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Using "Not" in an affirmation

Avatarluis1 min to read

I've read many times that the mind doesn't understand negations, is this true? Should avoid it in my affirmation? Or it's just fake?

#20
Stormbloodsaid:
Egonsaid:

If you use "not" then by definition it's not an affirmation, it's a denial. Just state what you want to achieve/improve, there is no need to remind yourself what you don't want.

As Egon said.

I can understand that it is useful for most affirmations but what i'm doing it is working. If i say for example:"I'm not an alchoholic anymore" wouldn't still work? (Don't worry i don't drink lol)
Of course if i say something like:"I'm compleatily free from any craving for alchohol forever..." Is better but i do thik the first one would work fine.

At the end what matter the most is your will, isn't it?

#21
luissaid:
Stormbloodsaid:
Egonsaid:

If you use "not" then by definition it's not an affirmation, it's a denial. Just state what you want to achieve/improve, there is no need to remind yourself what you don't want.

As Egon said.

I can understand that it is useful for most affirmations but what i'm doing it is working. If i say for example:"I'm not an alchoholic anymore" wouldn't still work? (Don't worry i don't drink lol)
Of course if i say something like:"I'm compleatily free from any craving for alchohol forever..." Is better but i do thik the first one would work fine.

At the end what matter the most is your will, isn't it?

That's what I think. Will is more important than the specific words we use in affirmations. HPS Shannon has mentioned once that she didn't use affirmations for squares (I don't remember if material or spiritual, but it was the one type they say doesn't require affirmations), and it worked for her. Because she programmed the energy with her will.

But I think this depends on each person's current will power. Depending on that, I believe words can influence our will a lot.

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#22
luissaid:
Stormbloodsaid:
Egonsaid:

If you use "not" then by definition it's not an affirmation, it's a denial. Just state what you want to achieve/improve, there is no need to remind yourself what you don't want.

As Egon said.

I can understand that it is useful for most affirmations but what i'm doing it is working. If i say for example:"I'm not an alchoholic anymore" wouldn't still work? (Don't worry i don't drink lol)
Of course if i say something like:"I'm compleatily free from any craving for alchohol forever..." Is better but i do thik the first one would work fine.

At the end what matter the most is your will, isn't it?

I would say so; however, speaking words is also vibration, so they do add in to it somewhat.

(Despite the vibration of affirmations being a power number of times (e.g. 9 times), the vibrations of Runes and Sanskrit words are larger (e.g. 88, 108, or 111 times), so with that in mind, you could think of it like the Rune/Sanskrit words as a liquid, with different Runes/Sanskrit words being different types of liquids as per the goal of the working; the number of vibrations being the strength of the liquid; and the relevant colour of the liquid, also as per the Chakras, corresponding to the working; and the affirmations being like a membrane or container for it. This newly-created tool can then manifest your desire in Physicality. I use 'liquid' here because it can be held in any shape - any tool one may wish to create for manifestations of things into relevant situations in Physicality.)

Once a Mage is advanced enough, s/he need not say the affirmations; their will, intent, and focus alone are good enough. I think words can also help focus the Mind for the working, so it might not be as much semantics as it is vibration as it is will/intent as it is psychology, but depending on how advanced you are they all play a part.

#23

Letters, numbers, geometry, and the patterns in which they are arranged are the building blocks of existences. Neglecting them can only lead one so far.

Egon was brilliant in explaining the difference between an affirmation and a negation, which I didn't even consider. Luis and everyone else, you're free to use what you want. However, to program the energy it's more efficient to use affirmations. Just study a little bit of linguistics. I close it here, before someone turns this into argument and start telling I'm bullying people for helping them understand how things work. Making mistakes is part of the growth process.

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#24
Stormbloodsaid:

before someone turns this into argument and start telling I'm bullying people for helping them understand how things work.

You're surely kidding but I wanted to say such ''someone'' would be completely stupid to say such things about you.
I just wanted to add ever since I dedicated back to the older forums you've always been part of those whom I look for their opinions. Egon & FancyMancy as well.^-^
Thank y'all for brushing off the doubt I had over this question.

#25
Stormbloodsaid:

Letters, numbers, geometry, and the patterns in which they are arranged are the building blocks of existences. Neglecting them can only lead one so far.

Egon was brilliant in explaining the difference between an affirmation and a negation, which I didn't even consider. Luis and everyone else, you're free to use what you want. However, to program the energy it's more efficient to use affirmations. Just study a little bit of linguistics. I close it here, before someone turns this into argument and start telling I'm bullying people for helping them understand how things work. Making mistakes is part of the growth process.

Like Thoth said, "In the beginning was the word"

My profile picture is just fun artwork and not spiritually, historically or geographically accurate. Tigers are primarily from Asia, not Egypt.

#26
Stormbloodsaid:

Letters, numbers, geometry, and the patterns in which they are arranged are the building blocks of existences. Neglecting them can only lead one so far.

Egon was brilliant in explaining the difference between an affirmation and a negation, which I didn't even consider. Luis and everyone else, you're free to use what you want. However, to program the energy it's more efficient to use affirmations. Just study a little bit of linguistics. I close it here, before someone turns this into argument and start telling I'm bullying people for helping them understand how things work. Making mistakes is part of the growth process.

Stormblood you are really helpful and we are just discussing :)

I do think you are right and of course i'm going to use affirmation until i become a God (so it's going to probabily takes some time :lol: ) but i do think the will is what matter the most, of course if you use "Will" in your affirmation it probabily not going to work because your subconcious know what "Will" means. For minor things i think it can work, at the least this is my experience but from now on i'm going to be careful to use the perfect affirmation.

#27

Stormblood is right, and this is not to take the first part of his last reply personally lol, but maybe I did not express myself quite correctly, so I'd also like to clarify that what I meant to infer with will and intent being more important than words, is that maybe in Luis case, his will itself had more effect over the words he used in his affirmation, and that's why it worked even though he used a negation.

But this is not the norm, so while each one has their own experience, it's undoubtedly more guaranteed to stick with positive affirmations.

And while we can also bring about our desires by will alone depending on our level like FancyMancy said, will and affirmations should ideally go hand-by-hand.

My profile picture is just fun artwork and not spiritually, historically or geographically accurate. Tigers are primarily from Asia, not Egypt.

#28

Hand-in-hand*

My profile picture is just fun artwork and not spiritually, historically or geographically accurate. Tigers are primarily from Asia, not Egypt.

#29
Shining Sloth 666said:

I just wanted to add ever since I dedicated back to the older forums you've always been part of those whom I look for their opinions. Egon & FancyMancy as well.^-^

:oops: <3

luissaid:

I do think you are right and of course i'm going to use affirmation until i become a God (so it's going to probabily takes some time :lol: ) but i do think the will is what matter the most, of course if you use "Will" in your affirmation it probabily not going to work because your subconcious know what "Will" means. For minor things i think it can work, at the least this is my experience but from now on i'm going to be careful to use the perfect affirmation.

What you said, about it taking a while, is an affirmation. You might not have uttered the words, but it's psychological (as I said) and that becomes the will, the more it is repeated.

If you want something, good advice that I think HPS Pythia said, is to say "now" - for example, "I am/have ______ now"; you are a God now. Of course, you have to do the proper workings and meditations, but the attitude and beliefs are also very important.

You might have been joking, and I took it too literally, but still, lol.

As for "perfect affirmation" if you are one to be disappointed after expecting something which didn't happen, then you should be careful not to do that.

#30
FancyMancysaid:
Shining Sloth 666said:

I just wanted to add ever since I dedicated back to the older forums you've always been part of those whom I look for their opinions. Egon & FancyMancy as well.^-^

:oops: <3

luissaid:

I do think you are right and of course i'm going to use affirmation until i become a God (so it's going to probabily takes some time :lol: ) but i do think the will is what matter the most, of course if you use "Will" in your affirmation it probabily not going to work because your subconcious know what "Will" means. For minor things i think it can work, at the least this is my experience but from now on i'm going to be careful to use the perfect affirmation.

I know about that but it would have been too weird if i said TOMORROW I'M A GOD! Lol

This is something that needs to be resolved, it's really not good if we say a joke or something else and this manifest in the reality even if we don't want that, i understand that we have to control what we say and think but if we can't joke then we are going to talk like robots lol

I'm sure there had to be something that can help with this, i want to be free to say something without fearing to manifest what i say, having the control with my 'magic'. Maybe programming my soul should work but i have to think to a good affirmation :?

I actualy found a topic in the Yahoo forum and i'm going to just leave here the link, the problem is still that i don't know what is the right affirmation for this type of working...
http://www.groups-archive.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23849&p=125536&hilit=Redirecting+Energy+to+prevent+negative+side+effects%3F#p125533

About the perfect affirmation i alway have 'faith' with my workings whatever affirmation i use, this doesn't mean that i shouldn't try to make the best affirmation that i can.

#31
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luissaid:
FancyMancysaid:
Shining Sloth 666said:

I just wanted to add ever since I dedicated back to the older forums you've always been part of those whom I look for their opinions. Egon & FancyMancy as well.^-^

:oops: <3

luissaid:

I do think you are right and of course i'm going to use affirmation until i become a God (so it's going to probabily takes some time :lol: ) but i do think the will is what matter the most, of course if you use "Will" in your affirmation it probabily not going to work because your subconcious know what "Will" means. For minor things i think it can work, at the least this is my experience but from now on i'm going to be careful to use the perfect affirmation.

I know about that but it would have been too weird if i said TOMORROW I'M A GOD! Lol

This is something that needs to be resolved, it's really not good if we say a joke or something else and this manifest in the reality even if we don't want that, i understand that we have to control what we say and think but if we can't joke then we are going to talk like robots lol

Lol.

With talking like robots, I expect some might start to become very 'religious', like the way christians are with their attitudes and all things, as we learn and advance. For example, every time someone says something, the religious individual must always correct them because they (might) think that they're an authourity on the subject, and they think that they are helping them. They might not mean to be rigid and anal about it, though. I suppose for some people, it is a natural behaviour which they'll out-grow eventually.

The Solar Chakra is to strengthen the will - and I don't need to say how important that is (no anal retentiveness, and no rigidity! Lol.).

Thanks for the link.

For the faith in spoken words manifesting, I have taken that quite seriously, just to be safe. I consider it to be good practice.

#32
Nick Vabzircnilasaid:
Stormbloodsaid:

Letters, numbers, geometry, and the patterns in which they are arranged are the building blocks of existences. Neglecting them can only lead one so far.

Egon was brilliant in explaining the difference between an affirmation and a negation, which I didn't even consider. Luis and everyone else, you're free to use what you want. However, to program the energy it's more efficient to use affirmations. Just study a little bit of linguistics. I close it here, before someone turns this into argument and start telling I'm bullying people for helping them understand how things work. Making mistakes is part of the growth process.

But see, you didn't close anything here. You re-opened something.

Passive aggressiveness isn't. So if you have something to say, you can return to the topic of the incident you're referring to and say it there. Playing the victim doesn't make you any less of the abuser.

Your misunderstandings are not my concern. This topic is about "Using Not in an affirmation" or should rather be called "Turning an Affirmation into a Negation."

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#33
FancyMancysaid:
Shining Sloth 666said:

I just wanted to add ever since I dedicated back to the older forums you've always been part of those whom I look for their opinions. Egon & FancyMancy as well.^-^

:oops: <3

luissaid:

I do think you are right and of course i'm going to use affirmation until i become a God (so it's going to probabily takes some time :lol: ) but i do think the will is what matter the most, of course if you use "Will" in your affirmation it probabily not going to work because your subconcious know what "Will" means. For minor things i think it can work, at the least this is my experience but from now on i'm going to be careful to use the perfect affirmation.

That's really good advice. I started incorporating NOW in my affirmation in the last two weeks and it has made them more powerful. Thank you, guys.

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Last update: 27/07/2025 (check later for some links going online)

Apologies if I'm being slow on private messages. I will get back to you at some point.

Heil Zeus!
Heil Apollo!
Satanama!

#34
Stormbloodsaid:
FancyMancysaid:
Shining Sloth 666said:

I just wanted to add ever since I dedicated back to the older forums you've always been part of those whom I look for their opinions. Egon & FancyMancy as well.^-^

:oops: <3

luissaid:

I do think you are right and of course i'm going to use affirmation until i become a God (so it's going to probabily takes some time :lol: ) but i do think the will is what matter the most, of course if you use "Will" in your affirmation it probabily not going to work because your subconcious know what "Will" means. For minor things i think it can work, at the least this is my experience but from now on i'm going to be careful to use the perfect affirmation.

That's really good advice. I started incorporating NOW in my affirmation in the last two weeks and it has made them more powerful. Thank you, guys.

I use now in most of my affirmations too and it is definitily powerful :)

For some reasons i belive our subconcious know what those words mean and this is why using affirmations work really well, certain words have meaning for us and this meaning are embended in our subconcious. This is why i think the will play an important role in all of this.

#35
Stormbloodsaid:
Nick Vabzircnilasaid:
Stormbloodsaid:

Letters, numbers, geometry, and the patterns in which they are arranged are the building blocks of existences. Neglecting them can only lead one so far.

Egon was brilliant in explaining the difference between an affirmation and a negation, which I didn't even consider. Luis and everyone else, you're free to use what you want. However, to program the energy it's more efficient to use affirmations. Just study a little bit of linguistics. I close it here, before someone turns this into argument and start telling I'm bullying people for helping them understand how things work. Making mistakes is part of the growth process.

But see, you didn't close anything here. You re-opened something.

Passive aggressiveness isn't. So if you have something to say, you can return to the topic of the incident you're referring to and say it there. Playing the victim doesn't make you any less of the abuser.

Your misunderstandings are not my concern. This topic is about "Using Not in an affirmation" or should rather be called "Turning an Affirmation into a Negation."

I misunderstood nothing. You were clearly referring to the Physical Exercise thread (https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10747) when you wrote that people might "turn this into an argument" and accuse you of "bullying people". As this was the mantra you kept repeating in that thread as well after I called you out on being an asshole no reason and blame-shifting, which I proved beyond any doubt. The only difference is this time no one even challenged your opinion in any way. Yet you preemptively played a victim out of fear of being challenged. And then you try to distract by correcting the topic title which is completely irrelevant, lol. You clearly have some deep rooted delusional issues that you need to work on.

Not that it's my job in any way to point this out, I'm only responding because you obviously invoked me by repeating here what you accused me of doing (word-for-word) in the other thread. Passive aggressiveness isn't. And I won't take it.

#36
Stormbloodsaid:
FancyMancysaid:
Shining Sloth 666said:

I just wanted to add ever since I dedicated back to the older forums you've always been part of those whom I look for their opinions. Egon & FancyMancy as well.^-^

:oops: <3

luissaid:

I do think you are right and of course i'm going to use affirmation until i become a God (so it's going to probabily takes some time :lol: ) but i do think the will is what matter the most, of course if you use "Will" in your affirmation it probabily not going to work because your subconcious know what "Will" means. For minor things i think it can work, at the least this is my experience but from now on i'm going to be careful to use the perfect affirmation.

That's really good advice. I started incorporating NOW in my affirmation in the last two weeks and it has made them more powerful. Thank you, guys.

Yeah, I've been realising about self-imposed, and self-affirmed, limits. "I am very rich." <-- How much is very? That depends on each individual's perception. "I am/have (this thing)." <-- That's good, and will work towards you getting/being that, but it's open and not as direct as it could be; "...now" puts another parameter into it.

Another realisation I had is what percentage of our workings work, based on our abilities; will; being bothered; etc. Much less than 0.01% of Satan's would still be a heck of a lot more than mine. I might have to work at, for example, 300%+ greater than I could once my workings work efficiently; for my working, say only 20% of it would work effectively (for example). Adding "now" in, I think would improve that 20% upto...30%, for example, which would take less effort, which would bring results sooner. If you/anyone understands what I'm saying.

"Not" must be like an anti-parameter, i.e. null/zero/empty and ignored (but the will and our abilities still matter, as we've discussed).

#37
Nick Vabzircnilasaid:
Stormbloodsaid:
Nick Vabzircnilasaid:

But see, you didn't close anything here. You re-opened something.

Passive aggressiveness isn't. So if you have something to say, you can return to the topic of the incident you're referring to and say it there. Playing the victim doesn't make you any less of the abuser.

This is disappointing, to say the least.

Your misunderstandings are not my concern. This topic is about "Using Not in an affirmation" or should rather be called "Turning an Affirmation into a Negation."

I misunderstood nothing. You were clearly referring to the Physical Exercise thread (https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10747) when you wrote that people might "turn this into an argument" and accuse you of "bullying people". As this was the mantra you kept repeating in that thread as well after I called you out on being an asshole no reason and blame-shifting, which I proved beyond any doubt. The only difference is this time no one even challenged your opinion in any way. Yet you preemptively played a victim out of fear of being challenged. And then you try to distract by correcting the topic title which is completely irrelevant, lol. You clearly have some deep rooted delusional issues that you need to work on.

Not that it's my job in any way to point this out, I'm only responding because you obviously invoked me by repeating here what you accused me of doing (word-for-word) in the other thread. Passive aggressiveness isn't. And I won't take it.

Would you just STOP dragging this out any further?

If someone decides he does not want to talk about it or similar things any further then why are you insisting to do so?

#38
Nick Vabzircnilasaid:
Stormbloodsaid:
Nick Vabzircnilasaid:

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This is disappointing, to say the least.

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I would quote myself but as Im writing this the other reply hasn't been looked at yet.

Just wanted to say that I sound like my mom trying to break up a fight like that.. And I disliked that so I guess I won't attempt that anymore. You guys can just go catfight all you want but I guess this is an experience you have to make and need to solve on your own.

The reason that there was a fight in the first place back then (Im speaking about myself) was because of an ego clash. And since its a well known person to me that happened quite frequently.

#39
T.A.O.L.said:
Nick Vabzircnilasaid:
Stormbloodsaid:

Your misunderstandings are not my concern. This topic is about "Using Not in an affirmation" or should rather be called "Turning an Affirmation into a Negation."

I misunderstood nothing. You were clearly referring to the Physical Exercise thread (https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10747) when you wrote that people might "turn this into an argument" and accuse you of "bullying people". As this was the mantra you kept repeating in that thread as well after I called you out on being an asshole no reason and blame-shifting, which I proved beyond any doubt. The only difference is this time no one even challenged your opinion in any way. Yet you preemptively played a victim out of fear of being challenged. And then you try to distract by correcting the topic title which is completely irrelevant, lol. You clearly have some deep rooted delusional issues that you need to work on.

Not that it's my job in any way to point this out, I'm only responding because you obviously invoked me by repeating here what you accused me of doing (word-for-word) in the other thread. Passive aggressiveness isn't. And I won't take it.

Would you just STOP dragging this out any further?

If someone decides he does not want to talk about it or similar things any further then why are you insisting to do so?

I already explained my reason for replying. Now you're basically bumping the thread with muh feelz instead of looking at the substance of what was written. You may want to be more selective in who you choose to channel.