Are italians mixed with other races?

[Aquarius]

In the "how to identify yehuborim" pdf it's written that most people especially in the mediterranean are mixed with at least 2 races, is this true? I feel like this is not true but I don't really have any proof for that and I would like to understand the situation more.

 

[Carnifex Law]

Speaking specifically within the white race, any whites who are not blonde, blue-eyed and fair-skinned, are mixed. Black hair, red hair, brown hair, brown eyes, etc, are all traits of other human races.
However, if most traits in the individual are white, they are still considered white, even with some percentage of blood from other races (except yehuborim).

Also, just to not make any confusion, there are also yehuborim who may look blonde, blue-eyed and fair-skinned, so these traits may not immediately mean that the individual is a white gentile.

Hope this helps.

oh man shut the hell up . You people are incurable. Im starting to think some of you are rabble rousers working for the other side. If you are not, your stupidity is beyond salvation since this question has been dealt with many times and ... Satan himself has family members who do not fit your criteria of what a white person looks like.
Now I understand I just called you stupid... And this makes you mad. So you may now type.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Red hair is also originally a 100% pure white trait. The highest royalty of the global vedic kingdom from Lemuria, Egypt, and other places often had red hair. There were also many different shades of blonde. Some of the blonde shades were more closer to brown than what we now commonly call blonde, but they weren't the very dark brown like what came from mixing.

 

[Dypet Rod]

Satan himself has family members who do not fit your criteria of what a white person looks like.

We're talking about humans here. So you wanna compare Satan and his direct relatives' race to the human races? Like humans and alien nordics (as well as other races of Gods) are the same?
Moreover, comparing Gods who can change their traits to their liking, to mortal humans who can't?
It's ironic how I'm the one to be called "stupid" here in the end.

And fyi, what I mentioned is from a sermon by Pythia herself.

By the way, aren't you the same dude who got butthurt because Zola said Sorath and Andras sang a jazz song to her? It's even more ironic that someone who will insult other members for such petty reasons is suggesting here that I'm "working for the other side". If you don't agree with what another Zevism says, simply debate it. But no goy, I'll call you stupid, tell you to stfu and stir infighting. Way to go.

 

[Dypet Rod]

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And by the way, if you failed to understand the part about most traits being white, then I'm not to blame. I'm only responsible for what I write, not for what you understand.

Whites who have brown hair, brown eyes, etc, are still considered white as long as the rest of their traits are of a white person.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/666BlackSun/conversations/topics/3564

 

[Carnifex Law]

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And by the way, if you failed to understand the part about most traits being white, then I'm not to blame. I'm only responsible for what I write, not for what you understand.

Whites who have brown hair, brown eyes, etc, are still considered white as long as the rest of their traits are of a white person.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/666BlackSun/conversations/topics/3564

I wont discuss this issue no longer since clearly this issue belongs to the realm of the extrasensorial capabilities.
But when people tell me italians are a product of Race mixing and not a distinct phenotype on its own, this makes me raise questions about your perception. This can easily be seen especialy in more celebrated people such as eusebio di Francesco , Totti or Barbara ovieni, its a distinct tribe. with traits remniscent of a dantesc dimension. Even their blue eyes are of a saturnian quality different from their nordic peers.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Another typically Italian, tending to be an actual definition, is this. This type of phenotype can also be encountered in Spain and is White European:

 

[Dypet Rod]

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This is really informative. I'm an Italian descendant myself, and some of these people really have traits like mine.
Thank you for sharing, HP.

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Perhaps the thing is you have somewhat of a problem with the idea of being mixed, as though it were something unnaceptable. But well, HP Zevios Metathronos really covered this best.
All I would add is, we're not to blame if our ancestors mixed at some point. nor does that make us less white, like HP Zevios Metathronos already emphasized, too.

 

[Carnifex Law]

I apreciate that HP. You draw the line perfectly.
And so that people understand Im not defending those middle easterlooking mediterraneans. Its in the nuances absolutely.

 

[Aquarius]

Thanks for the many answers, I completely disagree though with the idea that 100% gingers have black descendants.

Also, what is everyone’s opinion of having relationships with people of different subraces? I don’t have a fully formed idea on the fact, I myself am part italian and part belarussian and i can clearly see some slavic in my face when looking pictures ecc this got me confused on what I am more, what I know is that I am fully white so when asking myself what I feel more I just go with “I’m white that’s what it matters”.

@bluelight Methamorphosis is going good, but the read is slow and the time is lacking, it’s a complex text and I’m learning new words every 2 lines lol so in let’s say 1 hour i may have read 20-30 satisfying pages haha

 

[luis]

On man you are such a gooo goy. The narrative is up their with the likes of Dr. Nosebergs and all his affiliates. Shekelstein applauds.

Are you bloody kidding me? HP Zevios comes and says that almost all whites have some history of mixing and you do this shit? I was just saying that he shouldn't stress over it that much and focus on the more important stuff!

No, not all Whites. Be specific here. I have illustrated my points above.

Swedish, Scandinavians, and many others, have been unadultered for thousands of years. Also, many Germanics. They are very clear Nordic types.

The more one goes to the South, you will see White Sub races, who have, at some point in time (Irrelevant as it's too far in the past) have some sort of small admixture.

Within all of the above countries, you will find marginal percents of people who are really not the native phenotype. I have illustrated this above.

But Black hair and Black eyes it's something some Whites have naturaly, right? The other races are not as *diverse* in these things as us.

 

[Dypet Rod]

Thanks for the info, I really thought the idea of whites with red head and freckles was complete bullshit but linking that sermon helped, this shows my ignorance towards genetics :/

You're welcome, we're always learning something new.

And as for your other question about getting intimate with other white sub-races, I ahd asked the same question on that Yahoo thread back then xD. Another user replied to me with her opinion that as long as we're like "90%" white (the percentage is just for easy illustration), it's okay; and Pythia basically confirmed her opinion. So yes, I believe what matters is that both partners are mostly of the same race.

 

[BlueLight]

Thanks for the many answers, I completely disagree though with the idea that 100% gingers have black descendants.

Also, what is everyone’s opinion of having relationships with people of different subraces? I don’t have a fully formed idea on the fact, I myself am part italian and part belarussian and i can clearly see some slavic in my face when looking pictures ecc this got me confused on what I am more, what I know is that I am fully white so when asking myself what I feel more I just go with “I’m white that’s what it matters”.

@bluelight Methamorphosis is going good, but the read is slow and the time is lacking, it’s a complex text and I’m learning new words every 2 lines lol so in let’s say 1 hour i may have read 20-30 satisfying pages haha

They had a pretty difficult style back then. But it is rewarding. I also lack the time to go into some deep reading since in a few months I'll have the Baccalaureate and there's some huge pressure from that as well. I'm in a Philology high school but I plan on going for a programming career once I'm done with this. That means we do have two classes of Latin per week, but we don't really focus on the language itself. If anything, we're more oriented towards the culture and the mythology.

Publius Ovidius Naso did have an interesting life - but a lot of people consider his work during the exile to be lacking compared to his best creations.

 

[Taol]

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On another note, people with red hair and freckles are part black. I have seen several blacks who were light-skinned, freckled and had tinges of red hair.

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Now as for the Irish people who seem to have smooth "red hair", I would say that this is rather a shade of blonde. Such as strawberry-blonde, like Egon himself also suggested in that thread. This may not exactly classify as red hair. This is what I meant when I mentioned a "reddish shade" of blonde. In mummies, this tone may also have been intensified with the "aging" of the corpse.

When growing up there was a family in my street whom excisted of only red haired people. They had an excessive amount of energy when it came to playing and whatnot, but I can definetily say that in no way their hair was as coarse as in any of the pictures mentioned. Rather, more straight and/or wavy type.
Though it seems the pipe curls may be more common with them. But this can also occur to some people in families whose parents dont seemingly have curly hair.

Red hair, Green eyes.

I do not think that that statement in the sermon is entirely true. Because nowhere in their physique did they resemble someone from another race at all.

As for the color, I don't have a reference as to what one would call 'strawberry blonde' but I'd say the color was pretty much the same as the ones shown in the 'course hair' ones.

 

[Valontuoja]

It's interesting how most red haired people are claimed to live in the Irish-Scottish areas of the British Isles and the republic of Udmurtia in the Russian federation.

I searched on google for the images Dypet Rod posted and found a VICE article about race-mixed red heads. Those are very likely what Pythia was referencing not your normal looking "red head" White people who actually could be a different shade of blonde. Another interesting claim is made by an article on Beyond Russia web page:

Most of the Udmurts from the north and from the south live along the Kama and Vyatka Rivers in the Udmurt Republic, just like they did several centuries ago. In 2010 during the All-Russian Census there were 552,000 Udmurts. In the 17th century the Siberian road passed through the northern part of the republic. It was the old land trading route from European Russia to the Chinese border. This is mainly why the northern Udmurts are considered more “Russified” than the southern ones. This is the first difference.

The second is appearance. In the south the Udmurts have red hair and blue eyes, while in the north they have dark hair and dark eyes. The third difference is character: The southerners are open and the northerners are closed. The fourth dividing element is faith. Although most Udmurts converted to Orthodoxy in the middle of the 18th century, there are many more pagan villages in the south than in the Russified Orthodox north.

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/exq5jp/documenting-black-and-mixed-race-gingers-243
https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/326986-who-russias-udmurts-story

 

[Dypet Rod]

It's interesting how most red haired people are claimed to live in the Irish-Scottish areas of the British Isles and the republic of Udmurtia in the Russian federation.

I searched on google for the images Dypet Rod posted and found a VICE article about race-mixed red heads. Those are very likely what Pythia was referencing not your normal looking "red head" White people who actually could be a different shade of blonde. Another interesting claim is made by an article on Beyond Russia web page:

Most of the Udmurts from the north and from the south live along the Kama and Vyatka Rivers in the Udmurt Republic, just like they did several centuries ago. In 2010 during the All-Russian Census there were 552,000 Udmurts. In the 17th century the Siberian road passed through the northern part of the republic. It was the old land trading route from European Russia to the Chinese border. This is mainly why the northern Udmurts are considered more “Russified” than the southern ones. This is the first difference.

The second is appearance. In the south the Udmurts have red hair and blue eyes, while in the north they have dark hair and dark eyes. The third difference is character: The southerners are open and the northerners are closed. The fourth dividing element is faith. Although most Udmurts converted to Orthodoxy in the middle of the 18th century, there are many more pagan villages in the south than in the Russified Orthodox north.

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/exq5jp/documenting-black-and-mixed-race-gingers-243
https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/326986-who-russias-udmurts-story

Thanks for sharing, brother. This is indeed a curious finding, and it adds more to the theory.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

It's possible that some red haired people could have had some small amount of African dna in them long long ago, like this has happened with some other white populations too. But I still extremely doubt that all of them have mixed or that the red hair or their skin is any example of African dna. I think these traits are 100% white. BUT it is possible that if there is any miniscule amount of African dna in anyone of them, it could show through more than it would show with some other white populations. Since their features are so recessive, the other introduced traits would stick out more and maybe not blend in as well as could happen with some other white populations.

I think also the idea of Convergence Evolution is very important to remember here. This is so extremely common in the history of development of so many human populations, and all kinds of animals, in the last hundreds of thousands of years. 2 absolutely seperate groups have a similar problem that they need to adapt to and overcome, so they end up independently gaining solutions to the problem, which can end up looking like they have this similar trait to each other, but really there has been no connection between them. And if you look at the dna code of the trait, you see the similar looking traits are created in completely different ways in each group. Just a coincidence. Like two computer programmers on opposite sides of the world who can write 2 completly different codes that perform the same function, just because the end result may do a similar job doesn't mean they worked together on it. Things like this have happened in probably every population throughout their history, in some form at least.

With the huge climate change at the end of the last ice age, the world got much warmer and brighter. You see with these red haired groups they are so pale they almost can't even go into direct sunlight sometimes, simply because throughout their whole history they basically never have. They were always in deep forests and dark cloudy places in the ice age. So with the ice age ending, the cloudy skies dissipating, and moving out of the dark forests, they were forced to adapt to much brighter conditions. So some of them have developed the freckles to protect against this new brightness as a protective adaptation. Because they can't just continue having zero melanin then go out in the sun like it's nothing, they would fry. I absolutely do not think this has anything to do with any kind of African dna. Ostrich birds have very long muscular legs, I guess humans must have mixed with ostriches thousands of years ago because look you can clearly see these long muscular legs are somewhat similar to our own long legs.

I can't read that old article because I don't have a yahoo account and I'm not going to make one. But I assume Pythia meant it more like a "this is an interesting thought, what do you think about it?" Kind of discussion, instead of a "this is absolute fact you have to memorize" Kind of thing. And either way, she still could have been wrong. With all possible respect, everyone is wrong some times and Pythia has been wrong before too about some things. If you hear something, you still have to think about it and decide if it's really true, doesn't matter who it's coming from. Just because Pythia may have possibly said that one of the palest whitest populations in existence is secretly full of african dna doesn't make it true. Sounds just like that Ancient Black Swedes movie they just made.

 

[Valontuoja]

Here is archived version of the Yahoo discussion for those who don't have Yahoo account:
http://www.groups-archive.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=84223

 

[Dypet Rod]

It's possible that some red haired people could have had some small amount of African dna in them long long ago, like this has happened with some other white populations too. But I still extremely doubt that all of them have mixed or that the red hair or their skin is any example of African dna. I think these traits are 100% white. BUT it is possible that if there is any miniscule amount of African dna in anyone of them, it could show through more than it would show with some other white populations. Since their features are so recessive, the other introduced traits would stick out more and maybe not blend in as well as could happen with some other white populations.

I think also the idea of Convergence Evolution is very important to remember here. This is so extremely common in the history of development of so many human populations, and all kinds of animals, in the last hundreds of thousands of years. 2 absolutely seperate groups have a similar problem that they need to adapt to and overcome, so they end up independently gaining solutions to the problem, which can end up looking like they have this similar trait to each other, but really there has been no connection between them. And if you look at the dna code of the trait, you see the similar looking traits are created in completely different ways in each group. Just a coincidence. Like two computer programmers on opposite sides of the world who can write 2 completly different codes that perform the same function, just because the end result may do a similar job doesn't mean they worked together on it. Things like this have happened in probably every population throughout their history, in some form at least.

With the huge climate change at the end of the last ice age, the world got much warmer and brighter. You see with these red haired groups they are so pale they almost can't even go into direct sunlight sometimes, simply because throughout their whole history they basically never have. They were always in deep forests and dark cloudy places in the ice age. So with the ice age ending, the cloudy skies dissipating, and moving out of the dark forests, they were forced to adapt to much brighter conditions. So some of them have developed the freckles to protect against this new brightness as a protective adaptation. Because they can't just continue having zero melanin then go out in the sun like it's nothing, they would fry. I absolutely do not think this has anything to do with any kind of African dna. Ostrich birds have very long muscular legs, I guess humans must have mixed with ostriches thousands of years ago because look you can clearly see these long muscular legs are somewhat similar to our own long legs.

I can't read that old article because I don't have a yahoo account and I'm not going to make one. But I assume Pythia meant it more like a "this is an interesting thought, what do you think about it?" Kind of discussion, instead of a "this is absolute fact you have to memorize" Kind of thing. And either way, she still could have been wrong. With all possible respect, everyone is wrong some times and Pythia has been wrong before too about some things. If you hear something, you still have to think about it and decide if it's really true, doesn't matter who it's coming from. Just because Pythia may have possibly said that one of the palest whitest populations in existence is secretly full of african dna doesn't make it true. Sounds just like that Ancient Black Swedes movie they just made.

Valontuoja has also shared a link with that sermon in a page, in another thread here posted months ago:

https://whitedeathofislam.deathofcommunism.com/on-race/

You can read the original sermon in that link and see the tone in which Pythia said it. Not just that, but other messages from the original thread, with significant pieces of information, are also added in that page.

Yes, even the HPs can be wrong at something every now and then. But I'm still inclined to believe Pythia's statement on that. As puzzling as it may sound at first, it makes sense to me. I think each one of the three main races in their purest original forms have their own standard traits, and I don't see why there should be any variation to this.
I believe, however, in individual variations, such as one person being born with a small nose, and another person of the same race being born with a slightly larger nose. Or in that context, one blonde person being born with slightly lighter or slightly darker hair than another. But I'm not inclined to believe in the existence of one entire race of blondes and another separate entire race of "redheads" at the same time, not in a "natural" way, I mean.

Except that...now that I write this and think about it, if this individual with a darker shade of blonde reproduces and their offspring takes after that darker shade, and then somehow these individuals go seclude themselves in a different territory where they will no longer reproduce with the other "standard shade" blondes, it's possible that all the future offsprings in that region will be born with that darker blonde shade.
However, if that were the case, this would still mean that these individuals came from blondes, and are essentially a "breed" of blondes; their hair being a blonde shade. And that still wouldn't explain the freckles, which takes me to comment on the idea of convergent evolution in my next paragraph here.

I don't know how much I'm inclined to believe in the whole theory of evolution. I think perhaps divergent evolution is possible in very small, subtle ways; like the possibility I illustrated in my previous paragraph. I also believe in individual mutation affected by the environment, such as body hair growing thicker when we're in cold climates or when we're in winter. But I don't believe in the whole idea of evolution pushed in schools which suggests that the environment has caused major changes in the traits of an entire species in millions of years, which to me is the same lie that the yehuborim use to claim that we're all the same and we all came from a common primate, along with other animals, and that the different races (I'm talking about the 3 main ones, not the small phenotypes) only exist due to this kind of "evolution" in milions of years. (Not that I'm saying that this is what you're suggesting here in any way). Additionally, I don't see how freckles possibly caused by exposure to the sun could have been passed down to an entire lineage of other individuals.

And on humans having mixed with ostriches thousands of years ago...well, you know yehuborim are capable of everything xD
(That's just to lighten up the whole tone bit)