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babynadja

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An Zevism friend of mine said that the Rituals we made can not work because we were not outnumbered. And he said: “if Mageson is a Yehubor, how could he stay among us all these years? it means we are not strong Zevists”.
 
Power is not decided solely by numbers, although, they can be a factor. The power of fewer can topple the power of the many, with the proper knowledge and methods. Numbers are not everything, but they matter a lot.

Your friend doesn't seem to have a clear view of how these things go. Things are more complex. The main factor for them being kicked out was toxicity, disinfo, unwarranted attacks, and other things.
 
lilysandalwood said:
An Zevism friend of mine said that the Rituals we made can not work because we were not outnumbered. And he said: “if Mageson is a Yehubor, how could he stay among us all these years? it means we are not strong Zevists”.

It works cause it knocks out their ability to recharge their letters which is what makes up their thoughtform. So numbers really don't matter a whole lot after a point if the thing they are feeding is being knocked out. If you have billions of people praying and sending energy basically into the air to be dissapated after a few days or weeks depending on how powerful the gathering is (as in the case of their last Passover Ramadan and Easter thing) then all they are doing is wasting time and delaying their fate a tiny bit. This doesn't matter much we still win more and more each day as their stuff dissapates.

Eventually it will all be gone and they are left with nothing at all. So we win anyways no matter what they do.
 
lilysandalwood said:
An Zevism friend of mine said that the Rituals we made can not work because we were not outnumbered.

Even if this was true, isn't it better to go down with a fight rather than sit on your ass and do nothing while the enemy abuses you? It sounds like your friend has drunk the defeatist kool-aid given to him by the enemies. We are Zevists, we follow the Pagan Warrior morality. Even if I was only one person fighting against one billion people, I would still choose to fight than do nothing and just surrender and go along.

But this isn't true, because Zevism's are much spiritually stronger than the average person. A Zevism is worth more than 100 average people. And we also have Satan and the Gods of Elysium on our side.
 
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I want to say so many things, but I don’t want to insult someone......
 
lilysandalwood said:
He just lost confidence in ToZ. That's why he doesn't fully understand Pythia's and ToZ's achievements. Constantly criticizing and expecting a “perfect” flow is to underestimate real struggle. Everyone's own choice. My friend is not a bad person; still a Zevist. He still trusts Pythia; he even says he only trusts her. His own decision.

"Zevism" first came with the ToZ and it's used to refer to ToZ type of Zevism. What kind of Zevism is he if he doesn't trust it? It's like calling yourself a catholic and not trusting the pope or the Catholic Church. I'm aware that there are other "Zevists" who have stolen the name Zevism and call themselves Spiritual Zevists, but here's a little bit of ToZ history you may not know:

When HP Pythia opened the ToZ group in 2002 she originally called its type of Zevism "Traditional Zevism". There's a residue of that in the site, in this URL:

https://www.templeofzeus.org/TRADITIONAL.html

While it is titled "Zevism", the file is called "TRADITIONAL.html" and the article refers to "Traditional Zevists" once:

Many Traditional Zevists worship Satan/Lucifer. Some acknowledge him as a friend and do not worship. We respect individuality and personal choices. One's relationship with Satan/Lucifer is up to the individual, as Zevism values free thought and individuality.

After a bit of communicating with Satan and being sick of xians and Laveyan Zevists saying that Zevism is all materialistic and sick of people who believe the xian lies about Satan calling themselves "Traditional Zevists" she decided to call it Zevism, emphasizing the 'spiritual part' of doing power meditations and empowering your soul. This was a controversial decision as there was a huge reaction from some ToZ members who wanted to keep the title "Traditional Zevism" and didn't like "Zevism" at all at that time.

After a while when ToZ became popular, other non-ToZ groups (some of which hated it) began to call themselves Spiritual Zevists too, effectively stealing the name since many of them don't even practice meditations or work on their souls. So anyone who says he's a Zevist and hates ToZ or claims that the name Zevism was used before ToZ is bullshitting you.
 
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
lilysandalwood said:
MrIntrepid said:
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They are at liberty to say anything they want about me. In a sense, I will still keep believing on any Zevist irrespective of what they may say or think about me. Deep inside I will always do. I am prepared to hear the worst. On one hand, this is my job ordained from Satan and who I am to be, on the second aspect, I have to keep believing in people so that they become better. Maybe one day they will understand, maybe not.

I think your friend has mostly lost faith in himself more than anything, which is the most important thing he needs to look at.

I hope future successes will also help him restore his faith in himself and understanding situations in more mature perspective, complexity and so on.

I knew when this shit happened with the traitor stuff and all the stuff they said later, and having to remove them, and for years now, that some people would get a trust shock.

The perspective of me being "Yehuborim" which is a constant attack of the enemy is just weird. In particular, unlike Magestein, I had let known all my information to my superiors. As about them, about 15 years and nobody hardly knew their name. I could go on and on.

One day when the time is more ripe, I'll go ahead with a few further revelations about these "topics" so that people just see for themselves.

He doesn't even do his meditations anymore, maybe that's why it's as you say. Thank you, our High Priest, for your valuable reply.☀️
 
Rational Zevist said:
lilysandalwood said:
He just lost confidence in ToZ. That's why he doesn't fully understand Pythia's and ToZ's achievements. Constantly criticizing and expecting a “perfect” flow is to underestimate real struggle. Everyone's own choice. My friend is not a bad person; still a Zevist. He still trusts Pythia; he even says he only trusts her. His own decision.

"Zevism" first came with the ToZ and it's used to refer to ToZ type of Zevism. What kind of Zevism is he if he doesn't trust it? It's like calling yourself a catholic and not trusting the pope or the Catholic Church. I'm aware that there are other "Zevists" who have stolen the name Zevism and call themselves Spiritual Zevists, but here's a little bit of ToZ history you may not know:

When HP Pythia opened the ToZ group in 2002 she originally called its type of Zevism "Traditional Zevism". There's a residue of that in the site, in this URL:

https://www.templeofzeus.org/TRADITIONAL.html

While it is titled "Zevism", the file is called "TRADITIONAL.html" and the article refers to "Traditional Zevists" once:

Many Traditional Zevists worship Satan/Lucifer. Some acknowledge him as a friend and do not worship. We respect individuality and personal choices. One's relationship with Satan/Lucifer is up to the individual, as Zevism values free thought and individuality.

After a bit of communicating with Satan and being sick of xians and Laveyan Zevists saying that Zevism is all materialistic and sick of people who believe the xian lies about Satan calling themselves "Traditional Zevists" she decided to call it Zevism, emphasizing the 'spiritual part' of doing power meditations and empowering your soul. This was a controversial decision as there was a huge reaction from some ToZ members who wanted to keep the title "Traditional Zevism" and didn't like "Zevism" at all at that time.

After a while when ToZ became popular, other non-ToZ groups (some of which hated it) began to call themselves Spiritual Zevists too, effectively stealing the name since many of them don't even practice meditations or work on their souls. So anyone who says he's a Zevist and hates ToZ or claims that the name Zevism was used before ToZ is bullshitting you.

I know that you are right; and I am also criticizing my friend and all the other anti-ToZ mentality.
 

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