13th Zodiac Sign

Here is what Lydia said in regarding the 13th zodiac sign in the old forums,

There are people who think that if Ophiuchus is integrated into our "zodiac sun sign wheel" that their natal charts will change. Your natal chart is a map of your soul, as unique to you as your fingerprint. Anyone who is adept as astrology and who knows themselves (these are 2 different things), knows that astrology (as taught by ToZ / HPS Pythia / Azazel and other Gods) is 666% accurate.

Most people just don't understand themselves, they don't know who they truly are. This is due to a lifetime of being conditioned to go against our nature. Boys strongly discouraged to never fight, use their polite words and never their fists. Girls are taught that they must behave like the boys and play softball, and not with dolls. Parents expect their children to be miniature replicas of them, and not have their own unique personalities develop. We are bombarded with everything telling us to be someone we are not. Express your individuality, but only if it agrees with the mainstream teachings!

So if your “Sun sign” is now in Ophiuchus, you are not going to magically become an Ophiuchus person. Your personality is not going to suddenly change. You are who you are, your natal chart ruler(s) and the sign(s) it is in is who you are. You are a blend of your Ascendant sign, and all the signs your planets are in, to one extent or another based on if they are your rulers or not, and if you have a conjunction or stellium or just a singleton in the sign.

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Ophiuchus is important, but guess what, there are 88 constellations. And only 12 of them are ones that our Sun and planets move through.

Ophiuchus is a constellation of stars. What Lydia is saying basically is that there are constellations that do not have a sign, and that is all fine. There are more then 12 constellations of stars. Tropical zodiac is based on the seasons not the constellations. Sidereal zodiac isn't based on the constellations either, since they also use the equal length 12 "signs" anyway. Basically both cut the sky in 12 equal parts and work with that. It's just the method of finding the first cut (start of Aries) that differs. The system we use is functional and gives accurate results when used properly. You can't just jam in additional signs. Also the degrees matter. So of course someone with placements in late Scorpio will not be exactly the same as someone with early degrees.

Thank you very much for very revealing insights and informations. Hope more people get to see them and learn from them too.

I'm not an expert in astrology, but I'm sure the 13th constellation is the one that unites all 12 constellations within themselves. .Ether that unites all 4 elements in the work.
The bearer of the snake who represents Father Zeus. Everything begins with the sun, but Venus is the key to everything. This is what I think by carefully analyzing the writings of HP Don. I think that union comes with Venus to form the 13th sign. The sun is Venus's esoteric governor. The star of the morning before the sunlight. And Venus governs the heart. Hence the heart is the key of the soul that is represented by Ankh. If I'm wrong someone correct me... Thank you... Bro and Sis...!!!

I'm not an expert in astrology, but I'm sure the 13th constellation is the one that unites all 12 constellations within themselves. .Ether that unites all 4 elements in the work.
The bearer of the snake who represents Father Zeus. Everything begins with the sun, but Venus is the key to everything. This is what I think by carefully analyzing the writings of HP Don. I think that union comes with Venus to form the 13th sign. The sun is Venus's esoteric governor. The star of the morning before the sunlight. And Venus governs the heart. Hence the heart is the key of the soul that is represented by Ankh. If I'm wrong someone correct me... Thank you... Bro and Sis...!!!

Venus rules the Throat Chakra, not the Heart...

I'm not an expert in astrology, but I'm sure the 13th constellation is the one that unites all 12 constellations within themselves. .Ether that unites all 4 elements in the work.
The bearer of the snake who represents Father Zeus. Everything begins with the sun, but Venus is the key to everything. This is what I think by carefully analyzing the writings of HP Don. I think that union comes with Venus to form the 13th sign. The sun is Venus's esoteric governor. The star of the morning before the sunlight. And Venus governs the heart. Hence the heart is the key of the soul that is represented by Ankh. If I'm wrong someone correct me... Thank you... Bro and Sis...!!!

The heart chakra is ruled by Mercury...

I'm not an expert in astrology, but I'm sure the 13th constellation is the one that unites all 12 constellations within themselves. .Ether that unites all 4 elements in the work.
The bearer of the snake who represents Father Zeus. Everything begins with the sun, but Venus is the key to everything. This is what I think by carefully analyzing the writings of HP Don. I think that union comes with Venus to form the 13th sign. The sun is Venus's esoteric governor. The star of the morning before the sunlight. And Venus governs the heart. Hence the heart is the key of the soul that is represented by Ankh. If I'm wrong someone correct me... Thank you... Bro and Sis...!!!

The heart chakra is ruled by Mercury...

Anche tu adesso... Il cuore è di Venere...

Venus rules the Throat Chakra, not the Heart...

The heart chakra is ruled by Mercury...

Well this is quite the revelation,
For the longest time i had known the throat-C to be ruled by Mercury, and the heart-C to be ruled by Venus.

I assume this because i looked at it from an astrological point of view, as the colors and such all matched up.

Anche tu adesso... Il cuore è di Venere...

I did look this up myself to be sure, and it would seem that Stormblood and Malpirgi are correct.

As the chakras page do say that Venus = throat, Mercury = heart.

There's still a discrepancy on AA however,
as it stills says that Mercury rules the throat, i assume this is why i believed it to be the other way around.
https://templeofzeus.org/PlanetMercury.php

But i think this comment from the old fourms cleared it up, unfortunately there's no working Wayback or google cache link, so i had to take a screen cap

Venus rules the Throat Chakra, not the Heart...

The heart chakra is ruled by Mercury...

Well this is quite the revelation,
For the longest time i had known the throat-C to be ruled by Mercury, and the heart-C to be ruled by Venus.

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I had the same revelation a while back. Not all the ToZ info has been updated. If you look at the pages for the Heart chakra and Venus chakra meditations, it clearly states that the Heart Chakra is ruled by Mercury and the Throat chakra is ruled by Venus.

The pages for the Planetary squares haven't been updated. It can be a small issue for new members, and is a question that does come up here and there...

a while ago Pythia (i think it was Pythia) posted on the old forum something about the elixir of life and she said that because many new age people concentrate on the heart chakra so much do not get the elixir of life but of death which produces the metallic taste in the mouth which comes from the mercury element of the heart chakra and she said if this ever happens then it gets dangerous... but the good taste should be fruity if one meditates good, but i think this is only for the people who are meditating for a while now and have experience, i dont think such things can happen to a newbie...but good that i remember ^^ so yeah, heart is mercury, venus is throat

Regarding the throat/heart Venus/Mercury debate... I'm starting to think that both rule both. Some experiments I've conducted make this theory plausible.

Thoughts?

Regarding the throat/heart Venus/Mercury debate... I'm starting to think that both rule both. Some experiments I've conducted make this theory plausible.

Thoughts?

I don't want to divulge any personal astrological information, but let's just say that considering my Mercury and Venus placements, and the way I express myself/communicate, they do seem to be intertwined. This could be that one usually speaks with emotion, or emotes through speech. Other than robots, of course ;)

May I ask what kind of experiments you conducted? I'm curious. I'm guessing it had to do with Wednesday and Friday, and trying out both possibilities...

You have to keep in mind that ToZ is a code to decode. The more you advance and the more knowledge Father Zeus gives us. ToZ is all ... start for beginners and for advanced infinity... Anything on ToZ is not by accident...I got involved in a Chakra drawing on ToZ and I wondered why the chakras were designed in that way a bit different. And then that design made me understand many things..

Regarding the throat/heart Venus/Mercury debate... I'm starting to think that both rule both. Some experiments I've conducted make this theory plausible.

Thoughts?

This was confirmed by HP Don...

Regarding the throat/heart Venus/Mercury debate... I'm starting to think that both rule both. Some experiments I've conducted make this theory plausible.

Thoughts?

Can you share your experiments i'm curious,

I'll tell you my part on the debate,
It's only now i realize that the 2 were switched and it makes sense, somewhat, from my astrological perspective.

Considering that i have a rather strong Mercurian influence, which maybe be even stronger than my chart ruler, well assuming since my chart ruler Mars is intercepted in Virgo(which means that it's ruled by Mercury?), and Mercury had also been a co-ruler prior to me discovering interceptions since it's in the 1st house, knowing this i'm inclined to believe that Mercury is possible the strongest planet, in my natal chart.

This did have an effect on my chakras as I've noticed, i never had a problem feeling my heart chakra and when empowered it would pain, a burning one at that, and from what I've read such pain would indicate that the chakra above, ie the throat chakra, has a blockage
i had always expected my throat chakra to be rather strong(due to Mercurian influence) but i found it odd that it had a blockage and my heart chakra was quite strong.

Besides that i do not think that both rule both, perhaps your experiments may elucidate,
although it may be true if you consider that there was a ticklish feeling in my throat, prior to any empowerment done to it, which seems contradictory to pain in my heart indicative of a blockage.

Regarding the throat/heart Venus/Mercury debate... I'm starting to think that both rule both. Some experiments I've conducted make this theory plausible.

Thoughts?

I want to add another thing: from what I'm noticing the Meru mountain (spine, Big Don teachings)
and Venus stick to each other. I think that here it is born the Cross with the four arms of the same length. I also think too that Ankh is starting to rise from here. The key to the soul.

May I ask what kind of experiments you conducted? I'm curious. I'm guessing it had to do with Wednesday and Friday, and trying out both possibilities...

Nope. something having to do with something during a retro Merc, which should not have affected my throat unless Merc partially rules throat.

Other Zevists have suggested the same thing. Keep in mind that parts of the soul are interconnected.

May I ask what kind of experiments you conducted? I'm curious. I'm guessing it had to do with Wednesday and Friday, and trying out both possibilities...

Nope. something having to do with something during a retro Merc, which should not have affected my throat unless Merc partially rules throat.

Other Zevism have suggested the same thing. Keep in mind that parts of the soul are interconnected.

Yes, I know. I realized after my post that really, all the chakras are intertwined...