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What fuck is the point of envy/jealousy? Why would someone do this?

sinbad

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I don't understand why someone would do this.

I excused this person's behaviour because I thought all those years ago, their betrayal was due to misunderstanding of which they felt justified to hurt me.

But today I found out they did it out of pure envy, jealousy and malice.

Their actions led to a chain of events which cost me the last 10 years of extreme pain and sufferring.

Prior to that, my life was perfect. I did not understand why, but people loved me automatically, even those I did not know. Everyone would compliment me and praise me behind my back and literally revered me - no one had any issues with me. And only positive things to say. I had everything. Handsomeness, charisma, girls, money, gifts from strangers, 190 IQ top of everything instant master of every skill I attempted, life was a movie. I was practically a local celebrity.

And it was totally unconscious on my part. I did not even know why people treated me well, I just existed and was authentically myself. Absolutely unconscious about anything.

And I guess he hated that fact. And this was a male too btw, I did not expect this indirect bullshit feminine sabotage from a guy. If he wanted to fight it out we could've just done so.

He literally tried to mould his life and personality after mine after this and still copies me

I was a sweet and innocent boy back then who showed only kindness and warmth to everyone. Never had a single bad thought or intention to another soul in my life - not even a tiny bit, not even for a single second.

And this person became my friend for no other reason than to destroy me. But why? I even gave them money when I had barely enough for myself, friendship, help with their difficulties, trusted them.

But they only got close to me in order to sabotage and ruin my life, social life and reputation because they felt inferior

They even pretended I wronged them somehow, to guilt me. Spread fake screenshots of texts. Lied about me.

All these years I thought it was my own fault.

For what fucking reason?

Why would someone even do this, logically? I don't understand envy/jealousy or why it exists.

The spiral after that led to my complete downfall. My neurosurgeon university prospects, everything went to shit. Sufferred in complete loneliness and isolation which deterioriated my social skills.

Not only did they rob me of my youth, but all the people I would've naturally helped with my generosity had they not done this.

What the fuck is envy and what purpose does it serve as a human emotion

What drives a person to do this?

I even forgave, and made excuses not to curse him, because I thought it was stupidity or misunderstanding on his part.

But I am having second thoughts.
 
I don't understand why someone would do this.

I excused this person's behaviour because I thought all those years ago, their betrayal was due to misunderstanding of which they felt justified to hurt me.

But today I found out they did it out of pure envy, jealousy and malice.

Their actions led to a chain of events which cost me the last 10 years of extreme pain and sufferring.

Prior to that, my life was perfect. I did not understand why, but people loved me automatically, even those I did not know. Everyone would compliment me and praise me behind my back and literally revered me - no one had any issues with me. And only positive things to say. I had everything. Handsomeness, charisma, girls, money, gifts from strangers, 190 IQ top of everything instant master of every skill I attempted, life was a movie. I was practically a local celebrity.

And it was totally unconscious on my part. I did not even know why people treated me well, I just existed and was authentically myself. Absolutely unconscious about anything.

And I guess he hated that fact. And this was a male too btw, I did not expect this indirect bullshit feminine sabotage from a guy. If he wanted to fight it out we could've just done so.

He literally tried to mould his life and personality after mine after this and still copies me

I was a sweet and innocent boy back then who showed only kindness and warmth to everyone. Never had a single bad thought or intention to another soul in my life - not even a tiny bit, not even for a single second.

And this person became my friend for no other reason than to destroy me. But why? I even gave them money when I had barely enough for myself, friendship, help with their difficulties, trusted them.

But they only got close to me in order to sabotage and ruin my life, social life and reputation because they felt inferior

They even pretended I wronged them somehow, to guilt me. Spread fake screenshots of texts. Lied about me.

All these years I thought it was my own fault.

For what fucking reason?

Why would someone even do this, logically? I don't understand envy/jealousy or why it exists.

The spiral after that led to my complete downfall. My neurosurgeon university prospects, everything went to shit. Sufferred in complete loneliness and isolation which deterioriated my social skills.

Not only did they rob me of my youth, but all the people I would've naturally helped with my generosity had they not done this.

What the fuck is envy and what purpose does it serve as a human emotion

What drives a person to do this?

I even forgave, and made excuses not to curse him, because I thought it was stupidity or misunderstanding on his part.

But I am having second thoughts.
Some people are evil and sociopathic, you learned a lesson.

Now you won’t be kind to everyone because not everyone deserves that type of treatment, some need to be crushed like cockroaches.

Learn and move on and grow again. He might be the trigger that caused your downfall but the downfall was yours, and we fall so we can rise up harder and more mature.

You’ve learned discernment, it’s a gift because being kind and true without borders and infinite generosity will bring downfall, if not with that person with another person in a higher level.
 
The answer is that this person had a very low, negative view of themselves. It was never about you. They felt really shitty about themselves and projected that insecurity into you by seeing in their eyes how much better than them you are.

You just happened to be the target of this person’s projection.

Jealousy is never about the other guy, it’s about seeing the ideal version of oneself in others but not in oneself, creating a strong emotional dissonance. They don’t just feel robbed by you but by fate itself, and ruining you is “getting back” at fate much more than it is about going after you.

It’s parasitic and will only make this person feel shittier about themselves the more they do this and dwell in this. All they think they can do is pull others down but if they just tried to lift themselves up, they could end that parasitic cycle and stop being envious as they’ll get what they wanted if they put in the work.
 
I have full empathy for your situation and you have my regards for surviving it without damage, but I'll give the pragmatic answer.

We do not live in the world of Forms, we live in Maya, and every human lives in their little Universe. One where things are distorted, and the patterns that the Gods represent aren't manifested coherently.

The world is chaotic and life is a bitch and a half sometimes. We ride the chaos and as people of the Gods we strive to generate order where we can, working towards a better world.

People's ignorance drives them to wild conclusions and to even wilder actions. It happens. This does not devalue your lived experience and your very real pain. Emotions are there to be experienced.
Learned from, sure, but sometimes, the deeper purpose is one we build. The "real purpose, regardless of our choices" is just that life can be a feisty bitch.
 
I don't understand why someone would do this.

I excused this person's behaviour because I thought all those years ago, their betrayal was due to misunderstanding of which they felt justified to hurt me.

But today I found out they did it out of pure envy, jealousy and malice.

Their actions led to a chain of events which cost me the last 10 years of extreme pain and sufferring.

Prior to that, my life was perfect. I did not understand why, but people loved me automatically, even those I did not know. Everyone would compliment me and praise me behind my back and literally revered me - no one had any issues with me. And only positive things to say. I had everything. Handsomeness, charisma, girls, money, gifts from strangers, 190 IQ top of everything instant master of every skill I attempted, life was a movie. I was practically a local celebrity.

And it was totally unconscious on my part. I did not even know why people treated me well, I just existed and was authentically myself. Absolutely unconscious about anything.

And I guess he hated that fact. And this was a male too btw, I did not expect this indirect bullshit feminine sabotage from a guy. If he wanted to fight it out we could've just done so.

He literally tried to mould his life and personality after mine after this and still copies me

I was a sweet and innocent boy back then who showed only kindness and warmth to everyone. Never had a single bad thought or intention to another soul in my life - not even a tiny bit, not even for a single second.

And this person became my friend for no other reason than to destroy me. But why? I even gave them money when I had barely enough for myself, friendship, help with their difficulties, trusted them.

But they only got close to me in order to sabotage and ruin my life, social life and reputation because they felt inferior

They even pretended I wronged them somehow, to guilt me. Spread fake screenshots of texts. Lied about me.

All these years I thought it was my own fault.

For what fucking reason?

Why would someone even do this, logically? I don't understand envy/jealousy or why it exists.

The spiral after that led to my complete downfall. My neurosurgeon university prospects, everything went to shit. Sufferred in complete loneliness and isolation which deterioriated my social skills.

Not only did they rob me of my youth, but all the people I would've naturally helped with my generosity had they not done this.

What the fuck is envy and what purpose does it serve as a human emotion

What drives a person to do this?

I even forgave, and made excuses not to curse him, because I thought it was stupidity or misunderstanding on his part.

But I am having second thoughts.
I think people like this deserve divine justice for the edification of those who ruin the lives of others because of their own insecurity, may jealousy be cursed in all its manifestations.
 
The thing is, he was all smiles and compliments himself, I had no reason to suspect anything. I didn't have a radar to detect that sort of thing back then, I was only 16

Maybe it was out of naivete, but I'm not sure what to take from this, since I don't want to pretend I'm incompetent in order to avoid people's envy

It seems so illogical and pointless tho

How/why wud tearing me down make them feel better? What does that change? They're still the same?

If anything, it shud confirm their own patheticness to themselves, I'd have thought? Bcoz why else wud u feel a need. Cudve just tried to improve yourself instead to compete with me or something at least

And I was just some guy, not like their rival on a sport or something—they wud not lose nothing

Thank you. Well, the one silver lining is, I don't know if I would've found the Gods/ToZ otherwise. I would've been too busy living the good life. I will console myself with this. And instead, whatever success I gain now, let it go towards the Gods and their Kingdom. I will make use of the hand fate gave me.

Well let's just say, they will be experiencing the wrath of the Heavens, and not just my own. Let them be consumed by envy and self-destruction.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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