It's like Tim Pool said where was LGBTQ+ 10 years ago during early social media web 2.0 days.

Sheer fact is it's being used as a political kudgel due to the extreme repression xtianity and company has caused.

Look at black and or arab people coming into Europe some of them are openly whipping out their member and masturbating in public looking at hot women.

These people are getting culture shock some of these people probably never witnessed this level of sexuality.

It's all a game for the enemy to create issues.

Sexuality and your decisions involving the realm of Sexual Science and the reality of your life. = Completely unto you.

NOTE: But do note there have been people who've changed and returned back to their original gender due to meditation and information.
 
Lucifer en femme said:
I would like to know if as Spiritual Satanists we must tolerate homosexuality of other genders ?

We just don't care what others do in their bedroom and private time, as long as it's between consensual adults and not anything that harms others.

But we oppose the LGBT crap community as they want to teach children about sex, transgenderism and gay porn in schools and try to promote themselves as a separate identity based on their sexuality instead of normal humans that do different things in their bedrooms. It is for adults, not something you teach to children. Just like your eye color. You don't persecute people for having a different eye color, nor should there be a "blue eyed community" for people who have blue eyes to base their entire identity on the fact that they have blue eyes (because this is very mentally unhealthy).

Transgenderism is a mental illness too, it's not the same as homosexuality which is a natural and private thing.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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