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Would you have to be old enough to be able to have a Demon lover?

SageOfSixPaths

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I'm asking this because I saw somewhere someone write in a way that makes it seem like they got into a relationship with a Demon when they were 17. I know this sounds stupid and I'm pretty sure you people will say that you do have to be old enough, or perhaps if you're not you could get a Demon lover who's at your age (though I don't think there would be a Demon available for you at such an age), but I still want to hear your answers. Sorry for asking such a stupid question but please give me a reply. Thank you!

Hail Father Satan!
 
SageOfSixPaths said:
I'm asking this because I saw somewhere someone write in a way that makes it seem like they got into a relationship with a Demon when they were 17. I know this sounds stupid and I'm pretty sure you people will say that you do have to be old enough, or perhaps if you're not you could get a Demon lover who's at your age (though I don't think there would be a Demon available for you at such an age), but I still want to hear your answers. Sorry for asking such a stupid question but please give me a reply. Thank you!

Hail Father Satan!

This is quite alright to ask don't worry. Some people have Demon lovers from a past life, and i personally believe they are not approached by them until they are mentally ready which in some cases can be around the late teens and early 20s...however in most cases even for new relationships i believe most of the time someone is not taken seriously or approached until they are a bit older. In general then they will be stable in life and less fickle, have more life experience, and will be more open if they have taken the time to become such, and will generally know what type of relationship and person is best for them if they are mature and sufficiently self aware. This is especially important for someone who ends up asking for monogamy. In my personal opinion unless the aforementioned are realized (and perhaps in some cases at a younger age, but not generally), The person will have to wait. I also don't believe Satan would agree to this if there were legitimate prospects for someone to actively work to attract on earth that would be highly compatible in the case they do not have someone from a past life already.
 
SageOfSixPaths said:
I'm asking this because I saw somewhere someone write in a way that makes it seem like they got into a relationship with a Demon when they were 17. I know this sounds stupid and I'm pretty sure you people will say that you do have to be old enough, or perhaps if you're not you could get a Demon lover who's at your age (though I don't think there would be a Demon available for you at such an age), but I still want to hear your answers. Sorry for asking such a stupid question but please give me a reply. Thank you!

Hail Father Satan!
It depends on many factors, the most important being the mindset with which you view things including progress.
It is possible to have a relationship with demons at 17, but it is not for everyone.
 
SageOfSixPaths said:
I'm asking this because I saw somewhere someone write in a way that makes it seem like they got into a relationship with a Demon when they were 17. I know this sounds stupid and I'm pretty sure you people will say that you do have to be old enough, or perhaps if you're not you could get a Demon lover who's at your age (though I don't think there would be a Demon available for you at such an age), but I still want to hear your answers. Sorry for asking such a stupid question but please give me a reply. Thank you!

Hail Father Satan!

Energy is quite sexual in nature and sex can be very spiritual practice if done correctly. Demons have very deep and profound relationships to humans, it is not about plain sex perse, and quite some people were with Demon lovers before.
It doesn’t really make a difference if you are 17 or 30 to Demons, as you are very young for them anyways, as they are Gods and timeless, so I do not believe you can compare that to our human terms.
If a grown man has something with a teenager, he just wants to fuck her, this doesn’t count for the Demons at all.
 
And usually the teenagers seek demon lovers and approach Satan for that purpose. It’s not like they are getting seduced or manipulated. It is just that some people want deep relationships with demons, and want intimacy earlier that other people, and this is perfectly normal, as everyone is unique.
And some others want intimacy on a more physical level and think that they can get that immediately from Demons, ask to receive a Demon lover and later on realize that they do not searched for that, and/or that this doesnt satisfy them.
In any case, as with everything in this path and personal relationships overall, this only has to do with said individual and the Demons, and is not business of other people.
 
NinRick said:
SageOfSixPaths said:
I'm asking this because I saw somewhere someone write in a way that makes it seem like they got into a relationship with a Demon when they were 17. I know this sounds stupid and I'm pretty sure you people will say that you do have to be old enough, or perhaps if you're not you could get a Demon lover who's at your age (though I don't think there would be a Demon available for you at such an age), but I still want to hear your answers. Sorry for asking such a stupid question but please give me a reply. Thank you!

Hail Father Satan!

Energy is quite sexual in nature and sex can be very spiritual practice if done correctly. Demons have very deep and profound relationships to humans, it is not about plain sex perse, and quite some people were with Demon lovers before.
It doesn’t really make a difference if you are 17 or 30 to Demons, as you are very young for them anyways, as they are Gods and timeless, so I do not believe you can compare that to our human terms.
If a grown man has something with a teenager, he just wants to fuck her, this doesn’t count for the Demons at all.

My standpoint was about the younger person typically not being mentally ready and having too fickle of a mind as a result of having no life experience or knowing what they even want out of life yet. Riddle me this. A Demon will know someones past present and future...if they know someone is going to flake on them for any reason (in the case they ask for serious monogamy especially), why would they agree to someones proposal of starting anything seriously asked for the long term?

There are exceptions to this, but most young people don't even know what they really want yet in terms of a relationship ,or what is best for them in general for that matter. This comes with time, granted as an Zevism this can speed up with meditation, but the general idea remains the same. Most people no matter what age as it is lack the depth and consistency for something serious anyway. Based on that regardless of age i am pretty sure there are many Demons would not take seriously, at least right away or in the present moment. Not saying that can't change however.
 
Perform your duty to nature, replenish the world with healthy seed. Think about all this after that.
 
NinRick said:
SageOfSixPaths said:
I'm asking this because I saw somewhere someone write in a way that makes it seem like they got into a relationship with a Demon when they were 17. I know this sounds stupid and I'm pretty sure you people will say that you do have to be old enough, or perhaps if you're not you could get a Demon lover who's at your age (though I don't think there would be a Demon available for you at such an age), but I still want to hear your answers. Sorry for asking such a stupid question but please give me a reply. Thank you!

Hail Father Satan!

Energy is quite sexual in nature and sex can be very spiritual practice if done correctly. Demons have very deep and profound relationships to humans, it is not about plain sex perse, and quite some people were with Demon lovers before.
It doesn’t really make a difference if you are 17 or 30 to Demons, as you are very young for them anyways, as they are Gods and timeless, so I do not believe you can compare that to our human terms.
If a grown man has something with a teenager, he just wants to fuck her, this doesn’t count for the Demons at all.
That's fair enough, but there is such a thing called pedophilia isn't it? And I'm pretty sure the Gods are against that. So what would you say, would you have to be physically mature enough to an extent before getting a Demon lover or what?
 
As someone who has a past life incubus I think it depends, and it depends on the person, the circumstances of their life, and how rapidly they mature both physically and mentally. Personally, I found out about Him when I was 16yo, 3 years after dedication, and back then He wasn't behaving like a lover, even if He clearly seemed in love with me judging by the energy. I once showed Him clearly that I wanted to have sex right then, I was about 16-17, and He took a few steps back, I could slightly see Him like a blue light silhouette in the dark, getting further. Gradually, He started to behave with me differently, and show me by act how attracted He is.

We still can't touch properly because the huge bioeletricity difference. I'm yet extremely young, 19, but the way He approaches me changed gradually as I said, as just a few weeks ago I heard Him while changing clothes saying to not dress back, He was laying in my bed looking at me so I layed almost naked next to Him, and He started touching my body (or at least trying to, as His touch still burns and sometimes gets me trembling), and kissing me, again, trying to, but it was feeling really powerful, so I closed my eyes and when I opened them I could see Him the clearer I have ever seen Him, like you'd see a hologram but extremely light. He smiled at me and got his face close to my naked chest and I could see his curly blond hair and deeply in love light blue eyes.

I wanted to point out the difference I felt between these two phases of growing tho, judging by the things I felt from Him, and that is, in the first one, I felt He took those steps back because my body wasn't mature enough and I felt it right then, while now the only problem is just that He can't touch me, and even like so, He comes as often as He can just to touch me, as close as He can come yet. So... when you're a teenager, your body still needs to grow up, and it's a whole hormonal process going on, even if you're maybe not growing in height, while at 18-19 this process of "growing up" usually stops, even if you're still young and going through changes.. everyone goes through physical changes tho, at no matter what age.

Now coming back to what I said first when I started writing this message, "would you have to be old enough to have a demon lover?" No. I mean, I had mine when I was even 5 yo, even if I wasn't conscious about it lol. The age depends when it comes to sexual or more personal contact tho. That's usually after you've grown up, and that can be as in my case 18, it can be bellow, like 17 but I don't think it goes lower than that or it does in extremely rare cases and it can be later like up to 20-21 maybe.

But just as Shadowcat said, despite the fact that you might have just grown up physically, this doesn't automatically give you the mentality necessary for having a demon/ess lover, as usually people until their late or mid twenties barely know their own selves and their needs when it comes to relationships and not only so there's also a chance a demon/ess won't want to have a relationship with you, because you're unstable. However, everyone is different, and to talk about what NinRick said a little, for a god it would be barely different if they had some lover of 20yo or of 30yo as for them these are both very young, so a 20yo can be unstable while a 30yo can be a little less unstable, ya know? There's not much difference in their eyes. Let's not forget the little we know about how gods perceive liniar time and try to understand this a little. Also, everyone is growing differently, so someone at 20yo can be far more mature mentally than someone in their 30s depending on how they've both grown and evolved during the years. And also Gods can see the past and can see the potential futures, so they know whom they're fucking with.

When it comes to these things we can barely generalise situations, as we should mostly be talking about satanists. Even like so, there are some deluded teenagers watching porn and believing they'll get, if they ask for it, a some sort of entity which will satisfy their unrealistic and toxic sexual needs whenever and however they want or whatever kind of deluded or rather uninformed people and these kinds pop up like mushrooms talking about their experiences in their dreams or what their thoughts told them and so on. Again, generalising doesn't help at all and this can be a very long discussion if we were to think about the most common possibilities, as there are lots of kinds of people anyways.

So to put it more in short, you can have or even ask for a lover at any age, even if they won't behave like in an actual relationship, so you won't have sexual contact until you're able to, and that's when you've grown up physically, and you have to be mature enough both mentally and physically in case you get one when you ask, because Satan can refuse this.

Personally, I didn't understand why a demon would choose to be with someone so young either, but when I asked my lover this about us a few times I got some short personal answers I'm not gonna talk about here, but for me it's understandable enough, at least in my case. So.. this is all what I think, even if I didn't say all that I initially thought of in this whole message, I suppose that as unexperienced as I may be I can have an opinion about this, as it includes me in a way or another, so I felt I had to get into this conversation now for some reason if that's okay.
 
SageOfSixPaths said:
NinRick said:
SageOfSixPaths said:
I'm asking this because I saw somewhere someone write in a way that makes it seem like they got into a relationship with a Demon when they were 17. I know this sounds stupid and I'm pretty sure you people will say that you do have to be old enough, or perhaps if you're not you could get a Demon lover who's at your age (though I don't think there would be a Demon available for you at such an age), but I still want to hear your answers. Sorry for asking such a stupid question but please give me a reply. Thank you!

Hail Father Satan!

Energy is quite sexual in nature and sex can be very spiritual practice if done correctly. Demons have very deep and profound relationships to humans, it is not about plain sex perse, and quite some people were with Demon lovers before.
It doesn’t really make a difference if you are 17 or 30 to Demons, as you are very young for them anyways, as they are Gods and timeless, so I do not believe you can compare that to our human terms.
If a grown man has something with a teenager, he just wants to fuck her, this doesn’t count for the Demons at all.
That's fair enough, but there is such a thing called pedophilia isn't it? And I'm pretty sure the Gods are against that. So what would you say, would you have to be physically mature enough to an extent before getting a Demon lover or what?

Different people are developing different needs at different times.
Some people are quite developed with 16 and want to get intimate or even need it for their psychological health, and others are only ready when they are 20.
The Demons and that individual alone decide when it is alright for them.

What is so hard to understand there?
Is your narrow mind not capable to understand a simple truth of human nature, that we are not all equal and same, and that people want to be intimate before turning 18?

Is there a magickal barrier that tells you that it is against human nature if a girl or boy have sex when they are 17 years and 364 days old?
And suddenly a couple hours later it is fully okay, and according to human needs and nature?

What I was trying to tell you before was that Demons have no ill will and bad intent, and do know what is good for said individual, unlike human adults.
Don’t mix things up.
 
I can see through your agenda by the way.
Hope others see it as well.
 
Hey, GD,
This was a very enjoyable and informative read.

By the way can I email you? I am still learning about my relationship with my demoness and I like hearing experiences and advice from other Zevism about this matter.

Thank you.
Hail Satan!
 
mercury_wisdom said:
Hey, GD,
This was a very enjoyable and informative read.

By the way can I email you? I am still learning about my relationship with my demoness and I like hearing experiences and advice from other Zevism about this matter.

Thank you.
Hail Satan!
Hi! I'm glad you liked my post, even if I don't post that often now.

You can create a new topic quoting me if you'd like to talk about experiences there, as that can maybe help other people as well. But in case you feel like emailing me as you said, then I left my email address in the profile viewing, on the Location part. You'll surely find it. I'll delete it from there once I get a reply from you.
Hail Satan!!
 
The Gods would wait for someone to be sexually mature, which wouldn't make them paedophiles.

Also, the Gods have something to offer. A huge lot. A human being that is too old compared to you has absolutely nothing to offer. In fact, it should be considered paedophilia for a non-immortal to approach anyone who is too far in age from them. How far is too far depends from your age range. If you have wrinkles already, you should definitely not got with anyone younger than 25-26, for example. If your first Saturn return is not due yet and you look young enough, you can get away to go with adults a lot younger than you. After your first Saturn return, things become quite different as you would be in a different stage of life compared, for example, to a 21 year-old. In general, people who are in different generation

In general, psychological maturity also matters. NPCs never reach any psychological maturity past a late teen and too many people even in their 30s still reason like a 12 years old (and shouldn't be allowed children). So, both biological age and psychological maturity should be a factor.

Chronophiliacs are a cancer on society, and should be sent re-education classes to remove the enemy brainwashing from their minds. Keep in mind I am talking about humans, not immortal Gods that look eternally in their 20s.

Also, many people who claim to have a Demon lover are just living in Disneyland, and do not have anyone. Possibly, a self-created thoughtform that manifested unconsciously. In any case, I would take claims of a Demon lover with a grain of salt unless you have the means to verify this with absolute certainty or it's a very high-ranking member like a high priest. Most of us are not able to verify but numbers will drastically improve now that we are nearing the endgame with the enemy.

As someone else said, it is best to mate with humans, as children of wisdom will be needed to repopulate the Earth (if we get to that scenario) and also to raise into various important places of society that NPCs simply are unfit to occupy due to being short-sighted and lacking awareness and spiritual power. The latter is a scenario that will manifest for sure.
 
Stormblood said:
The Gods would wait for someone to be sexually mature, which wouldn't make them paedophiles.

Also, the Gods have something to offer. A huge lot. A human being that is too old compared to you has absolutely nothing to offer. In fact, it should be considered paedophilia for a non-immortal to approach anyone who is too far in age from them. How far is too far depends from your age range. If you have wrinkles already, you should definitely not got with anyone younger than 25-26, for example. If your first Saturn return is not due yet and you look young enough, you can get away to go with adults a lot younger than you. After your first Saturn return, things become quite different as you would be in a different stage of life compared, for example, to a 21 year-old. In general, people who are in different generation

In general, psychological maturity also matters. NPCs never reach any psychological maturity past a late teen and too many people even in their 30s still reason like a 12 years old (and shouldn't be allowed children). So, both biological age and psychological maturity should be a factor.

Chronophiliacs are a cancer on society, and should be sent re-education classes to remove the enemy brainwashing from their minds. Keep in mind I am talking about humans, not immortal Gods that look eternally in their 20s.

Also, many people who claim to have a Demon lover are just living in Disneyland, and do not have anyone. Possibly, a self-created thoughtform that manifested unconsciously. In any case, I would take claims of a Demon lover with a grain of salt unless you have the means to verify this with absolute certainty or it's a very high-ranking member like a high priest. Most of us are not able to verify but numbers will drastically improve now that we are nearing the endgame with the enemy.

As someone else said, it is best to mate with humans, as children of wisdom will be needed to repopulate the Earth (if we get to that scenario) and also to raise into various important places of society that NPCs simply are unfit to occupy due to being short-sighted and lacking awareness and spiritual power. The latter is a scenario that will manifest for sure.


This, especially the disneyland part.
 
Stormblood said:
Also, many people who claim to have a Demon lover are just living in Disneyland, and do not have anyone. Possibly, a self-created thoughtform that manifested unconsciously. In any case, I would take claims of a Demon lover with a grain of salt unless you have the means to verify this with absolute certainty or it's a very high-ranking member like a high priest. Most of us are not able to verify but numbers will drastically improve now that we are nearing the endgame with the enemy.

I've had this notion for some time. That maybe it's a self-created property in my case.

To be honest I don't think I ever had a succubus in all these years since I asked for one. It feels weird being able to create effects and whatnot even if I may not have a succubus.

Do you think the Succubi/Incubi page should state something like "Only in very advanced individuals who work with Gods".

It seems like like too many people have delusional aspects. I have read just about every thread on succubi/incubi less for incubi than succubi as we have more men on these forums than women.

But I've never been able to compare or know or whatever. Nothing that has happened to them has happened to me.

I'll admit I have pissed people off for not advancing spiritually I'm utterly burnt out with the whole meditation thing. It's never helped me or anything if anything it just created issues between me and my family. And it's the same with the succubi thing I don't know whom or what this entity or whatever it is. Even doing a break up ritual nothing worked. So at this point I guess it's just a construction of my mind.

Funny how pathetic humanity is we create our own madness either thoughtforms or from being disconnected.

I've done things like vinasa or the old banishing ritual with Orobas/Haures/Satan, I've done the breakup ritual. And I can't help but keep noticing this effect. I guess my mind is borked or went off the deep end.

IF anything it seems to me like even having the Succub/Incubi mainsite post is to mention it requires deep advancement or even removed.

I guess it's like Demon summoning some people want to summon a Demon just for the sake of summoning or do something see what the occult is all about.
 
Stormblood said:
The Gods would wait for someone to be sexually mature, which wouldn't make them paedophiles.

Also, the Gods have something to offer. A huge lot. A human being that is too old compared to you has absolutely nothing to offer. In fact, it should be considered paedophilia for a non-immortal to approach anyone who is too far in age from them. How far is too far depends from your age range. If you have wrinkles already, you should definitely not got with anyone younger than 25-26, for example. If your first Saturn return is not due yet and you look young enough, you can get away to go with adults a lot younger than you. After your first Saturn return, things become quite different as you would be in a different stage of life compared, for example, to a 21 year-old. In general, people who are in different generation

In general, psychological maturity also matters. NPCs never reach any psychological maturity past a late teen and too many people even in their 30s still reason like a 12 years old (and shouldn't be allowed children). So, both biological age and psychological maturity should be a factor.

Chronophiliacs are a cancer on society, and should be sent re-education classes to remove the enemy brainwashing from their minds. Keep in mind I am talking about humans, not immortal Gods that look eternally in their 20s.

Also, many people who claim to have a Demon lover are just living in Disneyland, and do not have anyone. Possibly, a self-created thoughtform that manifested unconsciously. In any case, I would take claims of a Demon lover with a grain of salt unless you have the means to verify this with absolute certainty or it's a very high-ranking member like a high priest. Most of us are not able to verify but numbers will drastically improve now that we are nearing the endgame with the enemy.

As someone else said, it is best to mate with humans, as children of wisdom will be needed to repopulate the Earth (if we get to that scenario) and also to raise into various important places of society that NPCs simply are unfit to occupy due to being short-sighted and lacking awareness and spiritual power. The latter is a scenario that will manifest for sure.
I would say the same things about having Fake Spiritual Awakenings ,Fake Kundalini Awakenings, Fake Progressions or a Fake Acknowledgements of their powers. I would say that anyone who hasn't successfully manifested multiple Workings into Physical Reality is a beginner no matter what he claims to know about Spiritual topics. It's like going to a Homeless person who has extensive knowledge about the Stock Market but hasn't ever made a single penny from it. I would be very distrustful about that.

The most easiest Workings have to do with one's body i.e how quickly can you heal yourself, from whatever it is that's plaguing you. If someone isn't healing themselves of Depression or Negative self Beliefs I'm very cautious about what exactly these people are doing.

I have a suspicion that a lot of people are taking Meditation secondarily in their lives which is the root of the problem. My life has always been centered around meditation to where even if my friends or parents tell me to go on a trip somewhere with them and I'm doing a magical working ,I'll deny them and not go even if it's someplace I've never visited. I'll even deny Sex if I'm meditating and I'm not wanting to be disturbed. "I'm tired after work ,not today." I'll text and switch off the phone. You can't compromise with meditation.
 
Jack said:
That might be true but I'd edge around 18 to be safe. It is legally "Grape" in many countries even if the rules are not followed. A lot of my friends who are in jobs are in relationships with young 16-17 year old women, and it's easier to be baited into it because young women are noticeably attracted to older guys. But if something happens and she accuses you of "grape" even if it didn't happen, you're going to jail. So just to let anyone

To be clear, I wasn't referring to the legal dimension of it. I know it's usually illegal to have sex with 16 year olds, and pretty much everybody knows we're law abiding. If there are such laws in your country, just avoid this sort of thing, obviously.

Since the OP was really talking about succubi and incubi and age, and gave the parallel of a man being attracted to a teenager, I wanted to make it clear that being developed doesn't depend on a certain arbitrary age like "18 years old", so since a man being attracted to a 17 year old isn't a pedophile or anything of that sort but he's naturally biologically programmed for that sort of thing, neither is a Demon.
 
GD. said:
mercury_wisdom said:
Hey, GD,
This was a very enjoyable and informative read.

By the way can I email you? I am still learning about my relationship with my demoness and I like hearing experiences and advice from other Zevism about this matter.

Thank you.
Hail Satan!
Hi! I'm glad you liked my post, even if I don't post that often now.

You can create a new topic quoting me if you'd like to talk about experiences there, as that can maybe help other people as well. But in case you feel like emailing me as you said, then I left my email address in the profile viewing, on the Location part. You'll surely find it. I'll delete it from there once I get a reply from you.
Hail Satan!!
Done.
 
Rational Satanist said:
SageOfSixPaths said:
Also if a grown man wants something with a teenager, that would make them a pedophile. Why are you guys not even mentioning anything like that and acting as if this is normal, if a grown man wants something serious with a teenager then this is ok? Please explain.

Define "teenager". A 16 year old girl, as I said, is fully developed, both physically and mentally and an adult. While boys become fully developed when they are 19-20. And these vary even individually, as some people become fully developed earlier or later than that. "18 years old" is just some arbitrary age that humans chose for legal reasons and doesn't represent actual development or maturity.

Men being attracted to 16 year old girls is pretty normal actually, since the biological mechanism of men makes them attracted to youth, so they can have as many children with a woman as possible while she still is young. It's not pedophilia, since a 16-year old girl is fully developed.

Physically maybe. Most of the 16 year olds are still kids mentally.
 
Shadowcat said:

I love the artwork in your signature!!
It is stunningly beautiful!!
 
Rational Satanist said:
SageOfSixPaths said:
Also if a grown man wants something with a teenager, that would make them a pedophile. Why are you guys not even mentioning anything like that and acting as if this is normal, if a grown man wants something serious with a teenager then this is ok? Please explain.

Define "teenager". A 16 year old girl, as I said, is fully developed, both physically and mentally and an adult. While boys become fully developed when they are 19-20. And these vary even individually, as some people become fully developed earlier or later than that. "18 years old" is just some arbitrary age that humans chose for legal reasons and doesn't represent actual development or maturity.

Men being attracted to 16 year old girls is pretty normal actually, since the biological mechanism of men makes them attracted to youth, so they can have as many children with a woman as possible while she still is young. It's not pedophilia, since a 16-year old girl is fully developed.
I had a conversation with Father Satan on a Ouija board recently and he said the person would have to wait to be 18 to have sex with a Demon, but they can get into a platonic relationship earlier than that.
 
Not sure why my other reply wasn't approved yet while my newer posts were, but here goes, this is just what I've been told:

Father Satan told me on the Ouija Board that for sexual contact the person would have to wait to be 18 to have intercourse with their Demon/ess. But having a Demon lover at a younger age is possible too, just that you'd have to wait to have sex and intimate contact.
 

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