What happened to the old rtrs?

[RockSeed13]

I can't seem to find them again. Does anyone here have a link or 2?

 

[Heimdall]

I don't think it will be allowed.
I tried to upload a link here, but it was rejected.

I think now with "Yehubor" and it's new terms of reference recently revealed by HP HC, we are moving into a new era of enlightened understanding. This doesn't allow for the old rhetoric and labelling of "antisemitic", which ToZ is now leaving behind. The RTR's are not necessary anymore. Rituals now replace these.

 

[Khem Nefermed]

There will be new Rituals that relate to Yehubor at the core, the specific Torah curses have been fully lifted a while ago.

 

[Epiphany]

The RTRs have long been concluded, for over a year, the work of reversing the curses is done. Now we are purifying and building a better future with blessings, spiritual advancement, connecting with the Gods and manifesting their will on Earth.

Please read the clergy's posts here in this announcement by HPS Lydia, and I will quote HPHC's post as well.

The RTR Schedule is Concluded Early

I was assigned a task from the Gods. I thought it would take 9 days, but because of everyone’s efforts, we have succeeded in half the time. Every single one of you who participated in this schedule, your efforts are deeply appreciated. The schedule is now done, so take the rest of the time off...

ancient-forums.com

The progress of these is not reliant to spiritual reality or substance, it's because of that these programs exist on the material realm.

The concept of victory in this case is not related to merely the enemy not existing (they exist and they will, until that changes).

The original topics relates and underlying spiritual current, not the end of it.

Victory in these cases, has to manifest and goes in stages. We are not done yet. But we will be when people actually bond to the Gods and put themselves in the level of power to actually stop these things, including materially, in the external world.



Of course, and now for ourselves, since there are hardly any. Now we should keep it that way [we will of course do RTR's every so often] but the primary focus is that after the clarity, strength and union with the Gods should expand forward. That's phase two of solving these issues.



I have been here for 16 years, and I know how it is when Yehuborim have spiritual power or when they do not. When you literally hardly have 1% of this power existing now, versus it existing in the past, yes, we know it's gone.

The FRTR will be used in pivotal times during the year [Yehuborim holidays etc] to keep them repressed and so they don't come up again and we continue forward. But one should not spend all their existence trying to constantly destroy something that isn't there. No the Yehuborim curses can no longer impede any of you seriously.

The only thing that impedes anyone for the most part now, is lack of more serious connection to the Gods and elevation [ie, connection to the Gods - which would also render automatically any Yehuborim gimmick against you worthless]. Any influence they still have on the general realm of life, has been reduced and mostly broken and is just kept around via material means [which are the results of things they have done before].

Only through the above there is going to be actual win in the Material Realm, not just by undoing every little shit the Yehuborim create. The larger things have to be built, not constantly all of you going with hammers to break the enemy, but using the hammers to build our own land. Which will eventually eat up everything from the enemy.

What HPS Maxine wants and wanted is for us to move forward and to win against the enemy, but also build and confound ourselves on the Gods, which she resurfaced from the Yehuborim context to bring them back up. We would not always remain on the phase of running for our lives every time 10 Rabbis did a spell or something. These times are gone, we have much more power now than to consistently care and we earned this development exactly because we followed what she indicated that should be done.

 

[ManofZeus]

I can't seem to find them again. Does anyone here have a link or 2?

Oh, "ai kahnt sim to find Thelm agaien". Really! Let the new changes happen. Didn't it occur to your since you can't find it that it's not needed. .
This is Mercury Retrograde and the clergy know exactly what they're doing. Accept the upgrade.

 

[ManofZeus]

I don't think it will be allowed.
I tried to upload a link here, but it was rejected.

I think now with "Yehubor" and it's new terms of reference recently revealed by HP HC, we are moving into a new era of enlightened understanding. This doesn't allow for the old rhetoric and labelling of "antisemitic", which ToZ is now leaving behind. The RTR's are not necessary anymore. Rituals now replace these.

For the record, we were never antisemitic. We're about truth and evolution and our clergy leads us well into new eras.

 

[Heimdall]

I admit I'm new here and on the learning curve, and I will never delude myself or bullshit others.

 

[ManofZeus]

I admit I'm new here and on the learning curve, and I will never delude myself or bullshit others.

Alright. Glad you got the clarity of it

 

[Heimdall]

Alright. Glad you got the clarity of it

Lol, I was making an indirect reference to you
Where do you get off judging and preaching to me? Are you a SG or Clergy?
If you got honest with yourself and looked back at the history of the Yahoo e-groups, JoS and right up into the transition you would see there are hundreds of anti-Semitic posts.
But that's OK, ToZ is evolving, HOHC is evolving, we are all evolving.
Just don't act so hypocritical or delusional about it, by trying to sweep it under the carpet and pretend it never happened.
Grow up and join the rest of us adults.

 

[ManofZeus]

Lol, I was making an indirect reference to you
Where do you get off judging and preaching to me? Are you a SG or Clergy?
If you got honest with yourself and looked back at the history of the Yahoo e-groups, JoS and right up into the transition you would see there are hundreds of anti-Semitic posts.
But that's OK, ToZ is evolving, HOHC is evolving, we are all evolving.
Just don't act so hypocritical or delusional about it, by trying to sweep it under the carpet and pretend it never happened.
Grow up and join the rest of us adults.

Lol, I'm an old member and I'm still a kid. Seems I understand these things more than you cos you're "a new member". And growing is what I do.
I have given you the clarity of it. Take it, but your opinion is yours, new member.

 

[Tethys333]

The RtRs aren't what we need right now. Read what's been posted in the various reply threads. We're evolving, and a lot of things are going to change here.
There's no need to attack anyone or get into a quarrel of any kind.
I think it’s time to move beyond “anti-Semitism” and all that stuff. We have a more important enemy to fight, and they are no longer Yehuborim as such.
JoS no longer exists, and it’s time to move forward in a mature way.

It’s still right to listen to all points of view and, if necessary, correct them if they’re not quite right, but I don’t think there’s any need for arrogance.


P.S. I’m not attacking anyone; it’s just a suggestion given the responses to the thread.

May the Gods bless you all!