WHAT IS GOING ON??

[nema]

It's actually remarkable how many times the High Priest is willing to repeat himself. The ToZ is elevating its standards, that's It, it's not a big deal. He's obviously not going to explain every deleted post one by one because that's just insane. Personally i probably wrote a LOT of stupid things.. anyway i'm just glad this place even exists. Cheers!

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Posts were removed because they had no place in what the ToZ is or what the ToZ stands for...

If anyone is upset that material they liked is gone, that says more about what they were here for than it does about our moderation. We are not going to apologize for cleaning the house and keeping everyone safe here. We are not going to consult thousands of people before doing it again. And we are absolutely not going to leave material up that has no business being here, just because someone got attached to it being there...

What was removed was removed because it should never have been here in the first place. That is a failure we are correcting now. Nobody owes anyone advance notice for taking out content that disgraces the name of this Temple.

Personally, I'm very glad that all those toxic posts I wrote between 2021 and 2024 have been deleted. They were just tantrums venting right after ending a bad relationship. All of that is contrary to how a dedicated Zevist should behave in the forums.

 

[ModernMage]

Expressing like animals doesn't mean one says the truth; it means on the contrary, one cannot even manage their own expression.

Saying "fuck this, fuck that, vermin pope" and related, is not more truthful than saying something in proper language. One could say insidious.

Have to hide what, the Gods? Why should the Gods hide? This is the ultimate false admission of evil and failure; it's the work of the enemy that the Gods were to be misperceived. All their campaign was to misperceive the Gods, keep them out of society, and pretend all their believers were insane and/or to be socially ostracized, while the Bible which preaches genocidal mania, is actually a "Good book that deserves everyone's attention".

The persecution of the Gods was the creation of those against them, should people behave in ways that adopt and further this persecution? That's doing the enemy's work for them.



Practically speaking, there's no change in that people can make themselves outcasted if they want. Now, people are more unique than before. Of lesser people, the planet is rife; people can stand out in more fruitful ways now than before.

That's only for emo reasons and not even real. For one to bring the Gods into persecution and persecution supported narratives, and simultaneously say they want them to be where they deserve, is antithetical.

To be irrelevant and to not exist, does not equal in any progress. Truth is not validated simply because people dislike someone or because one is marginalized and emo, that doesn't make someone more real, it makes someone more distanced from the Gods, and the Gods more distanced even from mankind.

I understand what you are saying but do you understand why others have reacted and felt a certain way? I was only trying to explain that. It was not to say “clergy bad, idiots should be allowed to say whatever dumb thought they have without any reflection or consequence.” My intention was only to help explain the feelings of others.

And most of us will still have to hide our spiritual beliefs/not discuss it. Unless others are already into some spirituality. The general populace is so numb, cut off, and brainwashed it is beyond frustrating that it is difficult to share something that could enrich their lives. I will never admit defeat but my hope for the future is slim and relies mostly on raising a new generation on Zevist beliefs and ethics.

 

[Heimdall]

LOOK AT ME!!

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

I've been heavily meditating lately, and I got the unmistakable impression that ToZ is on a slippery slope with these changes. I'm not saying it's going to happen now, but there will come a time with the current trend that members will start to become paranoid and start second guessing everything they post, until it gets to the stage when they simply will give up and stop posting - you see where I'm going with this?

I'm sorry if I opened a can of worms with my original post, but I truly believed I had just cause, and still do.

This was the wrong impression and also implies your judgement is higher than the Clergy, which is not true. Personally, I will choose HPZM to administer the Temple instead. What he had put forth in regards to the Liturgical changes, and now with the moderation changes, positions ToZ way stronger than before.

 

[SagittariusA]

I hope that our new local policy will allow us to be less paranoid online, and not to give up on messaging apps, social media, Windows, and so on. Perhaps we could even start creating our own apps and programmes, our own infrastructure, our own DNS servers, and so on, since we’re outside the political sphere. I don’t know what’s going on at the highest levels, but that shouldn’t be written about publicly; it’s only accessible to those at the very top. But I believe that whatever happens, ToZ is under absolute protection. And the future will be better. I have a rough idea of what’s going on, but I’ll keep quiet. I hope that one day we’ll create our own AI models and won’t be 100% dependent on anyone.

 

[Apprentice]

until it gets to the stage when they simply will give up and stop posting

It gets to the stage of dignified, respectful, intellectual, uplifting, and fulfilling communication between members of the Temple.
Those who find themselves unable or unwilling to learn to practice Ma'at and ascend - it's their loss, really. This is a divine place here, meaning we collectively have to strive towards becoming gradually more divine ourselves.
For expressing unfiltered useless inflammation, other places exist.

 

[Heimdall]

ToZ is now burning because it wasn't presented properly

 

[Heimdall]

It gets to the stage of dignified, respectful, intellectual, uplifting, and fulfilling communication between members of the Temple.
Those who find themselves unable or unwilling to learn to practice Ma'at and ascend - it's their loss, really. This is a divine place here, meaning we collectively have to strive towards becoming gradually more divine ourselves.
For expressing unfiltered useless inflammation, other places exist.

Beep-beep!

 

[616Taysha]

until it gets to the stage when they simply will give up and stop posting

You do realise this is irrelevant to the Temple's well-being whether a newbie, OR a long-standing member, stops posting, right? There have been cases thake that. I too am more of a reader than one who posts, so this line, while sounding like a threat, is... futile.

But tell you what, you being a new person have an advantage - you can witness how the Temple, the forum is changing. You can SEE the process, which many after you will NOT.

You will be able to say: "I was there, I didn't like some of the changes, but I have come to accept them and I stayed."

Oh, and on a private not, I have been punished once, it was some time ago - a week long ban. I didn't throw a Greta Thunberg tantrum - why? Because I broke some rule, and yet I still want to be able to have a say here.

 

[Heimdall]

How many times must I say it? Do I need to draw a map?
I didn't take exception to the deletion of defamatory and inappropriate posts.
It was the inept and inconsiderate manner in which it was implemented.
Stop this embarrassing "damage control" exercise, admit you made a mistake - you "fucked the pooch".
MOVE ON!!!!

 

[Heimdall]

I was looking for Macdonalds to buy a "Big Mac and fries", but instead walked into a children's day care centre by mistake - opps!

 

[Apprentice]

It appears you are struggling to realize the true essence of this place, and the magnitude of current changes. Instead of continuing with immature reactions, one could gain wisdom and insight from reading all the latest sermons, and meditating.

 

[nema]

How many times must I say it? Do I need to draw a map?
I didn't take exception to the deletion of defamatory and inappropriate posts.
It was the inept and inconsiderate manner in which it was implemented.
Stop this embarrassing "damage control" exercise, admit you made a mistake - you "fucked the pooch".
MOVE ON!!!!

It's inconsiderate to YOU. You don't know everything and evidently there are nuances that the Clergy get and you don't. That's why they are the Clergy and we are not..
It's not an insult or anything, it's just the way It is.
The High Priest and Priestess don't care about "Power" or "control" over us, they do what they do for the Gods.. they are VERY mature.

 

[ARIES SPIRITUAL LIGHTOFLUCIFER666]

One of the clergy making a sermon about "certain" moderation changes, and then people's avatars and posts being removed without any explanation. Coincidence or something we all should be concerned about?
Is this something the Gods would approve?
Something to think about.

Who are you
You just joined a few months ago
Even if you had a past account why not post from that one

 

[Khem Nefermed]

How many times must I say it? Do I need to draw a map?
I didn't take exception to the deletion of defamatory and inappropriate posts.
It was the inept and inconsiderate manner in which it was implemented.
Stop this embarrassing "damage control" exercise, admit you made a mistake - you "fucked the pooch".
MOVE ON!!!!

>announcement is made that moderation will be taken a lot more seriously and slop won't be approved
>previous slop is deleted
>this is somehow surprising

 

[Heimdall]

I had my misgivings from the beginning.
Goodbye all

 

[ARIES SPIRITUAL LIGHTOFLUCIFER666]

I had my misgivings from the beginning.
Goodbye all

Thank you for leaving clown

 

[ARIES SPIRITUAL LIGHTOFLUCIFER666]

I'm alright. I spent over an hour doing meditation this morning and feel like a 12 volt battery

Its shows extremely new and don't have any experience
Hp have spoken about it before you're jolt would ago away and Then it just becomes normal
It must be your very first time

 

[չ∂αяквℓσω]

I hope that our new local policy will allow us to be less paranoid online, and not to give up on messaging apps, social media, Windows, and so on. Perhaps we could even start creating our own apps and programmes, our own infrastructure, our own DNS servers, and so on, since we’re outside the political sphere. I don’t know what’s going on at the highest levels, but that shouldn’t be written about publicly; it’s only accessible to those at the very top. But I believe that whatever happens, ToZ is under absolute protection. And the future will be better. I have a rough idea of what’s going on, but I’ll keep quiet. I hope that one day we’ll create our own AI models and won’t be 100% dependent on anyone.

Regarding Windows, I have my own personal opinion: I can do exactly everything with Linux and I feel much better. It's not just paranoia, but the very structure of the Windows system that presents various problems, performance issues. Furthermore, a closed system like Windows does not allow me to be totally efficient in adapting it completely to the development of any software, even future software that could eventually be part of the official ToZ network.