people who are neurodivergent

[andrasxflame]

Good morning fellow Zevists,

There are many forms of neurodivergence: As a child, I struggled with dysgraphia, as well as dyslexia, dyscalculia, and poor concentration.
With the right interventions, I was able to fully fix my dysgraphia, and now I live with mild dyslexia and dyscalculia, but obviously these are things that are part of who we are, and while we can work on them, we can’t eliminate them.
Now that I’m an adult, what poses a challenge in my spiritual practice is my limited ability to concentrate for long periods and my difficulty with visualization.
I’m continuing on my path (especially with the 40-day meditation program), and there are improvements, even though it takes me much longer than other people. However, I admit that some days are harder than others.
I wanted to ask if there are other people here like me and if they or others, have any useful advice for neurodivergent people

Thank you so much

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

I wouldn't say I'm neurodivergent in any way, but I do wonder how much of these mental conditions are just imbalances, blockages and dross in the upper chakras related to the brain. Due to neroplasticity, is it perhaps possible to cure neurodivergent conditions through meditation, especially yoga and cleaning. The brain could perhaps be wired out of such conditions.

Autism for example seems to be "hypermasculine" in some way, and not in a good way. Being hyper literal, always direct and only able to see structures rather than people may hint at issues relating to the heart and throat chakras, underdeveloped/atrophied due to lack of use or spiritual injury.

I don't think this has been explored very much but if any nerodivergent people who've been Zevists and practiced properly for a few years could report any changes done to them, it'd be interesting.

 

[SparkingPowerUP]

The inhalation of energy is done like the fundation meditation from begginer meditation section from ToZ.

 

[Kuka]

Hi, i'm neurodivergent too with similar conditions but diagnosed very very late, plus i had to face different psychologist, who weren't paying enough attention ( i did multiple same cognvitive tests (WISC and WAIS ones which isn't normal but to give a little detail of the general level of incompetence)

If you have trouble concentrating: i'd say go for Dot meditation, use the tool by Brother Laurentum, also do lots of visual training.

⊙ Dot Meditation Tool ⊙

DOT MEDITATION TOOL ( https://ramsesjson.github.io/Dot-Practice/ ) "An age of perpetual distraction, it serves as a powerful anchor, systematically simplifying focus to a single point and then expanding it through increasingly complex geometric forms. This meditation directly confronts the...

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Also if you want, you can record yourself or use Audacity as i wrote here for scaffolding. consider now i don't use that anymore and i can concentrate and visualize slightly better because i did almost 37/40 day schedule of Gods ritual who trained me to associate to a word a imagine or a scene.

This is a short post wrote by me. i had transposed the idea to this since i started to use recently visual maps and sheets, so hence this tutorial was born.

Keeping Count — A Short Guide to Using Audio Recording as a Practice Aid

This may be useful for beginners, or for anyone who struggles with concentration during this kind of working. I originally wrote this on the Italian forum, but I waited a few weeks before reposting it here because I wanted to see whether it would actually help me and to better understand how my...

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[coral__]

Good morning fellow Zevists,

There are many forms of neurodivergence: As a child, I struggled with dysgraphia, as well as dyslexia, dyscalculia, and poor concentration.
With the right interventions, I was able to fully fix my dysgraphia, and now I live with mild dyslexia and dyscalculia, but obviously these are things that are part of who we are, and while we can work on them, we can’t eliminate them.
Now that I’m an adult, what poses a challenge in my spiritual practice is my limited ability to concentrate for long periods and my difficulty with visualization.
I’m continuing on my path (especially with the 40-day meditation program), and there are improvements, even though it takes me much longer than other people. However, I admit that some days are harder than others.
I wanted to ask if there are other people here like me and if they or others, have any useful advice for neurodivergent people

Thank you so much

Hello! I am neurodivergent too, ASD.

What really matters to me is this: neurodivergence doesn't define you. It doesn't define anyone, imagine a Zevist! Don't identify with labels as you have the power to change and to decide for yourself.
This lable can help you navigate the material world but it has very little meaning in front of the Gods and Their Sacred Path.
You are a complete, valuable person no matter what condition or disability you have. You are worthy, you deserve a fulfilling life too and you should never feel inferior to others as you have your own unique talents and qualities.
Especially we Zevists, we have all the tools to fully thrive in our life.

It's ok if it takes more time for you. Your path is unique and it's pointless to compare it to other people. Don't worry too much about how long it takes for you.

In my experience, I think that much of our neurodivergence it's due to astrological placements, especially involving Mercury, Sun and Moon.
Try to look at your placements involving these plantest in your chart. (DON'T SHARE THEM HERE!)
Take some times to analyze them, how they might affect your chakras, choose the one that feels the most urgent/important for you and then start to set a plan to change it!

It is not true that we cannot change ourselves, as HPS Lydia Coventina said.
Don't be afraid of giving yourself some hope.
I know it might be hard but you proved yourself this very thing: you changed something in you.
You have all the powers within you.
From neurodivergent to neurodivergent: I fully believe in you. You can do this.

 

[Black Magic]

Good morning fellow Zevists,

There are many forms of neurodivergence: As a child, I struggled with dysgraphia, as well as dyslexia, dyscalculia, and poor concentration.
With the right interventions, I was able to fully fix my dysgraphia, and now I live with mild dyslexia and dyscalculia, but obviously these are things that are part of who we are, and while we can work on them, we can’t eliminate them.
Now that I’m an adult, what poses a challenge in my spiritual practice is my limited ability to concentrate for long periods and my difficulty with visualization.
I’m continuing on my path (especially with the 40-day meditation program), and there are improvements, even though it takes me much longer than other people. However, I admit that some days are harder than others.
I wanted to ask if there are other people here like me and if they or others, have any useful advice for neurodivergent people

Thank you so much

I have suffered from dyslexia since childhood, not much people in post-Soviet Union knew about that phenomena, the teachers thought that I was just an imbecile like the rest of my classmates. I was left without an official diagnosis, and I had to work hard to learn how to read and write correctly myself, although even now I make a lot of mistakes in the text, especially if I write in English. This condition has caused me a lot of suffering in the past, and because of my negative experiences at school, I lost motivation to study in general, and it took me more than one year to regain this motivation back. My typical day at school was more like being in a concentration camp, it felt much like that to me. The most boring, dreary, and traumatic 9 years of life. Damn this system and damn this dyslexia, there's nothing good about it for sure. I was told that dyslexia is a disease of creative people, but when I studied to become a designer, I realized that they have their own standards where my symbolic creativity simply does not fit, because of that I burned out and lost my passion for design including

 

[andrasxflame]

Hi, i'm neurodivergent too with similar conditions but diagnosed very very late, plus i had to face different psychologist, who weren't paying enough attention ( i did multiple same cognvitive tests (WISC and WAIS ones which isn't normal but to give a little detail of the general level of incompetence)

If you have trouble concentrating: i'd say go for Dot meditation, use the tool by Brother Laurentum, also do lots of visual training.

⊙ Dot Meditation Tool ⊙

DOT MEDITATION TOOL ( https://ramsesjson.github.io/Dot-Practice/ ) "An age of perpetual distraction, it serves as a powerful anchor, systematically simplifying focus to a single point and then expanding it through increasingly complex geometric forms. This meditation directly confronts the...

ancient-forums.com

Also if you want, you can record yourself or use Audacity as i wrote here for scaffolding. consider now i don't use that anymore and i can concentrate and visualize slightly better because i did almost 37/40 day schedule of Gods ritual who trained me to associate to a word a imagine or a scene.

This is a short post wrote by me. i had transposed the idea to this since i started to use recently visual maps and sheets, so hence this tutorial was born.

Keeping Count — A Short Guide to Using Audio Recording as a Practice Aid

This may be useful for beginners, or for anyone who struggles with concentration during this kind of working. I originally wrote this on the Italian forum, but I waited a few weeks before reposting it here because I wanted to see whether it would actually help me and to better understand how my...

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Hi, thank you so much for the suggestions and posts you shared with me!!!
I’m so sorry to hear about your experience and I know exactly how you feel...
Even though I was diagnosed when I was little, I’ve had to deal with a lot of incompetent people, and I was written off as "a lost cause" right from the start.
Unfortunately, there’s still a lot of prejudice and ignorance surrounding this issue.

Sending you a hug

 

[andrasxflame]

Hello! I am neurodivergent too, ASD.

What really matters to me is this: neurodivergence doesn't define you. It doesn't define anyone, imagine a Zevist! Don't identify with labels as you have the power to change and to decide for yourself.
This lable can help you navigate the material world but it has very little meaning in front of the Gods and Their Sacred Path.
You are a complete, valuable person no matter what condition or disability you have. You are worthy, you deserve a fulfilling life too and you should never feel inferior to others as you have your own unique talents and qualities.
Especially we Zevists, we have all the tools to fully thrive in our life.

It's ok if it takes more time for you. Your path is unique and it's pointless to compare it to other people. Don't worry too much about how long it takes for you.

In my experience, I think that much of our neurodivergence it's due to astrological placements, especially involving Mercury, Sun and Moon.
Try to look at your placements involving these plantest in your chart. (DON'T SHARE THEM HERE!)
Take some times to analyze them, how they might affect your chakras, choose the one that feels the most urgent/important for you and then start to set a plan to change it!

It is not true that we cannot change ourselves, as HPS Lydia Coventina said.
Don't be afraid of giving yourself some hope.
I know it might be hard but you proved yourself this very thing: you changed something in you.
You have all the powers within you.
From neurodivergent to neurodivergent: I fully believe in you. You can do this.

Thank you so much for this wonderful message.
I mean this sincerely: you moved me to tears and touched me deeply in a positive way.
I think it’s true that we neurodivergent people often have to fight harder to achieve our goals, but it’s also true that when we succeed, the satisfaction is multiplied.
Thank you so much again for the strength you’ve given me and for believing so much in me.
All of this is of course reciprocal: we matter, the gods appreciate us, and above all we are capable of achieving everything we set our minds to.

Sending you a big hug

 

[andrasxflame]

I have suffered from dyslexia since childhood, not much people in post-Soviet Union knew about that phenomena, the teachers thought that I was just an imbecile like the rest of my classmates. I was left without an official diagnosis, and I had to work hard to learn how to read and write correctly myself, although even now I make a lot of mistakes in the text, especially if I write in English. This condition has caused me a lot of suffering in the past, and because of my negative experiences at school, I lost motivation to study in general, and it took me more than one year to regain this motivation back. My typical day at school was more like being in a concentration camp, it felt much like that to me. The most boring, dreary, and traumatic 9 years of life. Damn this system and damn this dyslexia, there's nothing good about it for sure. I was told that dyslexia is a disease of creative people, but when I studied to become a designer, I realized that they have their own standards where my symbolic creativity simply does not fit, because of that I burned out and lost my passion for design including

Hi!
I don't know how old you are now, but I'm telling you this from personal experience: don't give up and it's never too late!
They wanted to hold me back in elementary school (but they let me pass in the end), and I was held back twice in high school... neither my teachers nor my classmates ever went easy on me.
No one believed in me... and you know what I did? I kept going and graduated twice! Now I’m 29, and a few months ago I earned my second degree against everyone’s expectations.
Was it hard? Yes. Did it take me longer than others? Definitely...
But seeing the negative outcomes of certain people who were thought to be better than me, I realized that often nothing is as it seems, and above all, that your worth isn’t measured by how long it takes you to do something.
I think you lost your interests because the people around you were bringing you down... It happened to me too, but now that you don’t have those toxic people around you, this is your chance to start over with what you love, or maybe try something new.
You’re right, this system sucks for people like us, but we have to be strong and fight it as best we can.

Sending you a hug

 

[Aquarius]

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Most beautiful advice.

Another thing to add, neurodivergence isn't necessarily a negative thing. Most people are Andrapoda and are total conformists, when somebody comes along and doesn't act like them they will call him "autistic" or "strange".

Also beware of false labels — ADHD is diagnosed in anybody who can't sit still for 8 hours a day in a white-light classroom. Psychiatrists profit from this. Behaviors now labeled ADHD were once handled with discipline alone, but now with kids and teenagers having access to doom-scroll-enabling devices with high-speed internet, It would be surprising to find a teenager today whose attention hasn't been shaped or damaged by these devices. Everybody and their mother has ADHD these days.

 

[SoulSails]

Hello! I am neurodivergent too, ASD.

What really matters to me is this: neurodivergence doesn't define you. It doesn't define anyone, imagine a Zevist! Don't identify with labels as you have the power to change and to decide for yourself.
This lable can help you navigate the material world but it has very little meaning in front of the Gods and Their Sacred Path.
You are a complete, valuable person no matter what condition or disability you have. You are worthy, you deserve a fulfilling life too and you should never feel inferior to others as you have your own unique talents and qualities.
Especially we Zevists, we have all the tools to fully thrive in our life.

It's ok if it takes more time for you. Your path is unique and it's pointless to compare it to other people. Don't worry too much about how long it takes for you.

In my experience, I think that much of our neurodivergence it's due to astrological placements, especially involving Mercury, Sun and Moon.
Try to look at your placements involving these plantest in your chart. (DON'T SHARE THEM HERE!)
Take some times to analyze them, how they might affect your chakras, choose the one that feels the most urgent/important for you and then start to set a plan to change it!

It is not true that we cannot change ourselves, as HPS Lydia Coventina said.
Don't be afraid of giving yourself some hope.
I know it might be hard but you proved yourself this very thing: you changed something in you.
You have all the powers within you.
From neurodivergent to neurodivergent: I fully believe in you. You can do this.

Huge thank you for writing this. As someone with ASD myself, this was very wonderful to read.

 

[Black Magic]

Hi!
I don't know how old you are now, but I'm telling you this from personal experience: don't give up and it's never too late!
They wanted to hold me back in elementary school (but they let me pass in the end), and I was held back twice in high school... neither my teachers nor my classmates ever went easy on me.
No one believed in me... and you know what I did? I kept going and graduated twice! Now I’m 29, and a few months ago I earned my second degree against everyone’s expectations.
Was it hard? Yes. Did it take me longer than others? Definitely...
But seeing the negative outcomes of certain people who were thought to be better than me, I realized that often nothing is as it seems, and above all, that your worth isn’t measured by how long it takes you to do something.
I think you lost your interests because the people around you were bringing you down... It happened to me too, but now that you don’t have those toxic people around you, this is your chance to start over with what you love, or maybe try something new.
You’re right, this system sucks for people like us, but we have to be strong and fight it as best we can.

Sending you a hug

Since then, I've grown up a long time ago, plus the fact that dyslexia smooths out with age, if in childhood or younghood it's a nightmare, then when you get older, the brain begins to somehow adapt to a world that is not created for us. I also want to emphasize that dyslexia may have some definite advantages, this post inspired me to look at this problem with a fresh look and I found that most brilliant and famous people also suffered from this problem as well. And, thank u for a warm words

 

[coral__]

Thank you so much for this wonderful message.
I mean this sincerely: you moved me to tears and touched me deeply in a positive way.
I think it’s true that we neurodivergent people often have to fight harder to achieve our goals, but it’s also true that when we succeed, the satisfaction is multiplied.
Thank you so much again for the strength you’ve given me and for believing so much in me.
All of this is of course reciprocal: we matter, the gods appreciate us, and above all we are capable of achieving everything we set our minds to.

Sending you a big hug

Great to hear brother.
I wish the best on your journey and remember that you will always find help here!

Stand proud!

 

[coral__]

Most beautiful advice.

Another thing to add, neurodivergence isn't necessarily a negative thing. Most people are Andrapoda and are total conformists, when somebody comes along and doesn't act like them they will call him "autistic" or "strange".

Also beware of false labels — ADHD is diagnosed in anybody who can't sit still for 8 hours a day in a white-light classroom. Psychiatrists profit from this. Behaviors now labeled ADHD were once handled with discipline alone, but now with kids and teenagers having access to doom-scroll-enabling devices with high-speed internet, It would be surprising to find a teenager today whose attention hasn't been shaped or damaged by these devices. Everybody and their mother has ADHD these days.

True. Unfortunately, I do think that today every thing is labeled as a disability.

While I think it's important to help those who truly have one, most of the people just sit down and use that diagnosis as an excuse or to justify their behavior...
As someone who is studying in education and works with kids is disheartening to see so many perfectly healthy children being ruined by the damn phones and their parents who just don't do nothing about it and then they complain that their kid is undisciplined.
So many young souls are getting their brain fried

 

[Aquarius]

True. Unfortunately, I do think that today every thing is labeled as a disability.

While I think it's important to help those who truly have one, most of the people just sit down and use that diagnosis as an excuse or to justify their behavior...
As someone who is studying in education and works with kids is disheartening to see so many perfectly healthy children being ruined by the damn phones and their parents who just don't do nothing about it and then they complain that their kid is undisciplined.
So many young souls are getting their brain fried

When I was a teenager in high school, I was diagnosed with dyslexia.

So I was basically treated different and with different exam questions ecc.
It was so embarassing to me, I just always asked the normal exams or didn't use any help.

Being addicted to a phone doesn't mean ADHD.

 

[Black Magic]

When I was a teenager in high school, I was diagnosed with dyslexia.

So I was basically treated different and with different exam questions ecc.
It was so embarassing to me, I just always asked the normal exams or didn't use any help.

Being addicted to a phone doesn't mean ADHD.

Same story brother, I remember you wrote an article about wealth, it would be interesting if you compared neurodivergence with the ability to make money, if of course you have anything to say on the subject. After all, people like us have been told since childhood that we’re broken and incapable of anything

 

[Aquarius]

Same story brother, I remember you wrote an article about wealth, it would be interesting if you compared neurodivergence with the ability to make money, if of course you have anything to say on the subject. After all, people like us have been told since childhood that we’re broken and incapable of anything

Neurodivergence has nothing to do with wealth. It's not a special category of people. More often than not, these people actually suffer much more financially because they don't learn to function in society.

 

[Black Magic]

Neurodivergence has nothing to do with wealth. It's not a special category of people. More often than not, these people actually suffer much more financially because they don't learn to function in society.

that's the point, because society it's also the key to be rich, isn't it?

 

[Aquarius]

that's the point, because society it's also the key to be rich, isn't it?

Yes, you do not get rich without being able to give to it, one way or another.