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I'm not exactly sure how I should start this post. I'll just try to be as truthful as I possibly can. There will be people who call bs, of course. Regardless, I think it's important to record my experiences here for anyone else that might one day find themselves in a similar position. Think of this as an anecdotal experience, rather than some attempt to prove anything.

I've spent the last year attempting to initiate my personal magnum opus, and it has been a rough road. I won't share how I managed to attempt this, because the methods were very degenerate and dangerous to most people's standards and I don't have much to argue it was worth the risks (yet?).

I've been using a modified classical interpretation of the great work, where there's 6 stages: Nigredo, Solutio, Albedo, Citrinitas, Coagulatio and Rubedo. This is a part where I must be exceptionally honest, I'm not nearly studied enough in academia to piece together something this advanced in a coherent manner, so I used AI to help me do so. There are a lot of sources that I slept on that are similar to what I've run into so far, in particular the work of Carl Jung. Of course, AI doesn't understand the material enough either, especially in it's application, so I've had to resort to experimenting with everything and learn what works the hard way.

So far, I was very wrong how this cycle would work, and underestimated just how devastating the negredo process can be, especially when it appears to be the most frequent one. After countless ego deaths and chaotic dysfunctional repeated cycles, which I now realize have been occurring earlier without my awareness of it, I'm starting to recognize the patterns and what they mean.

One of the major findings thus far is the first thing to dissolve is morality and other superficial societal norms. Initially I thought I had already overcome this earlier, but I was wrong, even now as I write this I still operate on them.

According to Carl Jung:

  • The Ego: Your conscious identity—the "I" you think you are. It's the manager of your conscious mind, making decisions, maintaining your persona (social mask), and trying to keep things orderly.

  • The Shadow: The hidden, unconscious part of your personality containing everything you repress or deny about yourself—traits, desires, impulses, and capacities that are incompatible with your conscious self-image (e.g., rage, selfishness, "taboo" urges, but also hidden talents).

If you read between the lines, this is everything you must know in terms of function. The ego has to be challenged, because it actively prevents our power through self suppression of the shadow. We often think the enemy prevents our ascension, but we play a big part of it too. We suppress our psychic potential because it has a significant social cost not to. From what I have seen in myself, the erosion of the ego removes oneself from so called common sense and makes connection to other people difficult. That is to say, your ego is essentially what makes you human, at least to general consensus... and they might as well be right.

Once you remove the self suppressing ego, you don't only get the "hidden talents" you probably were hoping for, but also every other part of you too. You release a primal part of yourself as well, that in my case pretty closely matches descriptions of what a "demon" is, and that's definitely not a coincidence-- that christianity would so precisely align itself against it. But here's the thing, I sorta am too. Is that shocking to you? That primal part of me is so degenerate and psychotic that it genuinely worries me. It worries me enough not to share how to initiate this process, and it's actually bad enough that I probably as is more than qualify for the nut house. If I didn't have an extreme amount of earth in my natal, I'd probably already have succumb to my shadow. The initial annoyance of a resistant ego is showing itself to be a blessing once I popped the hood, so to speak. I'm being pushed closer to the edge of a cliff at an acceleration I no longer have control of. Or maybe I actually do, it's hard to say.

I forgot the point of me writing this. It was probably a waste of time, but I might as well press post since my time has already been wasted here.
 
You asked AI to help you with The Great Work, when in reality the only beings who can help you with that are Daemons and Gods... Sorry, you are not ready for it, and I do not know why you push it like this. Ignorance?
 
I'm not exactly sure how I should start this post. I'll just try to be as truthful as I possibly can. There will be people who call bs, of course. Regardless, I think it's important to record my experiences here for anyone else that might one day find themselves in a similar position. Think of this as an anecdotal experience, rather than some attempt to prove anything.

I've spent the last year attempting to initiate my personal magnum opus, and it has been a rough road. I won't share how I managed to attempt this, because the methods were very degenerate and dangerous to most people's standards and I don't have much to argue it was worth the risks (yet?).

I've been using a modified classical interpretation of the great work, where there's 6 stages: Nigredo, Solutio, Albedo, Citrinitas, Coagulatio and Rubedo. This is a part where I must be exceptionally honest, I'm not nearly studied enough in academia to piece together something this advanced in a coherent manner, so I used AI to help me do so. There are a lot of sources that I slept on that are similar to what I've run into so far, in particular the work of Carl Jung. Of course, AI doesn't understand the material enough either, especially in it's application, so I've had to resort to experimenting with everything and learn what works the hard way.

So far, I was very wrong how this cycle would work, and underestimated just how devastating the negredo process can be, especially when it appears to be the most frequent one. After countless ego deaths and chaotic dysfunctional repeated cycles, which I now realize have been occurring earlier without my awareness of it, I'm starting to recognize the patterns and what they mean.

One of the major findings thus far is the first thing to dissolve is morality and other superficial societal norms. Initially I thought I had already overcome this earlier, but I was wrong, even now as I write this I still operate on them.

According to Carl Jung:

  • The Ego: Your conscious identity—the "I" you think you are. It's the manager of your conscious mind, making decisions, maintaining your persona (social mask), and trying to keep things orderly.

  • The Shadow: The hidden, unconscious part of your personality containing everything you repress or deny about yourself—traits, desires, impulses, and capacities that are incompatible with your conscious self-image (e.g., rage, selfishness, "taboo" urges, but also hidden talents).

If you read between the lines, this is everything you must know in terms of function. The ego has to be challenged, because it actively prevents our power through self suppression of the shadow. We often think the enemy prevents our ascension, but we play a big part of it too. We suppress our psychic potential because it has a significant social cost not to. From what I have seen in myself, the erosion of the ego removes oneself from so called common sense and makes connection to other people difficult. That is to say, your ego is essentially what makes you human, at least to general consensus... and they might as well be right.

Once you remove the self suppressing ego, you don't only get the "hidden talents" you probably were hoping for, but also every other part of you too. You release a primal part of yourself as well, that in my case pretty closely matches descriptions of what a "demon" is, and that's definitely not a coincidence-- that christianity would so precisely align itself against it. But here's the thing, I sorta am too. Is that shocking to you? That primal part of me is so degenerate and psychotic that it genuinely worries me. It worries me enough not to share how to initiate this process, and it's actually bad enough that I probably as is more than qualify for the nut house. If I didn't have an extreme amount of earth in my natal, I'd probably already have succumb to my shadow. The initial annoyance of a resistant ego is showing itself to be a blessing once I popped the hood, so to speak. I'm being pushed closer to the edge of a cliff at an acceleration I no longer have control of. Or maybe I actually do, it's hard to say.

I forgot the point of me writing this. It was probably a waste of time, but I might as well press post since my time has already been wasted here.
Many Ai app are run by jews. Using Ai will not benefit you.
 
Imagine trying to transform your soul to become a God, except not working with the Gods in any way. And also not doing any of the rituals, workings, or power meditations to actually advance or strengthen the soul in any way.

Computers giving a bullshit unenlightened and misunderstood summary of a bunch of books which themselves contain no actual spiritual instructions and little to no useful information anyway. Creating a "plan" for spiritual soul evolution to become a god, but it does not involve the Gods in any way and it does not involve working with the soul in any way. I can't imagine any way that this could make sense.
 
AI will not advance you on your spiritual journey. There is no shortcut or anything. You need to study, meditate, and practice.
Please, about spirituality, don't take any sources so seriously but the Temple of Zeus and The Clergy posts and Guardians posts as well, and always read them by heart to learn, not just simply look at them. Otherwise, you'll hurt yourself.
 
Imagine trying to transform your soul to become a God, except not working with the Gods in any way. And also not doing any of the rituals, workings, or power meditations to actually advance or strengthen the soul in any way.

Computers giving a bullshit unenlightened and misunderstood summary of a bunch of books which themselves contain no actual spiritual instructions and little to no useful information anyway. Creating a "plan" for spiritual soul evolution to become a god, but it does not involve the Gods in any way and it does not involve working with the soul in any way. I can't imagine any way that this could make sense.
:ROFLMAO: :cool:
 
You will be led to the right conclusion when your GD decides you need it or can make use of it.

Just enjoy the process, meditate.
 
The only way to go through this process correctly and complete the magnum opus is directly through Zeus and the Gods themselves.

Another thing to keep in mind is if the rest of the steps were circulated and shared, we would have people going and trying to do this when they are not ready or advanced enough and could deeply damage their souls and affect their overall growth as beings.

When you are actually ready to start this, and go through the very long and difficult process of transmuting the soul into the diamond body, the Gods will directly let you know.

There is no sense in trying to push hard at this and harming yourself or frying your nervous system. You can just enjoy the journey and work hard, and take your time.

Please keep this in mind.
 
LOL its defo AI henu hope you good pal
I'm good, thanks.

The original poster is a human, but they have favored academics for spiritual growth, which is a dead-end pursuit in this world as it stands.
 
AI is not a reliable source to decide on spirituality, better leave it to manage the phone, generate images... Artificial intelligence is really a very good tool, but for temporal matters, and for doing various projects, and not for managing your spiritual path. Try to enter from this state, meditate and get to know the guardian demon :)
 
You asked AI to help you with The Great Work, when in reality the only beings who can help you with that are Daemons and Gods... Sorry, you are not ready for it, and I do not know why you push it like this. Ignorance?
I have been using AI to double check my theories and find similarities to others' work who came to similar conclusions. In this way, AI is very useful because this isn't outside the utility it's intended for.

I don't have much to say on why the Gods haven't helped me more than they have. Something/someone did in the beginning, but only cryptic things that I had to figure out for myself over time. My interpretation is that anyone worthy should be able to figure this out for themselves, with or without the Gods. That's all I can say with confidence.
 
Imagine trying to transform your soul to become a God, except not working with the Gods in any way. And also not doing any of the rituals, workings, or power meditations to actually advance or strengthen the soul in any way.

Computers giving a bullshit unenlightened and misunderstood summary of a bunch of books which themselves contain no actual spiritual instructions and little to no useful information anyway. Creating a "plan" for spiritual soul evolution to become a god, but it does not involve the Gods in any way and it does not involve working with the soul in any way. I can't imagine any way that this could make sense.
Ok.

You have a lot of biases on how things should and can be done, Personally, I don't make these assumptions and I'm really just doing my best to make something out of it. I'm not going to claim either that what I'm doing will result in "godhood", I have no idea. I like not knowing, so I'm okay with that.
 
The only way to go through this process correctly and complete the magnum opus is directly through Zeus and the Gods themselves.

Another thing to keep in mind is if the rest of the steps were circulated and shared, we would have people going and trying to do this when they are not ready or advanced enough and could deeply damage their souls and affect their overall growth as beings.

When you are actually ready to start this, and go through the very long and difficult process of transmuting the soul into the diamond body, the Gods will directly let you know.

There is no sense in trying to push hard at this and harming yourself or frying your nervous system. You can just enjoy the journey and work hard, and take your time.

Please keep this in mind.
Look, I get what you're trying to do here and it would be the best advice for 99.999% of people. It might even be the best advice for me too, but I can't follow it. This is just something I need to do, or at least try. Maybe what I'm doing isn't even the actual magnum opus, but something before it. I don't know and I'm not going to pretend to know.
 
AI is not a reliable source to decide on spirituality, better leave it to manage the phone, generate images... Artificial intelligence is really a very good tool, but for temporal matters, and for doing various projects, and not for managing your spiritual path. Try to enter from this state, meditate and get to know the guardian demon :)
I'm not using AI to create rituals or anything, it's bad at it and half the time it outright refuses. AI alone wouldn't have gotten me anywhere close to where I've managed to. Knowing the right questions to get useful answers out of AI is half the battle, otherwise you'd get the usual slop. The other big part is knowing when the AI is wrong, it too often is.
 
I like not knowing
ToZ is the place of learning, of knowing.

If people come here to NOT KNOW - why do they do it in the 1st place? The answer's obvious.

Your 1st post was not about asking, introducting oneself, how you've found ToZ, but about telling us something that you don't seem to care about. Something that is beyond the power of artificial technology.

Nope, as of right now I'm taking this seriously
I believe you - all people who've come here recently, and who are no longer here, were serious about their 'ideas'.

poof!
 
I have been using AI to double check my theories and find similarities to others' work who came to similar conclusions. In this way, AI is very useful because this isn't outside the utility it's intended for.
AI is pure logos, it will get your intelligence, but not spirituality. There is a difference, you know. And talking intelligently about spiritual topics is not the same as spirituality. Compare your left and right brain hemispheres here. The AI is only capable of left-brain activity, and thus it will always fall short of what you are truly seeking. You would need to seek guidance from Gods, IF you are even dedicated to them.
 
I've spent the last year attempting to initiate my personal magnum opus, and it has been a rough road
You could have done far better and more productive things in that time, you can't just expect to warp yourself to greatness with little to no effort.
and that's definitely not a coincidence-- that christianity would so precisely align itself against it. But here's the thing, I sorta am too. Is that shocking to you?
I forgot the point of me writing this. It was probably a waste of time, but I might as well press post since my time has already been wasted here.
If you are "wasting your time here", than why are you here?

You come here, write in a condescending way that comes across more as a "Checkmate Atheist!" "own", than anything even remotely productive.
You seemingly try to validate Xianity using an AI, while actively stating that you "don't want to know". Meanwhile, you've got a black cube as your pfp.

My point is: You are not proving, or figuring out anything here, you have merely shown everyone your willful ignorance.
 
ToZ is the place of learning, of knowing.

If people come here to NOT KNOW - why do they do it in the 1st place? The answer's obvious.

Your 1st post was not about asking, introducting oneself, how you've found ToZ, but about telling us something that you don't seem to care about. Something that is beyond the power of artificial technology.


I believe you - all people who've come here recently, and who are no longer here, were serious about their 'ideas'.

poof!
There's a very big difference between you knowing and you thinking you know.

I'm not really caught up with the drama here there's days. Couldn't say what you're referring to. There's also a difference between being passionate about something and staying here to talk about it, there's other places to communicate.
 
You could have done far better and more productive things in that time, you can't just expect to warp yourself to greatness with little to no effort.


If you are "wasting your time here", than why are you here?

You come here, write in a condescending way that comes across more as a "Checkmate Atheist!" "own", than anything even remotely productive.
You seemingly try to validate Xianity using an AI, while actively stating that you "don't want to know". Meanwhile, you've got a black cube as your pfp.

My point is: You are not proving, or figuring out anything here, you have merely shown everyone your willful ignorance.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Let's break it down I guess....

You could have done far better and more productive things in that time, you can't just expect to warp yourself to greatness with little to no effort.
 
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Let's break it down I guess....
Typo...
You could have done far better and more productive things in that time, you can't just expect to warp yourself to greatness with little to no effort.
I'm not sure what you're on about here. Of course I could have done more, I could have meditated 24 hours a day for 7 days a week in permanent trance for a full year, chanting all sorts of nonsense mantras nobody really knows the purposes of. "You could have done more" is going to be true, literally, for every person in any amount of time, there's going to be more and less than any outcome possible. To that, I say... alright.

You come here, write in a condescending way that comes across more as a "Checkmate Atheist!" "own", than anything even remotely productive.
You seemingly try to validate Xianity using an AI, while actively stating that you "don't want to know". Meanwhile, you've got a black cube as your pfp.
???

Here's you (what's the polite word for bitching again) about productivity again. I think this is really a problem of your reading comprehension at this point, or perhaps just my problem of poorly articulating myself. So let's just simplify things down then.

1. I'm not xian. Just because I said they were sorta right about a complex issue doesn't mean I sympathize with them or their pov. This is like saying if you don't work on Sundays you're therefore catholic.

2. I'm not an atheist, more like vaguely agnostic at this point but not exactly. "Not pretending to know anything related to spiritualism" is more precise, and yes I see the apparent irony and paradox here that I would say this and be attempting the magnum. I would argue that it's not a paradox at all- in absence of knowing, deliberately not knowing is the best alternative.

3. the black cube in my pfp isn't glamorizing, it's more like looking at it from an external perspective, being excluded from it. (Interesting you know the symbology, but can't read? Maybe it's my fault then actually)
 
AI is pure logos, it will get your intelligence, but not spirituality. There is a difference, you know. And talking intelligently about spiritual topics is not the same as spirituality. Compare your left and right brain hemispheres here. The AI is only capable of left-brain activity, and thus it will always fall short of what you are truly seeking. You would need to seek guidance from Gods, IF you are even dedicated to them.

Ok. I've seen it make plenty of mistakes on things it's even supposed to be good at. It's capable of very advanced things, like vibe coding, but doesn't always know there's two Bs in blueberry.

Now onto the last bit... I currently have no reason to believe the Gods have any intention of most humans ascending to godhood, especially when looking at Greek mythology. Zeus was known to severely punish Prometheis for giving humanity the fire of the Gods, and he punished even Demigods for disrupting the natural order in cases like Asclepius (yes, Asclepius ascended after, but only because his daddy was Apollo). I don't recall any actual mortals achieving full apotheosis canonically, though I'm sure there's a few that can be argued.

The only times I was 99% sure I was speaking to... something that probably was powerful enough to be considered a true God... it was not friendly at all. In the most lucid case, one only spoke to me to challenge whether I was worthy of 4D (?) perception during an experiment. It didn't give me advice or pat me on the back and say "good job, son", it put me through the harshest Negredo I had experienced at that point, which was the equivalent of spiritual death. The difference in power wasn't close at all, and I was at my best at the time... What it did was something between being thrown into a lake in order to learn to swim or just straight up culling. Yes, I built my current understanding of my magnum opus on this. I have no idea where people came up with the idea that the Gods are friendly, I've never ever seen this.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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