Alcohol Homemade?

[SeerOfSS]

So I been reading some what of what people saying about drinking and such.
Yes understand its ones own choice to do or not.

However I still must ask... What about homemade wine?
Yes, the commerical wines can have and does have a lot of additives and more.
But if you make your own without adding all those extra stuff aside from the sugar and yeast and keep in mind this is quality ingredients.

Along with during the night you have one or 2 glass of wine with your meal.

I do not speak about alcoholism or those with big issues around that...

 

[Eric13]

The real answer on this, is that alcohol is deemed unacceptable as general advice on this forum because in good conscience, how could we promote such use? Knowing the negative effects? However the reality is a little different. If a person drinks a glass of wine with dinner or has a beer after a long day of work or on a hot summers day, what is the problem? There isn’t one. No drunkenness results from it and it’s just a drink at that point. When people get drunk this is whole other issue. Even Mageson said once the reason he doesn’t drink is cause he tells us not to. But acknowledged that in reality he could have a drink from time to time and it wouldn’t be a problem. But in his role as a leader here he must set the example. So he doesn’t drink.

If you wish to make your own wine for private responsible consumption, that’s your choice if you’re an adult. You don’t need to ask us here for permission.

 

[Way_Seeker666]

Ahh... Big disappointment.

I guess this will be another thing I will not see an answer to.

'Yes it's your choice but so is a lot of dumb shit." guess can't be helped, not many can speak without adding attacks to others.

Oh well.. Will wait a little longer then will delete the post.

I did answer you and what I said is the truth. If you take that as an attack you are either ridiculously sensitive or the alcohol has a hold on you and you can't handle being told it's no good.
You can choose to drink, or do drugs, or drive intoxicated, or have unprotected sex, or a thousand other dumb things. The fact that it's your choice doesn't remove the consequences and all I did was point those out.
It seems you were looking for validation instead of reality. That isn't going to happen here.

No you didn't answer my question.
What i seek you cant give me for you don't it.

Also what you said is all common, things I already knew about it for i have read about it before as I stated it.

I guess I should've been more clear on my question, then again I didn't think you would be assuming things. (About me)

Its not about pointing out things. Its about how you word things.
No not saying be careful and no not saying don't do it but like you said there is also consequences.

Oh thank you for telling me how I feel. I didn't know you where me.

Yes your so right I was looking for validation especially here in the group.
(Understand sarcasm, I hope)

Where did I say anything like that?
Did I say anything about I in it? Or you read it and assumed and or put the words in there?

Again you didn't answer my question and what you said is already known. (No I'm not a know at all, that's why I'm asking a question.)

You asked if it's ok, I advised you that alcohol is toxic garbage and you're better off without it. You spazzed out because you didn't get a yes like you wanted, and took offence to my wording. Now you're sapzzing out more in a childish over reaction to having your actions pointed out.
You can drink. You don't need anyone's permission. But if you ask a question it should be because you want the truth, not because you want a specific answer IE validation.

 

[Sunny]

So I been reading some what of what people saying about drinking and such.
Yes understand its ones own choice to do or not.

However I still must ask... What about homemade wine?
Yes, the commerical wines can have and does have a lot of additives and more.
But if you make your own without adding all those extra stuff aside from the sugar and yeast and keep in mind this is quality ingredients.

Along with during the night you have one or 2 glass of wine with your meal.

I do not speak about alcoholism or those with big issues around that...

I will speak to you from personal experience. The same rule applies to every product, higher price = higher quality. If you buy the product from a certified company, the added substances are safe and are used for the preservation of the product. The situation changes for cheap products, they are corrupted in content with a cheap substitute and therefore are of poor quality. If you want to produce it yourself, it will be of high quality but also the price will be high, hard work the land, water, insecticides, time. Find out and see if you can afford it. You can buy land but you can't buy time. If you are employed full time, it will be very difficult but not impossible. All in all, it is cheaper to buy it.

I don't know if it is necessary to consume alcohol but it should not be abused with anything. Sugar is essential for the body, it is the main source of energy for all cells but if it is abused with sugar, it can lead to deadly consequences. But alcohol has no nutritional or useful and necessary role in any way and for anything for the body. Alcohol is only a medium strength sedative drug, not to be underestimated. And it is used for fun and relaxation. Wine and beer also have other properties while spirits such as vodka for example are distilled water and 35-45% alcohol. I don't know what humanity will do with alcohol in the future but cigarettes must be prohibited. Smoking has no beneficial effect on the body, on the contrary it is only harm and destruction. And the harder drugs must of course be prohibited.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I really cant say this is something that was totally prohibited in all ways all the time in the ancient times cause we all know it wasnt.

If it was something new though it totally would not be legal at all and for good reason.

If your going to do it here is some advice. Check your chart if you have anything around 25 degrees of fixed signs avoid this like the plague. Also if you have a genetic tendency towards problems with this avoid it as well.

I do have something important at 25 degrees Aquarius which on the JOS fixed stars and degrees site clearly says is a degree of alchoholism. I also as well have a genetic tendency towards problems with alchohol that I was told many times when I was younger. I should have listened to this I started using this and had many problems with it. I withdrew from it physically at least 5 or 6 times. I could not control how much I drank a lot of the time if I started. I also was way more moody and argumentative when using it. Even a few days after.

So this is just my thoughts on this obviously I am not going to use it again. If you use it anyways and are aware of something like what I said with yourself it's on you your problems dont complain later about it cause you did it to yourself.

Good luck.

 

[SeerOfSS]

I did answer you and what I said is the truth. If you take that as an attack you are either ridiculously sensitive or the alcohol has a hold on you and you can't handle being told it's no good.
You can choose to drink, or do drugs, or drive intoxicated, or have unprotected sex, or a thousand other dumb things. The fact that it's your choice doesn't remove the consequences and all I did was point those out.
It seems you were looking for validation instead of reality. That isn't going to happen here.

No you didn't answer my question.
What i seek you cant give me for you don't it.

Also what you said is all common, things I already knew about it for i have read about it before as I stated it.

I guess I should've been more clear on my question, then again I didn't think you would be assuming things. (About me)

Its not about pointing out things. Its about how you word things.
No not saying be careful and no not saying don't do it but like you said there is also consequences.

Oh thank you for telling me how I feel. I didn't know you where me.

Yes your so right I was looking for validation especially here in the group.
(Understand sarcasm, I hope)

Where did I say anything like that?
Did I say anything about I in it? Or you read it and assumed and or put the words in there?

Again you didn't answer my question and what you said is already known. (No I'm not a know at all, that's why I'm asking a question.)

You asked if it's ok, I advised you that alcohol is toxic garbage and you're better off without it. You spazzed out because you didn't get a yes like you wanted, and took offence to my wording. Now you're sapzzing out more in a childish over reaction to having your actions pointed out.
You can drink. You don't need anyone's permission. But if you ask a question it should be because you want the truth, not because you want a specific answer IE validation.

Please go away, I already made my point you didn't answer what im looking for and you are oblivious to what I was getting at.

 

[SeerOfSS]

The real answer on this, is that alcohol is deemed unacceptable as general advice on this forum because in good conscience, how could we promote such use? Knowing the negative effects? However the reality is a little different. If a person drinks a glass of wine with dinner or has a beer after a long day of work or on a hot summers day, what is the problem? There isn’t one. No drunkenness results from it and it’s just a drink at that point. When people get drunk this is whole other issue. Even Mageson said once the reason he doesn’t drink is cause he tells us not to. But acknowledged that in reality he could have a drink from time to time and it wouldn’t be a problem. But in his role as a leader here he must set the example. So he doesn’t drink.

If you wish to make your own wine for private responsible consumption, that’s your choice if you’re an adult. You don’t need to ask us here for permission.

Thank you for the info, there's a few things there I did not know.
That will help me on some things I'm pondering.

 

[SeerOfSS]

So I been reading some what of what people saying about drinking and such.
Yes understand its ones own choice to do or not.

However I still must ask... What about homemade wine?
Yes, the commerical wines can have and does have a lot of additives and more.
But if you make your own without adding all those extra stuff aside from the sugar and yeast and keep in mind this is quality ingredients.

Along with during the night you have one or 2 glass of wine with your meal.

I do not speak about alcoholism or those with big issues around that...

I will speak to you from personal experience. The same rule applies to every product, higher price = higher quality. If you buy the product from a certified company, the added substances are safe and are used for the preservation of the product. The situation changes for cheap products, they are corrupted in content with a cheap substitute and therefore are of poor quality. If you want to produce it yourself, it will be of high quality but also the price will be high, hard work the land, water, insecticides, time. Find out and see if you can afford it. You can buy land but you can't buy time. If you are employed full time, it will be very difficult but not impossible. All in all, it is cheaper to buy it.

I don't know if it is necessary to consume alcohol but it should not be abused with anything. Sugar is essential for the body, it is the main source of energy for all cells but if it is abused with sugar, it can lead to deadly consequences. But alcohol has no nutritional or useful and necessary role in any way and for anything for the body. Alcohol is only a medium strength sedative drug, not to be underestimated. And it is used for fun and relaxation. Wine and beer also have other properties while spirits such as vodka for example are distilled water and 35-45% alcohol. I don't know what humanity will do with alcohol in the future but cigarettes must be prohibited. Smoking has no beneficial effect on the body, on the contrary it is only harm and destruction. And the harder drugs must of course be prohibited.

 

[SeerOfSS]

So I been reading some what of what people saying about drinking and such.
Yes understand its ones own choice to do or not.

However I still must ask... What about homemade wine?
Yes, the commerical wines can have and does have a lot of additives and more.
But if you make your own without adding all those extra stuff aside from the sugar and yeast and keep in mind this is quality ingredients.

Along with during the night you have one or 2 glass of wine with your meal.

I do not speak about alcoholism or those with big issues around that...

I will speak to you from personal experience. The same rule applies to every product, higher price = higher quality. If you buy the product from a certified company, the added substances are safe and are used for the preservation of the product. The situation changes for cheap products, they are corrupted in content with a cheap substitute and therefore are of poor quality. If you want to produce it yourself, it will be of high quality but also the price will be high, hard work the land, water, insecticides, time. Find out and see if you can afford it. You can buy land but you can't buy time. If you are employed full time, it will be very difficult but not impossible. All in all, it is cheaper to buy it.

I don't know if it is necessary to consume alcohol but it should not be abused with anything. Sugar is essential for the body, it is the main source of energy for all cells but if it is abused with sugar, it can lead to deadly consequences. But alcohol has no nutritional or useful and necessary role in any way and for anything for the body. Alcohol is only a medium strength sedative drug, not to be underestimated. And it is used for fun and relaxation. Wine and beer also have other properties while spirits such as vodka for example are distilled water and 35-45% alcohol. I don't know what humanity will do with alcohol in the future but cigarettes must be prohibited. Smoking has no beneficial effect on the body, on the contrary it is only harm and destruction. And the harder drugs must of course be prohibited.

Mm.. Based on what I know the higher quality is only on the fruit. Other wise everything else is the same. Sulfate added, acid added, and few other things. To control the alcohol level and the yeast along with clearing out the wine and such.

None the least things to think about on what you said.

As for making it, its actually just as easy as making bread. Of course with buying all the stuff.
None the least putting it together is easy, its time that it needs a lot of it.

Mm.. The sedative part makes sense.. Which brings me another question. Based on some info I found. Alcohol was created before christianity.
Though was that only for pharmacy?

I mean now vodka is also or can be at least used as a cleaner on a wound...

The future of it, is something I would like to know...
None the least agree with the ban on many things cigarettes one of them.

Though with a ban... As history has shown it may not work.. Or would it be very different with it...

Anyways thank you, that helps me.

 

[SeerOfSS]

I really cant say this is something that was totally prohibited in all ways all the time in the ancient times cause we all know it wasnt.

If it was something new though it totally would not be legal at all and for good reason.

If your going to do it here is some advice. Check your chart if you have anything around 25 degrees of fixed signs avoid this like the plague. Also if you have a genetic tendency towards problems with this avoid it as well.

I do have something important at 25 degrees Aquarius which on the JOS fixed stars and degrees site clearly says is a degree of alchoholism. I also as well have a genetic tendency towards problems with alchohol that I was told many times when I was younger. I should have listened to this I started using this and had many problems with it. I withdrew from it physically at least 5 or 6 times. I could not control how much I drank a lot of the time if I started. I also was way more moody and argumentative when using it. Even a few days after.

So this is just my thoughts on this obviously I am not going to use it again. If you use it anyways and are aware of something like what I said with yourself it's on you your problems dont complain later about it cause you did it to yourself.

Good luck.

Thanks for the point out, I already had my chart done. So I know the out come of it. None the least if I have a sip its a shot of wine lol.. Once a blue moon or when I'm really stressed.

The alcohol, it made you aggressive from my understand on read your reply.
Witch makes me think, is that do to the past sense its different for everyone.
For me it makes me more tired and wanting to sleep but if I drink a lot (keep in mind that's more before the group and one slip up after the group do to other factors)
It really shakes me up and its a feeling I hate like I have no complete control of my self but never drunk till passed out.

One of my family is an alcohol, friendly guy really is but cant go without drinking and my uncle found him before passed out on his floor.

Anyways that is history that is annoying.

None the least, new things to think about also.
Thanks

 

[Way_Seeker666]

you didn't answer what im looking for

Der der wittle wun, daz OK, hav a dwink to feewl betta. Of coz iz OK to dwink, jus wike yoo wunt.

There's the answer you want. Coddled and validated like a baby.

Don't tell me from behind your haze of denial that I'm oblivious. I answered straight to the core of your question and you got upset because you didn't want the truth you wanted to be told "yes it's ok".

This seeking of validation, and unwillingness to consider personal shortcomings that are pointed out to you is nothing but weakness and will only stand in your way. Get real and grow instead of wasting your time with pointless nonsense. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to get a point across to you, for your own good.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I really cant say this is something that was totally prohibited in all ways all the time in the ancient times cause we all know it wasnt.

If it was something new though it totally would not be legal at all and for good reason.

If your going to do it here is some advice. Check your chart if you have anything around 25 degrees of fixed signs avoid this like the plague. Also if you have a genetic tendency towards problems with this avoid it as well.

I do have something important at 25 degrees Aquarius which on the JOS fixed stars and degrees site clearly says is a degree of alchoholism. I also as well have a genetic tendency towards problems with alchohol that I was told many times when I was younger. I should have listened to this I started using this and had many problems with it. I withdrew from it physically at least 5 or 6 times. I could not control how much I drank a lot of the time if I started. I also was way more moody and argumentative when using it. Even a few days after.

So this is just my thoughts on this obviously I am not going to use it again. If you use it anyways and are aware of something like what I said with yourself it's on you your problems dont complain later about it cause you did it to yourself.

Good luck.

Thanks for the point out, I already had my chart done. So I know the out come of it. None the least if I have a sip its a shot of wine lol.. Once a blue moon or when I'm really stressed.

The alcohol, it made you aggressive from my understand on read your reply.
Witch makes me think, is that do to the past sense its different for everyone.
For me it makes me more tired and wanting to sleep but if I drink a lot (keep in mind that's more before the group and one slip up after the group do to other factors)
It really shakes me up and its a feeling I hate like I have no complete control of my self but never drunk till passed out.

One of my family is an alcohol, friendly guy really is but cant go without drinking and my uncle found him before passed out on his floor.

Anyways that is history that is annoying.

None the least, new things to think about also.
Thanks

I also have reason to suspect this isnt the only lifetime I had problems with it. I will say people probably really are better off without this at all.

It creates a really sad hopeless desperate feeling both in this life and my recent past one withdrawaling from this and having to have it etc. In fact that was such a traumatic thing it was the only strong past life memory I had at all most this life till recently when I meditated. Except this life I didnt really have anyone to talk to during it unlike last one. It was the same kind of feeling this time though.

If you drink to much for a while it really will mess up your mental state to the point you may even have to take something just to get off it or it could be really dangerous. This really is a bad drug not to mention it has a really low vibration.

Why is your history annoying anyways. You probably should remember stuff like this if you dont want to repeat the same mistakes again. The way you are talking about this and not really wanting to give it up is the same kind of thing I was talking about with me and I knew I had a problem until this year actually with it. It kind of was the last thing for me to give up.

Even if you dont drink for awhile and are not physically dependent at the moment you still can have a problem and junkey thinking as they call it.

 

[wildwind]

1 or 2 glasses of wine with dinner is a lot.... at that rate it's not going to be the additives but the amount of alcohol that does you harm
If you want to go for homemade wine, all you have to do is take some homemade fruit juice, throw yeast in, and wait a few months (open it once a day to let all the air from fermentation out in the first few weeks).