A question of conscience concerning black magic looking for educated

[shadowwhispr7]

I'm having a hard time knowing when enough is enough sometimes when it comes to what I do to those who oppose me.For awhile now it's been very easy many times for me to cause moderate to severe emotional and/or physical damage to people in my life who would greatly inconvenience me or wish to bring me harm.I mean some of the stuff I've made happen to people is really dark stuff that most people would think is really screwed up.People have died,fallen really ill,got into car crashes,cheated on their husbands,had miscarriages,lost their homes to "unexplainable" fires,lost their jobs,cut themselves,confessed to murder so they could go to the looney ward for 20years,and tried heroin,because of curses I've put on them in response to whatever they did to infuriate me.Intrestingly I have at least 2 strong Plutonian aspects to my natal chart, my saturn is in scorpio and my pluto is in scorpio and I've been told by several astrologers that my ascendent is scorpio (although some say it was sagittarius while others say that the 2 ascendents were actually switching at the time I was born).so perhaps that could be a psyche reason for why all the death and destuction often seethes through my fingertips if I have reason to summon it.So the important question I have is this:Is it right for me as a Satanist to exercise my "power" like this.I don't know exactly why I'm asking this this is not the kind of question I normally ask but I'm intrested in what others might have to say concerning the matter as balck magic is a concept which has become rather controversial in the modern occult world.Hail Satan.............shadowwhispr

 

[abraxasservitor]

This is my take on it:

If you really think about the modern idea of a conscience, the ideals of 'right and wrong', the root of these ideals are from religions. A majority of laws were adaptations of religious beliefs and morals taught from the bible, etc...

Something that came to mind that I read on the JOS website while I was reading your post was something Maxine said Satan told her regarding spiritual warfare:

"Listen to what I tell you. If I tell you to create -- do it. And do it with perfection and pleasure. And if I tell you to destroy, do it. Do not hesitate. Destroy with all of your might and pleasure; yes, I tell you to delight in what you have destroyed. "

So in all reality, if people are opposing you, if people are detrimental to you, if their intentions are to blot out Satanism, then hey, do what you have to do.

I'm not on the same level, spiritually, as you, but I do what I can; I say take advantage of the powers you've worked for.

-Anto

 

[siguard666]

IS IT RIGHT TO TAKE REVENGE ON YOUR ENEMIES?? OF COURSE IT IS!! IS SPIRITUAL SATANISM NOT A RELIGION OF BALANCE BETWEEN THE LIGHT AND THE DARK? BETWEEN LOVE AND HATRED?

Come on, if they infuriated you or harmed you in any way, it's perfectly ok, they simply deserved it. AND if they were xians - it is double good Ah, yes, I wish I could be as advanced as you - a few people would die a painful death.
Keep practising. If you didn't kill one of your brethren, why should you have any pricks of conscious?

An advice - it is wise not to cast a black spell on sb you love, yet you're having a hard time with him or her, yet if this person is a nuisance - do, as you wouldn't be done by:

MAY FATHER SATAN TAKE CARE OF YOU AND SHOW YOU YOUR TRUE ENEMIES

HAIL SATAN AND ALL THAT IS HIS!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "shadowwhispr7" <shadowwhispr7@... wrote:

I'm having a hard time knowing when enough is enough sometimes when it comes to what I do to those who oppose me.For awhile now it's been very easy many times for me to cause moderate to severe emotional and/or physical damage to people in my life who would greatly inconvenience me or wish to bring me harm.I mean some of the stuff I've made happen to people is really dark stuff that most people would think is really screwed up.People have died,fallen really ill,got into car crashes,cheated on their husbands,had miscarriages,lost their homes to "unexplainable" fires,lost their jobs,cut themselves,confessed to murder so they could go to the looney ward for 20years,and tried heroin,because of curses I've put on them in response to whatever they did to infuriate me.Intrestingly I have at least 2 strong Plutonian aspects to my natal chart, my saturn is in scorpio and my pluto is in scorpio and I've been told by several astrologers that my ascendent is scorpio (although some say it was sagittarius while others say that the 2 ascendents were actually switching at the time I was born).so perhaps that could be a psyche reason for why all the death and destuction often seethes through my fingertips if I have reason to summon it.So the important question I have is this:Is it right for me as a Satanist to exercise my "power" like this.I don't know exactly why I'm asking this this is not the kind of question I normally ask but I'm intrested in what others might have to say concerning the matter as balck magic is a concept which has become rather controversial in the modern occult world.Hail Satan.............shadowwhispr

 

[satanisk_88]

Black/Destruction Magick is our way of justice when other means cannot be taken. We are not wiccans who avoid the subject of Black Magick altogether and we do not love or have mercy for our enemies.

In my opinion you have every right to use your powers as you will but only place severe consequences on those that truly deserve them. For example it is different to Spiritually destroy someone who threatens your life or who has truly been a disease on the Earth like the Jews, but it is a different thing to curse someone who may just be an idiot and looks at you funny. See what I mean? There is no "karma" in the terms of saying you curse someone and you would be cursed in return. That was a xian lie and wiccans take it seriously.

In conclusion, if the person deserves a good cursing them bring the Hammer of Hell down upon them. If the person can be avoid or dealt with by using other means then save your energy and time.

HAIL SATAN!!

High Priest Ian

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "shadowwhispr7" <shadowwhispr7@... wrote:

I'm having a hard time knowing when enough is enough sometimes when it comes to what I do to those who oppose me.For awhile now it's been very easy many times for me to cause moderate to severe emotional and/or physical damage to people in my life who would greatly inconvenience me or wish to bring me harm.I mean some of the stuff I've made happen to people is really dark stuff that most people would think is really screwed up.People have died,fallen really ill,got into car crashes,cheated on their husbands,had miscarriages,lost their homes to "unexplainable" fires,lost their jobs,cut themselves,confessed to murder so they could go to the looney ward for 20years,and tried heroin,because of curses I've put on them in response to whatever they did to infuriate me.Intrestingly I have at least 2 strong Plutonian aspects to my natal chart, my saturn is in scorpio and my pluto is in scorpio and I've been told by several astrologers that my ascendent is scorpio (although some say it was sagittarius while others say that the 2 ascendents were actually switching at the time I was born).so perhaps that could be a psyche reason for why all the death and destuction often seethes through my fingertips if I have reason to summon it.So the important question I have is this:Is it right for me as a Satanist to exercise my "power" like this.I don't know exactly why I'm asking this this is not the kind of question I normally ask but I'm intrested in what others might have to say concerning the matter as balck magic is a concept which has become rather controversial in the modern occult world.Hail Satan.............shadowwhispr

 

[Anonymous]

You need ask yourself one question, how much of the situation I am in is a result of my actions or inactions. There is no justice save that which the Adept takes for him/herself. Rarely do people honestly go out of their way to cause an individual problems unless that said individual crossed their path, people are just to lazy and generaly stupid. The problem with magickal warfare is that it is dueling with hangernades, their will be fallout! In order to produce a viable state for successful attack you must elicite those same destructive patterns within your own psycho-somatic complex and then be able to completely banish/rid your self of their residue. Magickal violence is the last resort and shows that you allowed others to manipulate your behavoir. Personally I have found that personal success and direct non-response to the point of their existance no longer having any meaning to be the 9 out of 10 winner. In the words of Victor Anderson (modern Feri-tradition also LHP), "White magick is pretty poetry, Black magick is anything that actually works!"
Personally before I cast I perform a divination as to whether the result will be worth my time and effort and also what b.s. will it possibly bring into my otherwise happy life. But if you have to curse then do so with the fury of the Fenrir-wolf, the laughter of Loki, the hunger of Nidhoggr or the utter detatchment of my beloved Queen Hel! All Hail the Rokkr!

Da'inn
Rokkrmadhr

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "abraxasservitor" <abraxasservitor@... wrote:

This is my take on it:

If you really think about the modern idea of a conscience, the ideals of 'right and wrong', the root of these ideals are from religions. A majority of laws were adaptations of religious beliefs and morals taught from the bible, etc...

Something that came to mind that I read on the JOS website while I was reading your post was something Maxine said Satan told her regarding spiritual warfare:

"Listen to what I tell you. If I tell you to create -- do it. And do it with perfection and pleasure. And if I tell you to destroy, do it. Do not hesitate. Destroy with all of your might and pleasure; yes, I tell you to delight in what you have destroyed. "

So in all reality, if people are opposing you, if people are detrimental to you, if their intentions are to blot out Satanism, then hey, do what you have to do.

I'm not on the same level, spiritually, as you, but I do what I can; I say take advantage of the powers you've worked for.

-Anto