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What should a Satanist's views on forgiveness be?

RamronDoree

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I'm looking for a bit of clarity...

I've recently been compelled to write about everything I've done in life, from my accomplishments to my shortcomings. In the process, I'm reviewing what I've done, what others have done to me, looking at the people that have come and gone along the way, and I started thinking about the nature of forgiveness.

Now, as far as I understand it, guilt and forgiveness are tools that the enemy uses to keep people oppressed and depressed as explained in Nietzschean schools of thought. Buddhists also have somewhat of an unhealthy relationship with forgiveness, lauding it over everyone as if they are superior to everyone else and as if they are incapable of wrongdoing.

Given this logic, if searching for forgiveness is something that robs me of power and agency, then, as a devotee of Satan, I should be wise to the fact and head for the hills.

I am curious, however, to know what the Satanic attitude to forgiveness is - giving or getting. Are there ever occasions where forgiveness is worth being sought after? Is there something so heinous that it can never be forgiven?

I also don't think forgiveness and trust are synonymous. I may eventually be able to forgive someone for doing something, but I may not trust them with that particular thing again. But, then, does forgiveness mean I should be open to the idea that they can earn my trust back?
 
It really is up to the indivual person somewhat at least what they want in their life and if they want to keep associating with someone etc. Forgiveness would more come in if a person is an honest good person but makes a mistake that harms someone. The person they harm knows they didn't intend it. That in my mind is ok and actually really good especially if the person tries to make it up to the other person.

However most the cases where forgiveness is used is just encouraging people to be a good victim.

The stuff with the xtians where someone comes in rapes you and murders your children and then you say "I forgive you" and visit the person in prison and try to show love to them (if you watch any crime documentaries you will know this kind of stuff happens a lot with xtians) that is pure sickness in my mind.

There is a point at which Justice needs to be done and forgiveness is not a good thing. If society ran on forgive everyone love everyone it would fall apart and crime would get out of control (That is kind of what is happening some places)

I think personally instead of people feeling sorry for stuff they should try to right it and correct it and if the person that feels they were wronged values the relationship they will forgive the person.

That it it kind of is a natural thing but twisted by the enemy.

Of course there is a lot of stuff that should not be forgiven or at least not without some kind of punishment.
 
Essentially, at the risk of a reduction ad absurdum, what I'm gathering is that this is something akin to risk management? Trust and forgive so long as it doesn't pose a threat to you?
 
PrometheusRex said:
Essentially, at the risk of a reduction ad absurdum, what I'm gathering is that this is something akin to risk management? Trust and forgive so long as it doesn't pose a threat to you?

It's judging everything carefully and making the appropriate decision. If there's more benefit in forgiving then do so. It would be bad to ruin a friendship just because someone did something once that he deeply regretted later. But there are other cases where forgiving a person is bad or dangerous. There are people who don't learn from their mistakes or who are psychic vampires and in that case it's better to remove them from your life completely.
 
A being may do anything they desire as long as they are capable. :cool:
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Bravera said:
A being may do anything they desire as long as they are capable. :cool:
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Horribly wrong.

Are you implying we should do whatever we want to?

So it is okay to get some pups and and kittens just to torture them?

No.

Always keep morals in mind. With every thing you do.

Just because we are able to curse most of people out there, should we torture them just because we want to?

No.

This is not even cool either.

This is just plain stupidity and cancer.
 
NinRick said:
Bravera said:
A being may do anything they desire as long as they are capable. :cool:
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Horribly wrong.

Are you implying we should do whatever we want to?

So it is okay to get some pups and and kittens just to torture them?

No.

Always keep morals in mind. With every thing you do.

Just because we are able to curse most of people out there, should we torture them just because we want to?

No.

This is not even cool either.

This is just plain stupidity and cancer.

I want you to honestly consider if what I said is actually Stupid or Wrong?
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You have the choice, and you could do something, but there will be consequences. There are even consequences when you do not take action.

What is your opinion on the militaries use of torture to obtain valuable information that could save lives?
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I do have morals NinRick, no I would never torture an animal. I just want you to think logically.
 
NinRick said:
Bravera said:
A being may do anything they desire as long as they are capable. :cool:
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Horribly wrong.

Are you implying we should do whatever we want to?

So it is okay to get some pups and and kittens just to torture them?

No.

Always keep morals in mind. With every thing you do.

Just because we are able to curse most of people out there, should we torture them just because we want to?

No.

This is not even cool either.

This is just plain stupidity and cancer.

It’s not cool to do anything you want, if this things are parasitic and cancer.

I just wanted to tell you, and everyone else that you always have to keep morals in mind.

I did not want to offend you.

But it sounded like you think that most on here are so cool, because we can do anything we want. And this triggered me a bit, sorry for that.
 

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