Two Issues on Perversion and Suicide.

[WishtoTimeTravel]

Hello my Satanists (or Zevists),

Regarding perversion how far can perversion go before it goes to an immoral breaking of Satanic ethics. Obviously beastiality, incest and Pedophilia are all sick and out of bounds completely. How can one justify this to those who claim that we lean to this which is a complete lie.

Secondly, on the suicide question is it possible in a level of secrecy to worship death. The suicide question is to be honest well beyond human solving and one cannot stop someone who actively wants to commit sui. Would a future worship of death ceremony for those be available based on ethics of age etc, as a celebration if they want to leave or is this wrong?

Peace.

 

[Recycler1337]

What's listed in JoS/ToZ as unacceptable sexual practices is non-negotiable; it's absolutely harmful, and racial miscegenation can be added to that list.Everything else—depending on society—may be considered perverted and unacceptable. What's acceptable and desirable for one person may be completely taboo for another. There are thousands of different things—and there's no place to discuss them here. It's a personal choice, agreed upon with a partner, and of one's own free will.Regarding death—no, no one will praise it. Suicide may be justified in extreme cases; in other cases, you'll be brought back with the same problems in the next life.

 

[Yurei]

I'm honestly surprised race mixing and interracial sex aren't listed as violations of sexual ethics. Maybe cases are judged on a cases by case basis?

 

[hailourtruegod]

I'm honestly surprised race mixing and interracial sex aren't listed as violations of sexual ethics. Maybe cases are judged on a cases by case basis?

It isn't promoted for obvious scientific reasons but we aren't going to start calling every family thats mixed "sinners" and condemning them.

We can all easily imagine and call out the degenerate mindset of people who just want to sleep around because of brainwashing that race doesn't exist or self-hate brainwashing.

This isnt the case for every person especially those above the ghetto or in other words, degenerate, mindsets.

There are successful educated men out there who are on the side of logic rationality who failed to see the problems of race mixing not because of degenerate mindsets but because of how hard it was drummed into them we are equals in regards to the unique attributes of each race.

Xianity has a big fault in this as their scripture says they are all the same under their false god when we know this is an unfair manner to view each single person. Not just thru the topic of race but soul and mindset level of the individual within each race.

We want for people to finally know the facts that were hidden from them about the harmful affects of race mixing.

No one serious would ever recommend for a father or mother to leave their family because of this mistake. There are responsibilities one must take on if they're already deep into their situation.

The point is for people to start acting rational in their choices even if they have made mistakes in the past that affect the present AND future.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Now if I'm allowed to be a little cras, I have seen a few times people said the stupid following words, that those who have made the mistake of race mixing are either on par with rapist and pedos. Once I read from someone else that it's worse...

This is just plain stupidity and makes us look like radical idiots as a group if they are promoting this as Zevists.

We know there are harmful effects to the soul for those who race mix but in no way is it as extreme as rape or pedophilia. The latter are things that can take decades for a victim to fix even with Our Meditations.

 

[WishtoTimeTravel]

Ok people the perversion answers are acceptable. But surely Sui can be normalised in a non athiestic nihilism way but rather Satanic?

 

[WishtoTimeTravel]

No I do not want to commit Sui but after observation realise it is a normal thing and is suppressed by literally all humans worldwide. Thereby, a non atheistic approach (Satanic) is regarded in dealing with it with not the usual (life will be better nonsense) as for some humans this is not the case or they simply refuse to want to live on this planet.

 

[Impetigo]

Hello my Satanists (or Zevists),

Regarding perversion how far can perversion go before it goes to an immoral breaking of Satanic ethics. Obviously beastiality, incest and Pedophilia are all sick and out of bounds completely. How can one justify this to those who claim that we lean to this which is a complete lie.

Secondly, on the suicide question is it possible in a level of secrecy to worship death. The suicide question is to be honest well beyond human solving and one cannot stop someone who actively wants to commit sui. Would a future worship of death ceremony for those be available based on ethics of age etc, as a celebration if they want to leave or is this wrong?

Peace.

Sexual perversion will come down to an opinion. I've dealt with it myself unfortunately, was addicted to porn for years before I was able to consciously see that there was another option - to love another person and channel my sexual forces there, instead of worshipping dead effigys. Lust comes from one side of the nervous system (the fight or flight) and love comes from the parasympathetic side. When I realized that most of my "perversions" were coming from past trauma I was trying to relive and that it was a harmful energy, and that the enemy wanted me to live this way, it gave me more power to overcome them. However, as many of us know around here, spiritual advancement happens in cycles.. and you can regress. Things can re corrupt you, for instance.

In the case of perversions or lust that comes from past trauma, the energy is destructive and similar to the depression/suicide energy where you are kind of "letting go" and the submission/release brings you peace.. you stop fighting and let go of all the struggles and it feels like a weight has left you and so it feels good.. Obviously high levels of depression are evil - they are literally anti-life.. you are meant to move forward, not to "tap out." It's, in my opinion, always an irrational choice. But so much of what we accept as truth is actually "accepted truth" (opinion) and not absolute truth.. there are many different perspectives and opinions and unfortunately this can create some chaos for us and confusion because the mind is made up of hundreds of competing agents which "balance" out into our personality/consciousness.

When it comes to sexual practices (besides the ones you listed like pedophilia which we all side against), perversion is something you have to make up your own guidelines for because whether it's OK or not is only an opinion. We cannot be aware of everything at one given time (not yet anyway) and so your opinion will depend on what information you can capacitate within your awareness at a specific time.. different information coming from outside of your sphere of awareness has the potential to change your opinion.. basically, stuff that you weren't aware of at that time or which is "new" information to you. So it is good to always try to be as aware as possible.. don't slack when it comes to that, if your first priority is to make a good decision.

To put it simply, I think that you can engage in most any perversion that you want.. but if you start acting depraved or like an animal you should at least be aware of it and be honest with yourself that you may be moving yourself (albeit possibly very slightly) towards a lower, animal-like state of consciousness.. or inching towards values that you don't like when you aren't horny. So if you can acknowledge what you are doing and that you are making an exchange, and you are OK with that, it is your right to do that.. whether it's "OK" is not going to have one absolute answer. Is it OK to you? Would it be OK to others? Would your creator be OK with it? You have to answer all of these and it might not be that easy to do that.

But yet at the same time I believe the gods have nearly endless empathy for us and the struggle of existence, especially in human form. Maybe you don't have to feel guilty but you should make sure you aren't deluding yourself - be honest about what you are doing and what it is bringing about in the world and your soul.

 

[Engineered Trasformation]

Hello my Satanists (or Zevists),

Regarding perversion how far can perversion go before it goes to an immoral breaking of Satanic ethics. Obviously beastiality, incest and Pedophilia are all sick and out of bounds completely. How can one justify this to those who claim that we lean to this which is a complete lie.

Secondly, on the suicide question is it possible in a level of secrecy to worship death. The suicide question is to be honest well beyond human solving and one cannot stop someone who actively wants to commit sui. Would a future worship of death ceremony for those be available based on ethics of age etc, as a celebration if they want to leave or is this wrong?

Peace.

Men, I do not know you personally, but I know how the mind works at some extent, due to personal experience.
If you are questioning if perversion is OK with you, it mean most likely your unconscious is suggesting you have unhealthy habits. I am just guessing.
Same for death worshipping, this may come from extreme sources that sound external to your Soul.
My perception of your situation is, you may have been caught in strong energy vortexes to which you linked your chakra, thus you are influenced by thoughts that are not yours.
This is only a possibility.
Often this happens when you have strong Astral ties to another person, who is unhealthy.
Due to strong ties to my father, for example, I ended up catching his thoughts so deep that I thought they were mine. This has been said several times on here and is all about psychic vampires.
In case you are influenced out of your will, and you find the source, you may have a quite affordable solution - detaching.

I hope my words might be of help to you.

 

[WishtoTimeTravel]

Peeps lets focus on the death and Sui question. Are we allowed to praise and celebrate death?

 

[616Taysha]

Peeps lets focus on the death and Sui question. Are we allowed to praise and celebrate death?

if you read ToZ, you'd know.

 

[Epiphany]

No I do not want to commit Sui but after observation realise it is a normal thing and is suppressed by literally all humans worldwide. Thereby, a non atheistic approach (Satanic) is regarded in dealing with it with not the usual (life will be better nonsense) as for some humans this is not the case or they simply refuse to want to live on this planet.

Suicide is not normal. Zevism is a life affirming religion, we don't "worship death".

 

[Henu the Great]

Peeps lets focus on the death and Sui question. Are we allowed to praise and celebrate death?

You are allowed to do whatever you want. What comes with this freedom is the burden of consequence. Suicide as an act is something a healthy person does not consider, much less worships. The same with death in general.

 

[չ∂αяквℓσω]

What use are you if you're dead? It is also well known that the enemy tries to drive people who could pose a threat to him to suicide. Unfortunately, I have been through this myself, but luckily the gods helped me. Please perform the divine rituals and kindly ask for help.

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[WishtoTimeTravel]

Fairdos. I am well aware enemy tries to drive those to there demise. Nonetheless, Sui and death can also be looked upon us a relief for thoe who have no hope but ideally Satanists / Zevist followers should be strong enough to plough through and also look at death in a lens of awe.

 

[616Taysha]

Why do you persist insisting on suicide and death worshipping when Zevism is life-affirming?

What are your reasons for encouraging something that the jews and ilk would love to bring down upon us?

Haven't you read the ToZ website?

 

[Impetigo]

Fairdos. I am well aware enemy tries to drive those to there demise. Nonetheless, Sui and death can also be looked upon us a relief for thoe who have no hope but ideally Satanists / Zevist followers should be strong enough to plough through and also look at death in a lens of awe.

It is delusional to envision suicide as a relief from anything. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is, right? There's no easy way out. Whatever you're struggling with - if you think there ever will be hope, ever, then there is still hope now. If you think there is no hope then you are deluded. This is the distinction between the life force energy and the lack thereof. Life moves forward.

Under the grace of Zeus and the gods.

 

[Henu the Great]

Fairdos. I am well aware enemy tries to drive those to there demise. Nonetheless, Sui and death can also be looked upon us a relief for thoe who have no hope but ideally Satanists / Zevist followers should be strong enough to plough through and also look at death in a lens of awe.

Suicide is a viable option only when there is certain death looming ahead and when this action has the possibility for being less traumatic than the alternative. Other scenarios being seen as possibilities, such as euthanasia, are the result of lack of knowledge and spirituality. In other words, such ideas would not be entertained if heads were not so deep in the asses.

 

[Devilinside]

Forcing the hand of death is giving up on the spiritual authority your body naturally has. When you move your hand you are committing a spiritual act even if you do not realize it. You move through the planes of existence with a physical self and it's why you have one. A Zevist mush worship Holy death.

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I had a thought hit me that death is the purifier after asking the Holy Mighty Lord High Priest HoodedCobra due to his words. It's why forces a soul to evolve and act because without it stagnation is far to pretty a concept. Our Holy Gods demand we act in service of them because it's the right thing to do after all they've done for us but that doesn't mean the soul naturally wants too, and so they are kind and offer it's justice upon us so overtime our soul can grow to truly appreciate. I still do not understand much of anything in it's regards but on some level I've gained an amount of comfort over the concept compared to just a few days ago.

It doesn't make loss any easier but the truth is with this coming age of knowledge no soul will be able to claim ignorance, and at that time the truly desperate shall have their salvation so long as work is put into place.

 

[WishtoTimeTravel]

It is delusional to envision suicide as a relief from anything. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is, right? There's no easy way out. Whatever you're struggling with - if you think there ever will be hope, ever, then there is still hope now. If you think there is no hope then you are deluded. This is the distinction between the life force energy and the lack thereof. Life moves forward.

Under the grace of Zeus and the gods.

Maybe. Not suffering atm chilling with pizza and classic video games. However, there are limitations to this life like I want a purple sky not a blue one and other supernatural stuff in observation. And no not part of ZOG agenda to promote death on peeps especially fellow Satanists (or zevists).

 

[Goldenwings]

Hello my Satanists (or Zevists),

Regarding perversion how far can perversion go before it goes to an immoral breaking of Satanic ethics. Obviously beastiality, incest and Pedophilia are all sick and out of bounds completely. How can one justify this to those who claim that we lean to this which is a complete lie.

Secondly, on the suicide question is it possible in a level of secrecy to worship death. The suicide question is to be honest well beyond human solving and one cannot stop someone who actively wants to commit sui. Would a future worship of death ceremony for those be available based on ethics of age etc, as a celebration if they want to leave or is this wrong?

Peace.

Most talked about suicide i skimed through comments i didnt see incest,I wanted to answer all of it but lets pick one point first of all, im against incest. I am not normalising it .

Lets talk about incest , ( please dont ban me if i violate guidelines, im still new here, i am just a baby)

From some religious perspective, many religions claim we come from a man and a women just 2, which means incest was good back then and now became not normal ( weird)

Lets leave that to religious people to deal with
In human history humans learnt that incest result in health problems so naturally with time we developed morals that are against incest, and even in biology we have a thing that make us not desire incest ( forgot its name you can find it just research) additionally some like to debate why a boy dont marry his mom, thats so weird , i do not want to discuss it, lets talk about brother sister

Some pharaoh used to do that , but separate the siblings when growing up , to prevent them later of " feeling its weird" and they married each other ( fact check please, im not sure)

In modern days , a brother marrying his sister just feels wrong , lets bypass that , they may have a child with health problems, lets add a condom, here it becomes tricky, but why would two people have sex when its not about children ? For pleasure ? Ok why dont you try homosexuality?( In case you are straight) it may be pleasurable, why dont you wanna even try, you should give it a try( not literally, im just making a point not advocating it)

Additionally , the G spot is in mans anus , so, are we biologically bi? If you try in life making choices based on pleasure , the gray areas start to become blue and tempting and glowing , and when its based on pleasure it means you are more using your limbic system, instead of prefrontal cortex

Talking about reason, and forgeting about pleasure , things start making sense and boundries are set , when you open a door you simultaniously open multiple doors,

If brother sister incest is normal, if a person open that door, he in same time open door for his anus( i dont mean its bad to be bi, and i dont say that its good thats another subject i am just making statement) , why not give it a try? And multiple other doors , its a slippery slope ,when you use your brain instead you start understanding why many things are wrong.

Same for suicide if you use your common sense , there are many reasons why its bad ,imagine you have been reincarnated 1million times as "put here something you cant be , you cant live a single day being it" and now its your chance living as a human, and you will just end it and imagine the next reincarnation is again the thing you hate the most ( 1 of 1million reasons ) i am not saying people advocating it are stupid, actually they make some good points sometimes