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Any Tips for quitting Yehubor sticks (cigarettes)

Sundara said:
A fool proof vaping taper down method anyone can use - to where you won’t notice any effects:

It’s weaker than cigarettes but stay away from “nicotine salts” and high mg’s. They can be more addictive and higher strength than cigarettes.

Get a mod with adjustable wattage, start on 6mg 80vg/20pg juice. Max I’d go would be 120 watts. Make sure your coil is the right ohm-age. This is if you’re a full pack a day smoker.

If you’re just 2-3 a day, maybe 5-6 start at 80 or 60 on 6 or 3.

Get a couple of things of 0mg nicotine as well.

Once your light withdrawals are over from the initial switch to vaping, start going down 10 volts each week. Once you hit 20-30 volts cut the nicotine in half with mixing 0 mg. Wait for withdrawals to end, could be 3 days to a week. Cut it in half again. Keep cutting it in half until the amount is negotiable and you’re just placeboed.

That’s if your addiction is really stubborn.
Feel it out, you can quit in as early as a few weeks like this if you’re up for it. Just know yourself. If you’re the kind of person who cant do cold turkey and has a worse relapse from it then I’d do this. If you’re the kind of person who is better at just cutting it off all at once and never thinking of it again, then cold turkey it.

Combine it with working out, supplements for anxiety like magnesium citrate, epsom salt soaks, drink a lot of water, get a lot of sleep. Meditate. Pulsatilla might help. Amino acids. Sex. Stay motivated.

Thanks Sundara I’ve been working almost every day and it’s certainly been helping and I definitely think staying motivated is the best thing because you’ll feel more proud after. I’ve been doing this weird thing; when my parents give me a cig I take it, put it in a old pack and forget about it as a test. I’ve filled an entire pack, so I think it’s safe to say I’ve quit :) won’t let my guard down just yet though
Have a good day sister
 
Sundara said:
ChaosBringer666 said:
Soo I’ve been trying to quit smoking for a bit now nothing really been working. it’s starting to effect my health and I’m going to have to probably spend more time healing myself now, so I’m wondering if anyone has any advice or workings that will help. Since I really don’t want to ask for help from the gods, even though I did a Tarot reading which said I won’t be able to quit without help, but I also know the cards can be very finicky and subject to change, though mine are almost never wrong. I’d really like to be able to this myself instead of constantly asking for help.
Thank you for your time
Ave Zeus!
Hail Astaroth!
Hail Enlil !
Hail Azazel!




A fool proof vaping taper down method anyone can use - to where you won’t notice any effects:

It’s weaker than cigarettes but stay away from “nicotine salts” and high mg’s. They can be more addictive and higher strength than cigarettes.

Get a mod with adjustable wattage, start on 6mg 80vg/20pg juice. Max I’d go would be 120 watts. Make sure your coil is the right ohm-age. This is if you’re a full pack a day smoker.

If you’re just 2-3 a day, maybe 5-6 start at 80 or 60 on 6 or 3.

Get a couple of things of 0mg nicotine as well.

Once your light withdrawals are over from the initial switch to vaping, start going down 10 volts each week. Once you hit 20-30 volts cut the nicotine in half with mixing 0 mg. Wait for withdrawals to end, could be 3 days to a week. Cut it in half again. Keep cutting it in half until the amount is negotiable and you’re just placeboed.

That’s if your addiction is really stubborn.
Feel it out, you can quit in as early as a few weeks like this if you’re up for it. Just know yourself. If you’re the kind of person who cant do cold turkey and has a worse relapse from it then I’d do this. If you’re the kind of person who is better at just cutting it off all at once and never thinking of it again, then cold turkey it.

Combine it with working out, supplements for anxiety like magnesium citrate, epsom salt soaks, drink a lot of water, get a lot of sleep. Meditate. Pulsatilla might help. Amino acids. Sex. Stay motivated.


Good advice Sundara!

Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.

I recently tried vaping 3 mg of nicotine. It really calms me the fuck down.

It releases Dopamine and gives a sense of well being. I'm like wow I haven't got this from cigs in years. But it's way lower dose and the vape doesnt bother my lungs.

You're right about the higher levels. Stay away. The disposables are 50 mg of salt nicotine. You gotta get the mod.
 
ChaosBringer666 said:
Aldrick said:
I quit smoking cold Turkey as a new years resolution 2013.

If I had to do it today, I would vape. Bring the nicotine lower in mg till it was zero.

Yay Aldrick finally talked to me ^w^
that’s good to hear, I’m basically doing the same thing though I dunno if I kinda cheated because my guardian helped me by giving me energy whilst I was affirming, but close enough I guess.

Good too see you acting more chill and at peace lately, I’ve been feeling rather righteous myself. Have a good day


Lol. You can do it! For Deutch land!

Du hast das Metall!!!
 
ChaosBringer666 said:
Sundara said:
A fool proof vaping taper down method anyone can use - to where you won’t notice any effects:

It’s weaker than cigarettes but stay away from “nicotine salts” and high mg’s. They can be more addictive and higher strength than cigarettes.

Get a mod with adjustable wattage, start on 6mg 80vg/20pg juice. Max I’d go would be 120 watts. Make sure your coil is the right ohm-age. This is if you’re a full pack a day smoker.

If you’re just 2-3 a day, maybe 5-6 start at 80 or 60 on 6 or 3.

Get a couple of things of 0mg nicotine as well.

Once your light withdrawals are over from the initial switch to vaping, start going down 10 volts each week. Once you hit 20-30 volts cut the nicotine in half with mixing 0 mg. Wait for withdrawals to end, could be 3 days to a week. Cut it in half again. Keep cutting it in half until the amount is negotiable and you’re just placeboed.

That’s if your addiction is really stubborn.
Feel it out, you can quit in as early as a few weeks like this if you’re up for it. Just know yourself. If you’re the kind of person who cant do cold turkey and has a worse relapse from it then I’d do this. If you’re the kind of person who is better at just cutting it off all at once and never thinking of it again, then cold turkey it.

Combine it with working out, supplements for anxiety like magnesium citrate, epsom salt soaks, drink a lot of water, get a lot of sleep. Meditate. Pulsatilla might help. Amino acids. Sex. Stay motivated.

Thanks Sundara I’ve been working almost every day and it’s certainly been helping and I definitely think staying motivated is the best thing because you’ll feel more proud after. I’ve been doing this weird thing; when my parents give me a cig I take it, put it in a old pack and forget about it as a test. I’ve filled an entire pack, so I think it’s safe to say I’ve quit :) won’t let my guard down just yet though
Have a good day sister



Yeas that fills me with joy, good for you! I didn’t have time to read the other comments, it feels so good to quit bad habits. Cigarettes, relationships, it’s all a celebration!
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.
Taken in small doses, nicotine stimulates the release of dopamine, as well as other neurotransmitters such as serotonin, vasopressin and adrenaline. All this generates a sense of euphoria in the consumer. The lethal dose LD50 is 0.5 - 1 mg/kg for humans and 50 mg/kg for rats. Nicotine is a narcotic substance[10]. Regular nicotine users develop a strong psychic addiction to the substance, similar to the addiction generated by heroin and cocaine, to which is added a more or less strong physical addiction. Withdrawal symptoms include a feeling of emptiness, irritability and sometimes constipation, but can also cause bone pain (back, legs and arms). Their peak is often reached between 48 and 72 hours. It usually takes the body three weeks to fully detoxify from nicotine. Suddenly stopping nicotine intake can lead to withdrawal syndrome: psychologically you feel a sense of emptiness and restlessness, physically the symptoms are milder. In fact, although the amount of nicotine inhaled through tobacco smoke is rather small (most of the substance is destroyed by heat) it is still sufficient to create addiction. The amount actually absorbed by the body also depends on other factors, such as the type of tobacco, the actual inhalation, the presence of a filter. As soon as nicotine enters the bloodstream, it is quickly spread by the blood circulation, through which it reaches the nervous system, given its ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. It reaches the brain, where it acts on the neuro-receptors of acetylcholine. At low concentrations it increases the activity of these receptors. Cotinine is a product of nicotine metabolism that remains in the blood for up to 48 hours, so it can be used as an indicator of individual exposure to smoke. At high concentrations nicotine blocks the nicotine receptors of acetylcholine, causing paralysis of skeletal muscles, including respiratory muscles. This is the reason for its toxicity and its use as an insecticide.
In addition, nicotine, like other agonists, also acts on the nicotinic heteroreceptors found on the pre-synaptic fibres of dopaminergic neurons, with a positive modulation effect, i.e. causing an increase in dopamine release. This generates a sensation of pleasure with a mechanism similar, in some ways, to that triggered by cocaine, and only remotely related to that of heroin. The physical addiction to nicotine is therefore also linked to the biochemical need to maintain high levels of dopamine. In addition, many alkaloids in tobacco are powerful MAO inhibitors: cigarettes would not only stimulate dopaminergic neurons to release dopamine, but would also limit its enzymatic degradation. According to many, this would make nicotine addiction even more difficult to eliminate. In addition to all this, nicotine also has a curious effect on the stomach in synergy with other components of tobacco smoke. A few minutes after taking tobacco smoke there is a 15% increase in the secretion of HCl (hydrochloric acid) by the gastric mucosa, as well as a general increase in gastrointestinal peristalsis. This may be the reason why the desire for cigarettes increases after meals, especially if they are abundant.
Scientific research has shown that nicotine acts on the brain producing a number of effects. In particular, some studies have shown that it is able to activate the mesolimbic pathway, the circuit within the brain that regulates feelings of euphoria. Dopamine is one of the key neurotransmitters actively involved in the brain. Research shows that by increasing dopamine levels in reward circuits in the brain, nicotine acts as a chemical with intense addictive qualities. In many studies it has been shown that it is more addictive than cocaine and heroin.
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.


I said low amounts of nicotine. They sell it in health food stores. It's a nootropics, that boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevents alzheimers.

Research it.
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.
Taken in small doses, nicotine stimulates the release of dopamine, as well as other neurotransmitters such as serotonin, vasopressin and adrenaline. All this generates a sense of euphoria in the consumer. The lethal dose LD50 is 0.5 - 1 mg/kg for humans and 50 mg/kg for rats. Nicotine is a narcotic substance[10]. Regular nicotine users develop a strong psychic addiction to the substance, similar to the addiction generated by heroin and cocaine, to which is added a more or less strong physical addiction. Withdrawal symptoms include a feeling of emptiness, irritability and sometimes constipation, but can also cause bone pain (back, legs and arms). Their peak is often reached between 48 and 72 hours. It usually takes the body three weeks to fully detoxify from nicotine. Suddenly stopping nicotine intake can lead to withdrawal syndrome: psychologically you feel a sense of emptiness and restlessness, physically the symptoms are milder. In fact, although the amount of nicotine inhaled through tobacco smoke is rather small (most of the substance is destroyed by heat) it is still sufficient to create addiction. The amount actually absorbed by the body also depends on other factors, such as the type of tobacco, the actual inhalation, the presence of a filter. As soon as nicotine enters the bloodstream, it is quickly spread by the blood circulation, through which it reaches the nervous system, given its ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. It reaches the brain, where it acts on the neuro-receptors of acetylcholine. At low concentrations it increases the activity of these receptors. Cotinine is a product of nicotine metabolism that remains in the blood for up to 48 hours, so it can be used as an indicator of individual exposure to smoke. At high concentrations nicotine blocks the nicotine receptors of acetylcholine, causing paralysis of skeletal muscles, including respiratory muscles. This is the reason for its toxicity and its use as an insecticide.
In addition, nicotine, like other agonists, also acts on the nicotinic heteroreceptors found on the pre-synaptic fibres of dopaminergic neurons, with a positive modulation effect, i.e. causing an increase in dopamine release. This generates a sensation of pleasure with a mechanism similar, in some ways, to that triggered by cocaine, and only remotely related to that of heroin. The physical addiction to nicotine is therefore also linked to the biochemical need to maintain high levels of dopamine. In addition, many alkaloids in tobacco are powerful MAO inhibitors: cigarettes would not only stimulate dopaminergic neurons to release dopamine, but would also limit its enzymatic degradation. According to many, this would make nicotine addiction even more difficult to eliminate. In addition to all this, nicotine also has a curious effect on the stomach in synergy with other components of tobacco smoke. A few minutes after taking tobacco smoke there is a 15% increase in the secretion of HCl (hydrochloric acid) by the gastric mucosa, as well as a general increase in gastrointestinal peristalsis. This may be the reason why the desire for cigarettes increases after meals, especially if they are abundant.
Scientific research has shown that nicotine acts on the brain producing a number of effects. In particular, some studies have shown that it is able to activate the mesolimbic pathway, the circuit within the brain that regulates feelings of euphoria. Dopamine is one of the key neurotransmitters actively involved in the brain. Research shows that by increasing dopamine levels in reward circuits in the brain, nicotine acts as a chemical with intense addictive qualities. In many studies it has been shown that it is more addictive than cocaine and heroin.
 
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.


I said low amounts of nicotine. They sell it in health food stores. It's a nootropics, that boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevents alzheimers.

Research it.
You know what else boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevent alzheimers? Meditation, yoga, healthy lifestyle ecc.
Research or not I wouldn't take nicotine.
 
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.


I said low amounts of nicotine. They sell it in health food stores. It's a nootropics, that boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevents alzheimers.

Research it.
An Italian study has highlighted the ability of nicotine to expand the working memory, so possible therapeutic applications against neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease are being studied. However, the typical method of intake by burning brings enormous side effects already well known, so alternative methods of intake such as patches and oral intake must be used.



A research project for this purpose has been underway in China since 2012.

Working memory (abbreviated to MDL), as part of cognitive psychology studies on mnestic processes, is a model introduced in 1974 by Alan Baddeley and Graham Hitch to more accurately describe the dynamics of short-term memory (MBT).
 
Master said:
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.
Taken in small doses, nicotine stimulates the release of dopamine, as well as other neurotransmitters such as serotonin, vasopressin and adrenaline. All this generates a sense of euphoria in the consumer. The lethal dose LD50 is 0.5 - 1 mg/kg for humans and 50 mg/kg for rats. Nicotine is a narcotic substance[10]. Regular nicotine users develop a strong psychic addiction to the substance, similar to the addiction generated by heroin and cocaine, to which is added a more or less strong physical addiction. Withdrawal symptoms include a feeling of emptiness, irritability and sometimes constipation, but can also cause bone pain (back, legs and arms). Their peak is often reached between 48 and 72 hours. It usually takes the body three weeks to fully detoxify from nicotine. Suddenly stopping nicotine intake can lead to withdrawal syndrome: psychologically you feel a sense of emptiness and restlessness, physically the symptoms are milder. In fact, although the amount of nicotine inhaled through tobacco smoke is rather small (most of the substance is destroyed by heat) it is still sufficient to create addiction. The amount actually absorbed by the body also depends on other factors, such as the type of tobacco, the actual inhalation, the presence of a filter. As soon as nicotine enters the bloodstream, it is quickly spread by the blood circulation, through which it reaches the nervous system, given its ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. It reaches the brain, where it acts on the neuro-receptors of acetylcholine. At low concentrations it increases the activity of these receptors. Cotinine is a product of nicotine metabolism that remains in the blood for up to 48 hours, so it can be used as an indicator of individual exposure to smoke. At high concentrations nicotine blocks the nicotine receptors of acetylcholine, causing paralysis of skeletal muscles, including respiratory muscles. This is the reason for its toxicity and its use as an insecticide.
In addition, nicotine, like other agonists, also acts on the nicotinic heteroreceptors found on the pre-synaptic fibres of dopaminergic neurons, with a positive modulation effect, i.e. causing an increase in dopamine release. This generates a sensation of pleasure with a mechanism similar, in some ways, to that triggered by cocaine, and only remotely related to that of heroin. The physical addiction to nicotine is therefore also linked to the biochemical need to maintain high levels of dopamine. In addition, many alkaloids in tobacco are powerful MAO inhibitors: cigarettes would not only stimulate dopaminergic neurons to release dopamine, but would also limit its enzymatic degradation. According to many, this would make nicotine addiction even more difficult to eliminate. In addition to all this, nicotine also has a curious effect on the stomach in synergy with other components of tobacco smoke. A few minutes after taking tobacco smoke there is a 15% increase in the secretion of HCl (hydrochloric acid) by the gastric mucosa, as well as a general increase in gastrointestinal peristalsis. This may be the reason why the desire for cigarettes increases after meals, especially if they are abundant.
Scientific research has shown that nicotine acts on the brain producing a number of effects. In particular, some studies have shown that it is able to activate the mesolimbic pathway, the circuit within the brain that regulates feelings of euphoria. Dopamine is one of the key neurotransmitters actively involved in the brain. Research shows that by increasing dopamine levels in reward circuits in the brain, nicotine acts as a chemical with intense addictive qualities. In many studies it has been shown that it is more addictive than cocaine and heroin.


1 mg is lethal? There is 20 mg in a pack of cigs. And yes by low doses I mean like 1 mg a day or less. Which does produce these side effects. I'm well aware of what a regular user would go through.
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.


Also when I Say low dose, it is important that people realize the distinction between what has benefits, and where problems start to begin. 1 mg or less a day is beneficial dose, after this the nicotine does still have benefits, but all of the side effects come with it.

The lowest vape juice is usually 3 mg. Now that is 3 mg per volume. 3 mg per ML in a bottle, bottles come with 60 ML, Some 100 ML, all depends.

And average tank takes 24MM. There are 10MM in a ML. So it's about 2 1/2 ML. So 3 mg times 2 1/2. We come out too 7 1/2 mg of nicotine per tank vaped.

If there are 20 mg in a pack of cigs, that's the equivalent of 7 cigs. People vape and vape and rack this number up, and that's on the lowest dose.

I'm not in anyway defending vaping or smoking. 2-3 hits which would be less than 1 mg, can boost mental concentration and cognition.

Is it worth it to be a regular vaper or smoker? No.

This is a discussion on properties of substances and what they do, nothing to do with emotionalism, argumentative behavior, defending propositions, or insulting.

I can release information on studies I have researched, and if anyone wants to discuss the said information, I am all ears. However, I have no intentions of taking information and attaching it to myself, so I can Argue to defend myself, against others thinking if they are the last one standing with self attached information, they somehow become glorified to themselves.

After a certain point, that becomes very annoyying. If anyone doesnt want to agree with scientists that is their right, and what would be even more insightful to me, would be if someone posting counter studies to the beneficial effects of low doses of nicotine.

I am not the information, I simply report what is there. But always continue in my search.
 
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.


I said low amounts of nicotine. They sell it in health food stores. It's a nootropics, that boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevents alzheimers.

Research it.

Is that not the same effects that yoga and (mantra)meditation do for you in addition to good nutrition and enough sleep?
 
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.


Also when I Say low dose, it is important that people realize the distinction between what has benefits, and where problems start to begin. 1 mg or less a day is beneficial dose, after this the nicotine does still have benefits, but all of the side effects come with it.

The lowest vape juice is usually 3 mg. Now that is 3 mg per volume. 3 mg per ML in a bottle, bottles come with 60 ML, Some 100 ML, all depends.

And average tank takes 24MM. There are 10MM in a ML. So it's about 2 1/2 ML. So 3 mg times 2 1/2. We come out too 7 1/2 mg of nicotine per tank vaped.

If there are 20 mg in a pack of cigs, that's the equivalent of 7 cigs. People vape and vape and rack this number up, and that's on the lowest dose.

I'm not in anyway defending vaping or smoking. 2-3 hits which would be less than 1 mg, can boost mental concentration and cognition.

Is it worth it to be a regular vaper or smoker? No.

This is a discussion on properties of substances and what they do, nothing to do with emotionalism, argumentative behavior, defending propositions, or insulting.

I can release information on studies I have researched, and if anyone wants to discuss the said information, I am all ears. However, I have no intentions of taking information and attaching it to myself, so I can Argue to defend myself, against others thinking if they are the last one standing with self attached information, they somehow become glorified to themselves.

After a certain point, that becomes very annoyying. If anyone doesnt want to agree with scientists that is their right, and what would be even more insightful to me, would be if someone posting counter studies to the beneficial effects of low doses of nicotine.

I am not the information, I simply report what is there. But always continue in my search.
As to vaping I think it's one of the most degenerate things that these years have to offer.
 
Henu the Great said:
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.


I said low amounts of nicotine. They sell it in health food stores. It's a nootropics, that boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevents alzheimers.

Research it.

Is that not the same effects that yoga and (mantra)meditation do for you in addition to good nutrition and enough sleep?

How does that change the fact of what something does? You could say that about any number of things. Dont drink 8 glasses of water a day, we got meditation.

In truth meditation does not sublimate for a healthy diet. Nor does it mean things do not produce certain effects.

Cut out coffee tomorrow,if you're a coffee drinker, just meditate, and see how well that works.

Years ago, people wanted to smoke, and claimed meditation healed the body. So meditation healed the lungs, so it was okay to smoke,just meditate.

That was even thought by some clergy early 2000s.

It's the same sorta thing, just meditate and one does not have to eat or drink, exercise, or anything else. It magically takes care of all your needs.

If one was super advanced with powers beyond, maybe. For most of us, meditation can produce fantastic results, but that doesn't somehow take us out of the natural world and make us super human.

The merkaba isn't going to produce crouching tiger hidden dragon results. Lol.
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.


I said low amounts of nicotine. They sell it in health food stores. It's a nootropics, that boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevents alzheimers.

Research it.
You know what else boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevent alzheimers? Meditation, yoga, healthy lifestyle ecc.
Research or not I wouldn't take nicotine.

Yeah dont blame you. Its sorta my relationship with coffee. Caffiene is another nootropic that has benefits. However it's so annoyying.

I get where I cant wake up. But also non organic coffee is a big problem. I switched too organic mate tea and noticed a big change.

If one doesnt know what they are doing, they can get trapped in addiction and over use of legal drugs. Alchohol is another one. A glass of red wine is very healthy for you, but downing a bottle of vodka is not.
 
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
I said low amounts of nicotine. They sell it in health food stores. It's a nootropics, that boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevents alzheimers.

Research it.
You know what else boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevent alzheimers? Meditation, yoga, healthy lifestyle ecc.
Research or not I wouldn't take nicotine.

Yeah dont blame you. Its sorta my relationship with coffee. Caffiene is another nootropic that has benefits. However it's so annoyying.

I get where I cant wake up. But also non organic coffee is a big problem. I switched too organic mate tea and noticed a big change.

If one doesnt know what they are doing, they can get trapped in addiction and over use of legal drugs. Alchohol is another one. A glass of red wine is very healthy for you, but downing a bottle of vodka is not.
Actually the glass of wine thing has been debunked recently.
 
Aldrick said:
How does that change the fact of what something does? You could say that about any number of things. Dont drink 8 glasses of water a day, we got meditation.

In truth meditation does not sublimate for a healthy diet. Nor does it mean things do not produce certain effects.

Cut out coffee tomorrow,if you're a coffee drinker, just meditate, and see how well that works.

Years ago, people wanted to smoke, and claimed meditation healed the body. So meditation healed the lungs, so it was okay to smoke,just meditate.

That was even thought by some clergy early 2000s.

It's the same sorta thing, just meditate and one does not have to eat or drink, exercise, or anything else. It magically takes care of all your needs.

If one was super advanced with powers beyond, maybe. For most of us, meditation can produce fantastic results, but that doesn't somehow take us out of the natural world and make us super human.

The merkaba isn't going to produce crouching tiger hidden dragon results. Lol.

Water is essential, while caffeine and nicotine are not.

Yes, I could go on living without coffee. Not without water though.
 
Aldrick said:
Master said:
Aquarius said:
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.
Taken in small doses, nicotine stimulates the release of dopamine, as well as other neurotransmitters such as serotonin, vasopressin and adrenaline. All this generates a sense of euphoria in the consumer. The lethal dose LD50 is 0.5 - 1 mg/kg for humans and 50 mg/kg for rats. Nicotine is a narcotic substance[10]. Regular nicotine users develop a strong psychic addiction to the substance, similar to the addiction generated by heroin and cocaine, to which is added a more or less strong physical addiction. Withdrawal symptoms include a feeling of emptiness, irritability and sometimes constipation, but can also cause bone pain (back, legs and arms). Their peak is often reached between 48 and 72 hours. It usually takes the body three weeks to fully detoxify from nicotine. Suddenly stopping nicotine intake can lead to withdrawal syndrome: psychologically you feel a sense of emptiness and restlessness, physically the symptoms are milder. In fact, although the amount of nicotine inhaled through tobacco smoke is rather small (most of the substance is destroyed by heat) it is still sufficient to create addiction. The amount actually absorbed by the body also depends on other factors, such as the type of tobacco, the actual inhalation, the presence of a filter. As soon as nicotine enters the bloodstream, it is quickly spread by the blood circulation, through which it reaches the nervous system, given its ability to cross the blood-brain barrier. It reaches the brain, where it acts on the neuro-receptors of acetylcholine. At low concentrations it increases the activity of these receptors. Cotinine is a product of nicotine metabolism that remains in the blood for up to 48 hours, so it can be used as an indicator of individual exposure to smoke. At high concentrations nicotine blocks the nicotine receptors of acetylcholine, causing paralysis of skeletal muscles, including respiratory muscles. This is the reason for its toxicity and its use as an insecticide.
In addition, nicotine, like other agonists, also acts on the nicotinic heteroreceptors found on the pre-synaptic fibres of dopaminergic neurons, with a positive modulation effect, i.e. causing an increase in dopamine release. This generates a sensation of pleasure with a mechanism similar, in some ways, to that triggered by cocaine, and only remotely related to that of heroin. The physical addiction to nicotine is therefore also linked to the biochemical need to maintain high levels of dopamine. In addition, many alkaloids in tobacco are powerful MAO inhibitors: cigarettes would not only stimulate dopaminergic neurons to release dopamine, but would also limit its enzymatic degradation. According to many, this would make nicotine addiction even more difficult to eliminate. In addition to all this, nicotine also has a curious effect on the stomach in synergy with other components of tobacco smoke. A few minutes after taking tobacco smoke there is a 15% increase in the secretion of HCl (hydrochloric acid) by the gastric mucosa, as well as a general increase in gastrointestinal peristalsis. This may be the reason why the desire for cigarettes increases after meals, especially if they are abundant.
Scientific research has shown that nicotine acts on the brain producing a number of effects. In particular, some studies have shown that it is able to activate the mesolimbic pathway, the circuit within the brain that regulates feelings of euphoria. Dopamine is one of the key neurotransmitters actively involved in the brain. Research shows that by increasing dopamine levels in reward circuits in the brain, nicotine acts as a chemical with intense addictive qualities. In many studies it has been shown that it is more addictive than cocaine and heroin.


1 mg is lethal? There is 20 mg in a pack of cigs. And yes by low doses I mean like 1 mg a day or less. Which does produce these side effects. I'm well aware of what a regular user would go through.
The datum is expressed in mg per kg body weight (mg/kg).

In toxicology, LD50 is the dose capable of killing 50% of the subjects to whom a certain substance is administered (single intake). The figure is expressed in mg per kg body weight (mg/kg). The most common routes of exposure, i.e. those by which a substance may come into contact with it, are the dermal route (application on the skin) and the oral route (ingestion). With the spread of vapour, knowledge about nicotine has also increased and what was taken for granted until a few years ago in the scientific world has been surpassed by new information and confirmation. The most important contribution was made by Professor Bernd Mayer, toxicologist at the University of Graz. Thanks to his in-depth research, the famous data reported in the specialist literature, databases and safety data sheets on the acute human lethal dose of 60 mg or less (30-60 mg) nicotine has been revised. The dose of 60 mg would correspond to an oral LD50 of about 0.8 mg/kg, considerably lower than the values determined for laboratory animals (3.3 mg/kg to over 50 mg/kg). Examining the pre-World War II literature, Mayer finally discovered that the origin of this figure can be attributed to the famous German pharmacologist Rudolf Kobert. This pioneer of toxicology, in a book published in 1906, estimated the lethal dose of nicotine on the basis of experiments performed on themselves by Dworzack and Heinrich and described in the 1856 pharmacology book by the Austrian Carl Damian von Schroff. Based on the data available today in the literature on nicotine ingestions with fatal outcome, Mayer suggests an oral LD50 of 6.5-13 mg/kg, corresponding to 500-1000 mg nicotine. This dose is consistent with acute toxicity in dogs, which have nicotine-like responses to nicotine in humans. In 2015, RIVM, the Dutch National Institute for Public Health and the Environment, submitted a dossier with the proposed harmonised classification and labelling (CLH) of nicotine to the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA). The dossier reiterates that the LD50 of 0.5-1 mg/kg is not reliable. The experts of the ECHA Committee for Risk Assessment (RAC) in the conclusions of their report give the following acute toxicity estimates for the classification of mixtures containing nicotine: - orally 5 mg/kg body weight - per contact 70 mg/kg body weight There is no doubt that nicotine can be lethal. However, the levels mentioned until a few years ago in the literature, and in many cases still given for good, are extremely low and unrealistic. Nicotine solutions should always be handled with care and kept away from children (as is the case with many other household products or medicines), but there is no reason to scare the public too much: in our liquids the nicotine concentration generally ranges from 0.15% to 1.8% (1.5 mg/ml - 18 mg/ml nicotine) and in case of accidental contact, it is sufficient to wash your hands. With the advent of TPD, dilution bases may also contain a maximum of 2% nicotine (20 mg/ml). Skin absorption is slower than expected. For example, in an in vitro experiment with a liquid containing 8 mg/ml nicotine, nicotine permeation through skin cells was detectable two hours after the start of exposure and increased progressively, with an average 24-hour exposure rate of 4.82 (±1.05) µg/cm2/h. In other words, about 0.5 mg per hour for contamination of a skin surface of 100 cm2, roughly corresponding to half the palm of a hand. It is therefore very unlikely that accidental contact with a liquid containing 8 mg/ml nicotine will cause serious intoxication. However, taking into account the lower body weight and the risk of increased sensitivity of children, it is advisable to reiterate the need to keep liquids out of reach.
 
Henu the Great said:
Aldrick said:
How does that change the fact of what something does? You could say that about any number of things. Dont drink 8 glasses of water a day, we got meditation.

In truth meditation does not sublimate for a healthy diet. Nor does it mean things do not produce certain effects.

Cut out coffee tomorrow,if you're a coffee drinker, just meditate, and see how well that works.

Years ago, people wanted to smoke, and claimed meditation healed the body. So meditation healed the lungs, so it was okay to smoke,just meditate.

That was even thought by some clergy early 2000s.

It's the same sorta thing, just meditate and one does not have to eat or drink, exercise, or anything else. It magically takes care of all your needs.

If one was super advanced with powers beyond, maybe. For most of us, meditation can produce fantastic results, but that doesn't somehow take us out of the natural world and make us super human.

The merkaba isn't going to produce crouching tiger hidden dragon results. Lol.

Water is essential, while caffeine and nicotine are not.

Yes, I could go on living without coffee. Not without water though.



Well yes fair point hahahaha
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
You know what else boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevent alzheimers? Meditation, yoga, healthy lifestyle ecc.
Research or not I wouldn't take nicotine.

Yeah dont blame you. Its sorta my relationship with coffee. Caffiene is another nootropic that has benefits. However it's so annoyying.

I get where I cant wake up. But also non organic coffee is a big problem. I switched too organic mate tea and noticed a big change.

If one doesnt know what they are doing, they can get trapped in addiction and over use of legal drugs. Alchohol is another one. A glass of red wine is very healthy for you, but downing a bottle of vodka is not.
Actually the glass of wine thing has been debunked recently.


Really!? That's interesting!

Could you provide links to some studies on that.

The ancients drank wine, Dyonisus is the god of wine. Though they watered it down.
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Actually the glass of wine thing has been debunked recently.


Really!? That's interesting!

Could you provide links to some studies on that.

The ancients drank wine, Dyonisus is the god of wine. Though they watered it down.
Just search it on google, there's ton of articles about it I couldn't even choose what to post.


I will look into this. I'm sceptical, but who knows.
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Boasting about being here for so much time and then you promote nicotine, come on mate.


Also when I Say low dose, it is important that people realize the distinction between what has benefits, and where problems start to begin. 1 mg or less a day is beneficial dose, after this the nicotine does still have benefits, but all of the side effects come with it.

The lowest vape juice is usually 3 mg. Now that is 3 mg per volume. 3 mg per ML in a bottle, bottles come with 60 ML, Some 100 ML, all depends.

And average tank takes 24MM. There are 10MM in a ML. So it's about 2 1/2 ML. So 3 mg times 2 1/2. We come out too 7 1/2 mg of nicotine per tank vaped.

If there are 20 mg in a pack of cigs, that's the equivalent of 7 cigs. People vape and vape and rack this number up, and that's on the lowest dose.

I'm not in anyway defending vaping or smoking. 2-3 hits which would be less than 1 mg, can boost mental concentration and cognition.

Is it worth it to be a regular vaper or smoker? No.

This is a discussion on properties of substances and what they do, nothing to do with emotionalism, argumentative behavior, defending propositions, or insulting.

I can release information on studies I have researched, and if anyone wants to discuss the said information, I am all ears. However, I have no intentions of taking information and attaching it to myself, so I can Argue to defend myself, against others thinking if they are the last one standing with self attached information, they somehow become glorified to themselves.

After a certain point, that becomes very annoyying. If anyone doesnt want to agree with scientists that is their right, and what would be even more insightful to me, would be if someone posting counter studies to the beneficial effects of low doses of nicotine.

I am not the information, I simply report what is there. But always continue in my search.
As to vaping I think it's one of the most degenerate things that these years have to offer.


Stop being a debbie downer old man. Gotta get with the times. (Not the magazine)
 
Aldrick said:
Henu the Great said:
Aldrick said:
I said low amounts of nicotine. They sell it in health food stores. It's a nootropics, that boosts IQ, mental functionality and prevents alzheimers.

Research it.

Is that not the same effects that yoga and (mantra)meditation do for you in addition to good nutrition and enough sleep?

How does that change the fact of what something does? You could say that about any number of things. Dont drink 8 glasses of water a day, we got meditation.

In truth meditation does not sublimate for a healthy diet. Nor does it mean things do not produce certain effects.

Cut out coffee tomorrow,if you're a coffee drinker, just meditate, and see how well that works.

Years ago, people wanted to smoke, and claimed meditation healed the body. So meditation healed the lungs, so it was okay to smoke,just meditate.

That was even thought by some clergy early 2000s.

It's the same sorta thing, just meditate and one does not have to eat or drink, exercise, or anything else. It magically takes care of all your needs.

If one was super advanced with powers beyond, maybe. For most of us, meditation can produce fantastic results, but that doesn't somehow take us out of the natural world and make us super human.

The merkaba isn't going to produce crouching tiger hidden dragon results. Lol.
I really wanted to get the caffeine and alcohol involved. Caffeine and nicotine, as you said, are similar substances. Caffeine and nicotine have the opposite effect to alcohol on the body. In any case, nicotine should not be taken through smoking because it is a highly destructive way. You can create so-called energizing and safe nicotine-based drinks. Of course, this will be decided by the needs and desires of humanity.
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Actually the glass of wine thing has been debunked recently.


Really!? That's interesting!

Could you provide links to some studies on that.

The ancients drank wine, Dyonisus is the god of wine. Though they watered it down.
Just search it on google, there's ton of articles about it I couldn't even choose what to post.


So new development. The last few days, I've been trying to focus on Satans Sigil and talk to him. I couldnt connect with him. I had better luck with Abraxas but it still felt weird.

So Satan reached out and it felt so different, I was like you got to be the enemy.

So Abraxas came and he was talking, I said what the hell is going on? Why can I not feel your energy and it's like your under water? This is not how a Demonic visit feels like.

He was like think back when it first started. Remember how Pythia said Caffiene blocks telepathic and psychic power, to wait a few hours? Well Nicotine does the same thing.

I was like ohhhhhh! That makes so much sense actually. That's why it feels so weird. So yeah, no I'm done.
 
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Also when I Say low dose, it is important that people realize the distinction between what has benefits, and where problems start to begin. 1 mg or less a day is beneficial dose, after this the nicotine does still have benefits, but all of the side effects come with it.

The lowest vape juice is usually 3 mg. Now that is 3 mg per volume. 3 mg per ML in a bottle, bottles come with 60 ML, Some 100 ML, all depends.

And average tank takes 24MM. There are 10MM in a ML. So it's about 2 1/2 ML. So 3 mg times 2 1/2. We come out too 7 1/2 mg of nicotine per tank vaped.

If there are 20 mg in a pack of cigs, that's the equivalent of 7 cigs. People vape and vape and rack this number up, and that's on the lowest dose.

I'm not in anyway defending vaping or smoking. 2-3 hits which would be less than 1 mg, can boost mental concentration and cognition.

Is it worth it to be a regular vaper or smoker? No.

This is a discussion on properties of substances and what they do, nothing to do with emotionalism, argumentative behavior, defending propositions, or insulting.

I can release information on studies I have researched, and if anyone wants to discuss the said information, I am all ears. However, I have no intentions of taking information and attaching it to myself, so I can Argue to defend myself, against others thinking if they are the last one standing with self attached information, they somehow become glorified to themselves.

After a certain point, that becomes very annoyying. If anyone doesnt want to agree with scientists that is their right, and what would be even more insightful to me, would be if someone posting counter studies to the beneficial effects of low doses of nicotine.

I am not the information, I simply report what is there. But always continue in my search.
As to vaping I think it's one of the most degenerate things that these years have to offer.


Stop being a debbie downer old man. Gotta get with the times. (Not the magazine)
That's how I am :p btw I am like a lot younger than you.
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
As to vaping I think it's one of the most degenerate things that these years have to offer.


Stop being a debbie downer old man. Gotta get with the times. (Not the magazine)
That's how I am :p btw I am like a lot younger than you.


Shhhhh shhhhh. It's okay, poor things getting senile.

Yes ofcourse I'm older, sure sure. :p
 
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
As to vaping I think it's one of the most degenerate things that these years have to offer.


Stop being a debbie downer old man. Gotta get with the times. (Not the magazine)
That's how I am :p btw I am like a lot younger than you.


Theres this video by Sadh Guru on chemicals. It seems very insightful to me.

https://youtu.be/RlF-tO2YVPg
 
Aldrick said:
Sundara said:
ChaosBringer666 said:
Soo I’ve been trying to quit smoking for a bit now nothing really been working. it’s starting to effect my health and I’m going to have to probably spend more time healing myself now, so I’m wondering if anyone has any advice or workings that will help. Since I really don’t want to ask for help from the gods, even though I did a Tarot reading which said I won’t be able to quit without help, but I also know the cards can be very finicky and subject to change, though mine are almost never wrong. I’d really like to be able to this myself instead of constantly asking for help.
Thank you for your time
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A fool proof vaping taper down method anyone can use - to where you won’t notice any effects:

It’s weaker than cigarettes but stay away from “nicotine salts” and high mg’s. They can be more addictive and higher strength than cigarettes.

Get a mod with adjustable wattage, start on 6mg 80vg/20pg juice. Max I’d go would be 120 watts. Make sure your coil is the right ohm-age. This is if you’re a full pack a day smoker.

If you’re just 2-3 a day, maybe 5-6 start at 80 or 60 on 6 or 3.

Get a couple of things of 0mg nicotine as well.

Once your light withdrawals are over from the initial switch to vaping, start going down 10 volts each week. Once you hit 20-30 volts cut the nicotine in half with mixing 0 mg. Wait for withdrawals to end, could be 3 days to a week. Cut it in half again. Keep cutting it in half until the amount is negotiable and you’re just placeboed.

That’s if your addiction is really stubborn.
Feel it out, you can quit in as early as a few weeks like this if you’re up for it. Just know yourself. If you’re the kind of person who cant do cold turkey and has a worse relapse from it then I’d do this. If you’re the kind of person who is better at just cutting it off all at once and never thinking of it again, then cold turkey it.

Combine it with working out, supplements for anxiety like magnesium citrate, epsom salt soaks, drink a lot of water, get a lot of sleep. Meditate. Pulsatilla might help. Amino acids. Sex. Stay motivated.


Good advice Sundara!

Low amounts of nicotine are actually very healthy for the brain.

I recently tried vaping 3 mg of nicotine. It really calms me the fuck down.

It releases Dopamine and gives a sense of well being. I'm like wow I haven't got this from cigs in years. But it's way lower dose and the vape doesnt bother my lungs.

You're right about the higher levels. Stay away. The disposables are 50 mg of salt nicotine. You gotta get the mod.




Hey yeah definitely, don’t know about healthy though. Even when I was on 1 mg the withdrawals were really shitty, and the dependency to anything really blows. The availability of the vapes is also awful, since it’s done inside too. It’s better than cigarettes but it still does restrict oxygen and harm the lungs. The metals and plastics in the coils are probably the worst. I had some weird health issue at one point, and when I was vaping it was noticeably making it worse. Nicotine just sucks. I drink coffee and take ashwagandha and magnesium now, which helps with anxiety in a healthy way without any altering effects. The calm brand of magnesium is friggn amazing for detoxing and insomnia. Works better than melatonin imo.
 
Aldrick said:
Aquarius said:
Aldrick said:
Stop being a debbie downer old man. Gotta get with the times. (Not the magazine)
That's how I am :p btw I am like a lot younger than you.


Theres this video by Sadh Guru on chemicals. It seems very insightful to me.

https://youtu.be/RlF-tO2YVPg

I have seen almost all his videos.
Basically he and one another Indian "guru" asks us to do the alternate nose breathing to balance the soul and know for a fact that "smoking is stupid". As for discussions about coffee and cigs . I have noticed like excessive scalp sensitivity after having a cup of coffee. And smoking just makes me see all black. I dont know how to explain this to you.

As for alcohol and other things I have quit them for my succubus and never plan on going back.
My succubus has saved me from almost dying one time by informing my GD and thus alcohol etc just goes out of the scene here for the rest of my life.
Smoking and coffee though still causes me problems.

Vaping aldrick is not good. Any smoke is not good according to me . Sorry not as advanced as you are but causing holes in my aura at this point of time ( war) is just stupid. Be if by smoking anything.

I have seriously cut back smoking though.

I recently had a back injury where I couldnt move at all from my bed neither do yoga or breathing exercises. But the Rituals remained constant.


GiTM mentioned about how to use blue daemonic energy after Rituals so if you feel like smoking just take this in.
 
Question, I know we're all individuals here, but I drink cold brew before a workout and only one cup at that. I never drink more than one cup daily as it effects communications.

I love the bitter, earthy taste it provides. However I am split. It dehydrates me faster, I am sure. There are agents inside coffee the body does not like and tries to flush it out. I think every 3-7 days should be a good reward for coffee. I am not trying to lose my hair or duck with my adrenal glands.

Just wanted some input, blitzkrieg may know if it affects the king and I love my kidneys, so if I need to give up coffee, that's all I need to know. I will use it as a treat, more than a necessity. This post clears my mind
 

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