Other: #80080 Is this place dying?

Jan 3, 2026#1

They really need to fix the links that are down has been down for months.

Jan 3, 2026#2

Ask Zeus Operatorsaid:post: 1178167
I'm asking here because I'm concerned that this place is dying. So many links are down. , islamicevil.com, 20thcenturyhistory.com, kaballahexposed.com, orthodoxyexposed.org. I'm sure there's some I'm missing. ToZ ritual schedules are not properly updated. Library of Thoth is still Library of Thoth despite us being the Temple of Zeus now. The ToZ website has AI art in it now, a lot of the original human made art is gone. The ToZ website also links to tozrituals.org, a now dead domain instead of tozrituals.org.
Even on these forums there's some dead links, such as the main forum linking to "templeofzeus.com" which isn't in use. It feels like this place has a new coat of paint covering up what is now decades of decay. Even these forums feel like a ghost town now with a few core members remaining and some newcomers that often stay for a few months. It really feels like a majority of this isn't cared about anymore. And I mean that as a lot of these issues have simple and clean fixes and the AI images reek of laziness. I don't mean to offend, I simply mean to be blunt and honest.

I cannot speak on behalf of the administration, but what I see here is a major transition process. While it is not good on the surface or individual level for these sites to be down, this is the byproduct of work diverted to others areas. If you are on VT, a prime example of new growth of ToZ, you will see that major updates for HoO were just announced by HPZM. Both of these platforms are highly relevant priorities for ToZ which give meaning to the other sites, but these likely had to be done first.

Yes some tasks alone are "only 5 minutes", but if the sheer quantity of workload is many hours total, then this diverts attention to priority areas. Let us not forget how each person must keep up a normal life, work, social responsibilities, spiritual routine and schedule, and so on. Individually we would not excuse certain things, but when the entire picture of ToZ is seen, one understands that progress is being made.

As for the AI artwork, what else could be done here? You realize the alternative would require like a $500 commission of an artist who can match the quality and tastes of Zevism? The AI artwork, even if flawed in some ways, outmatches this choice greatly in terms of speed, quality, and material requirement.

Last edited: May 5, 2026

Ask Zeus Operatorsaid:post: 1178167
I'm asking here because I'm concerned that this place is dying. So many links are down. , islamicevil.com, 20thcenturyhistory.com, kaballahexposed.com, orthodoxyexposed.org. I'm sure there's some I'm missing. ToZ ritual schedules are not properly updated. Library of Thoth is still Library of Thoth despite us being the Temple of Zeus now. The ToZ website has AI art in it now, a lot of the original human made art is gone. The ToZ website also links to tozrituals.org, a now dead domain instead of tozrituals.org.
Even on these forums there's some dead links, such as the main forum linking to "templeofzeus.com" which isn't in use. It feels like this place has a new coat of paint covering up what is now decades of decay. Even these forums feel like a ghost town now with a few core members remaining and some newcomers that often stay for a few months. It really feels like a majority of this isn't cared about anymore. And I mean that as a lot of these issues have simple and clean fixes and the AI images reek of laziness. I don't mean to offend, I simply mean to be blunt and honest.

I cannot speak on behalf of the administration, but what I see here is a major transition process. While it is not good on the surface or individual level for these sites to be down, this is the byproduct of work diverted to others areas. If you are on VT, a prime example of new growth of ToZ, you will see that major updates for HoO were just announced by HPZM. Both of these platforms are highly relevant priorities for ToZ which give meaning to the other sites, but these likely had to be done first.

Yes some tasks alone are "only 5 minutes", but if the sheer quantity of workload is many hours total, then this diverts attention to priority areas. Let us not forget how each person must keep up a normal life, work, social responsibilities, spiritual routine and schedule, and so on. Individually we would not excuse certain things, but when the entire picture of ToZ is seen, one understands that progress is being made.

As for the AI artwork, what else could be done here? You realize the alternative would require like a $500 commission of an artist who can match the quality and tastes of Zevism? The AI artwork, even if flawed in some ways, outmatches this choice greatly in terms of speed, quality, and material requirement.

Jan 3, 2026#3

I don't like Ai "art" either, but until we get real artists (by this I mean, using one's hand to draw and paint for real) who will draw and paint everything, then the Ai art is currently there.

As for the broken links, we are a very limited staff... unpaid. All other websites have a large staff of paid workers. The few we have, are doing this in between their real jobs and other responsibilities.

We are not dying, we are growing. We are laying the foundations now, and stabilizing everything to ensure we grow from a stronger foundation.

Liturgical Terms of Zevism (everyone please read and familiarize yourself with these)

I don't like Ai "art" either, but until we get real artists (by this I mean, using one's hand to draw and paint for real) who will draw and paint everything, then the Ai art is currently there.

As for the broken links, we are a very limited staff... unpaid. All other websites have a large staff of paid workers. The few we have, are doing this in between their real jobs and other responsibilities.

We are not dying, we are growing. We are laying the foundations now, and stabilizing everything to ensure we grow from a stronger foundation.

Jan 3, 2026#4

You can use archive.org for links that are down.

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Jan 3, 2026#5

Ask Zeus Operatorsaid:post: 1178167
I'm asking here because I'm concerned that this place is dying. So many links are down. , islamicevil.com, 20thcenturyhistory.com, kaballahexposed.com, orthodoxyexposed.org. I'm sure there's some I'm missing. ToZ ritual schedules are not properly updated. Library of Thoth is still Library of Thoth despite us being the Temple of Zeus now. The ToZ website has AI art in it now, a lot of the original human made art is gone. The ToZ website also links to tozrituals.org, a now dead domain instead of tozrituals.org.
Even on these forums there's some dead links, such as the main forum linking to "templeofzeus.com" which isn't in use. It feels like this place has a new coat of paint covering up what is now decades of decay. Even these forums feel like a ghost town now with a few core members remaining and some newcomers that often stay for a few months. It really feels like a majority of this isn't cared about anymore. And I mean that as a lot of these issues have simple and clean fixes and the AI images reek of laziness. I don't mean to offend, I simply mean to be blunt and honest.

You need to join Vultus Templorum.
We ask a lot of our questions there because it feels like we are actually talking to other members.
Our clergy have personal lives too and it takes time to change things.
Even if we had artists, it takes a lot of time to draw. Everyone uses AI now because it's faster.

Ask Zeus Operatorsaid:post: 1178167
I'm asking here because I'm concerned that this place is dying. So many links are down. , islamicevil.com, 20thcenturyhistory.com, kaballahexposed.com, orthodoxyexposed.org. I'm sure there's some I'm missing. ToZ ritual schedules are not properly updated. Library of Thoth is still Library of Thoth despite us being the Temple of Zeus now. The ToZ website has AI art in it now, a lot of the original human made art is gone. The ToZ website also links to tozrituals.org, a now dead domain instead of tozrituals.org.
Even on these forums there's some dead links, such as the main forum linking to "templeofzeus.com" which isn't in use. It feels like this place has a new coat of paint covering up what is now decades of decay. Even these forums feel like a ghost town now with a few core members remaining and some newcomers that often stay for a few months. It really feels like a majority of this isn't cared about anymore. And I mean that as a lot of these issues have simple and clean fixes and the AI images reek of laziness. I don't mean to offend, I simply mean to be blunt and honest.

You need to join Vultus Templorum.
We ask a lot of our questions there because it feels like we are actually talking to other members.
Our clergy have personal lives too and it takes time to change things.
Even if we had artists, it takes a lot of time to draw. Everyone uses AI now because it's faster.

Jan 3, 2026#6

Ask Zeus Operatorsaid:post: 1178167
Even these forums feel like a ghost town now with a few core members remaining and some newcomers that often stay for a few months. It really feels like a majority of this isn't cared about anymore.

These forums have been around for two decades more or less at this point, many questions you can think of have been answered countless times, from Meditation, to Yoga, to Magick, to life advice and so on. Last year we had the blessing of having many of the older messages accessible again.

Look, I understand that human beings, especially nowdays, are all about novelty. We tend to get bored quickly, always wanting to get to next thing very fast, but people here have to understand that they are literally sitting on a gold mine.

HP Zevios Metathronos's account has like 14k posts, HPS Pythia and HPS Lydia have thousands and thousands of messages here. There is an enormous amount of value to be extracted, if one goes back and carefully reads many of these messages.

Spiritual texts shouldn't be a quick and lazy read either. One, if he's actually serious about evolution, must read with great attention, trying to absorb all the content and understand it to a deep level. Also reading beetween the lines, to see if there is some hidden value that the writer wanted to give out only to the more careful readers. It takes effort, but it's more than worth it.

By doing this you will also notice that you had completely forgotten about some extremely important teachings that you read years ago. By reading these posts again, you will also understand them to a much deeper level now that you're more advanced in the Path. I cannot stress the importance of this process enough.

Members are going to benefit enormously if they do this earnestly. The Spiritual Path is about serious study, Meditation and work, it's not about constant novelty and social media type of activity all the time.

"All that is needed to change the course of history is the will of one single man. You can make all the difference."

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My posts: Higher Levels of Existence - About temptation - Guide to Telekinesis - About enemy attacks - The importance of optimism - A thread on Mental Influence and Evil Eye (use translator) - My thoughts on obtaining Siddhis (use translator) - About faith and doubts - My thoughts on the extreme importance of dopamine fasting - For those who are still failing - Some tips about Meditation - Visualization - Mental Influence and enemy attacks - Focus and energy killers - Strength is a choice - Astral projection - On Intuition and Overcoming Pain

Ask Zeus Operatorsaid:post: 1178167
Even these forums feel like a ghost town now with a few core members remaining and some newcomers that often stay for a few months. It really feels like a majority of this isn't cared about anymore.

These forums have been around for two decades more or less at this point, many questions you can think of have been answered countless times, from Meditation, to Yoga, to Magick, to life advice and so on. Last year we had the blessing of having many of the older messages accessible again.

Look, I understand that human beings, especially nowdays, are all about novelty. We tend to get bored quickly, always wanting to get to next thing very fast, but people here have to understand that they are literally sitting on a gold mine.

HP Zevios Metathronos's account has like 14k posts, HPS Pythia and HPS Lydia have thousands and thousands of messages here. There is an enormous amount of value to be extracted, if one goes back and carefully reads many of these messages.

Spiritual texts shouldn't be a quick and lazy read either. One, if he's actually serious about evolution, must read with great attention, trying to absorb all the content and understand it to a deep level. Also reading beetween the lines, to see if there is some hidden value that the writer wanted to give out only to the more careful readers. It takes effort, but it's more than worth it.

By doing this you will also notice that you had completely forgotten about some extremely important teachings that you read years ago. By reading these posts again, you will also understand them to a much deeper level now that you're more advanced in the Path. I cannot stress the importance of this process enough.

Members are going to benefit enormously if they do this earnestly. The Spiritual Path is about serious study, Meditation and work, it's not about constant novelty and social media type of activity all the time.

Jan 3, 2026#7

I also want to add, just because members who were once active on the forums are not here anymore, it doesn't mean that they aren't still on this Path. This is a Path that you never truly leave, once you know the Truth you can never 'unknow it'.

"All that is needed to change the course of history is the will of one single man. You can make all the difference."

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My posts: Higher Levels of Existence - About temptation - Guide to Telekinesis - About enemy attacks - The importance of optimism - A thread on Mental Influence and Evil Eye (use translator) - My thoughts on obtaining Siddhis (use translator) - About faith and doubts - My thoughts on the extreme importance of dopamine fasting - For those who are still failing - Some tips about Meditation - Visualization - Mental Influence and enemy attacks - Focus and energy killers - Strength is a choice - Astral projection - On Intuition and Overcoming Pain

Jan 4, 2026#8

Ask Zeus Operatorsaid:post: 1178167
I'm asking here because I'm concerned that this place is dying. So many links are down. , islamicevil.com, 20thcenturyhistory.com, kaballahexposed.com, orthodoxyexposed.org. I'm sure there's some I'm missing. ToZ ritual schedules are not properly updated. Library of Thoth is still Library of Thoth despite us being the Temple of Zeus now. The ToZ website has AI art in it now, a lot of the original human made art is gone. The ToZ website also links to tozrituals.org, a now dead domain instead of tozrituals.org.
Even on these forums there's some dead links, such as the main forum linking to "templeofzeus.com" which isn't in use. It feels like this place has a new coat of paint covering up what is now decades of decay. Even these forums feel like a ghost town now with a few core members remaining and some newcomers that often stay for a few months. It really feels like a majority of this isn't cared about anymore. And I mean that as a lot of these issues have simple and clean fixes and the AI images reek of laziness. I don't mean to offend, I simply mean to be blunt and honest.

I can assure you and everyone else that we are absolutely not dying but the opposite, the Temple is undergoing a major transformation upwards and in a far more favorable direction for our growth. I don't know the exact reason why those sites are down but we have IT members working on them and on many other projects, the Library is also undergoing a major update, all non-English sites (many of which have many issues currently, which will be dealt with in the following months). Granted that we all do what we must do (and hopefully, more people joining us as time goes), it is a matter of months until Temple of Zeus will be completely operational and fully updated.

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Ask Zeus Operatorsaid:post: 1178167
I'm asking here because I'm concerned that this place is dying. So many links are down. , islamicevil.com, 20thcenturyhistory.com, kaballahexposed.com, orthodoxyexposed.org. I'm sure there's some I'm missing. ToZ ritual schedules are not properly updated. Library of Thoth is still Library of Thoth despite us being the Temple of Zeus now. The ToZ website has AI art in it now, a lot of the original human made art is gone. The ToZ website also links to tozrituals.org, a now dead domain instead of tozrituals.org.
Even on these forums there's some dead links, such as the main forum linking to "templeofzeus.com" which isn't in use. It feels like this place has a new coat of paint covering up what is now decades of decay. Even these forums feel like a ghost town now with a few core members remaining and some newcomers that often stay for a few months. It really feels like a majority of this isn't cared about anymore. And I mean that as a lot of these issues have simple and clean fixes and the AI images reek of laziness. I don't mean to offend, I simply mean to be blunt and honest.

I can assure you and everyone else that we are absolutely not dying but the opposite, the Temple is undergoing a major transformation upwards and in a far more favorable direction for our growth. I don't know the exact reason why those sites are down but we have IT members working on them and on many other projects, the Library is also undergoing a major update, all non-English sites (many of which have many issues currently, which will be dealt with in the following months). Granted that we all do what we must do (and hopefully, more people joining us as time goes), it is a matter of months until Temple of Zeus will be completely operational and fully updated.

Jan 4, 2026#9

Having ultra spiritual powers given via non stop God rituals releases and HoO releases is not "dying" but we are in aeonic transition, the Clergy is EXTREMELY busy, and yet many members are asleep. Barely could be named Zevists, they ain't.

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Jan 4, 2026#10

Sorry but I have to say this bluntly here; simple and clean fix?

I paint myself. There are dedicated artists and even animators for bitcoin monkeys, fandom art, erotica games and other nonsense, but somehow they are very obstinate about us, mostly due to politics. Well, I can't single-handedly get artists out of the communist stupidity they infected themselves with since the 1920s.

Beyond that - in order to have the artistic prowess of the ancient sculptors, the Italian and Netherlandic painters and the academic French artists that truthfully 'could' do the Gods justice and not consign them to vulgar dimensions (in a European context anyway), you need to be an institution as powerful as a government or the Catholic Church (which HPS Pythia rightfully said has hoarded most of the world's wealth for aeons) to pay and train them. The same even goes for animation which is a tedious and difficult skillset. At the very least, you need to have a budget like a massive video game. Even then, obviously, it takes time. Sketches and woodcuts could perhaps be done quickly, paintings can take months or more.

For the Hellenic Gods, there will be many classical sculptures and paintings represented by artists. I took care on the Names of Zeus to use proper art. Even for the Personalities, I repainted a lot of the portraits under limited time constraints to resemble the honored one, reduce historical inaccuracy and shed the aesthetic section of 'pure' AI which took a considerable chunk of time.

The other issue you are ignoring is copyright. It's not the same wild west internet as the 2000s anymore. Even mere photos of things in museums have strict copyright rules.

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Sorry but I have to say this bluntly here; simple and clean fix?

I paint myself. There are dedicated artists and even animators for bitcoin monkeys, fandom art, erotica games and other nonsense, but somehow they are very obstinate about us, mostly due to politics. Well, I can't single-handedly get artists out of the communist stupidity they infected themselves with since the 1920s.

Beyond that - in order to have the artistic prowess of the ancient sculptors, the Italian and Netherlandic painters and the academic French artists that truthfully 'could' do the Gods justice and not consign them to vulgar dimensions (in a European context anyway), you need to be an institution as powerful as a government or the Catholic Church (which HPS Pythia rightfully said has hoarded most of the world's wealth for aeons) to pay and train them. The same even goes for animation which is a tedious and difficult skillset. At the very least, you need to have a budget like a massive video game. Even then, obviously, it takes time. Sketches and woodcuts could perhaps be done quickly, paintings can take months or more.

For the Hellenic Gods, there will be many classical sculptures and paintings represented by artists. I took care on the Names of Zeus to use proper art. Even for the Personalities, I repainted a lot of the portraits under limited time constraints to resemble the honored one, reduce historical inaccuracy and shed the aesthetic section of 'pure' AI which took a considerable chunk of time.

The other issue you are ignoring is copyright. It's not the same wild west internet as the 2000s anymore. Even mere photos of things in museums have strict copyright rules.

Jan 4, 2026#11

I would still like to express my opinion on this matter, even though the responses given by the SGs and the High Priestess are already more than sufficient.

Since I gather from your message that you would like to see some changes made, why not contribute? It's easy to talk when you're just a spectator.

All the sites are inactive because they will be further improved, obviously for the good of the community. The fact is that no one here is a machine, and the few members who are actually working hard do not have this as their only job.
Not all ToZ rituals have been updated, but they are all undergoing changes.

I find it very offensive that all the sacrifices and changes that have characterized the growth of the Temple of Zeus so far are not highlighted.
Always remember that you do not see the whole picture, but only a piece of it. What we do not see, I am sure, is full of plans on the part of the entire clergy to ensure that all the necessary changes to the Temple of Zeus take place.

Therefore, yes, there are many things to improve, but thank those who are working on them for their sacrifices and hard work because they deserve it.

I believe that those who say that the Temple of Zeus is dying have not understood what the future holds for us, but that is not a problem because you still have access to all the sermons of our clergy and the library (even if the name has not been changed, you can still read it).

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I would still like to express my opinion on this matter, even though the responses given by the SGs and the High Priestess are already more than sufficient.

Since I gather from your message that you would like to see some changes made, why not contribute? It's easy to talk when you're just a spectator.

All the sites are inactive because they will be further improved, obviously for the good of the community. The fact is that no one here is a machine, and the few members who are actually working hard do not have this as their only job.
Not all ToZ rituals have been updated, but they are all undergoing changes.

I find it very offensive that all the sacrifices and changes that have characterized the growth of the Temple of Zeus so far are not highlighted.
Always remember that you do not see the whole picture, but only a piece of it. What we do not see, I am sure, is full of plans on the part of the entire clergy to ensure that all the necessary changes to the Temple of Zeus take place.

Therefore, yes, there are many things to improve, but thank those who are working on them for their sacrifices and hard work because they deserve it.

I believe that those who say that the Temple of Zeus is dying have not understood what the future holds for us, but that is not a problem because you still have access to all the sermons of our clergy and the library (even if the name has not been changed, you can still read it).

Jan 4, 2026#12

All issues, concerns, and updates related to the sites are being handled with the utmost care.

There are MASSIVE efforts that are being under way, and our Temple will continue to exist in prosperity and abundance.

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Jan 4, 2026#13

It is a mistake to confuse a total reconstruction for "decay". The dead links are actually the result of us systematically dismantling a 20 year old fragmented infrastructure to rebuild every single site with modern technologies, superior aestethics and a better user experience. It's not neglect, it's quite the contrary, evolution.

There is nothing simple about rebuilding two decades of infrastructure while simultaneously restructuring and expanding the content within a complex, high-performance ecosystem. We are not dying, it's quite the opposite actually, we have never been more alive.

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It is a mistake to confuse a total reconstruction for "decay". The dead links are actually the result of us systematically dismantling a 20 year old fragmented infrastructure to rebuild every single site with modern technologies, superior aestethics and a better user experience. It's not neglect, it's quite the contrary, evolution.

There is nothing simple about rebuilding two decades of infrastructure while simultaneously restructuring and expanding the content within a complex, high-performance ecosystem. We are not dying, it's quite the opposite actually, we have never been more alive.

Jan 4, 2026#14

I think the forums are less used because now we have the Vultus Templorum platform (let's call it a Discord-like) which is a way more direct approach to asking questions and receiving answers, but it's actually a symptom of the opposite of what you're fearing, it's growth not decay.

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I declare before You and before the witness of all the heavens that Your Names are restored. Restored truly. Restored rightly. Restored in their power and their majesty and their original splendor.

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Jan 4, 2026#17

TOZ is definitely not dying, but it also isn’t growing much yet.

Despite the massive amounts of spiritual power we’ve poured on this place over the last 2 decades, we can barely get like a thousand people visiting here on a daily basis.

Our group rituals get about 20-30 participants max, on a good day. Usually it’s more like 10-15.

This is strange to me as there are hundreds of thousands of pagans, thousands of witches, tens of thousands of occultists and so on. They don’t seem pulled towards this place.

The Temple of Zeus Youtube channel also doesn’t get much traction, about a few hundred viewers, and some get a thousand or a few thousand.

Again interest in the occult is huge out there. There are occult videos with hundreds of thousands of views, some have millions.

A question that keeps going into my head, is if there truly is a genuine Divine Power behind this place, why is it not reflected in it having a much larger influential power? Why aren’t our websites and videos attracting hundreds of thousands of visitors daily? Videos from occult outsiders whether wiccans, new agers or kabbalist enemies get hundreds of thousands of views.

This could of course change over time, perhaps it’s not the right time yet. Other things may need to be achieved first in the collective minds of the people before TOZ becomes mainstream.