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Cosmic6999 said:
I have a true question how do I apply father Satan teaching into my life?
When you notice the food that you have eaten your whole life is not actually very healthy, and maybe even poisonous the only logical conclusion is to switch to other non-poisonous and healthy food.
 
What does runes actually do? I never bothers with these

Mostly just aura cleaning and protection. Void meditation,, and sometimes satan meditation “Meditation from Satan”
 
Missrainbow1 said:
Hi everyone)
I have a question)
How much time does it take for a human being to reach the Godhead?

I don't know for sure. It depends a lot of how much you work towards this in your lives.

I suspect it is possible within a few lifetimes if someone is able to focus on their advancement consistently for multiple lifetimes in a row without too much setbacks.

I know a bunch of us here today have been very delayed due to xianity. We have people here who have existed since before xianity came to be, but hadn't managed to reach the MO yet back then.

Xianity created severe setbacks and ruined the spiritual path for many of us the past two thousand years. If not for that, many of us today would have reached the MO hundreds of years ago.


I suspect the average time could be anywhere between a few thousand years to a few hundred. (Between a few dozen lifetimes to 4 or 5 on the fastest).

However I do not know for certain, and this is my speculation only.

That said, your soul can gain great longevity and reach a high level of advancement relatively quickly, like stage 1 of the MO which will empower your soul greatly and prevent dissipation for many lifetimes, even if one goes through a difficult era where advancement is nigh impossible.

Stage 1 of the MO is achievable within 2 or 3 lifetimes (possibly even in your first you have good guidance and happen to be very dedicated to advancement, but young souls are less likely to stick so closely to a path that has such an unfathomable outlook), and for a recurring meditator it can be achieved in your present lifetime.

If one has already lived a few lifetimes, even if one has never meditated, and now sets foot on this path for the first time, I do believe one can get there in 40-50 years of dedication to Spiritual Satanism under tutelage of the Gods.

That all may sound like a very long time, but consider that after reaching the MO you can live for an eternity, the time required to get there is just a blink of your eyes in the long run, while the rewards are unfathomably great.
 

Man, maybe I'm just optimistic and don't want it to be that long, but I highly doubt that's the case. HPS Maxine, even assuming she was extremely advanced from past lives, as HP Cobra shared that she may have been a top priestess in a past life, she's at MO stage 2 already in about 20 years time, while taking care of the JoS, working, and taking care of a family.

I dont have the time to look for the post, but I know HPS Shannon shared Azazel had told her that the average SS given ample opportunity to advance(I understood it to be free time in their days) could raise the serpent in 7 years and finish the MO in 10. Now that seems a bit too optimistic :D, but I can swear to you that's what she said, maybe later I can find the post.

Everyone is individual and giving exact time frames in years is absurd as it won't work for everyone, but I don't think its supposed to take that long.
 
Hesffcs115 said:
Can I get the runes audio mp3 please?

https://joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Odin.html

They have been included on the runes Page.
 
Powerofjustice said:

Man, maybe I'm just optimistic and don't want it to be that long, but I highly doubt that's the case. HPS Maxine, even assuming she was extremely advanced from past lives, as HP Cobra shared that she may have been a top priestess in a past life, she's at MO stage 2 already in about 20 years time, while taking care of the JoS, working, and taking care of a family.

I dont have the time to look for the post, but I know HPS Shannon shared Azazel had told her that the average SS given ample opportunity to advance(I understood it to be free time in their days) could raise the serpent in 7 years and finish the MO in 10. Now that seems a bit too optimistic :D, but I can swear to you that's what she said, maybe later I can find the post.

Everyone is individual and giving exact time frames in years is absurd as it won't work for everyone, but I don't think its supposed to take that long.

You cannot compare HPS Maxine to anyone else really. Comparing between people is also not useful, since it is an individual path.

Everyone does find their own way, and works towards the MO differently.

HPS Maxine is undoubtedly a highly advanced soul who has reincarnated in present times. Likely she had her first incarnation hundreds or even thousands of years before xianity.

It is not for me to know such private things, however before xianity happened HPS Maxine was likely already on the MO stage 1 at least, possibly even higher already.

During the dark age there was little advancement to be done, so likely she was unable to advance much during that time, and with all the curses she likely did face backlash and setbacks, but was now able to finish what she started due to true spirituality once again being available on Earth.

Maxine worked this life over 30 years on herself, while already being exceptionally advanced to begin with. She has in reality done work for hundreds of years already. Many lifetimes went into this for her, though if not for xianity she wouldn't have been delayed and would have completed the MO more than a thousand years ago.

I write what I wrote to give a sense of realism and to give realistic expectations.

Most people will not achieve half the spiritual advancement of what Maxine has in 30 years, in their entire life.

I know it will take me more than 30 years, even though the chance to reach it is there.

I am working to complete the MO this lifetime, but in my own case it too has been a long time, since way before xianity I have been in pursuit of this...

There's many of us who are the same regarding this. If it was easy to reach the MO, we wouldn't be here anymore.

To start it from scratch or with a much lower starting point, the reality is, it will take a long time.

However, the time it takes is not important, as the pursuit is worthwhile and a magnificent process.
 
Oh nvm, i think i did some runes the “Raum”. Surya kinda hard though, i sound weird as fuck when i sounded like that.

Still Learning though still learning, thinking about buying my own ritual. Candles.

Do you need a robe too? Orr just gotta make a home made one?

Just asking.
 
Primal said:
Is it normal to literally feel heat throughout your body as you do yoga? I mean holy hell, even my weightlifting warmups never give me those sharp sensations of heat all over my body. I can't even attribute it to physical movement in general because before doing the yoga routine that I just did, I performed some flexibility training for the sake of weightlifting and nothing like that happened until the yoga routine.

What you experience here, which can be attributed to the energy movement throughout your body, is one of the reasons which yoga differs from traditional exercise and is basically the answer to your other thread as to why more people do not specifically train their muscles.

It is not that the benefits of powerlifting are not there, it is just that we have a limited amount of time. Only yoga stimulates the soul to a high degree, whereas powerlifting is constrained more towards muscular and physical development. Due to time constraints, we are forced to choose. 30-60 minutes per day, or other similar routine, of full-body muscular training is more suited for our tastes, rather than 2 hours of isolated lifts, if that makes sense.

There are also concerns of imbalance from weightlifting or problems like joint stress and such. Nobody wants to conflict with what sounds like a big part of your life and personality, it is just that we have to use better tools when our goal is manipulation of the energies of the soul itself, not just the muscles only.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Missrainbow1 said:
Hi everyone)
I have a question)
How much time does it take for a human being to reach the Godhead?

I don't know for sure. It depends a lot of how much you work towards this in your lives.

I suspect it is possible within a few lifetimes if someone is able to focus on their advancement consistently for multiple lifetimes in a row without too much setbacks.

I know a bunch of us here today have been very delayed due to xianity. We have people here who have existed since before xianity came to be, but hadn't managed to reach the MO yet back then.

Xianity created severe setbacks and ruined the spiritual path for many of us the past two thousand years. If not for that, many of us today would have reached the MO hundreds of years ago.


I suspect the average time could be anywhere between a few thousand years to a few hundred. (Between a few dozen lifetimes to 4 or 5 on the fastest).

However I do not know for certain, and this is my speculation only.

That said, your soul can gain great longevity and reach a high level of advancement relatively quickly, like stage 1 of the MO which will empower your soul greatly and prevent dissipation for many lifetimes, even if one goes through a difficult era where advancement is nigh impossible.

Stage 1 of the MO is achievable within 2 or 3 lifetimes (possibly even in your first you have good guidance and happen to be very dedicated to advancement, but young souls are less likely to stick so closely to a path that has such an unfathomable outlook), and for a recurring meditator it can be achieved in your present lifetime.

If one has already lived a few lifetimes, even if one has never meditated, and now sets foot on this path for the first time, I do believe one can get there in 40-50 years of dedication to Spiritual Satanism under tutelage of the Gods.

That all may sound like a very long time, but consider that after reaching the MO you can live for an eternity, the time required to get there is just a blink of your eyes in the long run, while the rewards are unfathomably great.
Thank you)Actually it is not long at all)I thought it would be few thousand years)))))
 
Ayedoubles said:
What does runes actually do? I never bothers with these

Mostly just aura cleaning and protection. Void meditation,, and sometimes satan meditation “Meditation from Satan”

The runes represent a type of energy. They are similar to planetary energies in some ways, but you will notice some are unique. They are like tools for helping you solve your problems.

You already use solar energy for aura cleaning. This is similar to the Sowilo rune.

Solar energies can be used for protection as well, since it burns negativity and can be combative. However, runes like Algiz can also be strong candidates for an AOP, due to its shielding properties. Yet, Algiz cannot empower us in the same way that Sowilo can.

If your AOP consists of energy breathing, one good way to introduce the use of runes to yourself would be to create a stronger AOP with the use of Algiz, such as chanting is 45 times, with the same affirmation. 45 is a multiple of the number of Algiz.

Another example can of a rune-based AOP can be found here: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=393417#p393417

This one is good for defending against the enemy specifically, as opposed to general negativity from the planets or something.

I would highly encourage you to study both the runes and astrology, as both will give you a working knowledge of the tools you have, and where you may want to apply them.
 
Ayedoubles said:
Oh nvm, i think i did some runes the “Raum”. Surya kinda hard though, i sound weird as fuck when i sounded like that.

Still Learning though still learning, thinking about buying my own ritual. Candles.

Do you need a robe too? Orr just gotta make a home made one?

Just asking.
What you think you sound like is one of the most nonsensical things to pay mind to. You sound like you sound and it's totally fine. Raum and Surya are very good Sanskrit mantras to use. They are not runes. Maybe you can try them out later date when you have grown.

Candles, robes and so forth are optional. There is no requirement for props. Props are only required if you wish to make a formal ceremony. However, you can make a formal ceremony without any props as well.
 
Henu the Great said:
Ayedoubles said:
Oh nvm, i think i did some runes the “Raum”. Surya kinda hard though, i sound weird as fuck when i sounded like that.

Still Learning though still learning, thinking about buying my own ritual. Candles.

Do you need a robe too? Orr just gotta make a home made one?

Just asking.
What you think you sound like is one of the most nonsensical things to pay mind to. You sound like you sound and it's totally fine. Raum and Surya are very good Sanskrit mantras to use. They are not runes. Maybe you can try them out later date when you have grown.

Candles, robes and so forth are optional. There is no requirement for props. Props are only required if you wish to make a formal ceremony. However, you can make a formal ceremony without any props as well.

Okay thanks for the reply. Blitzkreig [JG] And Henu the great

So I gotta Learn about Runes and astrology. So ok what is saturn squares? Is it bad? Or just gotta be careful what i’m doing while doing astrology and mediating.
 
Ayedoubles said:
Okay thanks for the reply. Blitzkreig [JG] And Henu the great

So I gotta Learn about Runes and astrology. So ok what is saturn squares? Is it bad? Or just gotta be careful what i’m doing while doing astrology and mediating.
Saturn squares are like other squares, ie. numerologically organized mantra repetitions for a number of days. Although Saturn square can cause issues for some people due to their unpreparedness. Personally, I have had good experiences with Saturn squares, but I can not recommend them to just anyone without a question. For you, I would not advise it because I do not know if you are not ready for it.
 
Henu the Great said:
Ayedoubles said:
Okay thanks for the reply. Blitzkreig [JG] And Henu the great

So I gotta Learn about Runes and astrology. So ok what is saturn squares? Is it bad? Or just gotta be careful what i’m doing while doing astrology and mediating.
Saturn squares are like other squares, ie. numerologically organized mantra repetitions for a number of days. Although Saturn square can cause issues for some people due to their unpreparedness. Personally, I have had good experiences with Saturn squares, but I can not recommend them to just anyone without a question. For you, I would not advise it because I do not know if you are not ready for it.

Not ready yet just gonna practice runes and other easy of meditations first. Then move on advance levels, it make take years eh?. I could meditate over 20 minutes or 30 minutes just by void meditation. So not ready yet.

First of all, i know how to summon a demon, just got the whole pdfs joy of satans. And so you just gonna go through satan first and ask for the guardian god?

I always curious about that.
 
Primal said:
Can I pay someone here to read my astrology chart please? I don't know what I'm looking at.

But yes, I wrote the correct numbers and dates and stuff. The astrology chart I have is as accurate as can be, I think. I'm struggling right now though. Both Joy of Satan information and outside information is just confusing the heck out of me.

If you did your chart on JoS astro you can click on the individual planets and go to info and it will tell you some basic information about you.

It's not as advanced as a personal reading but it is much better than any other tool online.
 
I've noticed over the years people mentioning to XYZ person to do a Freeing the Soul; Runic or Sanskirt.

My question is What counts and how do I know when to free the soul?

I'm aware of PowerofJustice's mentioning and others freeing/cleaning/protecting = very important to bring in higher vibrations and energies.

But my question What determines freeing the Soul?

I ask myself the question and I get barraged by dozens of sensations and intuitive thoughts. Going if I free my soul it's going to take months if not years to free myself of everything. Am I approaching this wrong am I supposed to sublimate things rather than free for certain things?

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Also if my visualization is poor when cleaning. Why is it I visualize better eyes open especially if the sun or a white-gold bulb(solar color near 6500k). If I close my eyes it's just darkness and this kinda hazy, greyish tone of visualization.

Sometimes when I'm not paying attention and visualizing directly I can "See" the image even floating in front of my eyes like a dream for a solid 1/4th maybe 1/2 a second, enough to register before it fades away.

What constitutes as cleaning? Am I supposed to be in a trance alpha/theta and visualize from there?

Am I actually cleaning or just performing a visual exercise? I don't know why people state they feel cleaner; I feel the same as before.

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Is trance the only way to get ahead. What is trance in terms of JoS and meditation; void, mindful, and power?

I've known about this phenomena for decades but never been in. I know it's not exactly sleep but not, not exactly sleep.

Thus by diving down alpha/theta and meditating on it expanding my consciousness to cover the sleep state and remain awake and do energy work?

As someone with no reference to trances in a meditative position. Can someone care to explain trance in terms of meditation and visualization?

Am I going to go dive down when I learn power meditate and empower my soul tremendously compared to beta state?

Can I enter a trance and remain in motion like when doing Yoga or something? Or is a trance broken by any movement or thought or sensation?

How is trance when it comes to void? Can I think in a trance? is it like a dream the second I gain consciousness a countdown starts and I wake up some seconds, minutes later and go had a lucid dream but not for long.
 
Ludwick said:
Little time to expand at this time of posting, Sagittarius has been a real bitch towards me, alot of bad luck beginning on the 23rd of last month.

I hear that Sagittarius has to do with conflict and resolution, but it has been too much conflict and too little resolution (seriously, what even resolved?)

I need to desperately defeat Sagittarius and make certain I hide out from it when November 22 begins again. . . and again.
Uhh, help?
 
Ludwick said:
Ludwick said:
Little time to expand at this time of posting, Sagittarius has been a real bitch towards me, alot of bad luck beginning on the 23rd of last month.

I hear that Sagittarius has to do with conflict and resolution, but it has been too much conflict and too little resolution (seriously, what even resolved?)

I need to desperately defeat Sagittarius and make certain I hide out from it when November 22 begins again. . . and again.
Uhh, help?
If the problems/conflict you are talking about is related to your natal house on which Sagittarius is on the cusp you can do a jupiter square to sublimate it.

If not, depending on the situation, you can try to fix it, maybe a freeing the soul working.

If what I said above are both incorrect regarding what you are going through I'd suggest to make a new topic and elaborate a little.
 
Primal said:
Is HP Hooded Cobra available for email conversations? Or at least anyone as high-ranking as he is? If it's gonna be not HP, HP has to vouch for him.

I just need to talk to a spiritual advisor I can trust... And there are no Satanic counselors around my community.


I can be contacted at [email protected].

I try my best to answer. If there are a little delayed responses, please be understanding.
 
I probably should leave my question here.

I responded to Shadowcat's thread here with a detailed explanation of something that happened recently:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=403619#p403619

In short I'm really worried about enemy attacks because of RTRs as I live in a house with kids. One of them was attacked by a grey.

Is there anything I can do to prevent this? I'm thinking AoPs on the kids and Abraxas ritual. I just worry because I'm not very advanced and these kids are in a vulnerable situation.

Any tips would be wonderful. Thank you for your time!
 
sublimestatanist said:
I probably should leave my question here.

I responded to Shadowcat's thread here with a detailed explanation of something that happened recently:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=403619#p403619

In short I'm really worried about enemy attacks because of RTRs as I live in a house with kids. One of them was attacked by a grey.

Is there anything I can do to prevent this? I'm thinking AoPs on the kids and Abraxas ritual. I just worry because I'm not very advanced and these kids are in a vulnerable situation.

Any tips would be wonderful. Thank you for your time!

The Gods do help in situations like this where you may be overwhelmed and facing danger. What you described earlier could have just been the kids getting alarmed, but the brunt of the emotional damage was still put on your shoulders. Maybe you can talk to them and see what happened exactly.

As an SS, you will still face the majority of attacks and curses, as you are the powerful soul who is combating the enemy. The enemy does not have infinite resources to attack every single one of your undefended family members.

You can do a broad AOP across the kids, such as with Berkano. The Abrasax ritual is also useful, as you understood. It is also important that you yourself keep a strong AOP. Your AOP should probably be increased if you are getting visions of greys or other negative events.

I have always maintained a very strong AOP. Very few times have I experienced attacks, and these were just bad dreams or thoughts. Although this may be overkill for some people, I use x111 Algiz for a general AOP, then 48x (Saulo + Thaur), programmed to deflect curses against the enemy.

I think it is important that you are able to be calm here and understand the situation is not so far out of your control then you may assume. An extra 15-30 minutes of protective work, spread between both you and the kids, will likely resolve this.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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The Gods do help in situations like this where you may be overwhelmed and facing danger. What you described earlier could have just been the kids getting alarmed, but the brunt of the emotional damage was still put on your shoulders. Maybe you can talk to them and see what happened exactly.

As an SS, you will still face the majority of attacks and curses, as you are the powerful soul who is combating the enemy. The enemy does not have infinite resources to attack every single one of your undefended family members.

You can do a broad AOP across the kids, such as with Berkano. The Abrasax ritual is also useful, as you understood. It is also important that you yourself keep a strong AOP. Your AOP should probably be increased if you are getting visions of greys or other negative events.

I have always maintained a very strong AOP. Very few times have I experienced attacks, and these were just bad dreams or thoughts. Although this may be overkill for some people, I use x111 Algiz for a general AOP, then 48x (Saulo + Thaur), programmed to deflect curses against the enemy.

I think it is important that you are able to be calm here and understand the situation is not so far out of your control then you may assume. An extra 15-30 minutes of protective work, spread between both you and the kids, will likely resolve this.

This was very relieving to me, thank you Blitzkreig! The kids seem fine. I'll start adding an AoP to them to help out and use those runes for empowerment.

Should I chant the runes after building up energy for the AoP or before?

Also, one more little question. Is it right that I should do an AoP after the RTRs and cleaning? I've read somewhere that doing it before prevents some of the curses from getting removed as effectively.

Thanks again for your great expertise here! It truly made my day.
 
sublimestatanist said:
Should I chant the runes after building up energy for the AoP or before?

Also, one more little question. Is it right that I should do an AoP after the RTRs and cleaning? I've read somewhere that doing it before prevents some of the curses from getting removed as effectively.

Thanks again for your great expertise here! It truly made my day.

The chanting of the runes creates the energy which you then direct and program into an AOP. When you vibrate a mantra, the vibration generates that energy through your soul. Focus on this fact, and the rune itself, while you vibrate and you should feel it in the same way as when you do energy breathing or other methods for raising energy.

Doing an AOP before does not prevent the curses from being removed. This is where it is important to use your intention. If someone thinks an AOP somehow blocks negative energy within them, then it would. However, then this energy field cannot be called an AOP if it is actually damaging you. Remember to always think positive about these things.

The most that could happen is if you tire yourself by doing these three activities one after another, but this is dependent on the individual. All this would require is to do some sort of empowerment in between, such as a breathing exercise.
 
Ayedoubles said:
Not ready yet just gonna practice runes and other easy of meditations first. Then move on advance levels, it make take years eh?. I could meditate over 20 minutes or 30 minutes just by void meditation. So not ready yet.
It all depends on your goals and the rate of advancement.

First of all, i know how to summon a demon, just got the whole pdfs joy of satans. And so you just gonna go through satan first and ask for the guardian god?

I always curious about that.
You can summon a Demon directly or through Satan. In cases where there is less of a connection, it is better to go through Satan or your Guardian.
 
Primal said:
I don't mean to be too forward but can I request to have my account's waiting-for-approval post rule to be taken off? I'm here to stick it to the last. I feel like having that restriction really slows down my flow of thinking as I post.
You would have to directly contact Hoodedcobra either by quoting him so he notices or by e-mailing him.

That being said I don't see why a new account should receive this privilege. We don't know you yet as you have not proven yourself yet. As far as I know, everyone with this privilege has proven themselves in our community to be trustworthy and valuable in one way or another.

Ludwick said:
Little time to expand at this time of posting, Sagittarius has been a real bitch towards me, alot of bad luck beginning on the 23rd of last month.

I hear that Sagittarius has to do with conflict and resolution, but it has been too much conflict and too little resolution (seriously, what even resolved?)

I need to desperately defeat Sagittarius and make certain I hide out from it when November 22 begins again. . . and again.
There are specific countermeasures that were relayed to you before, but I have to ask do you do basic meditations such as cleaning and protection every day? Do you participate in spiritual warfare? Having an active schedule on a daily means that those specific measures have a better chance of manifesting (as you know what you are doing instead of not) and by itself would have a positive effect on your life.

You should also clarify what kind of problems you are facing so we can instruct you better.
 
I didn’t understood a few points. When a satanist die and then reincarnate, is the conscious part of himself die ?
What’s exactly the « ego » ? Does that mean that only thing we keep is a backup of ourselves (the unconscious part) ? In that case, a better version of ourselves will be built but we truly die, no ?
 
Boko99 said:
I didn’t understood a few points. When a satanist die and then reincarnate, is the conscious part of himself die ?
What’s exactly the « ego » ? Does that mean that only thing we keep is a backup of ourselves (the unconscious part) ? In that case, a better version of ourselves will be built but we truly die, no ?

Your conscious and your mind are never ended. As the body dies, the consciousness and the mind are continuing to exist inside of your soul, and they go out of the body. You will feel and experience your soul and consciousness leaving the body. And there is a strange feeling as the body is dying, on the soul level it is like the body burns like a rocket engine as all of the energy is all removed from the body, and all of this energy is put into the soul to make the soul stronger.

Then when your soul and consciousness are outside of the body and you are standing or laying next to your old body, gods will come to you to protect and guide you. And you will go with the gods and they will take you to where the gods live.

You will spend some amount of time living with the gods. Then when the time is right and the baby of your new body is about to be born, and all of the astrological alignments around the earth are forces that are very similar to the forces of your soul. Your soul will be sent through space and sent to earth, and your soul will go into your new body.

Your consciousness stays together with the soul for all of this time, and you will consciously experience all of this. But most people will not remember any of this once they are in the new body. Most people forget anything from before the time in the current body.
 
Ok thanks for your answer, it reassures me a lot.
So what is the part (ego-male ?) that we replace at each reincarnation ? A part of our consciousness ? A part of our temper ?
Secondary point, do you mean that we are conscious during the growth of the fetus ? Or it’s like we are « asleep » and our past is blocked from us until the MO ?
 
Boko99 said:
Ok thanks for your answer, it reassures me a lot.
So what is the part (ego-male ?) that we replace at each reincarnation ? A part of our consciousness ? A part of our temper ?
Secondary point, do you mean that we are conscious during the growth of the fetus ? Or it’s like we are « asleep » and our past is blocked from us until the MO ?

I am not sure if anything is replaced at each reincarnation besides the body. During reincarnation, the astrological alignments will be very similar to the energies of your own soul. The largest things will be the same. But some smaller influences could be different. So you could gain or lose some small things about your personality. Or some less important things could be increased or decreased compared to the time in the previous body. So it could be that a part of your temper is lost if your new birth chart in the new body has less angry energy.


While the fetus is growing it is like it is in a deep sleep or hibernation. It is not aware of everything that is happening. I am not sure exactly when the soul and consciousness enters the body. And maybe after the soul enters, there is a time of sleeping in the new body.
 
I started my moon square tonight but may have ran into a problem

what happened was I ended realizing a counting error after doing the affirmation.
So the total reps are correct but 2 more were done a minute after the affirmation.

My energy was in a risen state and I didn't utter any other words in that minute or so that elapsed...
so is it ruined or not?
 
Asurya said:
I started my moon square tonight but may have ran into a problem

what happened was I ended realizing a counting error after doing the affirmation.
So the total reps are correct but 2 more were done a minute after the affirmation.

My energy was in a risen state and I didn't utter any other words in that minute or so that elapsed...
so is it ruined or not?

You are fine.
 
Asurya said:
I started my moon square tonight but may have ran into a problem

what happened was I ended realizing a counting error after doing the affirmation.
So the total reps are correct but 2 more were done a minute after the affirmation.

My energy was in a risen state and I didn't utter any other words in that minute or so that elapsed...
so is it ruined or not?

What matters with squares is that the correct number of reps is programmed for that day. If you were 2 short before you programmed it, then I believe it would violate this rule.

If you had recognized this error right before affirming, then it would have been fine, but since you programmed that specific amount of energy, I believe it violated the numerological basis for the square.

Maybe others can chime in here, but I am pretty certain about this. You can ask the Gods as well and hopefully get an answer in time.

As far as your options, you can instead restart a normal 40 day working with the same lunar energy. Pick a number of reps that is ok for you to do daily and continue this for 40 or 80 days. In January, there is an opportunity to do another Moon Square, on the Cancer Esbat.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Asurya said:
So the total reps are correct but 2 more were done a minute after the affirmation.
You are fine.

I think this statement definitely makes it questionable. If I understand it correctly, he did something like this:

Instead of doing 20 reps for the day, he did 18 then did his affirmation. 1 minute passed before he realized what was wrong, then he did 2 more reps.

From my understanding of squares, he added the wrong number of reps into his square, thereby violating it.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Ol argedco luciftias said:
Asurya said:
So the total reps are correct but 2 more were done a minute after the affirmation.
You are fine.

I think this statement definitely makes it questionable. If I understand it correctly, he did something like this:

Instead of doing 20 reps for the day, he did 18 then did his affirmation. 1 minute passed before he realized what was wrong, then he did 2 more reps.

From my understanding of squares, he added the wrong number of reps into his square, thereby violating it.

If he kept his focus and his feeling of the energy for that minute, then it most likely is fine. Would have been good if he also did more affirmations at the end.

I have made similar kinds of small mistakes before with squares, and the square still worked in the end. As long as the total number ends up being correct, and the focus is kept the whole time.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

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