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I'm not having much luck with the hand position.  Probably because I can't really see it in the picture very well.  The vibration is really good and it got a lot easier after listening to High Priestess Maxine Dietrich do it.  I can certainly feel it and know that I'm doing it right.  My question is, what is the difference between having your 3rd eye open and being completely outside your body on the astral?  I don't understand why you would use your 3rd eye when you can just leave your body.  I'm still doing it and I'm doing what I'm supposed to, but, just wondering.
 
the 3rd eye allows you to perceive the astral plane without needing to leave your body, plus they are seperate skills/abilities with a kinda similar outcome, plus there's this thing called "astral recall", basically means if you arn't really good at handling the mind-splitting effect when you exit your body, you won't remember anything when you return to your body, plus there are people like me in spiritual satanism(just hoping) that are fine with staying on the physical but being able to perceive the astral(and above planes/dimentions). hope i answer your question about the uses of the 3rd eye.
 
<font>Awesome.  Yes.  That really helps!  So you believe that by exteriorizing through your 3rd eye, you remain connected to your body and have an easier time with communications / recall.  I thought so.<font>  <font>I think there is a definite reason for doing that instead of completely exteriorizing and I think it has to do with staying directly connected to the Kundalini serpent.  But that’s just my theory – it could be complete bullshit.  I’ll find out soon enough I guess.
  You helped me out a lot, so I’ll help you with understanding the mind splitting thing.  When you exteriorize completely from your body, and I can’t do this except occasionally and normally without any volitional control… when you do that, you can become “dispersed”.

Dispersion comes from a very simple thing.  Exteriorized; you can travel anywhere and do practically anything.  So, let’s say you start a task a block down the road from where your body is located.  There is still a tether to your body; automatically.  No need to worry.  At this point you can go back to your body and you’ll remember everything.

<font>OK, now in addition, you make a “split” as you refer to it and you go check 3 blocks down the street from there, to see if the kids are still playing basketball while you’re still at the same location a block down the street.  You’re in two places.  No problem.  You then return to your body and you remember everything.
  <font>Now in addition to that; you “split” again and go somewhere and do something else a bunch more times.  Then you forget what you’re doing at the first location.  That’s because there is no “real” location, and you have to realize that.  You have just become “dispersed”. 

<font>So, you run back to your body freaking out that you have amnesia and don’t know where you are, because the map you have is gone in your head, not realizing, that you haven’t actually traveled anywhere!  Space isn’t real on the astral, it’s imaginary and not required but can still be used.  All you have to do is relax and think about where you went and so forth and it will all come back to you and you will see it all in your mind.  And then you can do more stuff or simply go back to your body and you’ll remember everything.

<font>Your mind doesn’t split like in “fractions” class or something.  Truth is, you can experience “everything” by “splitting” and know everything, so the mind splitting amnesia thing is not true, accept for beginners that try to apply physical world components to the astral.  Space is a “construct” on the astral i.e. it’s made up and not real or needed, from what I can tell – nothing more than a physical world thing and not spiritual.

<font> <font>I’m thinking that projecting through your 3rd eye offers protections to your body, that you wouldn’t have while completely exterior from your body.  But, I think you can learn how to completely protect yourself exactly the same way, whether you’re completely exterior from your body i.e. outside of it or exterior and refusing to leave the body.  Truth is; it’s not really possible for a spiritual being to be “inside” of a body.  It’s only possible for a spiritual being to be convinced by a fucken scumbag piece of shit that they “are” a body with the possibility of having a spirit if they are a good boy or girl.  What do you think?
 
PS I understand what you mean by the last paragraph but to me there are things that can't be done without being on the physical plane, in time that Change for me but I really enjoy the physical, I've been stuck in my head for my entire life and I'm quite refreshed getting out it, I'm disciplining myself with that and grounding my self to earth then I'll do astral projection work :p
 
Well, here's my experience with it, in the beginning I learned a lot form my guardian through a pendulum, she could cause my muscles to twitch and that's how she got my attention when she needed to tell me something, and the process would be like a game of 20 questions until I figured out exactly what she wanted to tell me.
Early on when I became a satanist, there were no problems for me in terms of figuring out how the spiritual satanist thing works, and it was the most natural thing to me ever. My friend is a satanist and he was the one who brought me to it, anyway, turns out he lucked out, I found out from my guardian that I had been a satanist since 3 lifetimes ago, and I also in those lifetimes never astral projected, which is kind of weird but is fine with me.
My guardian demon lead me to the Kings and queens meditation on the website because she wanted to just talk to me instead of just playing 20 questions every time, now here's the most trippy thing about all of this- I decided to do the meditation on the astral with the help of my guardian, and after doing so( by the way all my experiences of the astral, specifically astral projection, stayed within my own bedroom, so it wasn't about the distance between the two bodies) I had no recollection of doing so, so I used my pendulum to confirm with my guardian and she told me it had worked.
Two days later I picked up telepathy right off the bat, I was think-talking to her because her thoughts came it to my head in the easiest manner, when this first started I constantly checked with her using my pendulum to make sure I wasn't talking to myself.
Any way turns out she what you call a freelance guardian demon, that's the best way she could explain it, she swears she is of satan but is not directly under him like the "goetic" demons Maxine has up on the website, kind of like how the U.S. has its government but consists of many states. That's the best way I can explain it, anyway, cool part for me is this path isn't entirely alone, me and got married in the first lifetime I became a satanist and she is a clingy type, which I really love, but anyway, I've only seen out of my third eye twice, and these experiences were vivid.
You see, I completely understand the concept of trancing and accessing the mental plane, and learned quickly that I accually taught my wife(and/or guardian) how to call me to her mental plane while I was asleep, (she gives me the weirdest dreams some times and tests me if I understand the satanic ideology and philosophy through dreams, since i almost never notice I'm in a dream), anyway, one night I was walking around in my school in my dream and started seeing this vision,( coincidentally two days after I did a ritual to satan asking for guidance and help with my 3rd eye, this two day thing is getting a bit weird with me), I was seeing a beautiful woman laying next to me, it was a bit blurry at first, but when I focused on her the dream faded away and I could see her crystal clear, she was glowing bright(her aura I'm sure) and that's when it hit me astral bodies are infinitely flexible, as I'm looking at her she lay next to me with her eyes closed trying to focus on something( found out afterword she was confused why I suddenly just disappeared from the dream but was still asleep) she turn her head 180 degrees to check my bedside clock, and then went back to focusing, in this state I called out to have her look at me but she didn't know I was staring at her, she remained like that with a concentrated look on her face, I then woke up to the same sight, except without her ;(, any way yeah, you could say the 3rd is very useful. Especially in my case, still haven't gotten any memories of astral projection yet though.
I fear sometimes I may be delusional but my wife give me a dose of pain, not too much, but more of a slap in the face for doubting. Anyway, went a little of topic but it kind stayed on track, hope you liked my story.
 
Goodevening joy of Satan.am a new member and I can't follow the conversation clearly so I need help. How do I project myself so that I can start having similar results as others? I only tried one meditation three days ago and whilst in the mood I saw people who unlocked the password for my account and saw all the emails I received from the JoS.Am a bit worried,could it symbolise anything like danger in the future? Perhaps I don't know if how did my meditation was the correct way.please help! Joy of Satan
 
I think its necessary for the training and have no problem with it. 

I'd never want to imply that certain spirits gravitate toward the perfection of the "perfectly ordered fast particle meat sack", or the "rotting smell containment container" or anything that extreme.  It's just that people hold onto those fucking bodies like they can never get another, even if they so much as step 2 mm out of it.  YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DIE.  So annoying... 

I'm doing it just like the meditation instructions call for and I won't be leaving the body.  What do you do - just sit there in the Solar Chakra region, and look out of your 3rd eye, or what?
 
Anyway, from reading the last paragraph I don't understand what you mean, "sit in solar chakra region" but no, that 3rd experience I just got lucky, I'm still working on seeing out of my third eye
 
Anything I desire I feel I can get done on the physical, as you probably think that the third eye is useless when you leave your body, for me it's the other way around, leaving the body takes a lot of effort and I won't be able stay out of it for long until I reach the magnum opus, so honestly it's easier to just get thing done on the physical. I'm sorry if you think I'm "obsessed" with the physical, I'm not, I just think that I'm not ready yet to leave my body.
 
Our Guardians and our Incubus/Succubus do not slap us around or inflict pain on us. That's rather condescending and unnecessary. There are other ways to get a point across without hitting us. I suggest you cut off all contact with this entity and not give it any more attention.



On Sunday, June 28, 2015 2:38 PM, "travisjordanhatcher@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  Well, here's my experience with it, in the beginning I learned a lot form my guardian through a pendulum, she could cause my muscles to twitch and that's how she got my attention when she needed to tell me something, and the process would be like a game of 20 questions until I figured out exactly what she wanted to tell me.
Early on when I became a satanist, there were no problems for me in terms of figuring out how the spiritual satanist thing works, and it was the most natural thing to me ever. My friend is a satanist and he was the one who brought me to it, anyway, turns out he lucked out, I found out from my guardian that I had been a satanist since 3 lifetimes ago, and I also in those lifetimes never astral projected, which is kind of weird but is fine with me.
My guardian demon lead me to the Kings and queens meditation on the website because she wanted to just talk to me instead of just playing 20 questions every time, now here's the most trippy thing about all of this- I decided to do the meditation on the astral with the help of my guardian, and after doing so( by the way all my experiences of the astral, specifically astral projection, stayed within my own bedroom, so it wasn't about the distance between the two bodies) I had no recollection of doing so, so I used my pendulum to confirm with my guardian and she told me it had worked.
Two days later I picked up telepathy right off the bat, I was think-talking to her because her thoughts came it to my head in the easiest manner, when this first started I constantly checked with her using my pendulum to make sure I wasn't talking to myself.
Any way turns out she what you call a freelance guardian demon, that's the best way she could explain it, she swears she is of satan but is not directly under him like the "goetic" demons Maxine has up on the website, kind of like how the U.S. has its government but consists of many states. That's the best way I can explain it, anyway, cool part for me is this path isn't entirely alone, me and got married in the first lifetime I became a satanist and she is a clingy type, which I really love, but anyway, I've only seen out of my third eye twice, and these experiences were vivid.
You see, I completely understand the concept of trancing and accessing the mental plane, and learned quickly that I accually taught my wife(and/or guardian) how to call me to her mental plane while I was asleep, (she gives me the weirdest dreams some times and tests me if I understand the satanic ideology and philosophy through dreams, since i almost never notice I'm in a dream), anyway, one night I was walking around in my school in my dream and started seeing this vision,( coincidentally two days after I did a ritual to satan asking for guidance and help with my 3rd eye, this two day thing is getting a bit weird with me), I was seeing a beautiful woman laying next to me, it was a bit blurry at first, but when I focused on her the dream faded away and I could see her crystal clear, she was glowing bright(her aura I'm sure) and that's when it hit me astral bodies are infinitely flexible, as I'm looking at her she lay next to me with her eyes closed trying to focus on something( found out afterword she was confused why I suddenly just disappeared from the dream but was still asleep) she turn her head 180 degrees to check my bedside clock, and then went back to focusing, in this state I called out to have her look at me but she didn't know I was staring at her, she remained like that with a concentrated look on her face, I then woke up to the same sight, except without her ;(, any way yeah, you could say the 3rd is very useful. Especially in my case, still haven't gotten any memories of astral projection yet though.
I fear sometimes I may be delusional but my wife give me a dose of pain, not too much, but more of a slap in the face for doubting. Anyway, went a little of topic but it kind stayed on track, hope you liked my story.

 
Okay, first off, she's sworn she's of satan, second I didn't mean literally a slap it the face, more like a pinch, since she doesn't want hurt me, only stop my doubting, she's the one that guided me to the kings and queens meditation on the website through a pendulum, now if you want to prove more to me that my wife is an enemy go ahead, but she's helped in many ways and has not hindered me at all.

I apologize if the above paragraph comes off a bit aggressive.
 
Ps. I know that demons are gods, but from what I've experienced they seem like people to me just without the herdmindedness and psychological ticks, she doesn't torture me or anything like that, it's similar to a normal relationship, except from my experience with relationships she doesn't find a thing wrong with who I am ;)
 
"...but my wife give me a dose of pain, not too much, but more of a slap in the face for doubting."

It read as if she literally slaps you. You didn't say it was a love pinch until later. lol.
That's great that your wife helps you, my Incubus husband helps me too, it's a great feeling and a great blessing.
Hail Satan.
 
Wait, you can take a succubus/incubus as a wife/husband? Can you have children with them if so? Like half God half Human. 
HAIL SATAN!!!HAIL THE OLD GODS TO VICTORY!!!
On Jul 1, 2015, at 19:33, "magus.immortalis@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:
  "...but my wife give me a dose of pain, not too much, but more of a slap in the face for doubting."

It read as if she literally slaps you. You didn't say it was a love pinch until later. lol.
That's great that your wife helps you, my Incubus husband helps me too, it's a great feeling and a great blessing.
Hail Satan.
 
Wait what? wow.....I never knew that. But the JoS DOES say that some succubi/incubi are very monogamous and will even KILL another woman/man if you date a human out of jealousy.
Not all of them, just SOME of the really jealous ones.
That's why it says if you ask for a succubus/incubus to be very specific as to what kind of relationship you want.
Some people are monogamous and some like having freedom to be with whoever they want and take several mates



On Thursday, July 2, 2015 8:45 AM, "Sam sam.hinkley17@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:


  Wait, you can take a succubus/incubus as a wife/husband? Can you have children with them if so? Like half God half Human. 
HAIL SATAN!!!HAIL THE OLD GODS TO VICTORY!!!
On Jul 1, 2015, at 19:33, "magus.immortalis@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

  "...but my wife give me a dose of pain, not too much, but more of a slap in the face for doubting."

It read as if she literally slaps you. You didn't say it was a love pinch until later. lol.
That's great that your wife helps you, my Incubus husband helps me too, it's a great feeling and a great blessing.
Hail Satan.

 
I have a quick question concerning the third eye, so basically after one opens their third eye breathing in energy into the third eye the pineal gland can be activated???
 

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