When to question everything and doubt everyone

[Dahaarkan]

I'd like to write a short post on a matter that to me at least, is very important.

I am always pushing and nudging people to think for themselves, to question everything and doubt everyone. So I'm going to expand on this a bit.

You should definitely be inquisitive, at any and all times, but you should also understand that there is a time and a place for questioning something or someone. I give my personal example, I have several questions on very sensitive topics, that I'd very much like to discuss.

Even though I'm starved to know answers, I never make topics on these, because it is not the time or place for such. Considering our dire situation, each and every one of us has a responsibility of being delicate enough to not post messages that create confusion, or potentially demoralize readers during these times.


No one demands that you bury any questions or doubts you may have, to simply obey without question. It is expected however that you be patient, and wait for the right time to express your questions or doubts, without damaging the people around you.

The right time, if you are wondering, is when you are not in immediate danger, and have other knowledgeable people willing to discuss the matter with you. As the world is on the brink of collapse we must remain focused on the task at hand.

When you ask a question you put said question in the mind of others. Left unanwered or worse, if the truth of the matter is demoralizing, you are destabilizing another Zevism, potentially harming the effectiveness of their Ritual and such.


A time will come when we can discuss advanced and sensitive matters openly. When it is not required that everyone be focused and comitted to a dire and urgent matter. Be patient, and who knows, perhaps with time you will even answer those questions yourself.

This is what it means to be responsible with your right to question things. Knowing the time and place for such.

 

[Artisan]

Beautiful post! Thank you for the message. I will keep that in mind from now on!

 

[Satanfire666]

I do understand but there is a lot of newpies (like me as example) that need to know more about things here Knowing that I am an Arab, I need to ask about a lot of things that are not familiar to my culture (like the occult stuff)

 

[truth.seeker1]

Makes sense, I guess.

As much as I find the recent flow of events around JOS to be rather distasteful, the general good of the community takes priority here. If anything, we wouldn't even be online past december to have any luxury of bickering in the first place, if it wasn't for HP Cobra. So long as he keep us afloat, he gets a pass from me.

 

[Aquarius]

I do understand but there is a lot of newpies (like me as example) that need to know more about things here Knowing that I am an Arab, I need to ask about a lot of things that are not familiar to my culture (like the occult stuff)

Everything that a newbie needs is on the main websites.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

I do understand but there is a lot of newpies (like me as example) that need to know more about things here Knowing that I am an Arab, I need to ask about a lot of things that are not familiar to my culture (like the occult stuff)

You can ask any question you want. There are threads and forums. That's what this is about.

However, your best time investment is to read all of the JoS material. Most of the time, your question can be answered in just the next page you will read there.

 

[Satanfire666]

I do understand but there is a lot of newpies (like me as example) that need to know more about things here Knowing that I am an Arab, I need to ask about a lot of things that are not familiar to my culture (like the occult stuff)

You can ask any question you want. There are threads and forums. That's what this is about.

However, your best time investment is to read all of the JoS material. Most of the time, your question can be answered in just the next page you will read there.

Thanks alot all of you guys :mrgreen: my goal is to be a strong magician spicaly when it comes to runic magick and color magick too.

 

[Syd Silver]

When to question everything

Interesting point of view, but this only if you look from one side
It is very true that we must remain focused on what we have to do - war against the enemy is the priority.

But at the same time we need to move forward spiritually, we need to evolve and we need to help other people do the same

Don't expect that everyone will have the patience to wait for the right day when we won't be in danger and we can talk openly
And why would they wait ?! When they have someone who can answer their questions

There is nothing wrong with asking questions but we must make a clear distinction between a legitimate question asked by a legitimate member and a question asked by an infiltrator / troll in order to create mistrust and to put doubts on the JoS

For old members it is not difficult to make this distinction but for new members it is almost impossible and infiltrations / enemy take advantage of this. Maybe in the future this aspect will be solved as well.

 

[hailourtruegod]

I can honestly I have been going about things on here in the way you mentioned. I also sometimes wait to ask something until I have successfully figured how to properly and thoroughly ask what exactly I want to know. Amazing breakdown. Thank you brother.

 

[hailourtruegod]

I do understand but there is a lot of newpies (like me as example) that need to know more about things here Knowing that I am an Arab, I need to ask about a lot of things that are not familiar to my culture (like the occult stuff)

Just back up what HP Zevios Metathronos said about usually being able to find answer on the next page when reading the main sites. I myself and I remember reading others saying the same that we would have a question pop up in our minds while reading the main sites and so many times the next page would answer us. Best wishes brother

 

[Sundara]

Thank you for stating this, I hadn’t previously had this thought.

 

[Tyliron]

Doctor's doing open brain surgery. Let's be asking a question right now. *knocks door down* (my questions are not to be held back).

Oh goodness that gave me a much needed chuckle. I do appreciate your patience with some folk, despite them needing to have some trust in their fellows, a need to read more, or just some basic sense 'smacked into them'. I do not envy your position of handling the forums.

 

[Arcadia [NG]]

At the end of the day, there's going to be a distinction between newer members and the people who have been at this for a time.

For me personally, although it might sound like a selfish statement at first glance, there's a little more nuance to it. Would I like to know more about current going-ons? Of course, anyone would be. But ultimately my most burning questions are all entirely personal and about my own path, my own progress.

At the end of the day, it's going to be easier for more experienced members to put everything aside. For me, my loyalty is to the Gods. I've been at this long enough to know the legitimacy of the path, of spiritual development, and of spiritual warfare. Even if the JoS collapsed tomorrow, scoured from the web, devoid of leadership and without community, I'd still follow the creed. Perform my power meditations, do my Rituals.

Obviously that's not going to happen, but my point is, people have an issue, conflating the movement with the goal, in the wrong ways. In the hypothetical universe the JoS did not exist, the war against the enemy and spiritual development would still be the righteous path of truth and justice.

My loyalty to the JoS stems from the fact it is the movement that has provided me these means. And from my own experiences, I know all of it is legitimate, and that'll never change.

Point is, for those who are in the midst of internal conflict, and are pushing for answers to questions they think they need right here and now, the real answer is that one should focus more inward. The fact you should fight and progress remains fact regardless of what happens here on the forums. The JoS is simply a face of a resistance and a path you should know is the truth by now.

And if you care about the success of that movement, you'd do well not to demoralize the people who are still on shaky ground regarding their own spiritual path. If you're just starting out, you lack for experiences. And if you lack for experiences, your faith is based on the testimonials of online strangers, which is a dubious thing at best for the most part. It's really only when you develop far enough that you have these experiences for yourself, does personal loyalty and self-assurance about the truth manifest. It's easy for me to believe every word Cobra says. Not because I'm a gullible fool who wants nothing more than to kiss ass. But, my own experiences, and the development of my own persona and moralities align to the point where I feel little to no need to question otherwise. It's simple spiritual instinct, and I feel kinship and understanding with the statements provided.

All things said and done, planting doubt into the minds of such people is not a great move for the overall hygiene of the movement. This isn't say one should not be curious, but your greatest curiosities should always be the personal ones that pertain most to you. It's only human to have doubt, but truth be told, doubt is best answered by progress. One question answered now, but in the mind of the undeveloped person, this will quickly lead to more, as doubts propagate, as there'll always be more doubt until one reaches a certain threshold. Instead, these doubts could be quelled for good by simple effort and practice.

 

[Ninja 666]

Doctor's doing open brain surgery. Let's be asking a question right now. *knocks door down* (my questions are not to be held back).

Hey doc, did you know your wife gets it on with someone else at your home? Not that I have any evidence, but she might? I suspect she is cheating on your right now doc?

"That's me exercising my rights to Freedom of Speech, and if you don't accept this, you're a shill dictator. Imagine the doctor didn't like my allegation. Lol!"

I mean I know the doctor probably failed with the scapel when I bursted the door down, or that if the patient even survived, the doctor will probably experience emotional failure to not continue the surgery, leading to the patient's death, but I just had to ask.

Or maybe my mind was too little to comprehend how it would go. I just wanted to 'question' while I was slandering I guess? This doctor is making more money than me, I always hated them for it. Here comes the hospital security to beat my ass out of the hospital. Oh hell naw, oppressors.

Maybe I'll be beat by the hospital security, but that's because I'm really really smart and I make the appropriate slander, sorry, I meant questioning. I'm so smart the security had to beat my ass over this little incident. The doctor got fired and the patient is dead.

But at least I got to ask my question in the manner I saw fit.

I'd delete my other post, if it didn't go so well with this and Dahaarkan's post.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Ok thanks.

Did you ever see alien Grey's?

People may have the unfortunate situation of seeing them sometimes with a functional third eye, because they attack us spiritual practitioners when we try to meditate, to keep us spiritually at the level of vermin.

 

[Pisces]

I do understand but there is a lot of newpies (like me as example) that need to know more about things here Knowing that I am an Arab, I need to ask about a lot of things that are not familiar to my culture (like the occult stuff)

Just back up what HP Zevios Metathronos said about usually being able to find answer on the next page when reading the main sites. I myself and I remember reading others saying the same that we would have a question pop up in our minds while reading the main sites and so many times the next page would answer us. Best wishes brother

To add to this, don’t forget the search function on the forums. Many answers to questions you have are likely already answered in a previous thread.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Ok thanks, I will keep an open mind to continue to grow.

We understand why you tried to promote New Age and so forth. In this case, since you are reading here, consider our position also. We don't mean "evil".

Certain people have experienced things. Maybe meditation will help you rectify things for yourself. Most people here were ex-christians, ex-new agers, ex-islam and so forth.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Some replies lately, are starting to give me these vibes as if we are in the some form of Platonic School. Where everyone has wonderful input and every-time you hear something your mind becomes stimulated.

No wonder the enemy is crapping their pants.

 

[Bluecollarbutch666]

Ok thanks.

Did you ever see alien Grey's?

People may have the unfortunate situation of seeing them sometimes with a functional third eye, because they attack us spiritual practitioners when we try to meditate, to keep us spiritually at the level of vermin.

Yes. during meditation and once in dreams. not pleasant. disgusting creatures. they feel absolutely cruel, cold and lifeless.

 

[Power of Justice [SG]]

Ok thanks.

Did you ever see alien Grey's?

People may have the unfortunate situation of seeing them sometimes with a functional third eye, because they attack us spiritual practitioners when we try to meditate, to keep us spiritually at the level of vermin.

Yes. during meditation and once in dreams. not pleasant. disgusting creatures. they feel absolutely cruel, cold and lifeless.

I always smell them first before I get a glimpse, just this overwhelming stench out of nowhere its really nauseating.

 

[darkmonkey666]

When people are newer it's actually better to kind of go along with things and read the site but as you grow in knowledge and power and understanding you can question things and you may find meditation stuff on your own or with help from the Gods not talked about here because some stuff just can't be released publicly right now. Not bad but the problem is for some newer members and some people in certain mindstates this constantly questioning everything is going to lead them either to obsessive worrying or to the enemy cause they get confused. Pythia was a big believer in free thought and questioning things. She did not always go along with what everyone thought on everything nor should anyone it gets to be kind of cliquish that way and after awhile it gets to the point of I don't know this for a fact but I am going to say it cause everyone else said it. That is not much different than the enemy programs.

After awhile if you actually advance you will know the truth. Not everything everyone goes on about or gets emotionally attached too even matters at all. Some arguments and fights really are about nothing that matters. Kind of remember that and don't let your emotions get the best of you. The goal is that people get better and more powerful everyday the world advances one person at a time and heals more every day. Eventually we will know the truth on everything and live according to it as an entire planet. But not everyone does right now not even all Zevism people. I don't either and probably you don't unless your almost a God which is not that common. That is why the Gods are still trying to teach us stuff.

But for sure there should be as much less fighting over stuff as possible.
The yehuborim want us fighting and not getting along we shouldn't do that.