Toxic people

[Maya]

A quick note to any person who has to deal with one or more toxic people around him. I know that it is really difficult to have around you or even  live with people who aren't by your side. It can get exhausting trying to justify yourself to people who have proven they lack the depth and wisdom needed to actually understand you. Like being in an enemy field. An unhealthy environment is only holding us back. They only create frustration, annoyance and emotional distress, to say the least.

There is almost never logic in any of their actions against you. They are influenced by the enemy or negative energies and every small talk can end up in an argument or a fight. Always think of this when you have to interact with them. You cannot control any person physically, but you can control your own actions. Boundaries and limitations are something crucial. And at some situations, physical boundaries may not be possible, but mental and emotional boundaries from your side can protect you.

I have found that the only subjects you can talk with these people without turn into an argument or anything causing unpleasant feelings is talking about weather, movies, sports and food. Never about feelings, goals, and anything that can be used against you. The less these people know about you, the better. By not letting them know stuff, they can't influence it. Brainstorming ways to change the subject, or ending the conversation or even leaving if necessary can prevent the situation from going off limit. These are some physical solutions for dealing with toxic people and preventing the situation from going out of control. If anyone has any other means that worked for him/her, we could gather them here.
And as for spiritual solutions, of course detaching is mandatory. Binding can also be a solution when the situation is out of control.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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Action is required in these situations. In the case of "friends" or other non-family people, then you should really just become cold and sterile in your responses. If they outright hostile to you, then the solution should become clear: there is no reason to associate in the slightest. They will get the hint.

In the cases of family members, roommates, or other complicated cases where you are stuck with the person, then this is where binding comes into play. Binding does not hurt them, it only prevents the actions you program the binding energy to restrain. By doing this, you also prevent a situation where they trigger you or your AOP, causing spiritual trouble for them. With this in mind, do not think binding is somehow too harsh.

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If you have trouble sticking up for yourself, then look into uses the elements or runes for this. Just because you may be predisposed to absorbing negative emotions from others, doesn't mean you cannot do anything about it.

By putting them in their place, justice and peace are restored, and further conflict is avoided. In the end, everyone will come to Satanism and be healed, so don't think they are damned if you are not there to "help" them.

Even if the cause of their actions can be something like poor health, spiritual/karmic problems, degeneracy pushed on them, and so on, this does not mean you have to suffer as well. It is imperative that you free yourself of these shitty weights on your shoulders, because you are the only thing that can truly save them and all gentiles as well.

 

[DragonFire11]

A quick note to any person who has to deal with one or more toxic people around him. I know that it is really difficult to have around you or even  live with people who aren't by your side. It can get exhausting trying to justify yourself to people who have proven they lack the depth and wisdom needed to actually understand you. Like being in an enemy field. An unhealthy environment is only holding us back. They only create frustration, annoyance and emotional distress, to say the least.

There is almost never logic in any of their actions against you. They are influenced by the enemy or negative energies and every small talk can end up in an argument or a fight. Always think of this when you have to interact with them. You cannot control any person physically, but you can control your own actions. Boundaries and limitations are something crucial. And at some situations, physical boundaries may not be possible, but mental and emotional boundaries from your side can protect you.

I have found that the only subjects you can talk with these people without turn into an argument or anything causing unpleasant feelings is talking about weather, movies, sports and food. Never about feelings, goals, and anything that can be used against you. The less these people know about you, the better. By not letting them know stuff, they can't influence it. Brainstorming ways to change the subject, or ending the conversation or even leaving if necessary can prevent the situation from going off limit. These are some physical solutions for dealing with toxic people and preventing the situation from going out of control. If anyone has any other means that worked for him/her, we could gather them here.
And as for spiritual solutions, of course detaching is mandatory. Binding can also be a solution when the situation is out of control.

This is very well writen. This is exactly how is with toxic people. I have only these around me, and as you say, you can not talk with them about serious topics, only simple conversation about work, weather, maybe family and thats it.

When I was younger I had a fiend, we were doing a lot of things together but somehow always had a feeling that I getting very exhausted from him and I never know why. When I found JoS and start study and read the topics I have found out that he /my friend/ was and still is an energy vampire. How interesting, that he married a woman who was/is even bigger energy vampire. Our friendship finished, I just couldnt stay even close to them because as soon I got in contact with them in that moment I felt depresson, tiredness and that my energy level is dropping fast. Me and my family, we are surrounded by these type of people and sometimes is hard to take it, many times we feel alone, no such friends who we can talk about any topics freely. Always have to be careful what we say and to who we say it, otherwise we put ourselfs into trouble.

The more we going on the Satanic path, following our mighty father Satan and the Gods, the more people around us become enemy. I see it every day, this make me a feeling that I not belong to them even I live among these people.

I am glad you send this post, make me feel good that I am on the right path and give me courage to continue on it.
Give me the feeling, I am not alone who is surrounded with people with negative vibration who wants your energy and nothing else.

 

[Shadowcat]

Signs of toxic people:

They never admit anything: This can range from gaslighting to flat out excuses for any sort of mistreatment or bad behavior. These types of people will often also have double standards and complain when this behavior is dished out at them but will make excuses about behaving this way towards others when confronted with it. These people often value their own ego to the point of pathology over relationships even with loved ones.

They are negative about everyone and everything: maybe someone is having a bad day. maybe they are stressed about something serious. However you also have people who are chronically irate about something and its never their fault. Even when they do something to make a change, something just seems to happen to come to them serving as a replacement for what they removed. These people often throw extensive pity parties that are very draining and often have defeatist attitudes. Your first instinct will often be to help them and listen to them to try to solve their problem or give comfort. But when they keep coming to you with the same old thing over and over again, or if there always seems to be drama around a particular subject no matter what something is amiss. you can bet that they will soon find something else to fit that role if that first issue is even ever solved. These types of people assume the worst often in many situations and can be major enthusiasm killers. Couple this with essentially attention whoring.

They are never, or don't know how to be emotionally available: You go to them with a problem. All you get is a few words or indifference. Not to mention the first sign of you looking for a shoulder to lean on will be met with accusation of yourself "making drama" or "talking about a subject all the time" and how they are fed up. Or you only get a few words back or disintrest. they just plain ignore you. This is selfishness at its finest. Af first sign of this kick them to the curb. Refer to the first point:they will make excuses for it if they are called out on it.

They are paranoid and/or controlling: connecting again with the 3rd point. They assume the worst most often and are the types of people to be very self protective yet will be callous and uncaring as how they can come off to others. These types of people have serious trust issues and are often the types to have very fickle emotions and judgement about a situation or person. They are unstable to say the least and can be maddening to interact with especially if it is hard to convince them they are overreacting or worrying for nothing.

They can't accept critizism: Everything is taken as a personal attack. They will not hear of it if you express that you feel you have been treated badly, or have percieved that they have behaved badly themselves. Ranging from critizism on these topics to even advice on self betterment and other, they will automatically register it as you calling them lower than dirt, or quickly accuse you of saying that you hate or dislike them. This can seem particularly insane when they keep coming to you for problems that you try to give solutions for that they decide are nonsense or other. Critizising them on anything or pointing out any wrongdoing will automatically result in some form of manipulation and them trying to make it about your faults. These people cannot stand to be wrong and must always have the last word. Not to mention despite being there for them through all their troubles they will still be the most horrible crazy person in the world just because you dared to express your feelings for once. The feeling of often of walking around on eggshells to preserve the peace and harmony is frequent with this dynamic, as the one walking over the shells is well aware that any type of critical feedback will not go over well, or that they would practically have to sugarcoat it to the point of almost distorting the truth. Not ok.

They do not fight fair: This can range from below the belt name calling, to bringing up a painful past, or a past grievence to use against someone that has long been made amends for. These sorts of people are often out of contributing anything meaningful to an arguement and just outright want to hurt you. They have alot of immaturity and can be very vendictive when angry. In the case of loved ones, this can actually leave marks and build up overtime and even completely destroy a relationship with a friend, lover or family member. If they are particulary manipulative they will try to minimize what you have experienced from them saying you have made a big deal out of nothing and can even couple that with flat out lying to you about their anger or contempt in the situation, or the extent thereof. Basically, they will try to make you out to be the crazy one.

They talk badly about others to you frequently or treat others badly infront of you for all types of relationships, family friendships and partners, this is a BIG red flag. Once the novetly wears off you can bet you will be treated exactly how this person treats others for good or ill. IF they talk shit about others to you behind their backs, you can bet the same will happen to you when you are no longer new in their life. The same with how they treat others directly. This will be the same way they treat you. So observe it carefully.

They have a temper: It could be repressed anger it could be something else. Weather its expressed in an outright rageful or passive aggressive way it is never healthy for those involved, them included. For relationships: if they hit even ONCE fucking leave.

For partnerships: They constantly compare you to others of the opposite sex or oggle them/flirt with them infront of you:this is a blatant disreguard for your feelings and your relationship. leave.

dark triad personality types are a given. RUN

This comes from the various numerous experiences i have had in my life with others throughout the years. Not all the people you come accross with these traits will be fundementally bad people. Oftentimes they are damaged in some way or have had an upbringing that did not teach them how to behave towards people or to even properly care for themselves. This still does not excuse the above, and obligate anyone to be subject to a toxic situation. If the person is important to you there are steps you can take to try to repair the relationship you have, also remember you can also be the toxic person to them, or it can go both ways. This can also be a synastry issue. but it takes two. if there is no change or only one does all the work there is only so much you can do. as a result staying around too long will make your emotional and mental health suffer.

 

[Maya]

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Action is required in these situations. In the case of "friends" or other non-family people, then you should really just become cold and sterile in your responses. If they outright hostile to you, then the solution should become clear: there is no reason to associate in the slightest. They will get the hint.

In the cases of family members, roommates, or other complicated cases where you are stuck with the person, then this is where binding comes into play. Binding does not hurt them, it only prevents the actions you program the binding energy to restrain. By doing this, you also prevent a situation where they trigger you or your AOP, causing spiritual trouble for them. With this in mind, do not think binding is somehow too harsh.

-----------------------------------------

If you have trouble sticking up for yourself, then look into uses the elements or runes for this. Just because you may be predisposed to absorbing negative emotions from others, doesn't mean you cannot do anything about it.

By putting them in their place, justice and peace are restored, and further conflict is avoided. In the end, everyone will come to Satanism and be healed, so don't think they are damned if you are not there to "help" them.

Even if the cause of their actions can be something like poor health, spiritual/karmic problems, degeneracy pushed on them, and so on, this does not mean you have to suffer as well. It is imperative that you free yourself of these shitty weights on your shoulders, because you are the only thing that can truly save them and all gentiles as well.

Thank you for your input. Putting fear, guilt (or whatever they make us feel) aside in such situations, and standing up for ourselves is step number one in order to help ourselves and take the situation in our hands. Everything we come through is a lesson for us.

 

[Maya]

A quick note to any person who has to deal with one or more toxic people around him. I know that it is really difficult to have around you or even  live with people who aren't by your side. It can get exhausting trying to justify yourself to people who have proven they lack the depth and wisdom needed to actually understand you. Like being in an enemy field. An unhealthy environment is only holding us back. They only create frustration, annoyance and emotional distress, to say the least.

There is almost never logic in any of their actions against you. They are influenced by the enemy or negative energies and every small talk can end up in an argument or a fight. Always think of this when you have to interact with them. You cannot control any person physically, but you can control your own actions. Boundaries and limitations are something crucial. And at some situations, physical boundaries may not be possible, but mental and emotional boundaries from your side can protect you.

I have found that the only subjects you can talk with these people without turn into an argument or anything causing unpleasant feelings is talking about weather, movies, sports and food. Never about feelings, goals, and anything that can be used against you. The less these people know about you, the better. By not letting them know stuff, they can't influence it. Brainstorming ways to change the subject, or ending the conversation or even leaving if necessary can prevent the situation from going off limit. These are some physical solutions for dealing with toxic people and preventing the situation from going out of control. If anyone has any other means that worked for him/her, we could gather them here.
And as for spiritual solutions, of course detaching is mandatory. Binding can also be a solution when the situation is out of control.

This is very well writen. This is exactly how is with toxic people. I have only these around me, and as you say, you can not talk with them about serious topics, only simple conversation about work, weather, maybe family and thats it.

When I was younger I had a fiend, we were doing a lot of things together but somehow always had a feeling that I getting very exhausted from him and I never know why. When I found JoS and start study and read the topics I have found out that he /my friend/ was and still is an energy vampire. How interesting, that he married a woman who was/is even bigger energy vampire. Our friendship finished, I just couldnt stay even close to them because as soon I got in contact with them in that moment I felt depresson, tiredness and that my energy level is dropping fast. Me and my family, we are surrounded by these type of people and sometimes is hard to take it, many times we feel alone, no such friends who we can talk about any topics freely. Always have to be careful what we say and to who we say it, otherwise we put ourselfs into trouble.

The more we going on the Satanic path, following our mighty father Satan and the Gods, the more people around us become enemy. I see it every day, this make me a feeling that I not belong to them even I live among these people.

I am glad you send this post, make me feel good that I am on the right path and give me courage to continue on it.
Give me the feeling, I am not alone who is surrounded with people with negative vibration who wants your energy and nothing else.

Thank you for your feedback. For people like us, the enemy hopes we do a "carried away" step, open up to the wrong person. By doing this, is like creating a battlefield which will drain us, make us waste energy on that, and as a result, to lose precious time which we could invest on ourselves, our advancement, making our lives better. The enemy always does whatever seems to be energy and time wasting for us, and putting us in a loop.
I think that most (if not all) people here have experienced this at least once, in the face of a friend, a family member, a partner. This only makes us stronger and able to proceed to our path.
I think that's the reason I started to be active on forums. We are never alone, we have our Gods by our side, but sometimes it's nice to see that physically there are others who have the same direction as you. Together we become stronger faster, and this is what scares the enemy.

 

[Maya]

Signs of toxic people:

They never admit anything: This can range from gaslighting to flat out excuses for any sort of mistreatment or bad behavior. These types of people will often also have double standards and complain when this behavior is dished out at them but will make excuses about behaving this way towards others when confronted with it. These people often value their own ego to the point of pathology over relationships even with loved ones.

They are negative about everyone and everything: maybe someone is having a bad day. maybe they are stressed about something serious. However you also have people who are chronically irate about something and its never their fault. Even when they do something to make a change, something just seems to happen to come to them serving as a replacement for what they removed. These people often throw extensive pity parties that are very draining and often have defeatist attitudes. Your first instinct will often be to help them and listen to them to try to solve their problem or give comfort. But when they keep coming to you with the same old thing over and over again, or if there always seems to be drama around a particular subject no matter what something is amiss. you can bet that they will soon find something else to fit that role if that first issue is even ever solved. These types of people assume the worst often in many situations and can be major enthusiasm killers. Couple this with essentially attention whoring.

They are never, or don't know how to be emotionally available: You go to them with a problem. All you get is a few words or indifference. Not to mention the first sign of you looking for a shoulder to lean on will be met with accusation of yourself "making drama" or "talking about a subject all the time" and how they are fed up. Or you only get a few words back or disintrest. they just plain ignore you. This is selfishness at its finest. Af first sign of this kick them to the curb. Refer to the first point:they will make excuses for it if they are called out on it.

They are paranoid and/or controlling: connecting again with the 3rd point. They assume the worst most often and are the types of people to be very self protective yet will be callous and uncaring as how they can come off to others. These types of people have serious trust issues and are often the types to have very fickle emotions and judgement about a situation or person. They are unstable to say the least and can be maddening to interact with especially if it is hard to convince them they are overreacting or worrying for nothing.

They can't accept critizism: Everything is taken as a personal attack. They will not hear of it if you express that you feel you have been treated badly, or have percieved that they have behaved badly themselves. Ranging from critizism on these topics to even advice on self betterment and other, they will automatically register it as you calling them lower than dirt, or quickly accuse you of saying that you hate or dislike them. This can seem particularly insane when they keep coming to you for problems that you try to give solutions for that they decide are nonsense or other. Critizising them on anything or pointing out any wrongdoing will automatically result in some form of manipulation and them trying to make it about your faults. These people cannot stand to be wrong and must always have the last word. Not to mention despite being there for them through all their troubles they will still be the most horrible crazy person in the world just because you dared to express your feelings for once. The feeling of often of walking around on eggshells to preserve the peace and harmony is frequent with this dynamic, as the one walking over the shells is well aware that any type of critical feedback will not go over well, or that they would practically have to sugarcoat it to the point of almost distorting the truth. Not ok.

They do not fight fair: This can range from below the belt name calling, to bringing up a painful past, or a past grievence to use against someone that has long been made amends for. These sorts of people are often out of contributing anything meaningful to an arguement and just outright want to hurt you. They have alot of immaturity and can be very vendictive when angry. In the case of loved ones, this can actually leave marks and build up overtime and even completely destroy a relationship with a friend, lover or family member. If they are particulary manipulative they will try to minimize what you have experienced from them saying you have made a big deal out of nothing and can even couple that with flat out lying to you about their anger or contempt in the situation, or the extent thereof. Basically, they will try to make you out to be the crazy one.

They talk badly about others to you frequently or treat others badly infront of you for all types of relationships, family friendships and partners, this is a BIG red flag. Once the novetly wears off you can bet you will be treated exactly how this person treats others for good or ill. IF they talk shit about others to you behind their backs, you can bet the same will happen to you when you are no longer new in their life. The same with how they treat others directly. This will be the same way they treat you. So observe it carefully.

They have a temper: It could be repressed anger it could be something else. Weather its expressed in an outright rageful or passive aggressive way it is never healthy for those involved, them included. For relationships: if they hit even ONCE fucking leave.

For partnerships: They constantly compare you to others of the opposite sex or oggle them/flirt with them infront of you:this is a blatant disreguard for your feelings and your relationship. leave.

dark triad personality types are a given. RUN

This comes from the various numerous experiences i have had in my life with others throughout the years. Not all the people you come accross with these traits will be fundementally bad people. Oftentimes they are damaged in some way or have had an upbringing that did not teach them how to behave towards people or to even properly care for themselves. This still does not excuse the above, and obligate anyone to be subject to a toxic situation. If the person is important to you there are steps you can take to try to repair the relationship you have, also remember you can also be the toxic person to them, or it can go both ways. This can also be a synastry issue. but it takes two. if there is no change or only one does all the work there is only so much you can do. as a result staying around too long will make your emotional and mental health suffer.

Exactly, thank you for your input. Everyone can have some toxic traits when interacting with someone. The key here is to recognize the intensity and how often this happens. All types are trying to make you feel vulnerable.

They can act as gossipers spreading secrets, even lies; as victims, they act like they are always in crisis, for no real reason; they can impose negativity and pessimism and look for someone to carry their negative emotions, or whining about what others have, and how much they deserved to have them. They can act as egocentrics, always concerned for themselves only, seeking emotional support but never give;
they can be adept in judging others, they are only satisfied when you aren't. They make you feel like everything you choose or do is wrong, or even can be arrogants who see as a challenge your own success, pushy and create problems between other people. All of them try to emotionally manipulate others in any way possible.