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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "keredd1010" <derek.davila10@... wrote:
They teach us all these so we apply them to improve our lives without
depending on
them!! They are our "Gurus", our teachers and guides.
So the only reason to summon demons is so that they teach us how to use
our own powers? I've looked through joyofsatan.org and I see plenty of
information on how to summon particular demons using their sigils and
each demon has a description of what they specialize in. This is why I
get the impression that the gods are there for more than "spiritual
guidance" which is pretty much the same crap the xian church throws at
you. They tell you crap like "God only helps those who help themselves"
which is a cop-out IMO.
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666"
<the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
BTW both of your questions somehow assume that the occult has
something to do with entities and depending on them. While in the Yehuborim'
case may be true, the entire point of true occultism and spiritual
development is awakening and using your own powers of your mind and soul
without depending on any entities. Merely using your mind/soul powers to
bring changes in the material world. Real magick doesn't involve any
entities at all, it only involves the raising, manipulation and
programming of energy.
Now where are our Gods' roles in that? Of course they are here to
teach us spiritual techniques on how to awaken our souls and their
powers. Techniques commonly called "power meditation", "yoga", "magick",
"mantras" e.t.c. They teach us all these so we apply them to improve our
lives without depending on them!! They are our "Gurus", our teachers and
guides.
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666"
the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
What is the "Grimoire of Abramelin" and the "Key of Solomon" and
which language are both originally written in? Answer these and you
answer both your questions
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "keredd1010" <derek.davila10@
wrote:
They(the Yehuborim) are trying to enslave humanity by destroying all
the
occult
knowledge and keeping it to the hands of the 'chosen' few.
So you mean that the Yehuborim actually secretly practice the Occult to
control us? Which entities or gods to the pray to and use? Is it
the
same "demons" that is under Satan's dominion?
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "blacksun1142"
<blacksun1142@
wrote:
The xian god is basically a thoughtform and the people who
believe in
this scam feed it with energy. The angels are enemy entities.
They(the Yehuborim) are trying to enslave humanity by destroying all
the
occult knowledge and keeping it to the hands of the 'chosen' few.
Their
aim is to spiritually enslave the gentiles and keep them under
this
filthy spell unable to go against them.
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "keredd1010"
derek.davila10@
wrote:
Hello all. I currently do not follow any particular religion
and I
would consider myself an agnostic. I believe that there may well
be
higher powers and energies although I have not experienced it
myself. I
recently stumbled upon the joyofsatan.org web site and found it
quite
intriguing. I am interested in learning more about the belief and
wish
to ask some questions.
My first question would be who or what is the Xian god? What
are his
angels? If their mission is to simply destroy us then why don't
they
simply do it?
Thank you in advance.
BTW I did try and find these answers and the answers to other
questions on my own at the web site but many of the links are
dead. I
wanted to learn more about the creation for example and the link
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ATION.html
goes no where.