A Few Questions

I think the answer is in HP Pythia's advanced article on Baal Zebul: The Healing God of Ekron on the old website. She was rather clear about different pockets of people around the globe worshipping the same deity but applying a different filter or representation. Quoting from a recent post (Don't remember who wrote it) a bunch of people with varying opinions and labels calling, but the same guy always answers. That's my opinion on it, and i think whoever wrote that other post was spot on.

She saw what she saw, if you notice she practically never mentioned Beelzebul after freeing the aspects of the Demons from inside the human soul. What she described on those cases were the perceived Persona of each Daemons for humans and not the beings themselves. Also on the parenthood it still makes sense as Artemis and Apollo are the children of Zeus and not someone else's grandchildren. Please refer to the explanations given here as I can only interject this far on these holy matters:
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/q-a-temple-of-zeus-by-hp-hc.298446

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The question here, Of Satan and Baal Zebul is at one level of understanding. There is confusion when we ask the question and give an answer in one direction, when there are two answers, to one question.

If we use a “reading key” without the duality, then "God" there is no Satan is Baal Zebul, there is Zeus(“God”).

In a “reading key,” dual, there is no Zeus(“One God”), but his Duality, Satan and Baal Zebul. Zeus separated into two forms. "Origin" and "Manifestation," "uncreated Universe" and "created Universe."

You have to split the "keys" and understand which way you are reading it, the confusion comes from mixing these two things. When you read that someone is talking about Satan and Baal Zebul you know that they are talking from a dual point of view of "God"(Zeus) separated into two Entities that have their own functions.

When they talk about Zeus as "Pantokrator," "the One who holds the whole universe," they are doing it from a "principle" point of view of "Oneness."

Last night, I spoke with Father Satan about the transformation of JoS into ToZ. I asked Him about the connection to Zeus, and Father Satan immediately confirmed that He is, indeed, Zeus. He was very quick with this and wants us to know. I just wanted to share and confirm this in addition to the others.

1. Why was the experience of High Priestess Pythia with Satan and Baal Zebul different?

I explained that above.

2. Why was the new name chosen as the Temple of Zeus? Why Zeus specifically and not another name of Satan, for example, from the Egyptian pantheon,like Temple of RA? (I have nothing against the new name ToZ)

Refer to this reply: https://ancient-forums.com/threads/temple-of-zeus-is-now-live.298298/page-4#post-1124703

3. Did High Priestess Pythia herself know that Satan is Zeus? If she knew, why wasn’t this stated from the beginning?

He just explained that in the response he gave why he also didn't simply say "hey everyone Satan is Zeus".

So the image of Satan in the Toz website is that Satan or balzevulon

The logos should be “seen/read” on the key of Oneness. It is the purest form, without the duality, it is Zeus. There is no Satan and Baal Zebul, because in this “vision” of Oneness they are the same thing.

This is whole.. "thing" I'm referring to the community mostly the forum/website. Has had been like a home to me, but when I see what's going on in the present (it's not about the change) but just 1-2 individuals on here, it makes me think " Do they truly have communication or even at least the tiniest communication with the Gods?", I'm referring to the individuals, even "High" individuals.

This is whole.. "thing" I'm referring to the community mostly the forum/website. Has had been like a home to me, but when I see what's going on in the present (it's not about the change) but just 1-2 individuals on here, it makes me think " Do they truly have communication or even at least the tiniest communication with the Gods?", I'm referring to the individuals, even "High" individuals.

Some basic research will verify that Satan is Zeus. HPZM has fully earned trust and authority here, show some respect. If you have your doubts, instead of disrespecting clergy, maybe research on how half the Goetic demons are literally Greek/Egyptian Gods, in some cases with the names remaining fully intact (Like Alastor).

Some basic research will verify that Satan is Zeus. HPZM has fully earned trust and authority here, show some respect. If you have your doubts, instead of disrespecting clergy, maybe research on how half the Goetic demons are literally Greek/Egyptian Gods, in some cases with the names remaining fully intact (Like Alastor).

Was I spoken to you and I don't remember or what? How is a question not respectful ? Be careful ,you're a bit behind with the time and you don't truly what has and what's going on.

You've got 7 posts and already thing you know all about the Gods.

Some basic research will verify that Satan is Zeus. HPZM has fully earned trust and authority here, show some respect. If you have your doubts, instead of disrespecting clergy, maybe research on how half the Goetic demons are literally Greek/Egyptian Gods, in some cases with the names remaining fully intact (Like Alastor).

If you have no clue about what I am talking about and try to say I have been or do something bad to HPZM [which I didn't and I don't] , if you keep saying this once more , without any big text and explications , It would not be good.

By 'high' I was not referring to High priests but mostly older member , which is none of your business , joining something that you're not aware and knowing it's like jumping into a fire just to see how hot it is. It's just dumb. Stop with the dumbass , thanks.

If you have no clue about what I am talking about and try to say I have been or do something bad to HPZM [which I didn't and I don't] , if you keep saying this once more , without any big text and explications , It would not be good.

By 'high' I was not referring to High priests but mostly older member , which is none of your business , joining something that you're not aware and knowing it's like jumping into a fire just to see how hot it is. It's just dumb. Stop with the dumbass , thanks.

Based on how you originally wrote your statement, I had also thought the same thing and had typed a larger reply to you. Even if you are not referring to the Clergy, it is best to not undermine trust in others overall, but instead wait for any errors to rectify themselves over time, as well as focus on yourself in the mean time.

Publicly expressing total doubt in the higher-ranking members creates an overall lack of trust in ToZ itself, which then leads to a downturn in the community's well-being for everyone. These matters should be dealt with privately.

Was I spoken to you and I don't remember or what? How is a question not respectful ? Be careful ,you're a bit behind with the time and you don't truly what has and what's going on.

You've got 7 posts and already thing you know all about the Gods.

Says the guy who has even disrespected HPS Lydia. Maybe relax a bit and go over everything that has been shared. All your questions will find answers in this thread alone.

Says the guy who has even disrespected HPS Lydia. Maybe relax a bit and go over everything that has been shared. All your questions will find answers in this thread alone.

Where have I done that?

Why are you provoking ?

Says the guy who has even disrespected HPS Lydia. Maybe relax a bit and go over everything that has been shared. All your questions will find answers in this thread alone.

As I have said ' you're a bit behind with time' both from Zeus perspective about what you think I might now and with this HPS Lydia thing.
Just because you hide behind the Gods don't mean They will tolerate this thing you're doing, whatever you are Mr 7 posts knower-all.

I have HP Zevios Metathronos question ,not you. Mostly the one of why Lady Pythia never mentioned about Satan being Zeus as well, that's all.
If he seems deem for the question to be answered , sure , if not, then it's absolutely not a problem.
But you, by pumping your noose where's none of your business and then saying I disrespect both HP's , a guy who made an account a week ago , what would that mean either then ...

I have better and fare more important things to be done then arguing with a guy which is new to the forum and can't keep his noose in his place.
No more words for you, I'm done talking.

Mostly the one of why Lady Pythia never mentioned about Satan being Zeus as well, that's all.

Confusion about Satan is well known at these levels. The complexity of God does not “allow” people to be understood easily unless they have reached a certain level of advancement.

In 2009 there was confusion about Odin. [...] “Odin is Satan,” no, “Odin is Baal Zebul”[...], confusion everywhere. At the same time, besides discussing Odin, there were already those who said that Zeus was Satan.

Knowledge comes in stages, and when it comes, a “determined” advancement is needed to understand it.

In some Greek schools, the Pythagoreans, Plato, Stoics, “saw” Zeus as “the One Principle,” “the Pantokrator” who later developed, “God.”

Hello everyone.
I admit that all this has destabilized me a bit and I still am. Thinking about it... it's as if the figure of Satan has been enriched in my eyes. As if he were more complete.

All this has made me understand how much complex the Gods are, how much little understanding I have of these extraordinary beings and how much little I know.

However, I am ecstatic about how much interest the Gods have in making themselves known and in always adding another piece to the puzzle of this great life.

I only hope to metabolize this revelation well and serenely.

Hey, everyone! It's been a while since I last posted. Although I haven't been regular in posting at all, I'm always checking the forums and the main website and moving along with our organization.

My inclination towards our new form is positive, and growing at that. And I would like to add to the discussion by sharing something quite interesting further below.

First of all, I wouldn't be honest if I acted like I had gotten on board with the recent changes right from the start. As with many other members, especially if you've been with our organization for around 10 years (I myself have been around since 2013), when I visited the forums one day and saw it suddenly said "Temple of Zeus", my initial reaction was confusion stemming from a combination of mixed feelings and several personal questions. This is mainly because our organization has invested so much effort in blessing the name of Satan for over 20 years, so it did not make sense for me to move in any direction away from venerating Him as Satan. And of course there was also the sudden notion of Satan and Zeus being the same God. I'm still gradually absorbing and getting used to the latter specifically.

I did not exactly feel negative or defensive towards it, though. I had a couple of things to my advantage:

So a few weeks ago, I inquired with my Guardian via tarot about these most crucial points to seek to clear them up. Above all, I wanted to remain in good terms with our organization and with the Gods, so it was important for me to do that before I proceeded with my practices.

While I was at it, one of the questions I asked was whether Satan and Zeus are really the same being.
While I was shuffling, one card slipped off the deck. Unsure of whether that was an early answer or just an accident, I just set it aside face down and proceeded to finish shuffling and drawing another card myself. I turned both of them up at the end.

Both of the cards were positive.
But the second card - the one I drew myself, not the one that had slipped off - caught my attention for a special reason. It was the King of Wands. Now, let me show you what this card looks like in my deck:

A King figure sitting proudly on a throne which seems to be located somewhere high with the sky behind him? Whom does that resemble to you? ;)

I also asked if the Gods approve of these changes and if we can feel safe to adhere to them. That was also positive.

So whether we can trust our new identity as the Temple of Zeus is long beyond the point to me. It is now just a matter of further studies and meditation to fully embrace it at heart and expand my own view of the Gods and my relationship with them.

And that is all. I don't want to pretentiously make myself sound wise, as I was caught as much off-guard as most other members. I just want to leave this right here. If anyone feels reluctant, I recommend you waste no time in addressing this with the Gods however you can. If there's something important we've learned under Pythia, is to develop your relationship with the Gods. So do approach them directly. Use your astral abilities, learn divination, or ask them for a sign. You can appeal to Satan/Zeus, you can appeal to your Guardian, and you can even appeal to Lady Pythia herself. It's just important that we be in good terms with the Gods and with our organization.