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The Gods #80346 If it is impossible to change one's gender, is it possible to be born a woman through divine power?

This question pertains to the Gods
Shall now recount something I rarely, if ever, dare to share.
Many years ago—though I am now only thirty—I was approximately eighteen or nineteen and preparing to enter university. During that period, I began studying Greek, and, quite unexpectedly, I started experiencing vivid mental images involving a serpent and the pineal gland. Almost instinctively, I took up meditation and began practicing cardiovascular exercise daily. At that time, I was still socially perceived as a young man, if you understand my meaning.
It was then that I heard a masculine voice say to me: “Seek knowledge and continue.” Nothing more.
However, after engaging more intensely in these practices, I began to experience episodes that I can only describe as distressing. If memory serves, they occurred around nine o’clock at night. I would awaken in a state of paralysis, enveloped by an intense light. I felt what I interpreted as malevolent presences in my room. On one occasion, I sensed as though two invisible beings attempted to tear me apart; I did not see anyone, yet I felt as if my body were being split in two. The pain was acute, though no visible agent appeared before me. I can only infer that something occurred, though I cannot determine what.
During that same period, I would meditate in various parts of the house, focusing on what is commonly referred to as the “third eye.” At times, even while fully awake, I felt my body vibrate, as though struck by an energetic current. It resembled an intense electrical discharge coursing through me. At that time, I was unfamiliar with Satanism or Zevism; such ideas had not entered my horizon. I simply believed in nature and sought to study philosophy.
I recount these events because, in retrospect, the pieces now seem to cohere. In 2023, I came to believe that Hera led me toward Satanism/Zevism; thus, I interpret those earlier experiences as part of a process that, in some manner, directed me here. Yet after the episodes involving the light and the apparent attempts to harm me, I became afraid and ceased those practices.
I share all this to affirm that I believe spiritual truth exists and that I genuinely attempt to reflect upon what you explain here. At the same time, I ask you to understand that, regarding my identity, it is not simple for me to read certain assertions and immediately assent to them. Nevertheless, I have endeavored to do so with sincerity and goodwill.

Best Regards,

Sonnen Scent. ))
 
You're saying that it's your personal opinion, which says a lot that it's something that shouldn't be taken as absolute truth, then there's something else, it's not a fetish, at least cite science.

@Emergent13 speaks on behalf of all zevists, at least @Recycler1337 admit that it's your own opinion.

I will never allow anyone to call me mentally ill and disrespect me, because you continue to say the same thing about my statement confirming that biological sex does not change. Sometimes I just observe many of you and many of the things you say.

I like this debate just to you understand that I'm enjoying the conversation. :)

We don't have to be in accord in everything.
Mental deterioration begins when a person damages their health by trying to resemble the wrong gender. Modern technology doesn't allow this, nor does the level of energetic and spiritual work.I don't rule out the possibility that after 1,000 years of continuous scientific progress, at the rate of the last 50 years and increasing exponentially, this will become possible—and this will pose a very powerful and complex issue for society. I also don't rule out the possibility that some very powerful secret knowledge existed that could allow a person to change their appearance and gender.What is being offered today under the guise of gender reassignment—Jewish hormonal drugs (look who owns the factories that produce them), Jewish clinics that perform these "operations," and you can also look at who receives benefits from these clinics—is the TRUTH.Let's say it's insane that in Arab countries a man is stoned to death for wearing a dress and sleeping with another man – that's an animalistic perception of reality – humanity MUST get rid of that.But it's no less insane when a transgender person comes to an elementary school and asks children if they're comfortable with their genitals, sex, and gender – instead of a math lesson, as happens in Canada and other European countries – humanity must not DEGRADE to that level.
 
Very well, where are these statements by the member of the clergy of Zevism? Could you please post them here or indicate where I may consult them?
In any case, we can disagree respectfully.
There is another point I have observed: people almost always speak about trans women, but rarely about trans men. In biological terms, between black and white there are many shades of gray, and the biology of the physical world is important, as is spirituality. However, we cannot simply claim that everything is the work of the “Jewish enemy,” because if that is the case, it becomes very easy to deny the existence of other people and the way they choose to live.
Regarding children, I hope the matter is not reduced to a single topic used merely to evoke a kind of hatred against trans people.
I was born biologically male, and eight years ago I decided to present myself socially as a woman. I am aware that I am biologically male, and in chromosomal terms one would only know whether I am XX, XY, or another karyotype through a specific test. I will say this as well: for obvious safety reasons I cannot reveal myself, but physically you would not distinguish me from a European Caucasian woman. Even before, when I identified as male, I was androgynous, with fine features and a feminine face, and hormone treatment intensified these traits. I am conscious that, in terms of physical appearance, I possess the beauty and social perception of a woman, which gives me the confidence to live and conduct my life accordingly.

To be honest, there have only been losses, because I had to move to another city and go through all those things that I do not need to explain to people.
I only ask that you understand that my enemy is the same; I am part of the same spiritual lineage, and yet the goddess Hera led me to follow the teachings of Satanism, which here today is called Zevism. I merely ask for a respectful debate and for you to understand that I, for example, am entirely against the abuse of children in all its forms, and that anything which violates human ethics or contributes to the destruction of Zeus’s creation should itself be destroyed. Nevertheless, regardless of identifying as a woman and wishing to be respected as such, despite having been born male, the Gods do not spit on me, nor do they stone me.
To conclude my response, sometimes certain things we say can make other people’s lives more difficult. Even the Jews themselves hate trans people and gays; they merely seek to manipulate and lead us down tortuous paths. I also want you to understand that I am not a potential abuser, nor do I believe it is possible to change the fact that I was born male. However, it is possible for me to be respected, for in this matter only the Gods can judge me, and only they will know what to do with me thereafter.
In any case, my swords are sharpened, and I will offer my body as a shield to protect Zevism, regardless of anything.
I used anecdotal experiences to illustrate my case, but in these debates I prefer to remain neutral and rely less on emotion.
We are in the Age of Aquarius, and the debate must be clear and free from aggression (I am not saying that anyone has been aggressive at any point), but we need to cite references and explain why we hold our opinions, or whether they stem merely from pure prejudice and political agendas.

With my best regards.

First off, here is that article I mentioned by HPS Lydia, so this has been stated by clergy, Even HP. Cobra.
Also note what other members say in these.

Transgenderism absolutely has jewish origins.
"Transvestite' originated in 1910 from the German sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld, who would later develop the Berlin Institute where the very first 'sex change' operations took place. 'Transsexual' was not coined until 1949, 'transgender' not until 1971, and 'trans' (a very British term) not until 1996. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the first use of 'androgyne' was recorded in 1552, but it has only been in the last 10 years that people have claimed it for themselves to describe a state of being in-between, or having both genders. 'Polygender' is a late 1990s Californian invention used to describe a state of being multiple genders."

"At Hirschfield's infamous clinic, the first sex change operations were performed by Dr Felix Abraham: a mastectomy on a trans man in 1926, a penectomy on his domestic servant Dora in 1930, and a vaginoplasty on Lili Elbe, a Danish painter, in 1931. The surgery was not easy, and Lily died less than two years later from complications."

Hirschfeld was a jew....one of the most reviled and denounced by Hilter.

Many people have come after him continuing his kind of work like Dr. S.T. Woudstra, who performed the first sex change surgery in the Netherlands. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17373398/
From what i have just researched there are many (mixed) dutch jews with this surname. There are alot of mixed sephardic and Ashkenazi jews in Holland especially parts like Vollendam.

Susan stryker is not only a rabid leftist feminist and trans advocate but also a Zionist...she is a lesbian and has a jewish partner. Stryker herself also looks very jewish. All of these people who promote and started this agenda are close to or are jews.

Also, the book, Stone butch blues, one that promotes MTF transgenders was written by Leslie feinberg, who is a self proclaimed communist Jew. I DESPISE THIS BOOK as a butch lesbian and i have mercilessly torn it apart before in a tiktok video in hopes of saving lives, I am sick of so many queer women thinking and expecting that all butch lesbians will eventually transition because of this agenda.

There is nothing wrong with you being a feminine man. I am a butch lesbian, and I am misgendered OFTEN. I mog men from the shoulders up and mog women from the chest down. I have had what society called "masculine behaviors and tendancies" since i was a child. I grew up wearing boys cloths, workin with tools and wood, played football in high school, had mainly male friends, enlisted in the army at 17, now im a pipefitter making 6figs working in construction. I had a time when society and people pressured me to look and try to "act" more feminine and it did not sync well. Some girls are just born more "boy pretty" and some are boys are just more "girl pretty" ie more feminine or masculine naturally in the face, voice, or other behaviors and features. This is not a reason to think one is in the wrong body. I embody the feminine still physically and anyone who would really love me would appreciate this. I have been hit on by many gay men who misgender me. I have never had gender or body dysphoria and love who and what i am for all that is.

Many men and women who are gender nonconforming would go through life the way i have described above who identify as trans and think that this would all mean they are in the wrong body. i have seen examples of it. There is a lot of pressure also, for gendernonconforming men and women especially in the gay and lesbian comminities to "transition" its literally another toxic form of "pray the gay away" but this time its "trans the gay away"

Riddle me this: if trans women are women, why do they all still act like predatory toxic aggressive straight men on dating apps, and how they creep on women in public places? If a woman "transitions" her skeletal and body proportions for the most part will still be that of a womans. In both sexes cases chromosomes never change. Plastic surgery, taking out organs, and hormones will never trump inborn biology. Many transpeople regret what they have done and end up committing suicide and its extremely sad. There is nothing wrong with being a feminine man. It doesn't mean you cant be pretty. I bet a lot of lesbians and straight men would misgender you and think you were cute.

Its ok to be gender non conforming and not be in the wrong body. The notion of "when are you gunna transition already?" just because someone isnt a typical man or woman is no excuse. its like saying gendernonconformity isn't allowed to exist. Its like saying women cant have some masculinity and men can't have any femininity. All do to an extent and an extreme minority has the opposite energies more overtly than others. Natal placements and other things like culture and upbringing can factor into this as well. Also what each culture considers masculine or feminine is sometimes subjective, so someone transing purely based on those, and not following them the way their place of origin thinks is right, is completely delusional and baseless.

you are right as you are. Please for your own good cease and desist HRT if you take this. There is nothing wrong with how you want to present with clothing, if you want to wear make up ect. you can be a feminine man and still be a man. A factor i realize you may have it hard with is, feminine presenting men in a lot of cases have it harder than a woman who may present masculine, due to femininity inhertently being looked down apon. So if a man expresses anything feminine he is likely to be recieved with more contempt and even aggression, Which can be another huge factor into men wanting to 'transition". Leave that body alone <3
 
At the same time, I ask you to understand that, regarding my identity, it is not simple for me to read certain assertions and immediately assent to them. Nevertheless, I have endeavored to do so with sincerity and goodwill.
This is normal, as is the “negative” perception you have of the truth on the matter. Your mind is dealing with conflicting information on a different level and is in conflict.

Awareness is the first step in the healing process. This will be an inevitable step for you if you continue on this path.

The Gods and meditation will confront you with the problem, and from that moment on, you will have two choices (the free will granted by the Gods): to face it or to flee, with the respective consequences.
 
Here we go again, sometimes you guys sound really aggressive when you talk about gender transitions. Whenever this topic comes up here or elsewhere, people always talk nonsense. I never see Zevism clergy giving these opinions, as if these people were sick, I would really like to sit down with you and discuss these issues.
You have brothers and sisters who are trans and are following the same path. The Gods do not ignore us or diminish us...
We have to use science to discuss these matters not common sense.
It's not that we hate them, we just believe they are deceived. This is dangerous for them and could push them over the edge.
 
The word "gender" was invented by the pedophile rapist jew Jonathan Money. He was an insane jew rapist criminal "psychologist" similar to sigmond fraud. The story is that a circumcision was done wrong, where a boy's penis was mostly cut off. And the boy also had a twin brother who was fine. The pedophile jew used this as a way to test its insane ideas by having the "perfect" test subjects, two identical twin boys to see what is from nature and what is from nurture, as they are genetically identical so nature is the same, and they are in the same family so even nurture is the same other than the specific things that they are purposefully doing different.

Jonathan Money said if his penis was cut off as a baby, they should just pretend that he is a girl and tell him that he is a girl for his whole life. So Jonathan Money would work with these young children for their whole childhoods, working with them a few times per month or even every week, I don't remember exactly how often. And what his "work" actually was is that he would rape both of these children, and force these children to rape each other. Force the uninjured boy to rape the injured boy. And this would happen hundreds of times. With his "theory" that gender is different from physical sex and that gender could be changed, so by raping this boy in a similar way to how a sexual action would work for a girl, try to convince him that he was a girl. And for all of this, the boy never stopped saying the truth that he is a boy, he is not a girl, and everything in his life and his childhood is extremely wrong. Some how this result was a confirmation of this theory of "gender" by saying that the boy thinks his gender is male when his sex is female. Except the entire premise is a fraudulent hoax because his sex is male, his body is male, his DNA is male, his soul is male, and he has been male for as long as his soul has ever been existing. Having a body that has been gruesomely destroyed and disfigured does not change what the body actually is.

Finally as young adults, I believe that both of the boys killed themselves. At least the disfigured boy surely did kill himself, I do not remember for sure if the other brother also did but I think they both did.

This is where your "gender" word comes from. This is where your "gender theory" comes from. This is where the entirety of the fraudulent jewish pseudoscience of "gender" and "transgenderism" is all originating from. Absolutely pure subhuman jewish evil that no human could even imagine. This is what you are accepting, following, going along with, and treating as valid. This Jonathan Money who was one of the most evil people to ever exist, and you happily follow his lead and model your life after his "creation."


There is a reason why almost every major mass-shooter for the last several years have all been "transgender" because this is the word for people who are absolutely insane, absolutely full of self hatred enough to completely deny their entire existence and reality, and are entirely "at war" with the entire world and with reality itself because even the most basic simple things are not what they want it to be.

You are not a woman. You are a man who hates himself. You hated yourself enough to want to not exist anymore and instead want to be something else that is not yourself. You are living as a lie in the most fundamental ways, and are trying as hard as possible to pretend to be something that you are not and something that you could never be. All of the synthetic fake hormones that you are overdosing on has been destroying your endocrine system, destroying your mind, and destroying your body. Even for a man, too much testosterone is very dangerous and harmful. Even for a woman, too much estrogen is very dangerous and harmful. And especially if it is something that you are absolutely not supposed to have that amount of. There is enormous physical and mental harm and damage being done just from the hormones and other drugs. And of course even worse if the body has been physically destroyed by surgeries.

The boy who had his genitals surgically cut off as a child, and been drugged, tortured, brainwashed, and raped for his entire childhood. That is basically the absolute worst and most horrible thing that could ever possibly happen to anybody. I can not imagine anything worse. No wonder all of these "trans" people are so purely insane and why so many of them become things like mass shooters, because they have willingly and purposefully decided to emulate the life of Jonathan Money's victim and go through these same traumas that were done to him.
This was a horrible read, I checked the Wikipedia page of the abused guy and it is truly horrendous. And they probably hided many details on Wikipedia. You can never hate them enough.
 
I see the transgender problem in this way.

I'll put it in very simple terms without emotionalism or feelings.

There is a problem with self acceptance, doesn't matter the source, and one then mutilate oneself.

In the end the problem isn't solved but it got worse.

The feelings of powerlessness, not being accepted, and similar states, will be later balanced in the opposite way, and such disasters as the school shootings or similar happen.
And then the cycle repeat again.
 
We have to use science to discuss these matters not common sense.
I have bore witness to the justification of the most egregious crimes using solely (((science and logic))). The rejection of any and all right-brain modes of thought is a total jewish trap.
Intuition and instinct exist for a reason, denying it just makes you a useful idiot for any decent word smith.
 
It is a version of the Sunk Cost Fallacy. The idea that a gambler who has continously lost very large amounts of money feels like he needs to keep gambling for the chance to win some of it back. But he will never win it back, he will only continue to lose more and more money until he is homeless and has nothing left. Or some times there is some "ego" part of it, the person not wanting to admit to making such a mistake and not wanting to look dumb. Or even not wanting to admit to themselves and face the full truth of how much they have ruined and destroyed their lives, because such a thing like that is painful to look at.

When a person has been injured and bleeding for a very long time, and there has been a very large amount of accumulated damage and growing problems that will be increasingly difficult to repair. The answer is not to ignore it and cover it up. Keep putting more and more bandages on top of an open wound, but the whole time it is actually rotting and dying at the bottom. The injury needs to be exposed, uncovered, and very carefully cleaned out and disinfected. And only after that then it is possible to start healing and start becoming healthier and stronger. You can't just ignore and cover up an injury because it is difficult or mentally/emotionally painful to think about how bad it actually is, because it is only getting worse every day. It is necessary for all of us to directly examine our problems and directly work to repair them, and even more necessary when these problems are so large and extreme as something like that.

Do not be afraid to accept how much of a mistake this has been and do not be afraid to accept that you have been ruining your life. Because it is not lost and it is not too late. You can now begin to work to heal and repair yourself from all of these things. Do not have the sunk cost fallacy.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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