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Ancient Greek Learning Group

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Greetings everyone, this is an invitations for all of you who are interested in learning the ancient Greek language, and to those who already know it to some level.
I will make a group conversation on the forums and invite people who are interested, if we reach a limit we will see what we can do.

About the language in short, this is a language in history of high importance, both because of it's spiritual properties and overall the divinity of the language, and because of the literature that this language has. There are countless philosophers, mathematicians, poets, and so on who were spiritually advanced, very advanced, and used this language to share their ideas, knowledge and so on. Knowing this language to an extent to understand these texts, written by people such as Aristotle, Pythagoras, Plato, Homer, just to name the famous ones, will give you a more in depth sight of our path, about the Gods and our lives.
Ancient Greek is not much behind Sanskrit in terms of spiritual power or it's not behind it at all, (but obviously HPZM is needed to be ask for more accurate answer regarding this).

As learning a second or third or as many language you want, this will greatly enhance many of your intellectual abilities, and this is more pronounced with such a divine language. This is a great hobby to have.
If anyone on the planet are suited to speak this language than it's us, Satanists.

The resources we'll use are based on the "natural method", the "extensive reading method", the "comprehensible input method". Mainly.
This is mostly about learning the target language in the target language, to not translate sentences, but to comprehend sentences in the target language, while new words are presented with drawings, pictographs, or they are simply comprehensible by the context. You will obviously not learn the whole language like this, and an extremely perfect resource would be needed for this otherwise. You will obviously need to look up dictionaries, and not all the books in our resources will be based on this method.

When it comes to resources to learn ancient Greek, most assumes you know Latin, and most are not good. Still we will use 12 books that are great in their own thing, and when combined, they give you a pretty good autodidact experience. 12 books to be exact, this is why it's an extensive reading method.

Below you see the spreadsheet where these books are beautifully organized, where each column is a new grammatical concept. So going column by column, you will read different books introducing you to the same grammatical concepts. So here is the spreadsheet(made by Luke Ranieri, polymathy on youtube):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16s3pOejAXaUvQ-WCYmFrXo2cnKsl2j0efCrothCp3Y4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

You can download the books very legally from here:
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/ancient-greek-a-language-of-the-gods.96392/#post-506683
(you can also watch the videos mentioned here and memorize the alphabet.)
Or you can buy them on amazon. Or at least some of them.

So, the aim of this learning group of ours, is to finish one column per week. The first 3 columns are to be read in the first week, AKA. the first 3 chapter of the Logos book, than it's just one column per week. This will be very easy in the beginning, but the language gets harder and too much new vocabulary will be presented. This is not an easy challenge but that's why I'm making this group, to help and encourage each-other.
10-20 minutes a day should be enough to complete this challenge, but it depends on you how much time you put into this. I haven't checked how much page there is to be read in later chapters but I imagine you would not need to spend much more than 20 minutes per day to read them in one week.

Furthermore, flashcards, or similar ways of acquiring vocabulary is good. Such can be practiced outside of these resources which is the baseline.

In our group we will discuss what we learnt, what we know, what we didn't understood and what we don't know. Even in ancient Greek if we can. Although using the language is not the biggest importance in acquiring it, especially as a beginner. However this can crystallize our knowledge and using it in groups, we can correct each other which will be much better than talking to yourself and making grammatical errors that you'll never know you made. These errors can than grow in you and in best case scenario, you will only realize this later. But not with our group.

I sincerely ask everyone to ask everything you don't understand, as this is why this group is.

So this is than why I ask people who already know some level of ancient Greek to join us, and act as a teacher here while you can also further you level of competence.

Before you start to read, there is a basic knowledge you have to have about ancient Greek.
The below resources beautifully sums this up, please read / watch them if you consider joining.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_grammar - This is to briefly know what grammatical concepts are there in ancient Greek. To know what you'll learn about.

- this is the pronunciation (you can just watch the attic part.)
http://atticgreek.org/pronunc/alphaU.html -This is also pronunciation. But this also shows the attic ancient Greek letters on the right (or below) in small, those are the letters that were used before 400bc. click on those letters for the attic pronunciation.

For more, you can check this channels out:

There is not much people who uploads videos on ancient Greek. He also has a "ancient Greek in action" course, that you can follow (it's goodly aligned with the logos book). Just be aware that he doesn't use the attic pronunciation, but a later one.

There are some interesting and good videos on ancient Greek from others too:

You study about the language in general until we start.
If you are interested, comment here or mail me on the forums or whatever. We will start on Sunday October 13, 2024, this is optimally when you should start reading the books, and I'll make the group on this day (beware of the VoC).

#20

Hello, I only know of one single book that was made for university studends, and it's available for free, it's basically the first search result if you search it up. Other than that, maybe you'll find online dictionaries but that's all there is to it.

There are much less resource for learning ancient Greek than Latin, and when it comes to Hungarian resources, we don't even have proper Latin books. The problem with these books is that they rely on the translation method but this is not a good way to acquire a language.
Moreover, those books were made for the classroom, and not for people who wants to learn the language by themselves (autodidacts).

A lot of books in this spreadsheet rely only on the ancient Greek language, so you don't need to know any other language to comprehend the book and acquire the language. A lot of them, however does use English, but I think you will not have a problem with this, as it starts with very basic vocabulary that you know in English too.

Thank you.
I downloaded it earlier. But I was hoping you knew of a better book.

#21

Thank you.
I downloaded it earlier. But I was hoping you knew of a better book.

It's a good idea to learn the grammatical terms in English and you should be all right. https://www.5percangol.hu/nyelvtan_main/angol-nyelvtani-kifejezesek/

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In theory I will be able to invite the others shortly.

#22

I also want to clearly explain the spreadsheet and what is the objective.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16s3pOejAXaUvQ-WCYmFrXo2cnKsl2j0efCrothCp3Y4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

A column is empty
B column has the books' name. These books can be downloaded from here: https://mega.nz/file/KXpGVKIT#fGXGJKazvLWMb_YDoesBSREAflLXadDcO7Zb4U2kUnI

So now, from the B column, each row corresponds to a book. So column 8 to column 14 corresponds to the ATHENAZE book.

From the B column onwards, each column corresponds to one week of reading.
So what we have in the C column? The first week? The chapter one of the logos book. So this is what you would need to read in the first week.
In column D we have the chapter 2 of the logos book, this is for the second week.

Going further into the 4th week, to the F column, we also need to read the chapter one of ATHENAZE, the Intro lesson of the ancient greek alive book, and the 4th chapter of the logos book.

Now as a convention, but you can overrule this, I said that the first three columns (from C to E), the first three chapters of the logos book is to be read in the first week, as this is not much. But from here, we go one column per week.

So week 1: column C to E (first 3 chapters of the logos book)
Week 2: column F (4th chapter of the logos book, chapter one of the Athenaze (both Ox. V.N.), and Intro lesson of the Ancient Greek alive book)
Week 3: column G (5th chapter of logos and 1st lesson of Ancient Greek Alive)
Week 4: column H (6th chapter of the logos and 2nd lesson of Ancient Greek Alive)
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And so on.
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Bit of a calculation:

This course is around 78 weeks long so it is more than one and a half year, 546 days.

We have about 4320 pages in these books together.
That is 8 pages per day IN AVERAGE. So if you read everything once, there might be days where you need to read 15 pages a day or more.

If one page is 3 minutes to read (this is a hardly studying pace), than you looking at 24 -- 45 minutes a day.

If we read everything twice, that's 16 pages per day in average. So If you read everything twice there might be days when you'll need to read 25 pages a day, or more.

Here, if you read everything twice than 40 -- 90 minutes a day.
Although the first 3 chapters of the logos book which is the goal of the first week, can be read in 40 minutes. So Around 6 minutes a day for a week. This is the goal of the first week. 12 Minutes if you read it twice.

As I said it starts off easy but gets harder.

#23

It's a good idea to learn the grammatical terms in English and you should be all right. https://www.5percangol.hu/nyelvtan_main/angol-nyelvtani-kifejezesek/

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In theory I will be able to invite the others shortly.

Thank you.

I'll look through these. Then I'll figure out how to do it.

#24

Greetings everyone, this is an invitations for all of you who are interested in learning the ancient Greek language, and to those who already know it to some level.
I will make a group conversation on the forums and invite people who are interested, if we reach a limit we will see what we can do.

About the language in short, this is a language in history of high importance, both because of it's spiritual properties and overall the divinity of the language, and because of the literature that this language has. There are countless philosophers, mathematicians, poets, and so on who were spiritually advanced, very advanced, and used this language to share their ideas, knowledge and so on. Knowing this language to an extent to understand these texts, written by people such as Aristotle, Pythagoras, Plato, Homer, just to name the famous ones, will give you a more in depth sight of our path, about the Gods and our lives.
Ancient Greek is not much behind Sanskrit in terms of spiritual power or it's not behind it at all, (but obviously HPZM is needed to be ask for more accurate answer regarding this).

As learning a second or third or as many language you want, this will greatly enhance many of your intellectual abilities, and this is more pronounced with such a divine language. This is a great hobby to have.
If anyone on the planet are suited to speak this language than it's us, Satanists.

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#25

You study about the language in general until we start.
If you are interested, comment here or mail me on the forums or whatever. We will start on Sunday October 13, 2024, this is optimally when you should start reading the books, and I'll make the group on this day (beware of the VoC).

Thank you so much for the resources. I'm far too late for this study group but I'm thankful for the material.

I'm obsessed with learning linguistics and it blows my mind how so many English words come from translations of other words. English (a Germanic language) consists of 60% Latin and 30% Greek with the latter having 20% translated through Latin.

The earliest form of Greek was in the Mycenian Bronze Age around 1500 BCE.

Old Latin (AKA Archaic/Early) was founded in 753 BCE. It borrowed much (perhaps even most) of its words and culture from Greece and its people therein are referred to as the Greco-Roman civilization. The Latin alphabet evolved from the Etruscan Greek alphabet; from the Cumaen Greek alphabet; the Phonecian alphabet and ultimately from Egyptian hieroglyphs.

To think how much change has occurred. I'm truly awestruck by it.

I find it surreal how many words today have lost their true meaning. Person - from Greek prósōpa (face/mask) and Latin (actor's mask, character in a play) later had a change in etiology to mean 'human being.'

People say meaningless things everywhere, like 'I hate you' instead of 'I hate your person - who you are and what you do.'

Even words like 'nobody' have lost all meaning to me. Such a word should indicate an absence of physical existence.

The enemy has done such a number on language and it clearly has brought about a state of mass societal psychosis. All things considered however there are plenty of neologisms, particularly in science, that are useful and beneficial to our world. I suppose we cannot have bad without good and overall I'm confident that such good even today is far greater in proportion to the bad.

Truth will surely always prevail.

#26

Unfortunately it seems, as HP HC pointed out, a lot of "reconstructed pronunciation" is bs and one could learn from standard Greek:
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/zevists-our-new-name-zeus-thunder-power-sat-zev.298695/#post-1127158

(Although a lot of words and grammar have changed, obviously there is plenty more material for input in modern Greek than it does for ancient one)

This guy has a comprehensible guide on how to pronounce Greek:

Just a note that the sigma is more like a retracted S, with the tongue against your palate (like a soft hissing), rather than against your teeth (English S). That's a feature that survived in European Spanish, since Greek was the second Lingua Franca of the Roman Empire.

Trick to differentiate gamma and chi:

*Just to make clear, I'm in no way knowledgeable in Greek language*

#27

i love the idea.
do any of you watch Ammon Hillsman at Lady Babylon on youtube?

#28

Unfortunately it seems, as HP HC pointed out, a lot of "reconstructed pronunciation" is bs and one could learn from standard Greek:
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/zevists-our-new-name-zeus-thunder-power-sat-zev.298695/#post-1127158

(Although a lot of words and grammar have changed, obviously there is plenty more material for input in modern Greek than it does for ancient one)

This guy has a comprehensible guide on how to pronounce Greek:

Yes, thank you for updating.

#29

Greetings everyone, this is an invitations for all of you who are interested in learning the ancient Greek language, and to those who already know it to some level.
I will make a group conversation on the forums and invite people who are interested, if we reach a limit we will see what we can do.

About the language in short, this is a language in history of high importance, both because of it's spiritual properties and overall the divinity of the language, and because of the literature that this language has. There are countless philosophers, mathematicians, poets, and so on who were spiritually advanced, very advanced, and used this language to share their ideas, knowledge and so on. Knowing this language to an extent to understand these texts, written by people such as Aristotle, Pythagoras, Plato, Homer, just to name the famous ones, will give you a more in depth sight of our path, about the Gods and our lives.
Ancient Greek is not much behind Sanskrit in terms of spiritual power or it's not behind it at all, (but obviously HPZM is needed to be ask for more accurate answer regarding this).

As learning a second or third or as many language you want, this will greatly enhance many of your intellectual abilities, and this is more pronounced with such a divine language. This is a great hobby to have.
If anyone on the planet are suited to speak this language than it's us, Satanists.

Wish I could have gotten involved in this as a group for the motivation and coming together, but will have to do this own my own! I suppose the Logos book is first for me 😁

Power without Kindness is cruelty, but Kindness without Power is weakness.

#30

Wish I could have gotten involved in this as a group for the motivation and coming together, but will have to do this own my own! I suppose the Logos book is first for me 😁

Do not even joke! We'll have a public space on the Vultus Templorum shortly for this group! Start now and you'll be able to join shortly!

#31

I am interested, love that idea

#32

Do not even joke! We'll have a public space on the Vultus Templorum shortly for this group! Start now and you'll be able to join shortly!

I love that! Please invite me if possible!

Power without Kindness is cruelty, but Kindness without Power is weakness.

#33
This is the targeted message.

I love that! Please invite me if possible!

Got excited I mean invite me when it's ready. I've gotta start studying it! <3 And putting my mind to it everyday! 🙏

Power without Kindness is cruelty, but Kindness without Power is weakness.