The Gods #76491 Questions about the Temple of Zeus

[Ask Satya Operator]

Even though I believe this is a good change, I am confused. Do we acknowledge that Satan is Beelzebul? Or are they still two separate beings? Shall we not use Father Satan's name anymore and use Zeus instead to communicate? Is Satan's ritual obsolete now, or is Beelzebul's ritual obsolete? Were my experiences with Satan and Beelzebul, experiences with different aspects of one individual God? Are Thor and Odin the same God as well? Thanks and sorry for my questions, I'm just confused.

 

[Satyanik]

They are different Gods. I suggest you carefully reread the latest Sermons of High Priest Zevios Metathronos that encapsulate the answers you seek.


No, Their Rituals are not obsolete.


Also, They are not the same God. Odin is Satanas. Satanas = Wodanaz

Satanas or Wodanaz: The Linguistic Origins of Odin

This is false. They are not different gods. They are the same god

Satan is the spiritual/unmanifested aspect, and Baal Zebul is the physical/manifested aspect

But physically they are the same god and the same god will answer whether you use Satan’s sigil or Baal Zebul’s

I suggest you take your own advice and reread the sermons, meditate on the information given, and approach Satan himself and ask for guidance towards clarification on this subject

 

[Satyanik]

Also, They are not the same God. Odin is Satanas. Satanas = Wodanaz

Satanas or Wodanaz: The Linguistic Origins of Odin

These are also the same God. Satan = Odin

Baal Zebul = Thor

Satan = Baal Zebul

therefore Satan = Thor

these are all allegorical names of the same being to teach us spiritually, as I said above.

Satan = unmanifested/unseen/spiritual aspect of the universe. Baal Zebul = manifested/seen/physical aspect of the universe

 

[Khem Nefermed]

Exoterically, one God can take many identities.
Esoterically, one God's being can have many aspects.
This is why this question is particularly hard to clarify.

"Are Satan and Baalzebul one and the same?"
Yes, they are the same being and "person". Zeus is Baalzebul, Zeus is Satan, Baalzebul is Satan.

"Should we instead use Zeus to communicate?"
Either are fine. Satan, Satanas, Satya, Zeus, Zeus Lucifer, and also names like Odin/Wotan or other identities depending on what you feel closest to.
I've personally found Zeus Lucifer to be the best to call Him, and I am neutral to most mythologies and cultures because of how I was raised, so I'd say this is a good "neutral opinion".
If you are Greek, you might find it very close to home to use Zeus. If you found the Gods by looking into the Enemy's works and reverse engineering, Satan might be close to you. Similarly to if you are an older member.
The same being will pick up the phone.

"Is either Ritual obsolete?"
No. The Rituals serve many roles, including complex Theurgy, because the Gods are not just beings, but also aspects of the Universe, pillars of the Soul, and so much more. Satanas and Baalzebul represent two different pillars of the Soul, and two different aspects of existence, two different "powers of God", etc., but are ultimately the same being. In the Temple, it was told that Satan's Absolution Ritual deals with the parasivanic (before existence) side of things in a much more direct way than Baalzebul's Power Ritual. Note also that one is an Absolution Ritual and one is a Power Ritual.
While I can't explain exactly everything a Ritual does (this is beyond my level by a lot), they do in fact do different things.

"Are Odin and Thor the same person?"
Yes. Zeus, Poseidon and Hades are all the same person. Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva, too. This, while "new information" to some, is not that hard to believe.

It's fine to be confused, these changes will be more clarified with announcements, and more importantly, with time.
In the meantime, do feel free to experiment. Use different names (Satan and Zeus, for example), and see who picks up the phone, etc.
Depending on your level, you might not feel that they are the same being responding, because I also felt different energies at first, but there is a common essence between the two names. Advancement will make this clearer, as there are gaps for me as well.

 

[sinbad]

I'm not sure why so many people are confused.

You can think of it like if one person makes several accounts on a website. Two different accounts, same "user" behind them both.

This is very reductionist/simplistic explanation, but hopefully it makes it less confusing and easier to comprehend.

 

[Björn666]

Hello, Brother/Sister!

I dont fully agree with You fully

If They Are the Same Gods,then why did High Priestess Pythia say that Father Satan and Baalzebul are not the same Gods?

For example, Mammon is the money aspect of Zeus, and the JoS site provides information about this.

But there is no such information about Father Satan. As far as I know, they are not the same gods, though they are connected, and I will try to explain it.

As we know, there is Anu (Akasha, Chaos), Enki (from An—like Anu—and Ki), and Enlil (Enki's brother).

Anu is pure potential, just energy.

Satan, as I understand, is the architect of Chaos—they are the same, but Akasha itself has no character or emotions, only potential energy. Father Satan manifests this energy into life, while Father Baalzebul represents a more physical structure and is the brother of Father Satan.

Hail Satan! Hail Baalzebul!