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jrvan said:
SATchives said:
jrvan said:
Rehash every self help book ever, tell men to get in shape, and profit from a bunch of weak men giving you money thinking you "saved" them. He's a swine, and the only thing I have gained from him is the realization that it's disappointingly easy to be worshiped in society. I should just forsake my honor and all my scruples, and go get a bunch of dumb people to follow me and give me their money. Then I could just donate it all to the JoS...

Andrew Tate is generic, fake, stupid, and a dime a dozen. The self help industry has a million of him. Like that retarded jew Stefan Molyneux. Everyone has a book to sell, and everyone wants to "help" you become a "better man" by taking your money and telling you basic shit that you should already know, and can find anywhere else for free if you don't already know it.

I'm so tired of hearing men glorify turds like these guys. I remember when Jack did the same thing with his "how 2 get laid for men" post lmao. He just copied everything he absorbed elsewhere on the internet, mostly PUA crap. Literally anyone can do this to make money and gain followers, it's so stupid. Barnum is more right now than he ever was, "There's a sucker born every minute." And there appears to be no shortage of gullible men.

You can have your own thoughts and opinions, I still heavily disagree with everything you say. however I can say that my life is better from Hustler's University, I've paid for several education courses before and can say this is the cheapest and one of the most informative ones i've bought, sharing ideas and information i've not seen before. Other than this He motivates me more than others have in recent days. That alone is also a value to me. And most things anyone says has been formed from information they have taken in through their life. and most likely been said once before in history, taking valuable things from your life that you absorbed and share it in an articulate way that connects with others is a very valuable skill. And as a kickboxer myself I appreciate the effort he's put into his sport, and i appreciate the effort he's put into his businesses even more, it's very motivating to see a Gentile like him go from nothing to success without breaking his own morals and selling out. It's also very motivating see his brotherly bond with his brother. It just seems to me you are hating the guy to hate the guy and haven't really researched into it

Wasn't antagonizing you, nor did I realize you were that into his stuff. I'll tell you what motivated me to reply in the first place. In my mind, I saw it as comparing two different sets of feces. So I went on a rant to talk crap about the second piece of crap because one piece of crap being "100x" better than another piece of crap is just ridiculous. They're both crap.

Please don't do to me what others have done to me by lying about me not being okay with others disagreeing with me. I literally don't care at all. You and anyone else have freedom of thought just like I do, there's no need to say the obvious. Like who you want to like, you don't have to defend your right to like who you want to me.

And no, I'm not hating on him for no reason. I have plenty of reasons to dislike him. He's a fraud, a confidence man, he disrespects women (now a fucking muslim, like holy shit you should find a new role model asap), he's NOT moral and puts shekels over his conscience, and he also blasphemes my God. He probably ignored our High Priest's courteous letter too. He's trash, and if he wasn't brought up for discussion on the forums in the first place then I wouldn't even know about him because I don't care about current events anymore for the most part, and more importantly I don't pay attention to trash unless they directly affect me.

By the way, if you want great advice that's been said before through history, and you want to be successful, then 1. empower your solar chakra, and 2. emulate and listen to great men of history like Hitler and others - not Andrew Tate the muslim lmao. Even better yet, ask the Gods for advice.

I said he was ignorant and arrogant, in regards to spirituality and the Truth about the jews. why would I lie about anyone. Why would you assume that of someone. Especially a brother is Satan.

I've not actually seen him disrespect women, he thinks that women are better at certain things and men are better at certain things. he's definitely not a fraud, because he's not done anything deceptive. He and his brother was broke their whole life, and is ignorant of meditation, and other things, where spending his money would have more effect against the jews. and many other factors, sure this is foolish, but there are many things he's trying to do as well such as making his own bank outside of the matrix, and lets be honest there is nothing wrong with acting on greed and buying assets and spending ones money, especially when he believes ignorantly that there is nothing better to spend his money on, this is a fault of ignorance. but who cares what he does with money.

The fact that he's being canceled by the entire world should say some things.

He's giving a lot of men the masculinity that they have lost, back. these aren't my words this is from the thousands of Gentile followers that speak positively of him. and teaching a lot of Gentiles how to get out of jewish financial slavery. I didn't know about him until the discussion on the forums either, then I did a lot of research, watched a lot of long form content where he spoke(not what others say he believes but what he from his own mouth says he believes), and found that some of what he says has a lot of merit, and comes from a deep internal need for the Truth, aside from his religious view points of course, which by switching his beliefs around it's clear he doesn't know what he believes, and hasn't read into religions in depth at all to see the truth, and is most likely just following trends of people like fresh and fit ( which he's friends with and are muslim),

Simple fact is he is ignorant and lied to by the jews, however he does see the truth of there being a matrix and a basic idea of the elites, but has not all the information, nor the ties to the jews. there is nothing wrong with being a confident man. This is what the jews are afraid of confident strong men.

Elon is shady, and deceptively working with communists china for profit, working with A.I and making technology that will push humanity over the edge into transhumanism where it will be to late. and who knows what else. sure he's doing a bunch of good to, but this is because of our RTR's. It does not change the fact that he is a jew. and of the enemy in the pocket of the enemy. I'm skeptical about elon more than any one right now.

[“The biggest difficulty in advancing sustainable energy lies in the large-scale production of lithium battery cells,” Musk added, noting that “Chinese companies will be a force to be reckoned with in the cause of energy innovation.”
Musk then went on to discuss the “Tesla Bot,” which he said were developed to “replace people in repetitive, boring, and dangerous tasks,” but could one day “serve millions of households” by doing menial labor.
“It is foreseeable that with the power of robots,” Musk added, “we will create an era of extreme abundance of goods and services, where everyone can live a life of abundance. Perhaps the only scarcity that will exist in the future is for us to create ourselves as humans.”
In regards to Neuralink, which he said was not well-known in China, Musk pitched the idea that it could one day allow humans to “effectively integrate with artificial intelligence.”]

https://www.technocracy.news/why-would-elon-musk-praise-china-on-internet-censorship/


I still stand by what I said.

Tate is making a bit of a fool of himself by partying, not studying further into the truths of things, and trying to find truth in jewish dogman, but he is sharing his knowledge with others and motivating many men against the matrix and collapsing feminist marxist efforts of that have been put into place over the last few decades.

When anyone is canceled I look to why they where canceled, and every single time they are canceled it's because they did something the jews did not want, or are posing a danger. in tates case he's empowering the most dangerous part of a civilization, military aged men, 18-30 age men, he's giving masculine energy back to men in by speaking simple truths, like work hard, turn depression into motivation, don't settle with being a loser, dont feel sorry for yourself, keeping your frame of masculine energy, staying firm - against relationship death by a thousand concessions, exposing the lies of the marxist feminist movement, being against drugs and steroids, and giving knowledge on how to make money outside of the 9-5 paradigm. all for the cost of a meal out.

Yeah he said some ignorant and bad things, but am I supposed to hate every person that is ignorant of the truth? No. He is a effect of our cause and rtr's, plain and simple. he is an enemy of the jews.
He's a force that's working in our favor because of our energy, for you to hate him and redicule me for saying these things. Is in simple terms ridiculous. focus your hate on the jews in general, and not a deluded Gentile, no one blasphemes Satan more than the jews, they know what they are doing.

And by the way in your last paragraph you are making it seem like I don't listen to great minds like Hitler, and that I do not have a relationship with the Gods. Satan and the Gods guide me everyday, for you to attack my character like that is sick minded and not easily looked over. and this is not a lie.

If you don't want people to speak ill of you don't put yourself in a position to be spoken ill of. I did not appreciate the lack of respect.
 
SATchives said:
jrvan said:
SATchives said:
You can have your own thoughts and opinions, I still heavily disagree with everything you say. however I can say that my life is better from Hustler's University, I've paid for several education courses before and can say this is the cheapest and one of the most informative ones i've bought, sharing ideas and information i've not seen before. Other than this He motivates me more than others have in recent days. That alone is also a value to me. And most things anyone says has been formed from information they have taken in through their life. and most likely been said once before in history, taking valuable things from your life that you absorbed and share it in an articulate way that connects with others is a very valuable skill. And as a kickboxer myself I appreciate the effort he's put into his sport, and i appreciate the effort he's put into his businesses even more, it's very motivating to see a Gentile like him go from nothing to success without breaking his own morals and selling out. It's also very motivating see his brotherly bond with his brother. It just seems to me you are hating the guy to hate the guy and haven't really researched into it

Wasn't antagonizing you, nor did I realize you were that into his stuff. I'll tell you what motivated me to reply in the first place. In my mind, I saw it as comparing two different sets of feces. So I went on a rant to talk crap about the second piece of crap because one piece of crap being "100x" better than another piece of crap is just ridiculous. They're both crap.

Please don't do to me what others have done to me by lying about me not being okay with others disagreeing with me. I literally don't care at all. You and anyone else have freedom of thought just like I do, there's no need to say the obvious. Like who you want to like, you don't have to defend your right to like who you want to me.

And no, I'm not hating on him for no reason. I have plenty of reasons to dislike him. He's a fraud, a confidence man, he disrespects women (now a fucking muslim, like holy shit you should find a new role model asap), he's NOT moral and puts shekels over his conscience, and he also blasphemes my God. He probably ignored our High Priest's courteous letter too. He's trash, and if he wasn't brought up for discussion on the forums in the first place then I wouldn't even know about him because I don't care about current events anymore for the most part, and more importantly I don't pay attention to trash unless they directly affect me.

By the way, if you want great advice that's been said before through history, and you want to be successful, then 1. empower your solar chakra, and 2. emulate and listen to great men of history like Hitler and others - not Andrew Tate the muslim lmao. Even better yet, ask the Gods for advice.

I said he was ignorant and arrogant, in regards to spirituality and the Truth about the jews. why would I lie about anyone. Why would you assume that of someone. Especially a brother is Satan.

I've not actually seen him disrespect women, he thinks that women are better at certain things and men are better at certain things. he's definitely not a fraud, because he's not done anything deceptive. He and his brother was broke their whole life, and is ignorant of meditation, and other things, where spending his money would have more effect against the jews. and many other factors, sure this is foolish, but there are many things he's trying to do as well such as making his own bank outside of the matrix, and lets be honest there is nothing wrong with acting on greed and buying assets and spending ones money, especially when he believes ignorantly that there is nothing better to spend his money on, this is a fault of ignorance. but who cares what he does with money.

The fact that he's being canceled by the entire world should say some things.

He's giving a lot of men the masculinity that they have lost, back. these aren't my words this is from the thousands of Gentile followers that speak positively of him. and teaching a lot of Gentiles how to get out of jewish financial slavery. I didn't know about him until the discussion on the forums either, then I did a lot of research, watched a lot of long form content where he spoke(not what others say he believes but what he from his own mouth says he believes), and found that some of what he says has a lot of merit, and comes from a deep internal need for the Truth, aside from his religious view points of course, which by switching his beliefs around it's clear he doesn't know what he believes, and hasn't read into religions in depth at all to see the truth, and is most likely just following trends of people like fresh and fit ( which he's friends with and are muslim),

Simple fact is he is ignorant and lied to by the jews, however he does see the truth of there being a matrix and a basic idea of the elites, but has not all the information, nor the ties to the jews. there is nothing wrong with being a confident man. This is what the jews are afraid of confident strong men.

Elon is shady, and deceptively working with communists china for profit, working with A.I and making technology that will push humanity over the edge into transhumanism where it will be to late. and who knows what else. sure he's doing a bunch of good to, but this is because of our RTR's. It does not change the fact that he is a jew. and of the enemy in the pocket of the enemy. I'm skeptical about elon more than any one right now.

[“The biggest difficulty in advancing sustainable energy lies in the large-scale production of lithium battery cells,” Musk added, noting that “Chinese companies will be a force to be reckoned with in the cause of energy innovation.”
Musk then went on to discuss the “Tesla Bot,” which he said were developed to “replace people in repetitive, boring, and dangerous tasks,” but could one day “serve millions of households” by doing menial labor.
“It is foreseeable that with the power of robots,” Musk added, “we will create an era of extreme abundance of goods and services, where everyone can live a life of abundance. Perhaps the only scarcity that will exist in the future is for us to create ourselves as humans.”
In regards to Neuralink, which he said was not well-known in China, Musk pitched the idea that it could one day allow humans to “effectively integrate with artificial intelligence.”]

https://www.technocracy.news/why-would-elon-musk-praise-china-on-internet-censorship/


I still stand by what I said.

Tate is making a bit of a fool of himself by partying, not studying further into the truths of things, and trying to find truth in jewish dogman, but he is sharing his knowledge with others and motivating many men against the matrix and collapsing feminist marxist efforts of that have been put into place over the last few decades.

When anyone is canceled I look to why they where canceled, and every single time they are canceled it's because they did something the jews did not want, or are posing a danger. in tates case he's empowering the most dangerous part of a civilization, military aged men, 18-30 age men, he's giving masculine energy back to men in by speaking simple truths, like work hard, turn depression into motivation, don't settle with being a loser, dont feel sorry for yourself, keeping your frame of masculine energy, staying firm - against relationship death by a thousand concessions, exposing the lies of the marxist feminist movement, being against drugs and steroids, and giving knowledge on how to make money outside of the 9-5 paradigm. all for the cost of a meal out.

Yeah he said some ignorant and bad things, but am I supposed to hate every person that is ignorant of the truth? No. He is a effect of our cause and rtr's, plain and simple. he is an enemy of the jews.
He's a force that's working in our favor because of our energy, for you to hate him and redicule me for saying these things. Is in simple terms ridiculous. focus your hate on the jews in general, and not a deluded Gentile, no one blasphemes Satan more than the jews, they know what they are doing.

And by the way in your last paragraph you are making it seem like I don't listen to great minds like Hitler, and that I do not have a relationship with the Gods. Satan and the Gods guide me everyday, for you to attack my character like that is sick minded and not easily looked over. and this is not a lie.

If you don't want people to speak ill of you don't put yourself in a position to be spoken ill of. I did not appreciate the lack of respect.

I'm not disrespecting you, not attacking your character, nothing. I haven't done anything to you. I have only spoken my mind, and nowhere did I make it personal other than giving well intended advice. Like when I advised to find a different role model. There are so many better male role models than Tate. You're allowed to disagree with me, and I'm allowed to disagree with you. You're not going to convince me of Tate's good character no matter what, and the more you defend him and advocate him in public like this, the more I feel compelled to give a counter view for anyone who might think it's worth paying attention to the fool. You see, I like to protect naive people in the background from predators.

Regarding the first line about people lying about me: I was careless while writing that. I should have written it better. My intent wasn't to accuse you of lying about me, I know you didn't say anything like that. I just saw the seemingly defensive stance at the beginning of your message about having the right to disagree with me or whatever, and it kind of gave me flashbacks to assholes like Ol Argedco lying and pretending that the reason I was so pissed off at him was because he disagreed with me. It was never about that, and he knew it. So I was just politely asking you to not get the wrong idea.

I don't even know you or have ever spoken to you until now so how would my last paragraph be made to seem like that? That's absurd. I don't know anything about your advancement, and I don't care to try to undermine you like that. I'm not so underhanded as you think. I don't need to use shady tactics to win an argument. If I want to win an argument there's plenty of better ways to do it, but I don't usually engage in arguments with the mere goal of winning, and I'm not seeking to argue with you in the first place. And finally, that advice could be useful for anyone.

Now that things have unfortunately escalated and become slightly personal, let's please de-escalate.

Hope I addressed everything important. It's a long message, and I'm not interested in Andrew Tate or convincing you about Andrew Tate. If he's on our side as you claim then he can prove it by heeding the High Priest's advice. Until then I'm going to believe that he's a pawn of the enemy because that is what he has shown.
 
Sundara said:
Hitler is very 1920-30’s. We can’t follow someone whose methods worked for the time period they were in. And the country. Elon, definitely aware of the Jews. Which is why I’ve brought him up. Smart man he is, no doubt.

By the way, people are already dogging him publicly for made up issues that haven’t even happened yet, like questions on whether or not he will be allowing Kanye west or “antisemetic” commentary on Twitter. It’s all right there on his page. People whining and bitching already trying to slander him and inhibit him from doing anything.
Every so often the jew in you can't help but jump out, can it?

How do you even compare a living legend turned God who pulled a nation from mathematically precise destruction to the world's super power and saved the world from global communism to some jew? You can go line up for Elon's brain chips by all means.

In case anyone doesn't know, Sundara is some infiltrator who was trying to become clergy through manipulation but failed.
 
And no Hitler wasn't of that age. He was decades if not centuries ahead.

Look at America today. This is Weimar Republic 2.0. Jews controlling the media, cultural Marxism at its finest, rising inflation, racial tension caused by jews, war in the air, the world at the brink of another communist revolution. Europe is the same. Only Satan's souls like ourselves and Hitler and his men can help the world in times like these.

Only a disgusting jewess like yourself would put Elon above Hitler in any way. Hitler had close to nothing in life and gave the world and his people everything. Elon has hundreds of billions of dollars and is working towards the enemy's agenda.
 
Sundara said:
jrvan said:
SATchives said:
You can have your own thoughts and opinions, I still heavily disagree with everything you say. however I can say that my life is better from Hustler's University, I've paid for several education courses before and can say this is the cheapest and one of the most informative ones i've bought, sharing ideas and information i've not seen before. Other than this He motivates me more than others have in recent days. That alone is also a value to me. And most things anyone says has been formed from information they have taken in through their life. and most likely been said once before in history, taking valuable things from your life that you absorbed and share it in an articulate way that connects with others is a very valuable skill. And as a kickboxer myself I appreciate the effort he's put into his sport, and i appreciate the effort he's put into his businesses even more, it's very motivating to see a Gentile like him go from nothing to success without breaking his own morals and selling out. It's also very motivating see his brotherly bond with his brother. It just seems to me you are hating the guy to hate the guy and haven't really researched into it

Wasn't antagonizing you, nor did I realize you were that into his stuff. I'll tell you what motivated me to reply in the first place. In my mind, I saw it as comparing two different sets of feces. So I went on a rant to talk crap about the second piece of crap because one piece of crap being "100x" better than another piece of crap is just ridiculous. They're both crap.

Please don't do to me what others have done to me by lying about me not being okay with others disagreeing with me. I literally don't care at all. You and anyone else have freedom of thought just like I do, there's no need to say the obvious. Like who you want to like, you don't have to defend your right to like who you want to me.

And no, I'm not hating on him for no reason. I have plenty of reasons to dislike him. He's a fraud, a confidence man, he disrespects women (now a fucking muslim, like holy shit you should find a new role model asap), he's NOT moral and puts shekels over his conscience, and he also blasphemes my God. He probably ignored our High Priest's courteous letter too. He's trash, and if he wasn't brought up for discussion on the forums in the first place then I wouldn't even know about him because I don't care about current events anymore for the most part, and more importantly I don't pay attention to trash unless they directly affect me.

By the way, if you want great advice that's been said before through history, and you want to be successful, then 1. empower your solar chakra, and 2. emulate and listen to great men of history like Hitler and others - not Andrew Tate the muslim lmao. Even better yet, ask the Gods for advice.




This is why we can’t have nice things or follow anyone. Neutral feelings on both at the end of the day. Elon also explained his reason for not being a modern day Mother Theresa. Who was no saint. Hitler is very 1920-30’s. We can’t follow someone whose methods worked for the time period they were in. And the country. Elon, definitely aware of the Jews. Which is why I’ve brought him up. Smart man he is, no doubt.

By the way, people are already dogging him publicly for made up issues that haven’t even happened yet, like questions on whether or not he will be allowing Kanye west or “antisemetic” commentary on Twitter. It’s all right there on his page. People whining and bitching already trying to slander him and inhibit him from doing anything.

You're saying Hitler's methods for "being a man" are outdated? They're timeless. Certain political strategies and whatnot might not work today, but that's different. To say that you can't learn how to be a man from one of the greatest men in history is just ridiculous. His speeches contain great wisdom, his character is full of power and honor, and his actions speak for themselves. He was rightfully adored by all, and he didn't have to con any of them to get their love. You would be hard pressed to find a better role model.

What about our High Priest Hoodedcobra? He's also an excellent role model. He's greater than Andrew Tate, Elon Musk, and most modern men could ever hope to be. He's shared far greater wisdom and advice than all these confidence men. He does so much more than tell us to go to the gym (which he tells us too, because anyone can and should say that... shouldn't even need to be said), he provides us with these forums, he guides us spiritually, he coordinates our spiritual warfare, he oversees all of the JoS projects, he helps us connect with our Gods. What doesn't this great man do? Forget Elon Musk, forget Andrew Tate. Their wealth won't last, and people won't remember them more than a fleeting moment. Our High Priest is a real exemplary man to follow. These other guys are just pretenders and opportunists who know how to run their mouth and get crowds to listen. Lucky for them, so many naive men these days love to give their power away.
 
@Jrvan I don't think Andrew Tate is of the enemy. He's just confused and uninformed. He sees that there's a shady group running the world and tries to expose them at his capacity. He sees them using artists like Lil Nas X to smear Satanism and assumes that it is Satanists who are behind it. This is why he was urged to not be ignorant and try and research things properly. I hope the Kanye West situation opens his eyes as to who really runs the world.

He is a complex case and it's true he does help men who are struggling with their masculinity. It is also true that he really values money and material possessions. I would say it's better to have a more wholesome view of someone especially if they're a Gentile. Most Gentiles are clueless in many areas of life and usually think they're doing the right thing.
 
jrvan said:
SATchives said:

I'm not disrespecting you, not attacking your character, nothing. I haven't done anything to you. I have only spoken my mind, and nowhere did I make it personal other than giving well intended advice. Like when I advised to find a different role model. There are so many better male role models than Tate. You're allowed to disagree with me, and I'm allowed to disagree with you. You're not going to convince me of Tate's good character no matter what, and the more you defend him and advocate him in public like this, the more I feel compelled to give a counter view for anyone who might think it's worth paying attention to the fool. You see, I like to protect naive people in the background from predators.

Regarding the first line about people lying about me: I was careless while writing that. I should have written it better. My intent wasn't to accuse you of lying about me, I know you didn't say anything like that. I just saw the seemingly defensive stance at the beginning of your message about having the right to disagree with me or whatever, and it kind of gave me flashbacks to assholes like Ol Argedco lying and pretending that the reason I was so pissed off at him was because he disagreed with me. It was never about that, and he knew it. So I was just politely asking you to not get the wrong idea.

I don't even know you or have ever spoken to you until now so how would my last paragraph be made to seem like that? That's absurd. I don't know anything about your advancement, and I don't care to try to undermine you like that. I'm not so underhanded as you think. I don't need to use shady tactics to win an argument. If I want to win an argument there's plenty of better ways to do it, but I don't usually engage in arguments with the mere goal of winning, and I'm not seeking to argue with you in the first place. And finally, that advice could be useful for anyone.

Now that things have unfortunately escalated and become slightly personal, let's please de-escalate.

Hope I addressed everything important. It's a long message, and I'm not interested in Andrew Tate or convincing you about Andrew Tate. If he's on our side as you claim then he can prove it by heeding the High Priest's advice. Until then I'm going to believe that he's a pawn of the enemy because that is what he has shown.

Okay, I understand.
 
SATchives said:
jrvan said:
SATchives said:

I'm not disrespecting you, not attacking your character, nothing. I haven't done anything to you. I have only spoken my mind, and nowhere did I make it personal other than giving well intended advice. Like when I advised to find a different role model. There are so many better male role models than Tate. You're allowed to disagree with me, and I'm allowed to disagree with you. You're not going to convince me of Tate's good character no matter what, and the more you defend him and advocate him in public like this, the more I feel compelled to give a counter view for anyone who might think it's worth paying attention to the fool. You see, I like to protect naive people in the background from predators.

Regarding the first line about people lying about me: I was careless while writing that. I should have written it better. My intent wasn't to accuse you of lying about me, I know you didn't say anything like that. I just saw the seemingly defensive stance at the beginning of your message about having the right to disagree with me or whatever, and it kind of gave me flashbacks to assholes like Ol Argedco lying and pretending that the reason I was so pissed off at him was because he disagreed with me. It was never about that, and he knew it. So I was just politely asking you to not get the wrong idea.

I don't even know you or have ever spoken to you until now so how would my last paragraph be made to seem like that? That's absurd. I don't know anything about your advancement, and I don't care to try to undermine you like that. I'm not so underhanded as you think. I don't need to use shady tactics to win an argument. If I want to win an argument there's plenty of better ways to do it, but I don't usually engage in arguments with the mere goal of winning, and I'm not seeking to argue with you in the first place. And finally, that advice could be useful for anyone.

Now that things have unfortunately escalated and become slightly personal, let's please de-escalate.

Hope I addressed everything important. It's a long message, and I'm not interested in Andrew Tate or convincing you about Andrew Tate. If he's on our side as you claim then he can prove it by heeding the High Priest's advice. Until then I'm going to believe that he's a pawn of the enemy because that is what he has shown.

Okay, I understand.

I'm relieved to hear that. I really don't want to cause any tension. I have some communication issues in my chart that I'm planning to do workings for next year which Blitzkreig JG has informed me of. Namely, it can cause me to come across as far more intense than I want to, even by accident. I have no idea how it is for other people on the receiving side when I'm arguing or communicating my ideas, but most of the time even when I'm arguing, unless I'm actually angry, in my mind when I'm typing things up I feel totally calm and neutral. But others have apparently claimed that it feels intense to them at times so I don't know. Like apparently it has more to do with the energy than even the wording. If others are experiencing something different from me even though I feel calm then it simply must be the placements I suppose like Blitz said.

It really wasn't my intent to disrespect you. I actually tried to avoid that as best as possible while getting my message across. I looked through my wording a few times, but I still missed some things. It happens. Like I said, I don't know anything about you so I have no reason to dislike you or be against you. I only really know you from your Satchives series which I always appreciated and thought was really helpful and good work.
 
Blackdragon666 [JG said:
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@Jrvan I don't think Andrew Tate is of the enemy. He's just confused and uninformed. He sees that there's a shady group running the world and tries to expose them at his capacity. He sees them using artists like Lil Nas X to smear Satanism and assumes that it is Satanists who are behind it. This is why he was urged to not be ignorant and try and research things properly. I hope the Kanye West situation opens his eyes as to who really runs the world.

He is a complex case and it's true he does help men who are struggling with their masculinity. It is also true that he really values money and material possessions. I would say it's better to have a more wholesome view of someone especially if they're a Gentile. Most Gentiles are clueless in many areas of life and usually think they're doing the right thing.

I appreciate the input. Personally, I'm going to take the wait and see approach. For now, I don't trust him, and I think there are far better resources for men to turn to for that sort of thing but that's my opinion. He kind of has become categorized in my mind in the same sort of general crowd as MGTOW cult leaders like Sandman (whom I hate passionately). If he's truly not like that and turns his act around then that would be wonderful.

I'll say that the part about Kanye was an angle I didn't consider, and it makes me a little hopeful. I could see that as a possibility. If he learns the truth then I'll be much happier about this situation as well as more eager to embrace it as a positive thing for our side. Please excuse my lingering cynicism for now, haha.
 
jrvan said:
Sundara said:
More great things about Elon, he doesn’t do things for shills like Tate or create harm to his own causes by acting out foolishly. He doesn’t place himself in positions of slander for the sake of slander or proving a point. Like some Borat character. Making a scene to provoke a reaction to point fingers at the reaction is actually weak. He gets up and does something about issues since he can’t shut his eyes to them. He has even cried tears because NASA let him down so hard. He’s slandered relentlessly and continues to put in effort regardless of slander. Yet people will get up and slander him faster than Bezos on his pages and attack him the worst, harder than Kanye. And sue for whatever they can. Not that it’s a battle of which gentile has it worst. He’s got an impressive character. I’d basically give him a Hail Elon, but that’s also foolish. 10/10 would follow as a leader though. I’m surprised there isn’t more positive talk about him. He seems to have a great heart. I could be wrong but in a world where everything is wrong, best to shoot and miss than not shoot at all.

Let's praise and follow Trump while we're at it. :roll:

Pissrael's bottom bitch? Nah I wouldn't let him lick the dirt off my steel toe 🤣🤣
 
jrvan said:
I have some communication issues in my chart that I'm planning to do workings for next year which Blitzkreig JG has informed me of. Namely, it can cause me to come across as far more intense than I want to, even by accident.

This is exactly what I have been trying to tell you many times. And every time you have pretended that you are perfect and it must be me that has all the problems. So I am happy that you finally listened to Blitzkreig when he only told you the same thing that several other people have already been trying to tell you for years.

It is amazing how much hate you have for other people who you think are too intense in arguing, when at the same time yourself has often acted equally as bad or worse than these people. But it looks like you are finally starting to work on this now so I am happy for you and I wish you will succeed. But do you still create multiple other fake accounts so you can start arguments with people without them knowing or blaming it on you? Like your Flowers of Adonis account that was very frequently trying to create arguments with me, and every time I was just thinking "Who is this person and why is he so intensely trying to create arguments with me when I have never talked to him or started any conversation with him?" You would come in with that account purposefully just to try to fight with me, and would be doing this very often. And I don't think that was your only other fake account.

I do not mind your intensity when it is combined with honesty, logic, and truth. And the ability to be open minded to take in more information, and use logic to interpret the information in a way to be always coming closer to truth. Which would very often end up being some kind of compromise between both people. But these do not seem to be often included and it is common for your comments to just seem intensely hateful and emotional. And in your emotional comments, you will write an argument containing multiple clear points, but if somebody responds to and answers every point of your argument to try to clarify or try to find some kind of compromise. You only jump to a completely different set of arguments without ever acknowledging anything about the points that were said before, and pretend that those things were never mentioned. And it gets to the point that you are changing the topic so frequently that it is impossible to respond to. It is difficult to believe that this is not on purpose as a way to try to shut down the other person and end the discussion. It may work for this purpose, but it does nothing towards actually trying to come together to find the truth or find any compromise.
 
In recent news, there is talk about updating Twitters verified user status to be subscription based.

https://www.rt.com/news/565640-twitter-musk-verification-subscription/

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Ol argedco luciftias said:
jrvan said:
I have some communication issues in my chart that I'm planning to do workings for next year which Blitzkreig JG has informed me of. Namely, it can cause me to come across as far more intense than I want to, even by accident.

This is exactly what I have been trying to tell you many times. And every time you have pretended that you are perfect and it must be me that has all the problems. So I am happy that you finally listened to Blitzkreig when he only told you the same thing that several other people have already been trying to tell you for years.

It is amazing how much hate you have for other people who you think are too intense in arguing, when at the same time yourself has often acted equally as bad or worse than these people. But it looks like you are finally starting to work on this now so I am happy for you and I wish you will succeed. But do you still create multiple other fake accounts so you can start arguments with people without them knowing or blaming it on you? Like your Flowers of Adonis account that was very frequently trying to create arguments with me, and every time I was just thinking "Who is this person and why is he so intensely trying to create arguments with me when I have never talked to him or started any conversation with him?" You would come in with that account purposefully just to try to fight with me, and would be doing this very often. And I don't think that was your only other fake account.

I do not mind your intensity when it is combined with honesty, logic, and truth. And the ability to be open minded to take in more information, and use logic to interpret the information in a way to be always coming closer to truth. Which would very often end up being some kind of compromise between both people. But these do not seem to be often included and it is common for your comments to just seem intensely hateful and emotional. And in your emotional comments, you will write an argument containing multiple clear points, but if somebody responds to and answers every point of your argument to try to clarify or try to find some kind of compromise. You only jump to a completely different set of arguments without ever acknowledging anything about the points that were said before, and pretend that those things were never mentioned. And it gets to the point that you are changing the topic so frequently that it is impossible to respond to. It is difficult to believe that this is not on purpose as a way to try to shut down the other person and end the discussion. It may work for this purpose, but it does nothing towards actually trying to come together to find the truth or find any compromise.

Don't care, didn't read, didn't ask. I have nothing to say to you other than to go fuck yourself.
 
jrvan said:
Don't care, didn't read, didn't ask. I have nothing to say to you other than to go fuck yourself.

There is your nice friendly attitude again.

Of course you love to mention other people like me or Jack in situations that are completely unrelated to us. But you hate when anything is said about you.
 
Addressing Ol's dumb comment:

My mention of Ol in my other comment was purposeful. It was meant for explanation. It was not meant as a provocation nor an invitation for comment by him, and he had no reason to reply.

I don't want him to get his way with baiting me and antagonizing me, so please everybody just ignore this situation and don't get involved. I'm choosing not to bother defending myself against his low level attacks. I don't want this drama on Halloween. Let him make a fool of himself, and let's all enjoy the holiday.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
jrvan said:
Don't care, didn't read, didn't ask. I have nothing to say to you other than to go fuck yourself.

There is your nice friendly attitude again.

Of course you love to mention other people like me or Jack in situations that are completely unrelated to us. But you hate when anything is said about you.

Jrvan shouldn't have said to "go fuck yourself", but he is correct in trying to avoid any argument here.

It is not that you do not make good points against him, but he is already aware about some of the difficulties and points of stress within his communications. He already admits his problems and therefore doesn't need to be confronted anymore.

This is something that he will have to take care of on his own. It won't be resolved through debate alone, nor can it be fixed instantly.

Nobody is perfect in this area, so it doesn't make sense to strongly pressure others about this. All you can do is point out your observations in a civil manner and hope that they take heed.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Ol argedco luciftias said:
jrvan said:
Don't care, didn't read, didn't ask. I have nothing to say to you other than to go fuck yourself.

There is your nice friendly attitude again.

Of course you love to mention other people like me or Jack in situations that are completely unrelated to us. But you hate when anything is said about you.

Jrvan shouldn't have said to "go fuck yourself", but he is correct in trying to avoid any argument here.

It is not that you do not make good points against him, but he is already aware about some of the difficulties and points of stress within his communications. He already admits his problems and therefore doesn't need to be confronted anymore.

This is something that he will have to take care of on his own. It won't be resolved through debate alone, nor can it be fixed instantly.

Nobody is perfect in this area, so it doesn't make sense to strongly pressure others about this. All you can do is point out your observations in a civil manner and hope that they take heed.

For the record, saying "go fuck yourself" was me being "nice." I've already said everything else before many times to Ol so there's nothing left to say, and it's low of him to dig up drama like this for yet another round which I refuse to engage in. Everyone knows what I think of him, everyone knows I resent him to say the least. What more is there to say? You have to have a valid reason for doing something, and he can't justify his antagonizing comments to me. My heart would love to say a whole lot more than "go fuck yourself," and I have every validation for it after the way he and others have treated me and my wife. But I'm not getting into it on our holiday, and if he tries to start shit with me in the future when I haven't done anything wrong then I think he should be punished. If he's wise then he should just leave me and Tabby alone. I don't want his advice, I don't want his commentary. I want nothing from him.

Happy Halloween, Blitzkreig
 
jrvan said:
My mention of Ol in my other comment was purposeful. It was meant for explanation. It was not meant as a provocation nor an invitation for comment by him, and he had no reason to reply.

You start shit by saying bad things about me first for no reason. Today is the first time in months that I said anything to you or about you except for a few nice things that I even said to you. But you just couldn't stop from mentioning me and trying to start shit. Then you pretend to be the victim when I answer you. Absolute classic rat behaviour. "The jew cries in pain as he strikes you." If you don't want me to answer you then don't bring me into the discussion by saying my name.

There are many things that I could use you as the example for, but I don't do this. There are multiple things I could say about you and your past actions that would be perfect to use as an example of what not to do. But I have purposefully been careful to respect you in the past few months by not saying anything about you or your past actions because I know you hate when anybody mentions something about your past.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
jrvan said:
I have some communication issues in my chart that I'm planning to do workings for next year which Blitzkreig JG has informed me of. Namely, it can cause me to come across as far more intense than I want to, even by accident.

This is exactly what I have been trying to tell you many times. And every time you have pretended that you are perfect and it must be me that has all the problems. So I am happy that you finally listened to Blitzkreig when he only told you the same thing that several other people have already been trying to tell you for years.

It is amazing how much hate you have for other people who you think are too intense in arguing, when at the same time yourself has often acted equally as bad or worse than these people. But it looks like you are finally starting to work on this now so I am happy for you and I wish you will succeed. But do you still create multiple other fake accounts so you can start arguments with people without them knowing or blaming it on you? Like your Flowers of Adonis account that was very frequently trying to create arguments with me, and every time I was just thinking "Who is this person and why is he so intensely trying to create arguments with me when I have never talked to him or started any conversation with him?" You would come in with that account purposefully just to try to fight with me, and would be doing this very often. And I don't think that was your only other fake account.

I do not mind your intensity when it is combined with honesty, logic, and truth. And the ability to be open minded to take in more information, and use logic to interpret the information in a way to be always coming closer to truth. Which would very often end up being some kind of compromise between both people. But these do not seem to be often included and it is common for your comments to just seem intensely hateful and emotional. And in your emotional comments, you will write an argument containing multiple clear points, but if somebody responds to and answers every point of your argument to try to clarify or try to find some kind of compromise. You only jump to a completely different set of arguments without ever acknowledging anything about the points that were said before, and pretend that those things were never mentioned. And it gets to the point that you are changing the topic so frequently that it is impossible to respond to. It is difficult to believe that this is not on purpose as a way to try to shut down the other person and end the discussion. It may work for this purpose, but it does nothing towards actually trying to come together to find the truth or find any compromise.

Uh oh, not again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoSJCzLlgk0
 
jrvan said:
For the record, saying "go fuck yourself" was me being "nice." I've already said everything else before many times to Ol so there's nothing left to say, and it's low of him to dig up drama like this for yet another round which I refuse to engage in. Everyone knows what I think of him, everyone knows I resent him to say the least. What more is there to say? You have to have a valid reason for doing something, and he can't justify his antagonizing comments to me. My heart would love to say a whole lot more than "go fuck yourself," and I have every validation for it after the way he and others have treated me and my wife. But I'm not getting into it on our holiday, and if he tries to start shit with me in the future when I haven't done anything wrong then I think he should be punished. If he's wise then he should just leave me and Tabby alone. I don't want his advice, I don't want his commentary. I want nothing from him.

Happy Halloween, Blitzkreig

If this is how you feel about someone, then it is best that you put them on your ignore list.

Everyone is aware that any back-and-forth arguments require huge amounts of time to resolve, even if they are resolved. Therefore, even if you feel like some respect is lost by an insult left unanswered, you also gain respect from others who notice your attempts to defuse the situation, as well.

Personally, I am not interested with hunting down the evidence of who "struck first". I am more interested in present day conduct.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
jrvan said:
My mention of Ol in my other comment was purposeful. It was meant for explanation. It was not meant as a provocation nor an invitation for comment by him, and he had no reason to reply.

You start shit by saying bad things about me first for no reason. Today is the first time in months that I said anything to you or about you except for a few nice things that I even said to you. But you just couldn't stop from mentioning me and trying to start shit. Then you pretend to be the victim when I answer you. Absolute classic rat behaviour. "The jew cries in pain as he strikes you." If you don't want me to answer you then don't bring me into the discussion by saying my name.

There are many things that I could use you as the example for, but I don't do this. There are multiple things I could say about you and your past actions that would be perfect to use as an example of what not to do. But I have purposefully been careful to respect you in the past few months by not saying anything about you or your past actions because I know you hate when anybody mentions something about your past.

OH REALLY!?

You WERE a FUCKING ASSHOLE to me and Tabby in the past!!! That's not saying bad things about you, it's literally a fact. If the truth hurts you so badly then maybe you're the fucking jew! Stop insinuating that I'm a jew. The only one trying to start shit here is you. Just stop.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Personally, I am not interested with hunting down the evidence of who "struck first". I am more interested in present day conduct.

Okay I will make it easy. For multiple months I have ignored him and not said anything to him. Except for a small number of compliments and nice things that I said to him.

Then today or yesterday he started in this topic by saying bad things about me. You can go to Page 1 and see him mentioning me first.

I am not here to start it, and for months I have ignored him. But if he is going to start something by saying my name first, I will answer to it. But the professional victim has to always pretend to be the victim.
 
Mars Retrograde can create extreme frustration, anger and repressed feelings. Breathe it out and ignore it for the sake of healthiness.

We are here for each other, we all do our rituals, we all have imperfections, mistakes, regrets, ego, aims. Put it aside for US here, as we are special here.

I love you all. I go make some rituals for our Gods. Bless up and laugh about this!
 
Everyone calm down.

@Jrvan if you mention someone of course they will have to react accordingly. Perhaps you can just ignore each other. We have enough enemies outside. We don't need to be enemies here too.

I hope you can bury the hatchet someday.
 
Blackdragon666 [JG said:
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Everyone calm down.

@Jrvan if you mention someone of course they will have to react accordingly. Perhaps you can just ignore each other. We have enough enemies outside. We don't need to be enemies here too.

I hope you can bury the hatchet someday.

Everyone tells me to "just ignore it" when I respond to direct quotes, but Ol responds when he wasn't even quoted and nobody tells him to "just ignore it" and on top of it he gets validated?

This is injustice.
 
With Neuralink succesfully brain microchipping pigs and Elon Musk bragging about his Neuralink progress I don't trust him at all
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1561608534629965826

If anybody remembers that opening ceremony with tens of people dressed in clowns and monsters in inaugurating that tunnel in Switzerland where many politicians, jews and rich people met, there was a similar event taking place at the Bran Castle in Romania where Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and many other billionaires and rich people met to celebrate and discuss their bullshit achievements, same with tens of people dressed in clowns and monsters fooling around in a very similar fashion to what happened in that tunnel inauguration.

Elon Musk is part of this society of rich people that work in the interests of the jews so I don't have a single doubt anymore that he ever had any good intentions. His company Neuralink is one of the most advanced in the world in brain research and their position is obvious from when you open their website.
https://neuralink.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuralink

They want to connect the human brain to the artificial intelligence. His reason is to "treat mental diseases" but similar bullshit has been said about many other things that proven to be bery harmful for humanity. We know very well where this brain microchipping is going to lead in the end, and Elon Musk is at the very center of this research the jews do to turn people into greys. At this point not only that I don't believe he is going to confer more free speech to twitter, but he will probably destroy the little free speech that is still left. He is a man of the enemy.
 
A Jew Is A Jew. Is That not What We've Been Taught? All the greatness he does will be turned against us. Inevitably. Whether or not he knows it he works for the greys. Simple as that I'd say.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Personally, I am not interested with hunting down the evidence of who "struck first". I am more interested in present day conduct.

Okay I will make it easy. For multiple months I have ignored him and not said anything to him. Except for a small number of compliments and nice things that I said to him.

Then today or yesterday he started in this topic by saying bad things about me. You can go to Page 1 and see him mentioning me first.

I am not here to start it, and for months I have ignored him. But if he is going to start something by saying my name first, I will answer to it. But the professional victim has to always pretend to be the victim.

Is what Jrvan said in passing this much of a cause for the intensity of your own reactions to it though?

I'm not sure if that's a call for you to attempt planting thought-seeds that my partner has any connection with the enemy or whatever by exaggerating about Jrvan's secondary account he made once, bringing people up like Meteor, and rubbing salt in wounds that would obviously cause a flare reaction of his own towards you in turn, if you know him at all from your past experiences with each other... What's the point of all that, if not to deliberately cause an emotional reaction in him and blame him for it or something?

As they say, there are two sides to every coin. You can take care of your own side of things as well to prevent escalation, can you not? Where you beat down on Jrvan for his communication struggles, one could do the same for you. Jrvan already knows what he needs to work on and is in the works leading up to it, let him take care of that, and leave yourself out of it rather than holding things over his head as if that will help anything.... Take others advice and your own for that matter.

I personally have no love for the advice of "ignore it", so I offer an alternative for anyone it could be useful for... there is always another way to do a thing, in this case being communication... question is, is anyone willing to search for it and apply it? We expect the ones who are open and obvious in their struggles to do so, while the rest walk away from the situation. But EVERYONE struggles in communication in one way or another, and it can always be improved on from all sides of the coin. Everyone has flaws and problems. No matter what's happening in the given situation. It's easy to say for people to ignore something... it's easy to say let it go and go somewhere else. But it's not that easy, especially not for people who still have many many years of advancing to do.

I'm about to take this in an off direction. We are all born under 12 different influences of the zodiac, and many different influences of the planets. Those influences are rearranged again and again billions of times for every individual. Yet there is a pattern that the same flat advice we give to everyone, we expect it to work and be applied each time. We pat ourselves on the back and think how helpful we are when someone uses it, but get angry when others don't listen or don't use what we say, regardless if it would in reality be helpful for that individual at that time or not. Are they wrong... no. Should we shame them for it... no. So why do we? Can we accept people for not being like us? For having different natures, for reacting differently, for doing things differently? We're not the same.

Yet to me from what I can see... we subconsciously push each other to be like ourselves. We pass blame onto any we can to label the black sheep that doesn't follow our own ideal version of the status quo, maybe so the ego doesn't have to look at its own flaws. The ego wants to shine, and if fed without discipline it burns whoever else is around it. We burn our egos out until there's only one standing and the rest bowing, or nothing left. Some egos even burn themselves, just to avoid the ugly things it doesn't want to accept inside itself. Rejection of ourselves, rejection of anyone different from us. Basic refusal to harmonise and allow room for what is different. Because it's easy... it's just simply easier to crush what is different instead of learning to balance with it and harmonise. It doesn't take much mental effort to ruin and upset things, but it takes a lot of time, hard work and facing things head on, to build things that are beautiful, healthy, strong...

That's what the enemy wants... because the longer we can't accept the natures and ways of each other the longer we go on not learning how we even fit together in harmony in the massive family we have under Satan.

Anyway... today is Samhain, I wish everyone a well day. And I doubt this didn't happen by influence of the enemy wanting to cause anger and restlessness among our place to disrupt any positivity these holiday's provide us. I might regret saying anything here, I know it can fuel fire. So I ask for the lesson to be taken for what it is, and that I am not solely speaking to you Ol, but using this as a platform to voice my feelings on matters that I believe are the most common reason for forum upset.
 
tabby said:
As they say, there are two sides to every coin. You can take care of your own side of things as well to prevent escalation, can you not? Where you beat down on Jrvan for his communication struggles, one could do the same for you. Jrvan already knows what he needs to work on and is in the works leading up to it, let him take care of that, and leave yourself out of it rather than holding things over his head as if that will help anything.... Take others advice and your own for that matter.

I personally have no love for the advice of "ignore it", so I offer an alternative for anyone it could be useful for... there is always another way to do a thing, in this case being communication... question is, is anyone willing to search for it and apply it? We expect the ones who are open and obvious in their struggles to do so, while the rest walk away from the situation. But EVERYONE struggles in communication in one way or another, and it can always be improved on from all sides of the coin. Everyone has flaws and problems. No matter what's happening in the given situation. It's easy to say for people to ignore something... it's easy to say let it go and go somewhere else. But it's not that easy, especially not for people who still have many many years of advancing to do.

The advice of "ignore it" is basically a temporary solution that helps the situation before all these other factors can be accounted for. If it prevents 50% of time-wasting arguments, then it has proven to be useful. It does not need to be perfect.

In regards to any sort of infighting or communal stress, Wunjo is the best rune for this, as it covers aspects of communications, emotions, and are ability to relate. This covers over multiple planets and treats the source problem, which is the ability to harmonize within a group.

Therefore, even if there are problems with the exact exchange of words, or if tempers flare, then a person may still wish to be diplomatic, eventually loving, at a later date. This is how you can account for a variety of factors which may cause stress, within the context of group relations.

Wunjo
 
jrvan said:
Everyone tells me to "just ignore it" when I respond to direct quotes, but Ol responds when he wasn't even quoted and nobody tells him to "just ignore it" and on top of it he gets validated?

This is injustice.

Yes, you are right. Ol Argedco should not have correlated Meteor to you, or other insinuations of being Jewish. These are purely insulting and could have been avoided for the sake of any constructive progress.

Although I don't like going down the list of attacks to finally figure out who is justified, we can at least point at specific examples of what shouldn't have been done.

Ol argedco luciftias said:
 
jrvan said:
Everyone tells me to "just ignore it" when I respond to direct quotes, but Ol responds when he wasn't even quoted and nobody tells him to "just ignore it" and on top of it he gets validated?

This is injustice.

You're the one that started it. It's that simple.

Listen to Tabby. She is very smart and I know she will be able to help you.
 
jrvan said:
Blackdragon666 [JG said:
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Everyone calm down.

@Jrvan if you mention someone of course they will have to react accordingly. Perhaps you can just ignore each other. We have enough enemies outside. We don't need to be enemies here too.

I hope you can bury the hatchet someday.

Everyone tells me to "just ignore it" when I respond to direct quotes, but Ol responds when he wasn't even quoted and nobody tells him to "just ignore it" and on top of it he gets validated?

This is injustice.

I'm not really siding with anyone Brother as I don't know the whole story and I believe everyone is telling the truth, since you are both respected SS. What I meant was that he got mentioned and definitely had a right to respond to that. Besides that I am not biased against you in any way. I actually like you.

If you can't get along then feel free to hide each other's posts. It's way better than the frustration you're going through.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
jrvan said:
Everyone tells me to "just ignore it" when I respond to direct quotes, but Ol responds when he wasn't even quoted and nobody tells him to "just ignore it" and on top of it he gets validated?

This is injustice.

You're the one that started it. It's that simple.

Listen to Tabby. She is very smart and I know she will be able to help you.

It's not that simple, and you're full of shit. Don't tell me what to do, and don't talk to me. I don't care about any of this because it's just the same old nonsense. Just leave me the fuck alone and drop it already.
 
Blackdragon666 [JG said:
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jrvan said:
Blackdragon666 [JG said:
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Everyone calm down.

@Jrvan if you mention someone of course they will have to react accordingly. Perhaps you can just ignore each other. We have enough enemies outside. We don't need to be enemies here too.

I hope you can bury the hatchet someday.

Everyone tells me to "just ignore it" when I respond to direct quotes, but Ol responds when he wasn't even quoted and nobody tells him to "just ignore it" and on top of it he gets validated?

This is injustice.

I'm not really siding with anyone Brother as I don't know the whole story and I believe everyone is telling the truth, since you are both respected SS. What I meant was that he got mentioned and definitely had a right to respond to that. Besides that I am not biased against you in any way. I actually like you.

If you can't get along then feel free to hide each other's posts. It's way better than the frustration you're going through.

I understand now. Thank you for explaining.

In the past, this would have been 100x more heated because of my reactions and prolonging things, but I'm trying my best to not feed into this. He's making it very hard for me, digging up irrelevant things from the past to attack me with... which I did ignore. I've ignored a lot in this thread from him, but I felt I couldn't ignore the crap he said about me being jewish. I keep giving him the cue to back off and let it die, but he keeps going and keeps quoting me.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
jrvan said:
Everyone tells me to "just ignore it" when I respond to direct quotes, but Ol responds when he wasn't even quoted and nobody tells him to "just ignore it" and on top of it he gets validated?

This is injustice.

You're the one that started it. It's that simple.

Listen to Tabby. She is very smart and I know she will be able to help you.

That's beside the point and pushing non-issues now.

Please don't place myself above my partner or vice versa in that way. Jrvan has been my teacher for many years beyond being my partner, and I do my best to aid him in turn. He has his strengths and weaknesses, and I have mine. We both fill in where the other has gaps. Neither means either one of us is lesser or better to the other at all. I'd be a fraction of where I am in growth now if not for him, and that's because he works with me and who I am as a person, rather than trying to mold or shove me into an image that works against myself.

All I did in my previous comment was state what I felt in a manner I hope displays exactly that.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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