From: strengththroughsatan89 <horrorfan89@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Am I doing the Venus Mantra correctly? (Kabalistic Square question in general)
To:
[email protected]
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 12:05 PM
Ok, to go along with what blackkat has said but more aggressively, everyone needs to stop with this. "Firestarter" I ighly respect your opinion and I know that there are always more than one way to do a working. When I do the working I do vibrate the mantra and not just say it like in a sentence. I can do each part long enough to where I feel the vibration and energy running through me. I also took your advice and tried to try to get a rythm going and since last night was 45 reps it was the perfect time to attempt this. I did feel the eneegy this way as well but I highly prefer doing the entire chant.
For everyone who feels like they need to comment on something to the point where they totally dismis the experiences of others, than my advice to you as "firestarter" has always said to try other ways that dffer from your own before you state your comments. By not trying the way of a nother and only thinking your way works causes you to live as ignorant as those on the RHP.
"LZ" I also wanted to say that "firestarter" has been here far longer than you and you really need to show some respect. She knows what she is talking about and I always take pride in considering and thinking about everything that she says. This goes for anyone who has seniority, respect must be shown.
Everyone needs to move on from this, we all have stated our cases and experiences and that is what these groups are for. Once we answer a post with our numerous experiences it is up to the original poster to do what they feel is right. For something so minimal as to in how many breaths per chant, fighting should never occur. We have more important things to worry about.
Hail Satan
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[email protected], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:
I said it's impossible to vibrate it like "THOTH". That's what vibrating it means, if you simply say the mantra as in normal speech and don't vibrate it for 20-30 seconds or more you aren't really vibrating it. Vibrating it means doing it like the humming breath. If you can do a 30 second exhale kudos to you, but most people don't, that's what I say it's impossible. It's easy to say the entire mantra in a breath, but you aren't really vibrating it if you don't feel the vibrations in the vocal chords. I've explained this many times and I'm really tired of doing that again and again..
"I was actually talking about a few people on here...if you felt singled out, maybe that means something..."
I'm the only one who gave a counteropinion to the mantra vibration in this thread, nobody else did. So it's common sense you would be referring to me.
LOL Funny you continue to speculate. The second half of your post you only mention what you think, not what you experienced, again how is that not speculation?
AGAIN like I said, I'm vibrating one word one breath and doesn't break the contiguity of a mantra at all. Seriously, if you want to speak about that try vibrating it instead of speculating. You only say your opinion, yes, but you state it as if it's gonna cancel my experiences with the mantras or something.
The shorter mantras are for those who don't have enough time to do let's say 50 or even 80 reps of the entire mantra which can last for over 40 mins. HPs Maxine explained that before. It's not for those who can't do the entire mantra in a single breath, nobody even stated not even in the site that you HAVE to do it in a single breath.
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[email protected], "lz241113" <lz241113@ wrote:
I was actually talking about a few people on here...if you felt singled out, maybe that means something...
If this method works for you, that's fine, but you shouldn't tell people it's (pretty much) impossible to vibrate it in one breath (without a short inhale in between, be it less than a second or more). I'm currently quitting smoking tabacco, but was a smoker for 15 years. Obviously my lungs aren't in pristine condition. Still, I can vibrate the whole mantra in one exhale. This IS possible, and telling other people otherwise is what I meant by speculation.Also, in my opinion, the shortened versions of the mantras are there for people like you who have trouble vibrating the full one in one exhale. It's just my opinion, but breaking the rythm by inhaling, even for half a second, reduces the power of the working...again, just my opinion. I'm not trying to start a feud, I just noticed that MANY people on here speak (write) before thinking.
Your Brother in Satan,
LZ.
Hail Father Satan!
Hail all the Powers of Hell!
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[email protected], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
Just to make it clear, one word at a time means I vibrate a word of the mantra, then I take a very short inhale (less than 1 second), thn vibrate another word, a very short inhale again e.t.c. So yeah, I don't really mean a long inhale as I'm vibrating another mantra, of course not. The mantra DOES sound wholesome if you vibrate it this way. Actually this breath rhythm comes automatically when you start vibrating a mantra and only focus on that. As HP Maxine said you should just vibrate the mantra and the breath rhythm comes on its own, without you having to adjust your breath or force it.
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[email protected], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
Huh? If you talking about me, I'm mentioning this from my experiences, as I explained before. I don't speculate, I go simply by what I tried and experienced. If I tried to do the entire mantra, not only no vibration can't be felt but it's much watered down than one word at a time. You said it yourself, you *think* that it's the right way to do it, you haven't tried both. So how do you think I'm just speculating when you're the one making assumptions?
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[email protected], "lz241113" <lz241113@ wrote:
I agree Strenghthroughsatan89, I've been vibrating the whole mantra in one breath (Not impossible). Actually, the energies are INCREDIBLY strong!! You can vibrate it all and feel the vibrations...I'm no expert, but in my opinion this is much more effective than vibrating one word at a time. If the whole mantra is too much for you, use the short versions. Don't just vibrate one word at a time, I don't think this is how it's meant to be used. Some people here seem to just speculate rather than impart real knowledge...you know who you are.
LZ.
Hail Father Satan, and all the Powers of Hell, Forever and Always!
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[email protected], "strengththroughsatan89" <horrorfan89@ wrote:
Not impossible and I do feel much vibration and energy. Even on the first night with doing only four mantras I could feel the vibrations along with lots of heat.
Hail Satan
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[email protected], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
No, it's pretty impossible to do the entire mantra in one exhale. Even if you manage to do it this way, you'll notice that you don't feel any vibration, and too feel the vibration is most important. Yes, you can do it one word an exhale, I do it this way it works, BUT I don't understand how it takes an hour to you. Because when I do 29 reps of a kabalistic square mantra it takes 15 mins or less. I don't vibrate one word for more than 4 seconds.
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[email protected], "Syt R" <jri9vero@ wrote:
U could have used either the long or short versions of the mantra.
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[email protected], "strengththroughsatan89" <horrorfan89@ wrote:
On each exhale the entire chant should be vibrated together. Therefore on that day there should have been 29 exhales/29 full chants.
Hail Satan
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[email protected], "devian40" <alecwebbins@ wrote:
We are supposed to vibrate each and every sanskrit word one at a time until we are out of breath, right?
Yesterday, I did just that 29 times and it took over an hour for me to complete. I just want to make sure this is the proper way to do this before I continue on with higher reps.
