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[Soldier Of Light]

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[Ol argedco luciftias]

You are entirely confused and ignorant. Killing an animal as a "sacrifice" is one of the absolute worst crimes that you could possibly do, and you would be absolutely hated by the Gods for doing such an evil and disgusting thing. The Gods also do not want you to throw away good things in your life like relationships with family members or anything like that. Stop thinking about things that are done by the subhuman reptilian jews and muslims as if these crimes are valid or accepted.

The only "sacrifice" is your time and your effort as you do the work to build a better life for yourself. Will you put in the work? Will you try? Will you spend time consistently working for your growth and advancement? Will you work to learn and grow and improve? Or will you just sit there doing nothing and expect it to be handed to you? The people who work to grow, improve, and build better lives for themselves are the people who are blessed, as the Gods can help amplify the effects of their efforts.

 

[Henu the Great]

You can and should raise your own energy to achieve whatever magickal or other goals you might have. There are ample instructions on ToZ websites.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

It did exist that when an animal would be hunted or slaughtered in an absolutely necessary way for food to eat, people would often make a prayer to the Gods. But the prayer was not to drain from the soul of the animal to get something given from the gods to the people. It was exactly the opposite. The prayer was to thank the animal, and to bless and empower the soul of this animal to reincarnate safely and healthy in its next life. The people gave their own energies in a group ritual to bless and empower the animal, and requested from the Gods to help protect and heal the animal.

This is entirely and exactly the opposite of the subhuman animal jew and muslim who try to drain and erase the animal's soul, have the animal's soul completely erased and extinct, and try to use this energy for some other purpose. This thing is one of the highest level spiritual crimes and is absolutely detested and hated by the Gods, and by anybody with any level of a functional soul and morals. It is only the subhuman jew, the subhuman muslim, and the subhuman grey aliens that they follow who would want a crime like this.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

It did exist that when an animal would be hunted or slaughtered in an absolutely necessary way for food to eat, people would often make a prayer to the Gods. But the prayer was not to drain from the soul of the animal to get something given from the gods to the people. It was exactly the opposite. The prayer was to thank the animal, and to bless and empower the soul of this animal to reincarnate safely and healthy in its next life. The people gave their own energies in a group ritual to bless and empower the animal, and requested from the Gods to help protect and heal the animal.

This is entirely and exactly the opposite of the subhuman animal jew and muslim who try to drain and erase the animal's soul, have the animal's soul completely erased and extinct, and try to use this energy for some other purpose. This thing is one of the highest level spiritual crimes and is absolutely detested and hated by the Gods, and by anybody with any level of a functional soul and morals. It is only the subhuman jew, the subhuman muslim, and the subhuman grey aliens that they follow who would want a crime like this.

But then why would Emperor Julian stress the importance of constant sacrifice (and he did mean animal sacrifice) to the Gods and even said this was something Roman Paganism had in common with the jewish practice of constantly sacrificing animals?

Why does Emperor Julian praise Yahweh?

In his polemic against xians, Emperor Julian praises Yahweh and the jews. Why would he do this? “And yet, I call the gods to witness, I am one of those who avoid keeping their festivals with the Jews; but nevertheless I revere always the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; who being themselves...

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I also sourced the polemic where he talked about the importance of animal sacrifices and actually criticised the xians for not sacrificing animals and praised the jews for doing so.

"But why do you not sacrifice, since you have invented your new kind of sacrifice and do not need Jerusalem at all? And yet it was superfluous to ask you this question, since I said the same thing at the beginning, when I wished to show that the Jews agree with the Gentiles, except that they believe in only one God. That is indeed peculiar to them and strange to us; since all the rest we have in a manner in common with them----temples, sanctuaries, altars, purifications, and certain precepts. For as to these we differ from one another either not at all or in trivial matters."

Julian the Apostate, Against the Gallileans: remains of the 3 books, excerpted from Cyril of Alexandria, Contra Julianum (1923) pp.319-433

From "Against the Galileans" which was used by Zevist Personalities as a source for Emperor Julian's life:


"In Against the Galileans, Julian argued that Christianity was a novel superstition that had deviated from both Greek and Jewish traditions, offering nothing truly virtuous or wise that wasn’t already found in older religions. For example, he accuses them of adopting the Jewish idea of the one exclusive YHVH (which he calls “atheism”) along with what he saw as a contemptible, anti-social way of life drawn from the worst of Greek cynic ideals – resulting in a “sordid and slovenly” lifestyle. Julian also attacks the idea of YHVH as being relevant only to Jews and as a racial God of theirs.

In Julian’s eyes, Christians had cherry-picked elements from Judaism and Hellenism "“but have not accepted a single admirable or important doctrine”" from either, instead combining the worst of both worlds. This was an allusion to what is obvious to us: nothing Christians do ultimately benefits them whatsoever. They worship death and a system foreign to their racial soul."

Julian

HPHC also confirmed that the ancient Pagans did do animal sacrifice, but higher cultures such as the Hellenstic culture did so with great care and respect for the animal, especially if it was a cow, sheep, or goat. Chickens and other lower animals were also sacrificed but with less care given as they were lower order animals:

https://satanslibrary.org/English/HP_Hooded_Cobra/Blood_Sacrifices_Explained_Our_Gods_and_Their_Gods_Updated_-_High_Priest_Hooded_Cobra_666.pdf

To say animal sacrifices are abominations to the Gods is simply not accurate.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

But then why would Emperor Julian stress the importance of constant sacrifice (and he did mean animal sacrifice) to the Gods and even said this was something Roman Paganism had in common with the jewish practice of constantly sacrificing animals?

Why does Emperor Julian praise Yahweh?

In his polemic against xians, Emperor Julian praises Yahweh and the jews. Why would he do this? “And yet, I call the gods to witness, I am one of those who avoid keeping their festivals with the Jews; but nevertheless I revere always the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; who being themselves...

ancient-forums.com

I also sourced the polemic where he talked about the importance of animal sacrifices and actually criticised the xians for not sacrificing animals and praised the jews for doing so.

"But why do you not sacrifice, since you have invented your new kind of sacrifice and do not need Jerusalem at all? And yet it was superfluous to ask you this question, since I said the same thing at the beginning, when I wished to show that the Jews agree with the Gentiles, except that they believe in only one God. That is indeed peculiar to them and strange to us; since all the rest we have in a manner in common with them----temples, sanctuaries, altars, purifications, and certain precepts. For as to these we differ from one another either not at all or in trivial matters."

Julian the Apostate, Against the Gallileans: remains of the 3 books, excerpted from Cyril of Alexandria, Contra Julianum (1923) pp.319-433

From "Against the Galileans" which was used by Zevist Personalities as a source for Emperor Julian's life:


"In Against the Galileans, Julian argued that Christianity was a novel superstition that had deviated from both Greek and Jewish traditions, offering nothing truly virtuous or wise that wasn’t already found in older religions. For example, he accuses them of adopting the Jewish idea of the one exclusive YHVH (which he calls “atheism”) along with what he saw as a contemptible, anti-social way of life drawn from the worst of Greek cynic ideals – resulting in a “sordid and slovenly” lifestyle. Julian also attacks the idea of YHVH as being relevant only to Jews and as a racial God of theirs.

In Julian’s eyes, Christians had cherry-picked elements from Judaism and Hellenism "“but have not accepted a single admirable or important doctrine”" from either, instead combining the worst of both worlds. This was an allusion to what is obvious to us: nothing Christians do ultimately benefits them whatsoever. They worship death and a system foreign to their racial soul."

Julian

HPHC also confirmed that the ancient Pagans did do animal sacrifice, but higher cultures such as the Hellenstic culture did so with great care and respect for the animal, especially if it was a cow, sheep, or goat. Chickens and other lower animals were also sacrificed but with less care given as they were lower order animals:

https://satanslibrary.org/English/HP_Hooded_Cobra/Blood_Sacrifices_Explained_Our_Gods_and_Their_Gods_Updated_-_High_Priest_Hooded_Cobra_666.pdf

To say animal sacrifices are abominations to the Gods is simply not accurate.

It is not my purpose to defend all of the alleged statements of every person who ever lived in all of history. Just as it is not my purpose to defend the statements or opinions of all 8 billion people who are living today. I do not know anything about that Julian character, but just from the few quotes that you share, this looks obviously like a jewish agent or some other low quality degenerate. Has he spent his life defending, promoting, and working for jews? That is what it looks like in these quotes. There were many Roman leaders who sold out their own people to instead kiss jewish ass, help the jews, work with them, or at the least not see them for the threat and danger that they are. This is why Rome is gone now. And the same weakness and failures of countries' leaders cucking to jews continues through all of modern history to continue today in most countries. I will not support Julian working with jews and promoting jewish blood sacrifice (if he even did, if those are real quotes and not altered later by jews rewriting history), just as I will not support Churchill working for jews and promoting jewish blood sacrifice by sacrificing the lives of millions of innocent people. It is not valid to say that something is not a crime just because there is one person from some time in history who possibly did the same crime. You can find any example of any subhuman and alien crimes against humanity being done by some purely evil subhuman humanoid right now today, being done by muslims or cartels or any of these evil groups.


I would suggest you to read that same article from High Priest Hooded Cobra. That is where I learned from for part of what I wrote. You seem to have not read the 2nd half of that article which talks about what was done by treating the animals in the highest level of care and love. Only harvesting the animal as absolutely necessary for food, and feeling very guilty about it. And doing large group rituals specifically to give all of their own energies as a gift to the animal and as a magical working to bless and strengthen the soul of the animal, while requesting help from the Gods to ensure that the animal's soul is safe, healthy, strong, and will easily reincarnate again. The animal was only taken for food because it is absolutely necessary and people can not survive on a vegan diet. So absolutely everything possible was done to bless and empower and help this animal's soul afterward, thank the animal, and ensure that the animal is reincarnated again to live a happy and healthy life again in the near future. High Priest Hooded Cobra said the same thing that I said, except he said it in much greater detail and information and he is the one I learned it from.


This is not a sacrifice, and by definition it is exactly the opposite of a blood sacrifice. It is 180 degrees opposite as far away as you can get. As what the jewish/muslim/aztec reptilian alien concept of the blood sacrifice is the idea of killing an animal or a person, and having their entire soul, life force, and existence be entirely drained, erased, and consumed by the reptilian alien species that the jews and aztecs followed. It is about absolute spiritual erasure and extinction so that nothing is remaining of the animal or person's soul. There is no existence remaining, and nothing left to reincarnate ever again. At least that is what they are trying to do.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

if he even did, if those are real quotes and not altered later by jews rewriting history

I do wonder how much of the "Against the Galileans" work is autentically from Emperor Julian.

However, Emperor Julian did ascend to the higher dimensions, he was not a jewish agent, otherwise TOZ wouldn't have a Personalities page about him. He seemed to have been playing the jews and christians against each other. Why he tried to rebuild their temple though is something I don't quite understand. Interestingly Nature itself interfered to stop the jewish temple from being rebuilt through fires and earthquakes. Pehaps Julian knew the attempt will fail?

The Pagan and jewish forms of sacrifice are absolutely different, which is why I also don't get Julian's claim that the ritualisitc differences between Pagan and jewish rites were not that important.

 

[WoadWarrior]

Greetings to all brothers! I have already performed invocation rituals and understand the usefulness of offering sexual/vital energy for the purposes of the Gods. Human sacrifices have always been frowned upon by the Gods, and we know this. And what about animal sacrifice, whose meat will later be consumed? I have a relatively serious problem to try to solve and I thought about opening a formal invocation ritual, and since blood, due to the vital energy it carries, amplifies the effects of the magical work, I would like to know if I would offend a demon if I offered a cattle head at slaughter and used its blood in the ritual, or if I would end up attracting parasitic reptiles that delight in these practices. If it is well conducted, can it be done? Or in serious cases is only symbolic sacrifice valid? (giving up relationships, points of view, something like that) I thank from the bottom of my heart all who answer, and please do not be offended if this is unlikely. I'm on the verge of despair, but I'm asking so as not to do something that might anger or offend the Gods.

As others here have said, the Gods and ancient peoples never used the energy of the animal during its slaughter, the prayers were done to give thanks to the Gods for the opportunity to eat the animal, it was done to give thanks and honor the animal.

So do the following:
1. Thank the Gods for giving you this animal to eat so that you can sustain your life.
2. Ask them to care for this animals soul so that it experiences no suffering in the afterlife.
3. Take good care of the animal before and during the process and do everything as humanely as you can.

Sacrifice as a modern word does not really denote the ancient idea of sacrifice, sacrifice could be better worded as "offering" in the case of animals it was the worshippers offering thanks and gratitude and as they believed all animals belonged to the Gods they also believed the animal was being returned to the Gods by doing this, hence the animal being "offered" but it was about eating food, not using its energy, that is a vampiric jewish practice and must be avoided, the Gods do not look kindly upon it.

 

[Karnonnos [SG]]

Greetings to all brothers! I have already performed invocation rituals and understand the usefulness of offering sexual/vital energy for the purposes of the Gods. Human sacrifices have always been frowned upon by the Gods, and we know this. And what about animal sacrifice, whose meat will later be consumed? I have a relatively serious problem to try to solve and I thought about opening a formal invocation ritual, and since blood, due to the vital energy it carries, amplifies the effects of the magical work, I would like to know if I would offend a demon if I offered a cattle head at slaughter and used its blood in the ritual, or if I would end up attracting parasitic reptiles that delight in these practices. If it is well conducted, can it be done?

Do not do this, nor invoke anything spiritual with that. This was not the responsibility of an average person, to consecrate meat is a distinct act. We do not feed off of 'blood' or anything of the sort, it is base material.

Whatever food you have, simply bless and cleanse it to be nutritious. You can go to Lord Furfur for help with this.

 

[tyrantmage]

Greetings to all brothers! I have already performed invocation rituals and understand the usefulness of offering sexual/vital energy for the purposes of the Gods. Human sacrifices have always been frowned upon by the Gods, and we know this. And what about animal sacrifice, whose meat will later be consumed? I have a relatively serious problem to try to solve and I thought about opening a formal invocation ritual, and since blood, due to the vital energy it carries, amplifies the effects of the magical work, I would like to know if I would offend a demon if I offered a cattle head at slaughter and used its blood in the ritual, or if I would end up attracting parasitic reptiles that delight in these practices. If it is well conducted, can it be done? Or in serious cases is only symbolic sacrifice valid? (giving up relationships, points of view, something like that) I thank from the bottom of my heart all who answer, and please do not be offended if this is unlikely. I'm on the verge of despair, but I'm asking so as not to do something that might anger or offend the Gods.

Using the Blood of other creatures for your own Gains is highly frowned upon by the gods. Do not do it. It is a common misconceptions by people that pagans did animal sacrifices to our Gods. What they did was dress the cattle in beautiful clothings like flowers and all that and dance around it with music, all those was to make the animal comfortable and then the ancient priest works with a Daimon to help its soul reincarnate. Those rituals was more of an acknowledgement that we need meat to survive but we are not cruel to the animals. During celebrations those rituals was done to ensure that the suffering of the animal is lessened as much as possible. With Regards to doing these types of rituals it is Usually a priest or high priest who conducts said blessings, and reincarnation process, cosplaying as a priest and doing this on your own is a bad Idea. Perhaps in the near future we will have so many clergy that these can be done but for now all our clergy are too busy building up the temple and many heavy duties in the community. Listen to SG Karnonnos and just, do like a purification with your meat for consumption if you really want to do this but its not practical, use the time instead to join our daily group ritual schedule which is a lot more beneficial to all of us.

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

Greetings to all brothers! I have already performed invocation rituals and understand the usefulness of offering sexual/vital energy for the purposes of the Gods. Human sacrifices have always been frowned upon by the Gods, and we know this. And what about animal sacrifice, whose meat will later be consumed? I have a relatively serious problem to try to solve and I thought about opening a formal invocation ritual, and since blood, due to the vital energy it carries, amplifies the effects of the magical work, I would like to know if I would offend a demon if I offered a cattle head at slaughter and used its blood in the ritual, or if I would end up attracting parasitic reptiles that delight in these practices. If it is well conducted, can it be done? Or in serious cases is only symbolic sacrifice valid? (giving up relationships, points of view, something like that) I thank from the bottom of my heart all who answer, and please do not be offended if this is unlikely. I'm on the verge of despair, but I'm asking so as not to do something that might anger or offend the Gods.

blood sacrifice=black magick, animal/life forms abuse of body, soul and more. Parassitic and really low level stuff. Nothing to do with us here.

Killing animals for food and eating is a whole different thing, and its not a problem, we need meat to be healthy and to grow strong.

 

[Supermario70]

And what about animal sacrifice, whose meat will later be consumed? I have a relatively serious problem to try to solve and I thought about opening a formal invocation ritual, and since blood, due to the vital energy it carries, amplifies the effects of the magical work, I would like to know if I would offend a demon if I offered a cattle head at slaughter and used its blood in the ritual, or if I would end up attracting parasitic reptiles that delight in these practices. If it is well conducted, can it be done?

I honestly cannot understand this mentality of "I'm in desperate trouble, so it is okay if I do disgusting and abhorrent things to get what I want, right?" Having a serious problem doesn't give you the permission to do disgusting things, nor does doing disgusting things give you better or faster results. You must have the wrong idea about Zevism/Satanism and subconsciously believe enemy lies.

Using another's being energy can backfire and destroy you. HP Maxine said not even aura cleaning can remove the effects of doing such abhorrent things. The Gods do not demand anything, and certainly not another being's lifeforce or abstaining of pleasurable and good activities. Magick is using your own powers to produce results.

If you want to use blood in magick, use your own, not any other being's. It has your own unique spiritual signature and therefore doesn't backfire.