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I am helpless. I really want to advance but i can't.

Anya1

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I've done the commitment ritual 3 years ago. Since that time, no matter how much I try, I can't advance. I never manifested something. I can't focus while meditating. I constantly have the feeling that I'm doing it wrong. My mind heavily runs based on logic and science, and sometimes I feel like aall of it pseudoscience even though deep down I still have that faith. I had so much doubts I literally tried to move out of zevism and read some texts and stuff and the next day I was crying because I didn't mean anything and I felt like I committed an unforgettable thing and I'm gonna be banished from zevism or something. I still have that heavy guilt for that one emotional action. And all the time, always, I just want a way to communicate with gods. I need signs. Signs that they are not mad at me. I don't know. I feel so bad. I feel like a bad follower/worshipper. I feel so bad that so many times I tried to gain things for myself instead putting most of my energy for him. But I could never quite get anything through manifestation so I guess even if I tried to commit my energy to him it would be useless. I can't do anything for myself, how can I do something for him?
I feel so powerless and insignificant. The fact that there are so many ways yet I seem like to be failing is driving me crazy. I can't do anything properly.
I even feel bad because a week ago I was again questioning everything because I was literally thinking that the gods couldn't possibly have chromosomes, so how do they even exist? How do they have genders?
I need clarity. Clarity on everything. On a path. On deities.
Sorry to write such a long post. But I couldn't keep these to myself. I really, really love and adore Zeus. I was drawn to him from the beginning. I used to write beautiful pieces for him. But all the time. Never I saw a sign. And I never advanced. I did some basic meditations but I got lost. I feel like no one hears me.
 
Even writing this text, I'm crying and shaking. I just want to be perfect for gods. I feel like I've made too much mistakes and neglected too much to be able to be good now. I don't even know where or how to start. There are so many things. So many meditations. So many rituals. Of course I can not do rituals. Because I can't even properly use my energy. It would be useless and just add to the huge stack of mistakes I had.
 
Always there is this "how can I be sure" thing for me. As I said my mind operates in a very logical way.
So for example when I constantly apologize for having doubts or wierd thoughts like the ones about their chromosomes, even though I know Zeus is forgiving, yet I still think how can I be sure I'm forgiven?
How can I be sure that he is not mad now?
How can I be sure I won't be punished or something?

If there was only a way to be able to communicate with him...I'd try. I'd try and try to reach that point. At this point only directly communicating with him could ease all of these.
 
I wrote so much i feel like nobody would ever read it. I'm sorry. I am very overwhelmed now. Dear priests/priesttess please help me out.
 
no matter how much I try, I can't advance.
First of all, stop thinking that, the more you believe in that the move you will start thinking its real and tuning to it.
I never manifested something.
That is impossible, intend a shower and go do it, done, you manifested your first thing,

Have small things, make them bigger, you can have long term goal, but also have medium and shorter term goals. And farm signs, for example you want to manifest a girlfriend, a girl holds eye contact with you = a sign that your technique is working, do not see it as binary either it works either not, see it as a process. And also do the things that you should do to get there and focus on doing them better.
I can't focus while meditating.
Thats normal
I constantly have the feeling that I'm doing it wrong.
You are doing it perfectly, when you lose focus etc and you bring your focus back, that is meditating, you keep going back again and again and again. The more you do it the less it will happen. Your body also may start wanting to get up and stop meditating, so it does not feel ´pleasant’ this is also normal,

Since you are conditioning yourself, you are doing something new, if you spend 3min like this, then its perfect, most important thing is to keep going back and ignore urges of your body to stop the meditation, the urge to get up when you ignore it you are disciplining yourself.
My mind heavily runs based on logic and science, and sometimes I feel like aall of it pseudoscience even though deep down I still have that faith.
It does not matter, just do the practices, you will know its true, but keep daily, for 5-10min either reading testomonials, or things that prove this is real, keep this going daily.
I had so much doubts I literally tried to move out of zevism and read some texts and stuff and the next day I was crying because I didn't mean anything and I felt like I committed an unforgettable thing and I'm gonna be banished from zevism or something.
Try a Summoning, and if you know your guardian God, talk to him about this, it will form a relation between you and you will start feeling closer to him/her.
I still have that heavy guilt for that one emotional action.
Guilt by the way is one of the worst feelings one can feel, drop it completely. Ask for forgiveness if you feel you should, and drop instantly the guilt. Never keep carrying the guilt around.
And all the time, always, I just want a way to communicate with gods. I need signs. Signs that they are not mad at me. I don't know. I feel so bad.
Do a summoning, or do the God rituals, it will be pleasant, you will know everything is okay
I feel like a bad follower/worshipper.
You are manifesting being a bad person, no wonder you feel there is a sabotage, you are doing it, reverse this, start being grateful and happy that you are a good Zevist, and feel like it. You clearly are a good person.
I feel so bad that so many times I tried to gain things for myself instead putting most of my energy for him. But I could never quite get anything through manifestation so I guess even if I tried to commit my energy to him it would be useless. I can't do anything for myself, how can I do something for him?
Who?
I feel so powerless and insignificant.
Meditate, do the techniques, focus your mind on good things, do affirmations, if you keep feeling insignificant and powerless you are actively manifesting it.
The fact that there are so many ways yet I seem like to be failing is driving me crazy. I can't do anything properly.
You are constantly affirming opposite of what you want, try just for 40 days to flip that, the difference will be big, try to monitor your thinking and feelings, i do not say feel bliss, but try to get little better each day.
I even feel bad because a week ago I was again questioning everything because I was literally thinking that the gods couldn't possibly have chromosomes, so how do they even exist? How do they have genders?
I need clarity. Clarity on everything. On a path. On deities.
You will learn more by practice rather by theory, so rituals, do summonings, and read ToZ, experiences will teach you more
Sorry to write such a long post. But I couldn't keep these to myself. I really, really love and adore Zeus. I was drawn to him from the beginning. I used to write beautiful pieces for him. But all the time. Never I saw a sign.
I do not know what you expect the signs will be, but those usually are subtle, you should be aware and constantly try to detect them, and then you will start bit by bit detecting them, also read members experiences, it will program your mind to detect those when they happen
And I never advanced. I did some basic meditations but I got lost. I feel like no one hears me.
Why you want someone to hear you? Just do the practices and keep improving, its more about your improvement rather than seing a sign, do not see the path in passive way, be active.

Even writing this text, I'm crying and shaking.
Continue crying do not hold back, until you finish, you will feel better.
I just want to be perfect for gods. I feel like I've made too much mistakes and neglected too much to be able to be good now.
Thats false, the fact you are too emotional means you can do pretty good in the path.
I don't even know where or how to start.
Take a shower, cook some beautiful food, eat, have a small meditation, start doing the 40 days program,

Start thinking better thoughts and feeling better feelings, stop inflicting self damage,

Next time you want to say something that intense to Gods, do a summoning, for example of God Zeus, it will be way better than posting in forum, you will be also learning to do summonings, and also learning to do visualisation.

So this will be channeled into making you advance more
There are so many things. So many meditations. So many rituals.
I used to think that about meditation, when i started i found i was overthinking,

Start with 40 days program, its very small program, do you have it ? If not , ask about it and a member will give you the link to it
Of course I can not do rituals. Because I can't even properly use my energy.
No thats a mistake, just go for it, do the ritual, the fact you are too emotional i believe you will feel yourself tuning to Gods, anyway whether you feel or not, just do it, with openness. Try to experiment, do not keep being passive.
It would be useless and just add to the huge stack of mistakes I had.
It is not only okay but very good to start doing rituals, even if you do mistakes. You will do many of them anyway, same as all members. Just start and keep practicing.


Always there is this "how can I be sure" thing for me. As I said my mind operates in a very logical way.
So for example when I constantly apologize for having doubts or wierd thoughts like the ones about their chromosomes, even though I know Zeus is forgiving, yet I still think how can I be sure I'm forgiven?
How can I be sure that he is not mad now?
How can I be sure I won't be punished or something?
Do Summoning and Rituals
If there was only a way to be able to communicate with him...I'd try. I'd try and try to reach that point. At this point only directly communicating with him could ease all of these.
When you will do summonings and rituals it will help a lot with what you are saying here. Since the experiences will be pleasant.

The Gods see your true intention, its not like a human who will judge based on the surface. I did bigger mistakes than yours by the way, and everything is ok, because i never had bad intentions. Same way you have no bad intention.

In fact in Zevism its not a problem if you doubt, in opposite of religions when you never get a sense of reality of the Gods, in Zevism it will happen, just a matter of time, you will know they are real. And its normal that your faith will get better bit by bit, just keep practicing.
 
If you meditate daily you advance spiritually even if you don't see it. It just takes a lot of time till you are able to have advanced/great success. For comunicating with them you need to open your soul if you haven't trough chakra opening meditations, if you want to talk to them try it first though the Ouija board, Tarot and pendulum, they work, you just have to believe in it.

And do the Freeing The Mind From Christianity & Islam: A Mandatory Step
 
When you will do summonings and rituals it will help a lot with what you are saying here. Since the experiences will be pleasant.

The Gods see your true intention, its not like a human who will judge based on the surface. I did bigger mistakes than yours by the way, and everything is ok, because i never had bad intentions. Same way you have no bad intention.

In fact in Zevism its not a problem if you doubt, in opposite of religions when you never get a sense of reality of the Gods, in Zevism it will happen, just a matter of time, you will know they are real. And its normal that your faith will get better bit by bit, just keep practicing.
Thank you for reading it. The thing is, even if I do summoning, what if I disappoint them? What if i think/say something wrong? Who should I summon?

Between all gods, I don't know if it's worng to say this, since I am a human and they are gods, but I feel closest to Lord Apollo.

Yet there is something, the amount of pure unwavering adoration I have for Lord Zeus and had it since I became a Zevist is something that I can't describe with words. He is the light that shines upon my soul and helps me navigate through life. Lord Zeus is so great, so glorious, so excellent, so mighty, so flawless, so kind, so powerful, just so perfect, that i feel so afraid of trying and failing, clearly it's my problem, that I feel like that I have to be constantly perfect, but I can't shake it off. I know he is very kind and forgiving, but the problem is me. I try so hard yet I always feel like I have to apologize.
 
If you meditate daily you advance spiritually even if you don't see it. It just takes a lot of time till you are able to have advanced/great success. For comunicating with them you need to open your soul if you haven't trough chakra opening meditations, if you want to talk to them try it first though the Ouija board, Tarot and pendulum, they work, you just have to believe in it.

And do the Freeing The Mind From Christianity & Islam: A Mandatory Step
Thank you, but the thing is, I can't be sure of something when I can't see it. Like I feel so good after meditating, so full of energy, but still my mind starts questioning couldn't it just be neurological and because of relaxing and lower blood pressure?
That's why I say that I need a sign or to communicate with them. Thank you for your advice. I will definitely try one of them.
 
Thank you for reading it. The thing is, even if I do summoning, what if I disappoint them? What if i think/say something wrong? Who should I summon?
I did think wrong things before, i just apologized and told them sorry for what i thought and just talked naturally and expressed myself truly, thats how i started, also when thinking the wrong thing, they did no reaction, the interaction kept going with same vibe, they know you, do not worry

You do not have to read a script, the Gods value true intention and honesty, just go for it, do your best, you will improve with time.
Between all gods, I don't know if it's worng to say this, since I am a human and they are gods, but I feel closest to Lord Apollo.
Thats good, the fact you feel closeness to certain Gods more than others signals you are open. Its normal to feel drawn to certain Gods
Yet there is something, the amount of pure unwavering adoration I have for Lord Zeus and had it since I became a Zevist is something that I can't describe with words. He is the light that shines upon my soul and helps me navigate through life. Lord Zeus is so great, so glorious, so excellent, so mighty, so flawless, so kind, so powerful, just so perfect, that i feel so afraid of trying and failing, clearly it's my problem, that I feel like that I have to be constantly perfect, but I can't shake it off. I know he is very kind and forgiving, but the problem is me. I try so hard yet I always feel like I have to apologize.
You need to do more rituals and connect to Gods more thats how you will learn,

This is very personal, you will learn more by reaching out to God Zeus rather than just reading other members experience, do today a summoning or a ritual, just go for it do not overthink a lot.

Do your best, stop feeling guilt, and start building your personal relation with the Gods. Know that it will be a very pleasant experience.

May the Gods bless you🙏🏻
 
I've done the commitment ritual 3 years ago. Since that time, no matter how much I try, I can't advance. I never manifested something. I can't focus while meditating. I constantly have the feeling that I'm doing it wrong. My mind heavily runs based on logic and science, and sometimes I feel like aall of it pseudoscience even though deep down I still have that faith. I had so much doubts I literally tried to move out of zevism and read some texts and stuff and the next day I was crying because I didn't mean anything and I felt like I committed an unforgettable thing and I'm gonna be banished from zevism or something. I still have that heavy guilt for that one emotional action. And all the time, always, I just want a way to communicate with gods. I need signs. Signs that they are not mad at me. I don't know. I feel so bad. I feel like a bad follower/worshipper. I feel so bad that so many times I tried to gain things for myself instead putting most of my energy for him. But I could never quite get anything through manifestation so I guess even if I tried to commit my energy to him it would be useless. I can't do anything for myself, how can I do something for him?
I feel so powerless and insignificant. The fact that there are so many ways yet I seem like to be failing is driving me crazy. I can't do anything properly.
I even feel bad because a week ago I was again questioning everything because I was literally thinking that the gods couldn't possibly have chromosomes, so how do they even exist? How do they have genders?
I need clarity. Clarity on everything. On a path. On deities.
Sorry to write such a long post. But I couldn't keep these to myself. I really, really love and adore Zeus. I was drawn to him from the beginning. I used to write beautiful pieces for him. But all the time. Never I saw a sign. And I never advanced. I did some basic meditations but I got lost. I feel like no one hears me.
Hi 👋
You are certainly not helpless, you are exactly whatever you believe you are....so please start there.
There are many posts by Clergy and members of their journey and not feeling anything when they started, this is normal.
What it really comes down to is, do you trust the Gods? Everything you need is here, all the tools, I encourage you to stick with it and trust the process. That self doubt is what's holding you back.
I truly wish you peace and growth in your journey.
 
Thank you, but the thing is, I can't be sure of something when I can't see it. Like I feel so good after meditating, so full of energy, but still my mind starts questioning couldn't it just be neurological and because of relaxing and lower blood pressure?
That's why I say that I need a sign or to communicate with them. Thank you for your advice. I will definitely try one of them.
I don't want to be rude but can't you be sure of one thing, if you do phisiacal exercise and after a while you see your muscles growing, then don't you just put the question, isn't it just the food and water that my muscles are grown? Yeah it is food and water but also that you train. I understand that no communication and not seeing them is hard, so put some work in communicating with them! There are also scientific pictures taken from peoples auras, and shows that people do have such things as auras. It's a good example that what we talk aboit is real and not just bullshit. I am a believer because i tried spiritual stuffs till they happened and at that point i knew for sure that it works and that it's real and no one in the world can change the fact that it's true because i have spiritual experiences that are real and they can be explained by science as well if just the people would research and do tests scientifically in that direction. Scientists don't know everything they know only a half of reality but even so not the full amount and the spiritual part they don't know.
 
I felt annoyed reading this. You don’t have to be a slave. You have the spark inside of you. I have always been pragmatic. Science exist. Gods exists. And yes. It is neurological. Yes, there is different patterns in the brain that happens when you meditate. And yes, if you hear something, the part of your brain that processes audio will react and will flare up.

Yes, it is «science». But that stops at physical observation. Not why it all happens. Not why you hear a voice or see a vision. That without a person there, it activates.

I think it can be explained by science one day. Alot of things we call magic now, is the science of the future in my mind. Alot in the occult tradition for example is seen now as psychological technoques. It doesn’t mean «its not real» just because you slapped on some new modern labels.
 
I felt annoyed reading this. You don’t have to be a slave. You have the spark inside of you. I have always been pragmatic. Science exist. Gods exists. And yes. It is neurological. Yes, there is different patterns in the brain that happens when you meditate. And yes, if you hear something, the part of your brain that processes audio will react and will flare up.

Yes, it is «science». But that stops at physical observation. Not why it all happens. Not why you hear a voice or see a vision. That without a person there, it activates.

I think it can be explained by science one day. Alot of things we call magic now, is the science of the future in my mind. Alot in the occult tradition for example is seen now as psychological technoques. It doesn’t mean «its not real» just because you slapped on some new modern labels.
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I felt annoyed reading this. You don’t have to be a slave. You have the spark inside of you. I have always been pragmatic. Science exist. Gods exists. And yes. It is neurological. Yes, there is different patterns in the brain that happens when you meditate. And yes, if you hear something, the part of your brain that processes audio will react and will flare up.

Yes, it is «science». But that stops at physical observation. Not why it all happens. Not why you hear a voice or see a vision. That without a person there, it activates.

I think it can be explained by science one day. Alot of things we call magic now, is the science of the future in my mind. Alot in the occult tradition for example is seen now as psychological technoques. It doesn’t mean «its not real» just because you slapped on some new modern labels.
I'm sorry that you felt annoyed, but I was clearly sharing my struggles, I didn't mean to attack anything or anyone.
 
I don't want to be rude but can't you be sure of one thing, if you do phisiacal exercise and after a while you see your muscles growing, then don't you just put the question, isn't it just the food and water that my muscles are grown? Yeah it is food and water but also that you train. I understand that no communication and not seeing them is hard, so put some work in communicating with them! There are also scientific pictures taken from peoples auras, and shows that people do have such things as auras. It's a good example that what we talk aboit is real and not just bullshit. I am a believer because i tried spiritual stuffs till they happened and at that point i knew for sure that it works and that it's real and no one in the world can change the fact that it's true because i have spiritual experiences that are real and they can be explained by science as well if just the people would research and do tests scientifically in that direction. Scientists don't know everything they know only a half of reality but even so not the full amount and the spiritual part they don't know.

Well as for my muscles I know my extent. I know my muscles. But I don't know if I'm doing spiritual advancement right or not. That is what holds me back. Maybe I'm not doing well. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. Maybe I am not doing the actual meditation but I think I did it. What I can surely say is that I have small amounts of control over my energy and I can't focus well. So it's possible that I do everything wrong. I am not saying that I don't believe in spiritual advancement, if i didn't I wouldn't be here, that is why I quite don't understand why some might feel that I am questioning them or feel attacked. what I am saying is that I don't believe that I am doing things right. I don't think i improved or shown any capibility. I said that the problem is me.
 
Hello. Please keep in mind that the Gods are not petty beings. They're well above the level of being angry or resentful because X person didn't do their meditations or had some intrusive thoughts. There is 0 reason to beat yourself up over wondering if the Gods have chromosomes. It might be a stupid question, but you did not commit a crime. No one is banishing you from Zevism for some thoughts you had. The Gods also do not want slavish worship. This image that you relate - of the Gods punishing you because you're not "worshipping" Them properly, seems awfully similar to christianity to me, especially since you mention you've constantly asked Them for forgiveness for simple questions and thoughts. I think you should clean yourself.

As for your temporary lack of results, that's nothing tragic or shocking. Many people progress slowly. You're not broken or inapt. It also depends on whether you're actually being consistent. But besides, you seem to be hyper-analyzing everything and worrying about doing it wrong, and that can be a blockage in itself. You might be spending your time wondering if you're meditating correctly instead of actually meditating and immersing yourself in it. That will numb your senses, and will keep you tense and stressed. It also gets you stuck in (over)using your left brain hemisphere. For trance and most meditations and rituals, you have to quiet that hemisphere down and tune into the right one. Once you get your results, you will, like many others, have your doubts dissolve naturally.

So many rituals. Of course I can not do rituals.
Yes, you can do Rituals. Don't expect epiphanies by tomorrow morning, but know that they connect you to the Gods and are beneficial for your soul. You could join the VT platform. Ritual schedules are held there.
 
Hello. Please keep in mind that the Gods are not petty beings. They're well above the level of being angry or resentful because X person didn't do their meditations or had some intrusive thoughts. There is 0 reason to beat yourself up over wondering if the Gods have chromosomes. It might be a stupid question, but you did not commit a crime. No one is banishing you from Zevism for some thoughts you had. The Gods also do not want slavish worship. This image that you relate - of the Gods punishing you because you're not "worshipping" Them properly, seems awfully similar to christianity to me, especially since you mention you've constantly asked Them for forgiveness for simple questions and thoughts. I think you should clean yourself.

As for your temporary lack of results, that's nothing tragic or shocking. Many people progress slowly. You're not broken or inapt. It also depends on whether you're actually being consistent. But besides, you seem to be hyper-analyzing everything and worrying about doing it wrong, and that can be a blockage in itself. You might be spending your time wondering if you're meditating correctly instead of actually meditating and immersing yourself in it. That will numb your senses, and will keep you tense and stressed. It also gets you stuck in (over)using your left brain hemisphere. For trance and most meditations and rituals, you have to quiet that hemisphere down and tune into the right one. Once you get your results, you will, like many others, have your doubts dissolve naturally.


Yes, you can do Rituals. Don't expect epiphanies by tomorrow morning, but know that they connect you to the Gods and are beneficial for your soul. You could join the VT platform. Ritual schedules are held there.

Thank you for your response, yes, i actually do hyper analyze everything, and I overall think too much. The thing you pointed out about fear is not based on previous beliefs or religion, but my personality, that I am overall a hyper vigilant and very careful person. I constantly worry and overthink everything. Becoming involved in zevism was a huge step for me but I couldn't advance due to the same reasons.
To give you an example of what I mean by thinking too much, right now I feel like some people might feel offended by my post and try to manifest negativity for me or even curse me. This has no reason to happen. I know for sure nobody did it. Yet I worry about it.
That is the exact approach I have to gods. But way worse. Since I know they can see right through me.
 

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