Part I. Evacuated Maria Oršić SS group meditating on Orion (Digital Art/Video of Zevism)

[AristocraticDragon666]

 

[Blitzkreig [SG]]

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This content has been allowed for free speech reasons, but also understand that these kinds of associations will hurt the Zevist movement by dissuading new people from joining.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

This content has been allowed for free speech reasons, but also understand that these kinds of associations will hurt the Zevist movement by dissuading new people from joining.

Respectfully, SG, what you’re saying is complete bs. It’s a dark day if we “camouflage” our beliefs and values to fit the narrative.

Nazism and Maria Orsic as well Hitler who are on Orion that is true, are honorable things and deserve honor and praise, not threats of censorship and deletion not to “dissuade” new people, fuck new people if they can’t handle stuff from our beliefs like extra terrestrials or Nazism, then they are not true. We read and educated ourselves and we believe by both faith and experience.

Although I even dislike the main post as it’s AI and Maria Orsic is bald or something so even that art doesn’t do her justice. I adore Maria Orsic, there is NOTHING to delete about this.

You need to go easy on the delete button, Hps Maxine once mentioned everyone should be able to post and communicate, unless very obvious blasphemy to the Gods which is inexcusable.

I say all this respectfully and hope it doesn’t get taken the wrong way, but seeing this post from you shook me as it’s not how it’s supposed to be here.

 

[Blitzkreig [SG]]

Respectfully, SG, what you’re saying is complete bs. It’s a dark day if we “camouflage” our beliefs and values to fit the narrative.

Nazism and Maria Orsic as well Hitler who are on Orion that is true, are honorable things and deserve honor and praise, not threats of censorship and deletion not to “dissuade” new people, fuck new people if they can’t handle stuff from our beliefs like extra terrestrials or Nazism, then they are not true. We read and educated ourselves and we believe by both faith and experience.

Although I even dislike the main post as it’s AI and Maria Orsic is bald or something so even that art doesn’t do her justice. I adore Maria Orsic, there is NOTHING to delete about this.

You need to go easy on the delete button, Hps Maxine once mentioned everyone should be able to post and communicate, unless very obvious blasphemy to the Gods which is inexcusable.

I say all this respectfully and hope it doesn’t get taken the wrong way, but seeing this post from you shook me as it’s not how it’s supposed to be here.

Your idea of Maria Orsic, or ideas relating to Zevism, meditation, and other core beliefs of ours, are totally different from what the average person has been led to believe. If these concepts are simply presented as is to the general public, they will reject them, no matter how much you may try to logically explain.

We need people connecting to the Gods and meditation, which will give them the tools to truly have proper ideas about reality. Yet, this doesn't happen when they come here and see a large Nazi thread, as they will just leave. In that case, what benefit did either they or ourselves gain from that?

Our ideas are not camouflaged in a manner outside of our control or in a way that suppresses our inner beliefs, but how we present and interact with others determines how much they will understand and adopt what we already know is true.

 

[Aquarius]

Respectfully, SG, what you’re saying is complete bs. It’s a dark day if we “camouflage” our beliefs and values to fit the narrative.

Nazism and Maria Orsic as well Hitler who are on Orion that is true, are honorable things and deserve honor and praise, not threats of censorship and deletion not to “dissuade” new people, fuck new people if they can’t handle stuff from our beliefs like extra terrestrials or Nazism, then they are not true. We read and educated ourselves and we believe by both faith and experience.

Although I even dislike the main post as it’s AI and Maria Orsic is bald or something so even that art doesn’t do her justice. I adore Maria Orsic, there is NOTHING to delete about this.

You need to go easy on the delete button, Hps Maxine once mentioned everyone should be able to post and communicate, unless very obvious blasphemy to the Gods which is inexcusable.

I say all this respectfully and hope it doesn’t get taken the wrong way, but seeing this post from you shook me as it’s not how it’s supposed to be here.

There's ways and ways to address yourself to a Supreme Guardian. You chose the worst.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Your idea of Maria Orsic, or ideas relating to Zevism, meditation, and other core beliefs of ours, are totally different from what the average person has been led to believe. If these concepts are simply presented as is to the general public, they will reject them, no matter how much you may try to logically explain.

We need people connecting to the Gods and meditation, which will give them the tools to truly have proper ideas about reality. Yet, this doesn't happen when they come here and see a large Nazi thread, as they will just leave. In that case, what benefit did either they or ourselves gain from that?

Our ideas are not camouflaged in a manner outside of our control or in a way that suppresses our inner beliefs, but how we present and interact with others determines how much they will understand and adopt what we already know is true.

We came here and found the Nazi flags and didn’t leave, if outsiders leave then they are just that, outsiders. I disagree with this SG.

Outreach is great, but not this.

 

[AFODO]

I say all this respectfully and hope it doesn’t get taken the wrong way, but seeing this post from you shook me as it’s not how it’s supposed to be here.

Just because you say this it doesn't make it respectful. You were indeed very disrespectful.
I know it's hard for people to make this change but we are Zevists which is a spiritual religion of the Gods, this is our main focus here from now on. Can you talk about Nazism and Satanism randomly to people on the street? No. Will they accept? No. Can you talk about ancient religions and Gods to people on the street? Yes. Will they accept? Maybe. Here is nothing different electronically, we are not meant to be a few thousands of people of the billions, but a recognized and accepted religion world wide.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Just because you say this it doesn't make it respectful. You were indeed very disrespectful.
I know it's hard for people to make this change but we are Zevists which is a spiritual religion of the Gods, this is our main focus here from now on. Can you talk about Nazism and Satanism randomly to people on the street? No. Will they accept? No. Can you talk about ancient religions and Gods to people on the street? Yes. Will they accept? Maybe. Here is nothing different electronically, we are not meant to be a few thousands of people of the billions, but a recognized and accepted religion world wide.

From my point of view you’re pissing on the memory of the true people of our Gods who fought and died and ascended for the sake of our cause.

What’s next? We are going to brush off Hps Maxine Dietrich because her husband was a Nazi or something and that doesn’t “look good” on your resume of world wide accepted religion?

Are we going to praise Alexander the Great but brush off Adolf Hitler, because of the Andrapoda’s poor little feelings?

WE DON’T BEND TO THE WORLD, IT BENDS TO US. PERIOD.

Yes, I’m a Satanist and a Nazi and if these things don’t have place here anymore, then what, I don’t have place here?

We worship Truth, Truth might hurt, might be eccentric, might be shocking but only pure, unfiltered truth has my loyalty. That was HPS Maxine’s legacy.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

In every ancient Golden Age Civilization, the Mystery Schools had many different levels and layers where everything was kept secret. Only after years of practice and dedication on the first most basic level, then a student would be allowed to the next level to learn the next things.

The way things are done here now is to give like 90% or 95% of knowledge and information immediately publicly for anyone who cares to read it. As it is in desperation to try to educate as many people as fast as possible to pull humanity out of the pit of death, and allow us some hope of surviving and growing as a species with the help of the Gods.

But still, the idea of levels and layers of information building onto the previous layers so the total knowledge is formed in a healthy way with strong and clear foundations. This is how majority of people need to learn based on how our minds work. There are less people who will see a new idea, which would look very strange or ridiculous based on everything that they have heard or not heard in their lives until now, and immediately hold onto and trust this new idea without a strong foundation of knowledge beneath it, and then have to back fill and restore the missing necessary foundational information at a later time. That is not how most people are, and that should not be how most people are unless they naturally have an extremely strong and accurate intuition as an actual powerful psychic ability, which would allow them to immediately see and sort what is true or false to ensure that whatever new strange idea they hold onto actually is truth. For most people who have no significant amount of a functional or correct intuition, the trait or behavioral pattern of immediately holding onto a new strange idea without any strong foundation of evidence and knowledge, this would be a serious risk of those people falling down the wrong path of confusion and lies.


It is better not to scare people away by showing them the most strangest or confusing things first when they have not had the learning experience of learning the enormous voluminous amounts of foundational knowledge first. In the many different seperate layers that are required, with each one needing to build onto the previous one which must come first.

Nearly everybody on Earth has been indoctrinated for their entire lives by jewish lies about historical events. It would take enormous amounts of learning to be able to untangle those lies, hoaxes, and exaggerations before being able to come to the truth. And this same difficult struggle is existing in many different areas whether it is christianity, lies and slander against the Gods, lies and slander against the humans on Earth who worked with the Gods in various civilizations all over Earth, strange hollywood horror movie or conspiracy bullshit ideas about what life may or may not possibly exist on other planets, or the truth of what events did or did not happen the way that everyone was told in WWII. You are taking many very difficult topics which each would take a large amount of deprogramming and relearning to be able to understand, and putting them together in an image which would look absolutely ridiculous to almost everyone on Earth.

It is not about censorship or hiding any ideas, but it is about knowledge needing to come in layers and in the correct order and at the correct time when someone is ready to understand.

I think these pictures look very cool and interesting, and they are a nice looking quality. But to most people seeing something like this, it would be very similar to the drawings of jesus riding on a dinosaur, for the retarded christians who think Earth is only 6,000 years old so if dinosaurs were real, jesus would have met them. For us to see a picture of jesus riding on the back of a therapod dinosaur, it would look absolutely ridiculous. But I'm sure AI would be able to make an image of it that would actually look pretty cool. Maybe he is holding a machine gun in one hand, and the reigns/leash of the dinosaur in the other hand. The best reaction would be someone thinks the picture is nonsense, but it does look pretty cool. The worst reaction would be someone thinks we all must be retarded.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

These picture look very cool and interesting. It is amazing what quality can be done now by AI. I am not disliking the images. Just many people would be confused.

 

[AFODO]

From my point of view you’re pissing on the memory of the true people of our Gods who fought and died and ascended for the sake of our cause.

What’s next? We are going to brush off Hps Maxine Dietrich because her husband was a Nazi or something and that doesn’t “look good” on your resume of world wide accepted religion?

Are we going to praise Alexander the Great but brush off Adolf Hitler, because of the Andrapoda’s poor little feelings?

WE DON’T BEND TO THE WORLD, IT BENDS TO US. PERIOD.

Yes, I’m a Satanist and a Nazi and if these things don’t have place here anymore, then what, I don’t have place here?

We worship Truth, Truth might hurt, might be eccentric, might be shocking but only pure, unfiltered truth has my loyalty. That was HPS Maxine’s legacy.

Yes definitely, that's why a website is currently being made for full and complete history of the 20th century. There is a natural order in which beginners should learn about things, and in the correct context, explained fully. Not come here in hope to learn about spirituality and see Hitlers and swastikas all around. They'll leave. Also, we don't bend, you understand the situation incorrectly, it is the exact opposite.
In anyways, losing trust in the ToZ is the same thing as losing trust in the Gods. You can be the hero, the rebellious, the great, and the most cleaver in your world, and everyone else an idiot, especially those who have true connection to the Gods, but then don't go to the Gods asking for anything and crying to them either. "MercuryWisdom'...

 

[Helleniser]

From my point of view you’re pissing on the memory of the true people of our Gods who fought and died and ascended for the sake of our cause.

What’s next? We are going to brush off Hps Maxine Dietrich because her husband was a Nazi or something and that doesn’t “look good” on your resume of world wide accepted religion?

Are we going to praise Alexander the Great but brush off Adolf Hitler, because of the Andrapoda’s poor little feelings?

WE DON’T BEND TO THE WORLD, IT BENDS TO US. PERIOD.

Yes, I’m a Satanist and a Nazi and if these things don’t have place here anymore, then what, I don’t have place here?

We worship Truth, Truth might hurt, might be eccentric, might be shocking but only pure, unfiltered truth has my loyalty. That was HPS Maxine’s legacy.

The transition from the Joy of Satan to the Temple of Zeus was not made to appease the masses. It was made to clear misconceptions and confusion regarding Zeus and the Gods themselves. This "new" identity allows us to see the Gods for who they truly are.

Excessive emphasis on National Socialism, or on any human invention, can make one ignore the Gods and focus on things which, compared to spiritual advancement and connection with the Gods, are futile. The people behind National Socialism may have been close to the Gods, but we should focus on the Gods themselves. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't appreciate those who fought for the Gods, which is why our sites are being updated to ensure that National Socialist figures are remembered.

There is no plan in the Temple of Zeus to eradicate all references to National Socialism. The goal is to understand the Truth about that period without acting immaturely on the Forums (e.g. using Swastikas everywhere).

 

[MercuryWisdom]

especially those who have true connection to the Gods, but then don't go to the Gods asking for anything and crying to them either. "MercuryWisdom'...

What are you trying to insinuate? That because I disagree with you or this specific way of conduct, I’m cut off from the Gods and shouldn’t ask them anything.

This is real cunty behavior you know. Do better.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

There is no plan in the Temple of Zeus to eradicate all references to National Socialism. The goal is to understand the Truth about that period without acting immaturely on the Forums (e.g. using Swastikas everywhere).

What’s wrong with using Swastikas? What’s so immature about using Swastikas when the truth is they are an ancient and deeply powerful spiritual symbol?

By you saying using Swastikas is immature, you are giving in to the narrative that Swastikas = bad and evil and edgy, which is not the truth.

 

[OrionKrieger]

Aristocratic Dragon has allot of interesting posts and i enjoy reading them, but as many others have stated, it is better if it’s done in a more professional manner.

A good suggestion would be to make a post without the use of images, because without them it opens up room for debate instead of throwing people off.

 

[Helleniser]

What’s wrong with using Swastikas? What’s so immature about using Swastikas when the truth is they are an ancient and deeply powerful spiritual symbol?

By you saying using Swastikas is immature, you are giving in to the narrative that Swastikas = bad and evil and edgy, which is not the truth.

The Swastika is a sacred symbol, indeed. That's why it's listed in the Symbols page. The problem is when members of the Forums use it everywhere, unaware of the fact that most people are not positive towards it. This makes many newcomers turn away immediately.

Eventually, people coming here will realise that Hitler was not who they thought he was. It's better, however, to make this a natural process and not force it on them from the very beginning.

My point about "immaturity" has to do with how some people do not understand the aforementioned reality and choose to use Swastikas everywhere. A mature choice would be to limit such "edginess".

 

[Epiphany]

What’s wrong with using Swastikas? What’s so immature about using Swastikas when the truth is they are an ancient and deeply powerful spiritual symbol?

By you saying using Swastikas is immature, you are giving in to the narrative that Swastikas = bad and evil and edgy, which is not the truth.

Part of maturity is being aware of image and the perception of others, and when you go around parading avatars of Hitler, nazi memorabilia and swastikas, it does not evoke pleasant thoughts, feelings and perceptions from the rest of the world, despite what you may know about these things.

Zevism is a religion for every man and woman, the Gods want us all to reawaken our souls and connect with them and the higher things in life. We have to be conscious of how we come across to people and allow them to find the truth and shed falsehood naturally and organically, not by shocking them and larping as SS like some neanderthal neonazi off pol and stormfront. It's not about "appeasement" or "giving in", it's about being realistic, mature and responsible. These kneejerk reactions of yours are not based in rationality but holding onto a dark and edgy façade from the past like a security blanket, instead of looking forward, adapting and understanding the will and needs of the Gods and their temple.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Part of maturity is being aware of image and the perception of others, and when you go around parading avatars of Hitler, nazi memorabilia and swastikas, it does not evoke pleasant thoughts, feelings and perceptions from the rest of the world, despite what you may know about these things.

Zevism is a religion for every man and woman, the Gods want us all to reawaken our souls and connect with them and the higher things in life. We have to be conscious of how we come across to people and allow them to find the truth and shed falsehood naturally and organically, not by shocking them and larping as SS like some neanderthal neonazi off pol and stormfront. It's not about "appeasement" or "giving in", it's about being realistic, mature and responsible. These kneejerk reactions of yours are not based in rationality but holding onto a dark and edgy façade from the past like a security blanket, instead of looking forward, adapting and understanding the will and needs of the Gods and their temple.

Yeah sure, I’m doing and saying all that I said because I’m dark and edgy. Not because it’s about truth or anything.

So

parading avatars of Hitler, nazi memorabilia and swastikas

Is not mature here anymore and “part of the past”. I still disagree with this. Hitler, Nazism and Swastikas are all honorable things and I would parade them, not that I do that often anyway, and not even the original post by AristocraticDragon that was almost deleted was “edgy” in anyway. Not because it’s oh so edgy. But because it’s deserving of parade and pride.

Anyway, this conduct is stupid and will always fail anyway. The enemies just have to mention that Hps Maxine’s husband was a Nazi and your so precious “new members” andrapoda are against you. So if you don’t wear it proudly, you have nothing to wear at all.

You are also heavily underestimating how much people actually value Adolf Hitler and Nazi philosophy, I would say Nazism is more on the rise than paganism would ever dream to be.

All of this bs conduct is inspired by Twitter. Trying to bring it to forums. But if you’re really on Twitter you’ll see how national socialism is well loved.

So the truth always wins anyway. Keep it close and the right ones will be awakened.

And no I don’t believe Zevism is for every man and woman, never was and never will be. Andrapodas, followers, and sheep will always exist and have done so in the golden ages. They are cowards and will always be. The brave ones are the ones that deserve the attention anyway, brave to know the truth. And this is the truth. Don’t bring cowardice to this temple.

 

[serpentwalker666]

What’s wrong with using Swastikas? What’s so immature about using Swastikas when the truth is they are an ancient and deeply powerful spiritual symbol?

By you saying using Swastikas is immature, you are giving in to the narrative that Swastikas = bad and evil and edgy, which is not the truth.

We must adapt and roll with the times so that we are able to bring the world into a high level of spiritual development and deep change of humanity.

Many people are programmed improperly about Hitler, and the Nazis. What Supreme Guardian Blitzkreig explained to you is the reality and what is CURRENTLY NECESSARY to do.
We are not living 6 years ago, or a decade before when there was not as much influx here. The stakes are higher and we have to change the world.

Many people already see Nazism and Hitler as it truly is, however with many people you so much as mention any of this and you could be imprisoned or killed, we cannot be foolish here. Many also are so strongly opposed they would leave and not reprogram and this would keep them away from Zevism entirely, this is not desirable and a large amount of time and energy wasted.

Also, I respect and love you Brother but you should not talk to SG Blitzkrieg like that, he is just being truthful with you about the current times and the very necessary approach we MUST take.

If you have further doubts, just approach your Guardian Daemon or Father Zeus and they will help you understand why this is being done.

 

[MasterJ192216]

Yeah sure, I’m doing and saying all that I said because I’m dark and edgy. Not because it’s about truth or anything.

So

Is not mature here anymore and “part of the past”. I still disagree with this. Hitler, Nazism and Swastikas are all honorable things and I would parade them, not that I do that often anyway, and not even the original post by AristocraticDragon that was almost deleted was “edgy” in anyway. Not because it’s oh so edgy. But because it’s deserving of parade and pride.

Anyway, this conduct is stupid and will always fail anyway. The enemies just have to mention that Hps Maxine’s husband was a Nazi and your so precious “new members” andrapoda are against you. So if you don’t wear it proudly, you have nothing to wear at all.

You are also heavily underestimating how much people actually value Adolf Hitler and Nazi philosophy, I would say Nazism is more on the rise than paganism would ever dream to be.

All of this bs conduct is inspired by Twitter. Trying to bring it to forums. But if you’re really on Twitter you’ll see how national socialism is well loved.

So the truth always wins anyway. Keep it close and the right ones will be awakened.

And no I don’t believe Zevism is for every man and woman, never was and never will be. Andrapodas, followers, and sheep will always exist and have done so in the golden ages. They are cowards and will always be. The brave ones are the ones that deserve the attention anyway, brave to know the truth. And this is the truth. Don’t bring cowardice to this temple.

Yes, go on X and parade with the Nationalist-Christian, because 95 % of the NS worshipper there are Christian. Go with follow your true identity with your Christian buddies on X.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Yes, go on X and parade with the Nationalist-Christian, because 95 % of the NS worshipper there are Christian. Go with follow your true identity with your Christian buddies on X.

Adolf Hitler was a Satanist, occultist, Zevist. So I would rather parade here on the forums with my SS buddies, thank you very much.

 

[Epiphany]

And no I don’t believe Zevism is for every man and woman, never was and never will be.

Of course, I forgot you knew what's best for the Temple, I should have realized that when you told that tyrannical SG Blitzkrieg off for ... spreading awareness and upholding free speech even to the point of allowing you to disrespect him.

So brave, good thing you aren't a coward, imagine where we would be if you were. Truly.

Regardless, it doesn't matter what you believe because the fact is that Zevism is the original religion of mankind. Note: mankind. Not just "some people". Not "national socialists". Mankind. This is the inheritance that the Gods left for humanity.

The Purpose of the Original Religion of Mankind

"The Temple of Zeus is the original and true religion of mankind.

In what we refer to as a religion, the aims are be the following:

1. Liberating the human spirit through knowledge and wisdom
2. Empowering the human soul through meditation to achieve immortality
3. Forming an alliance with the Gods to attain higher states of consciousness, knowledge, and understanding
4. Emphasizing proper ethics that promote power and life, so that existence can thrive
5. Promoting the well-being of both the individual and society as a whole, with the aim of benefiting all
6. Advancing scientific, intellectual, and physical/material progress alongside sacred spiritual development"

From my point of view you’re pissing on the memory of the true people of our Gods who fought and died and ascended for the sake of our cause.

What’s next? We are going to brush off Hps Maxine Dietrich because her husband was a Nazi or something and that doesn’t “look good” on your resume of world wide accepted religion?

Are we going to praise Alexander the Great but brush off Adolf Hitler, because of the Andrapoda’s poor little feelings?

WE DON’T BEND TO THE WORLD, IT BENDS TO US. PERIOD.

Yes, I’m a Satanist and a Nazi and if these things don’t have place here anymore, then what, I don’t have place here?

We worship Truth, Truth might hurt, might be eccentric, might be shocking but only pure, unfiltered truth has my loyalty. That was HPS Maxine’s legacy.

Yes, you're so rebellious and so aligned with the pure, unfiltered truth that you still refer to the God of Gods by a corrupted name that comes from the enemy's context despite the fact that we know the original names of our God and our religion predates the enemy's by thousands of years.

Since you're so courageous, so pure and unfiltered and strong and loyal and truthful, go on the street and tell the world about how you're a satanic nazi from outer space. Go to your local mosque and tell them you worship Satan. Show everybody how the world bends to you. Then raise yourself from the dead and tell us how it went. You can go on that dummy mission if you want to but don't expect us to follow.

You act as if nazism is the end all be all of being a zevist. It's not. Our religion is not dependent on politics, it is a spiritual path, a religion that transcends political affairs. Keyword: religion. We have a structure, a hierarchy and a religious doctrine here, it is not determined by any one man's feelings or opinions but by the will of the Gods, and it goes back many thousands of years, long before a 20th century political movement. It is not against HPS Maxine or her legacy either as you are insinuating, it is building on top of the foundation she laid for us.

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