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Totally opposed to NS. Should I leave?

throwaway5683465

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Despite the openness with which I approached Nat Soc, I am still vehemently opposed to it on a soul level. It just makes my soul cry out in opposition too much. I am fully opposed to ORION. I refuse to serve others just because they are my race. I am fundamentally opposed to being confined in my career choices (this means being able to do jobs that might not be considered ‘careers’ yet) and even just forcing people in general to work. I am also opposed to being forced and confined to live in a geography based on my race.

I really tried to have an open mind, but NS genuinely makes my soul cry out in pain. I tried to be open, but it fundamentally goes against who I am at my core.

I’ve had a great experience spiritually with Satan and his Gods. But NS is claimed here as the politics of Satan himself, and everyone here is obsessed with NS and Hitler. I really just can’t stomach it.

NS and Hitler seem to be of the utmost importance to SS that I feel totally out of place and even like I am disrespecting and harming the group due to my extreme opposition to NS and Hitler.

Should I leave?
 
Basically all you think is fanciful and scary about the so called "NS", is just only an observation of reality. Most of the things in it are only things Pagans believed for thousands of years, such as understanding the differences of nature and it's species, and nothing else.

If you are in complete denial of reality or of the fact that the Gods have their race, and give us proper advice to grow our individual blueprint, and that this so called "Political" thing was the closest we have seen to this in hundreds of years, maybe then you can't comprehend it.

Eventually this path however will lead to this understanding, because as the mind sharpens and you become more spiritually intelligent, or rise into an order of spiritual rank, most of these will become realities that appear in front of a mind.

You can ignore the politics, but you cannot ignore reality. NS was a practical movement of it's time, but the ideals behind it were eternal, and they have existed since the Ancient Times. The adoption was the best the time and world could provide. And it went so well that they had to destroy it before the whole world followed through, which most was already going into that direction.

NS never denied the right of people to live abroad, travel, or natives of Europe or anything to go around the world. Work visa? Yes. Travel visa? Of course. Buying property in Germany? Yes. The idea that races have places of dwelling [or even planets] is nothing strange, it's just that humans nowadays are denying this.

Despite this, most people feel rooted to their homelands, and these have to do with large continents, not just small Nations.

This is the case with all species in this universe, they live somewhere, and have their dwelling. Polar bears live in the Poles, and so on, and not on the moon.

The NS system's policies were so great for National survival and safeguarding people, that Yehuborim have been adopting these for their homeland to no end.

Most of this wasn't so radically different than how a normal and sane Nation should behave today. The demonization of these normal behaviors is why most people can't take this.

There is also no confinement on any career. Nobody is born forced to follow a particular career. Also, this system existed on it's time, and as years went by and the world modernized, it was evolving and evolving itself.

In the NS Society, any child could choose it's destiny and what it wants to be. The State also boosted people to go after the things they chose to do. Now the state shits on most people and provides zero help, only demanding taxes. Therefore, most people hate their own Nation of residence for leaving them unsupported, and they have to leave.

Life today also forces you to "work", and this is done through wages and needing to live. Welfare and other things existed in NS Germany too as they existed in any other civilized country.

Maybe you can't exist in any real world since everything you complain about is basically what is already happening now in this world and happened before in every other human civilization.

Lastly don't pretend you have been with us for that long or anything, because you probably haven't been. Clearly, you have not meditated in any considerable amount of time.

Finally yes, you can stay, and you don't have to see the subject in a forced manner. But eventually it dawned to everyone here that this was truly the case, after reading normal information, and opening the mind to understand reality.
 
NS implemented in today's world with the new knowledge we have today wouldn't end up being different from the way things were in the ancient times that much. Maybe it would be better because we never had a unified world movement or leader before I don't think.

Why would you be opposed to this if you like the Pagan Gods and spirituality.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
Despite the openness with which I approached Nat Soc, I am still vehemently opposed to it on a soul level. It just makes my soul cry out in opposition too much. I am fully opposed to ORION. I refuse to serve others just because they are my race. I am fundamentally opposed to being confined in my career choices (this means being able to do jobs that might not be considered ‘careers’ yet) and even just forcing people in general to work. I am also opposed to being forced and confined to live in a geography based on my race.

I really tried to have an open mind, but NS genuinely makes my soul cry out in pain. I tried to be open, but it fundamentally goes against who I am at my core.

I’ve had a great experience spiritually with Satan and his Gods. But NS is claimed here as the politics of Satan himself, and everyone here is obsessed with NS and Hitler. I really just can’t stomach it.

NS and Hitler seem to be of the utmost importance to SS that I feel totally out of place and even like I am disrespecting and harming the group due to my extreme opposition to NS and Hitler.

Should I leave?

You don’t have to swallow everything right away. When I was new I was also totally against the idea of NS, Hitler and so much more. I just told myself that I am a Satanist before everything.

You should do the same. In time you will start understanding just like I did.
 
This is likely to be a troll because it has a username similar to a long-standing member.
 
Master said:
This is likely to be a troll because it has a username similar to a long-standing member.
Throwaway means that the account is just made to ask a question and then never use it again. Using the name throwaway for a long-term account isn't the best...
 
Meteor said:
Master said:
This is likely to be a troll because it has a username similar to a long-standing member.

It's a bit ironic that there's a long-standing member called "throwaway" when you think about it. It could well be a coincidence.

Basically, it's someone who has an account with a different name already, but he wants to post something controversial/trollish and he is too much of a coward to use his real account because this post will appear in his post history and someone like me may bring this up in case he posts something else trollish/controversial. So he created a "throwaway" account (that is, a temporary account) to avoid using his real one. This is something that Redditors usually do and name their accounts "throwawayxxxxxx" where xxxxxx is a random number. So I assume that person must also be a Redditor.

That "long standing member" probably uses the same tactic to post things from a throwaway account that he wouldn't normally post from his real one. It doesn't mean that both are the same or impersonating eachother.
 
Meteor said:
Master said:
This is likely to be a troll because it has a username similar to a long-standing member.

It's a bit ironic that there's a long-standing member called "throwaway" when you think about it. It could well be a coincidence.

It's alright. Some question may require privacy.
 
Meteor said:
It's a bit ironic that there's a long-standing member called "throwaway" when you think about it. It could well be a coincidence.

Aquarius said:
Throwaway means that the account is just made to ask a question and then never use it again. Using the name throwaway for a long-term account isn't the best...

Rational Satanist said:
Basically, it's someone who has an account with a different name already, but he wants to post something controversial/trollish and he is too much of a coward to use his real account because this post will appear in his post history and someone like me may bring this up in case he posts something else trollish/controversial. So he created a "throwaway" account (that is, a temporary account) to avoid using his real one. This is something that Redditors usually do and name their accounts "throwawayxxxxxx" where xxxxxx is a random number. So I assume that person must also be a Redditor.

That "long standing member" probably uses the same tactic to post things from a throwaway account that he wouldn't normally post from his real one. It doesn't mean that both are the same or impersonating eachother.

I am sure you have seen some attempts by infiltrators to forge long-standing usernames in order to lie and confuse people here.

There was another throwaway... some time ago talking about his personal spiritual progress on Kundalini and the Magnum Opus. I thought that member used that username really long term, but as you said, such a username would be very strange and inappropriate to use long term.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
It's alright. Some question may require privacy.

I see that this is about something else, thanks for clarifying HP Hooded Cobra.
 
One cannot live and exist without work. Work is sacred. There is hierarchy, development and advancement but these are always based on work.

Do you think that entrepreneurs and people in power do not have tasks and responsibilities and therefore do not work?

Do you think the body lives and functions without working?

Have you achieved, what you have achieved spiritually and materially without working?
 
….Just trying to be anonymous with my username here….

I believe there are valid reasons to not work for periods of time, including self-discovery, healing, prep/planning for the future, etc.

I also believe that people should have the freedom to establish residency wherever they choose. Residency is how jurisdictions gain power. I believe people should have the freedom to not be forced in a country without the option of fleeing. Right now, countries are like prisons that are free to abuse their captive, immobile subjects. Nobody can flee, and everyone is stuck with only the ‘fight’ option to combat abuse. This is unlike moving within the United States, where people are free to flee abusive states for less abusive ones. I think the United States model of freedom to change state residency should be applied to the world at large.

I guess maybe that means the Pagan Gods aren’t for me? lol
 
throwaway5683465 said:
….Just trying to be anonymous with my username here….

I believe there are valid reasons to not work for periods of time, including self-discovery, healing, prep/planning for the future, etc.

I also believe that people should have the freedom to establish residency wherever they choose. Residency is how jurisdictions gain power. I believe people should have the freedom to not be forced in a country without the option of fleeing. Right now, countries are like prisons that are free to abuse their captive, immobile subjects. Nobody can flee, and everyone is stuck with only the ‘fight’ option to combat abuse. This is unlike moving within the United States, where people are free to flee abusive states for less abusive ones. I think the United States model of freedom to change state residency should be applied to the world at large.

I guess maybe that means the Pagan Gods aren’t for me? lol

I agree with you on all points here. Why do think National Socialism doesn't. Also each of the main races has a large area they can live and usually several countries. For whites Europe the USA Canada For Asians China India Malaysia for Blacks all sorts of African countries. For Arabs Iran Iraq Turkey.

See there is no being in a prison here. In the ideal system as I see it instead of nations we would have something like Regions based upon the main races of the planet. I believe that is how it's done by the Gods. In the future we may have more I think Mars can be recovered. There is no being in a prison here. Under the National Socialist system people could visit live or work in other regions etc.

Also the whole monitary and economic system is created by the Enemy I agree with you on the work thing. I think the Gods do too there are some people here that haven't been deprogrammed fully yet or need to often be working out of necessity but other than this it wasn't the ideal system in the Age of Leo even work was fun and maybe not even done out of necessity yet everything was more productive than even now. What makes you think that isn't the plan for the future. We will get way more done in the future than now btw too Nordics will be sure of that lol 🤣 the worker bees.

You have to deal with what you are dealing with now. But work to change it. Do what you can and live your life how you want. Outside of a few rules such as not race mixing and trying to be healthy and advance you can live how you want.

Age of Aquarius will not be a time where you will have any concerns. I am confident the leaders of National Socialism would understand you. The problem your having is the commoners for the most part are still stuck on a lower level.

To me your projecting try to talk to the Gods about this.

I hope your not going to tell me you like the Yehuborim system the way it is. Your not free to do much you want under that system.
 
slyscorpion said:
throwaway5683465 said:
….Just trying to be anonymous with my username here….

I believe there are valid reasons to not work for periods of time, including self-discovery, healing, prep/planning for the future, etc.

I also believe that people should have the freedom to establish residency wherever they choose. Residency is how jurisdictions gain power. I believe people should have the freedom to not be forced in a country without the option of fleeing. Right now, countries are like prisons that are free to abuse their captive, immobile subjects. Nobody can flee, and everyone is stuck with only the ‘fight’ option to combat abuse. This is unlike moving within the United States, where people are free to flee abusive states for less abusive ones. I think the United States model of freedom to change state residency should be applied to the world at large.

I guess maybe that means the Pagan Gods aren’t for me? lol

I agree with you on all points here. Why do think National Socialism doesn't. Also each of the main races has a large area they can live and usually several countries. For whites Europe the USA Canada For Asians China India Malaysia for Blacks all sorts of African countries. For Arabs Iran Iraq Turkey.

See there is no being in a prison here. In the ideal system as I see it instead of nations we would have something like Regions based upon the main races of the planet. I believe that is how it's done by the Gods. In the future we may have more I think Mars can be recovered. There is no being in a prison here. Under the National Socialist system people could visit live or work in other regions etc.

Also the whole monitary and economic system is created by the Enemy I agree with you on the work thing. I think the Gods do too there are some people here that haven't been deprogrammed fully yet or need to often be working out of necessity but other than this it wasn't the ideal system in the Age of Leo even work was fun and maybe not even done out of necessity yet everything was more productive than even now. What makes you think that isn't the plan for the future. We will get way more done in the future than now btw too Nordics will be sure of that lol 🤣 the worker bees.

You have to deal with what you are dealing with now. But work to change it. Do what you can and live your life how you want. Outside of a few rules such as not race mixing and trying to be healthy and advance you can live how you want.

Age of Aquarius will not be a time where you will have any concerns. I am confident the leaders of National Socialism would understand you. The problem your having is the commoners for the most part are still stuck on a lower level.

To me your projecting try to talk to the Gods about this.

I hope your not going to tell me you like the Yehuborim system the way it is. Your not free to do much you want under that system.

The fact is if someone finds something they love doing it's not really work also. I kind of think in the future there will be some kind of thing where people are encouraged to find their place in society. People will naturally for the most part want to go to the country or region where they belong. People will naturally go into certain roles for the most part in society.

So the exceptions will have freedom without any force being used. Because everything needed already is there. So yeah you will have freedom under the natural system.

Dont tell me you yourself would want to live in China as a white person or something you probably won't. So that just proves my point. Each has a place or thing to fufill the world is one giant organism each cell has a function. When the cells are healthy they are free too but they are diseased now the world has AIDS. Literally the Yehuborim work exactly like aids.
 
slyscorpion said:
I agree with you on all points here. Why do think National Socialism doesn't. Also each of the main races has a large area they can live and usually several countries. For whites Europe the USA Canada For Asians China India Malaysia for Blacks all sorts of African countries. For Arabs Iran Iraq Turkey.

You do not agree with what I said. You think people should have a “large area” based on race. That is not the entire world.

Nat Soc totally represses and denies the nomad spirit. Yes, most people aren’t nomads. But if it wasn’t for some people being naturally nomadic, humanity wouldn’t be living in every stretch of the world, nor would there be all the different nation-states or races without the nomadic spirit. The USA would not exist without the nomadic spirit. America used to have no Europeans or white people.

I believe people should have the freedom to live wherever. Even if it is a region outside of their race.
 
slyscorpion said:
The fact is if someone finds something they love doing it's not really work also. I kind of think in the future there will be some kind of thing where people are encouraged to find their place in society. People will naturally for the most part want to go to the country or region where they belong. People will naturally go into certain roles for the most part in society.

How is this possible under authoritarianism? Especially when labor is being forced by a central government/authority, as other members in this thread confirmed. People need freedom to figure out who they are and their place in society.
 
I think you totally misunderstand what "National Socialism" is.


Nature itself is an authoritarian dictator but is benevolent. You follow the laws of nature or face extinction and chaos.


throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
The fact is if someone finds something they love doing it's not really work also. I kind of think in the future there will be some kind of thing where people are encouraged to find their place in society. People will naturally for the most part want to go to the country or region where they belong. People will naturally go into certain roles for the most part in society.

How is this possible under authoritarianism? Especially when labor is being forced by a central government/authority, as other members in this thread confirmed. People need freedom to figure out who they are and their place in society.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
I agree with you on all points here. Why do think National Socialism doesn't. Also each of the main races has a large area they can live and usually several countries. For whites Europe the USA Canada For Asians China India Malaysia for Blacks all sorts of African countries. For Arabs Iran Iraq Turkey.

You do not agree with what I said. You think people should have a “large area” based on race. That is not the entire world.

Nat Soc totally represses and denies the nomad spirit. Yes, most people aren’t nomads. But if it wasn’t for some people being naturally nomadic, humanity wouldn’t be living in every stretch of the world, nor would there be all the different nation-states or races without the nomadic spirit. The USA would not exist without the nomadic spirit. America used to have no Europeans or white people.

I believe people should have the freedom to live wherever. Even if it is a region outside of their race.

You are wrong about the Americas. The Americas have been colonised in the worst way imaginable. It's not about nomadism, it's about conquest.

The Russians also wanted to conquer the Americas and in Europe they slaved several countries. Speaking of the Americas, the Russians went as far as Los Angeles, but were defeated and driven out by the British, the Spanish and other Europeans.

Europeans should keep the territories they have conquered for themselves and not share them with anyone else. If Blacks, Arabs and Chinese wanted territories in the Americas, they had to earn and conquer them.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
The fact is if someone finds something they love doing it's not really work also. I kind of think in the future there will be some kind of thing where people are encouraged to find their place in society. People will naturally for the most part want to go to the country or region where they belong. People will naturally go into certain roles for the most part in society.

How is this possible under authoritarianism? Especially when labor is being forced by a central government/authority, as other members in this thread confirmed. People need freedom to figure out who they are and their place in society.

Authority is of paramount importance, whether centralised or decentralised. There is nothing worse than anarchy. Anarchy is chaos and injustice.

Speaking of work, in some circumstances, people can choose what work to do, but there are circumstances in which people may have little or no choice for the good of society.

On the other hand, whatever job you choose to do, you do it not only because you like it but also because it is necessary for others.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
The fact is if someone finds something they love doing it's not really work also. I kind of think in the future there will be some kind of thing where people are encouraged to find their place in society. People will naturally for the most part want to go to the country or region where they belong. People will naturally go into certain roles for the most part in society.

How is this possible under authoritarianism? Especially when labor is being forced by a central government/authority, as other members in this thread confirmed. People need freedom to figure out who they are and their place in society.
You are not put to digging trenches, you are being trained from young age what will be your future, and if that will not be right for you then you will be able to change to be the best of yourself in whatever field you want to be in.
Listen mate, nobody bans you from travelling, but what is the point of living in a place that has no people of your own race? It seems to me that you are missing the bigger picture and natural and healthy racial pride, the bigger picture is working for your race and its advancement and wanting to contribute to your race.

Yours looks just like a liberal world view of people who don't care about their race and just care about their individualistic lifestyle. National Socialism is a reflection of Spiritual Satanism, and there's nothing you can do about it other than grow and accept it, it's the applying of the natural laws to society.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
I agree with you on all points here. Why do think National Socialism doesn't. Also each of the main races has a large area they can live and usually several countries. For whites Europe the USA Canada For Asians China India Malaysia for Blacks all sorts of African countries. For Arabs Iran Iraq Turkey.

You do not agree with what I said. You think people should have a “large area” based on race. That is not the entire world.

Nat Soc totally represses and denies the nomad spirit. Yes, most people aren’t nomads. But if it wasn’t for some people being naturally nomadic, humanity wouldn’t be living in every stretch of the world, nor would there be all the different nation-states or races without the nomadic spirit. The USA would not exist without the nomadic spirit. America used to have no Europeans or white people.

I believe people should have the freedom to live wherever. Even if it is a region outside of their race.

Obviously you don't understand how the laws of nature work. Ok maybe some people can have communities outside the regions races are usually in provided they are not racially mixing with the locals but you want the Best example Detroit Chicago San Francisco ok tell me you would willingly choose to live in one of those cities and actually enjoy it. Didn't think so. Has full on mixing ever really fully turned out in a good way for the whole of a society in History. I really can't think of very many examples where it has and when it did work it only did for awhile until things started to degenerate as time went on.
 
slyscorpion said:
Nature itself is an authoritarian dictator but is benevolent.

How is nature a benevolent dictator? If anything, nature is a BRUTAL dictator.

Natural law is you die before age 30. Natural law is you die if you get an injury or illness. Natural law is you die if it gets too hot or too cold. Natural law is there are no man-made laws, structures, or societies (aka chaos).

It is a fallacy to think that just because something is natural that it is good. Nobody here blindly follows natural law because not all natural laws are good! Some are good, and the bad ones we tend to circumvent using technology.
 
slyscorpion said:
Best example Detroit Chicago San Francisco ok tell me you would willingly choose to live in one of those cities and actually enjoy it. Didn't think so. Has full on mixing ever really fully turned out in a good way for the whole of a society in History. I really can't think of very many examples where it has and when it did work it only did for awhile until things started to degenerate as time went on.

I was actually born and raised in one of those cities that you mentioned. You have absolutely no idea if you are blaming race for the crime and poverty issues there.

Even growing up I could have told you the issue. The State throws the book at law abiding citizens legally defending themselves, and focuses the rest of their effort on exploiting people through fees, penalties, and fines. Criminals are often not investigated or prosecuted. Then when crime is rampant, the State says “give us even more power!” and people do.

I currently live in a city with around 1 million. There has been no change in crime in my city since the riots of 2020, nor was there widespread violence in my city like the ones as seen on TV. The difference being, that I currently live in a state where people can defend themselves and there is police presence in my neighborhood. In fact, the police in my area immediately let go a driver who ran over a bunch of BLM/antifa for blocking their car. No arrest.

People have been moving in droves to my city from California, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, and New Jersey. If you think all cities are like Detroit, Chicago, or SF, you are completely wrong.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
hailourtruegod said:
Unless people want something unnatural like a libertarian dystopia

I do. Except I disagree that it would be a dystopia. Guess this place isn't for me...

Liberalism speaks in many rainbow colors about rights, but they seldom follow the facts about anything and they can therefore not guarantee any of these liberties in any realistic way.

Because by the time you want to actually provide liberties, then other things that may go contrary to these arise out of a default. For example, if you want to impose the law that gives freedom, imprisoning a criminal may be necessary. That's a simple example.

If you are corn fed only theory that cannot be applied to provide any rights, yes, a world will end up in a dystopia, with no rights, and nothing that can enforce them.
 
Meteor said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
throwaway5683465 said:
I do. Except I disagree that it would be a dystopia. Guess this place isn't for me...

Liberalism speaks in many rainbow colors about rights, but they seldom follow the facts about anything and they can therefore not guarantee any of these liberties in any realistic way.

Because by the time you want to actually provide liberties, then other things that may go contrary to these arise out of a default. For example, if you want to impose the law that gives freedom, imprisoning a criminal may be necessary. That's a simple example.

If you are corn fed only theory that cannot be applied to provide any rights, yes, a world will end up in a dystopia, with no rights, and nothing that can enforce them.

Well said. For there to be freedom, there needs to be justice; and yet for there to be justice, there need to be limits.

Even so, I worry: will authorities make mistakes when deciding where to put the limits, stripping people of their freedom in a way that does harm rather than prevents it? Then I wonder if perhaps the only way for a society to become truly fair, is for the majority of people within it to reach a higher level of understanding.

That kind of future, where civilians themselves are able to understand deep down what is right and wrong, no longer being distracted by the enemy's programs and other hoaxes, is something I always keep in mind when doing RTRs. That way, any injustice in a government's decisions would be opposed and overthrown, as the very foundation of a nation's power rests within its people.

Good replies.
In nature there has to be some type of authority and it's already been explained why very thoroughly and logically. I don't see how anyone can't understand this unless they're willfully not trying to understand. Asking questions is fine but what's the point when you don't want to listen to the rational and thought out answers to said questions.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
How is nature a benevolent dictator? If anything, nature is a BRUTAL dictator.

Natural law is you die before age 30. Natural law is you die if you get an injury or illness. Natural law is you die if it gets too hot or too cold. Natural law is there are no man-made laws, structures, or societies (aka chaos).

It is a fallacy to think that just because something is natural that it is good. Nobody here blindly follows natural law because not all natural laws are good! Some are good, and the bad ones we tend to circumvent using technology.
You’re a fucking idiot. It’s a fallacy to think that natural law means society has to be some anarcho-primitivist dump. You are very intellectually dishonest by purposefully refusing to understand and misconstruing what everyone has been telling you. I only see a subverter in you. You would use your main account if you weren’t such a rat.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
I agree with you on all points here. Why do think National Socialism doesn't. Also each of the main races has a large area they can live and usually several countries. For whites Europe the USA Canada For Asians China India Malaysia for Blacks all sorts of African countries. For Arabs Iran Iraq Turkey.

You do not agree with what I said. You think people should have a “large area” based on race. That is not the entire world.

Nat Soc totally represses and denies the nomad spirit. Yes, most people aren’t nomads. But if it wasn’t for some people being naturally nomadic, humanity wouldn’t be living in every stretch of the world, nor would there be all the different nation-states or races without the nomadic spirit. The USA would not exist without the nomadic spirit. America used to have no Europeans or white people.

I believe people should have the freedom to live wherever. Even if it is a region outside of their race.

"Large areas" are based on biological, psychological and cultural compatibility. What you are seeking is chaos, not freedom.

White people are incompatible with climates you have in very hot areas like the equator, for example. The farther they live from it, the better. Depending on the exact biological characteristics of a person, there will be an area that is most suitable to them. Climate influences many things, such as nutrition and psychological wellbeing. In other words, by living in the most appropriate area you'll be able to thrive, instead of barely surviving.

Black people should be living in most of Europe, for example. Northern Europe mainly and Central Europe too, as they are ill-suited to it. They will never reach full happiness like that. At the same rate, they could never live appropriately if they are too close to Antarctica. They need a lot of Sun and as direct as it is the closer you go to the Equator. Places like Ireland and Little Britain, for example, do not provide the right characteristics.

I can talk about other races too, new or old, but there is little point in doing so, as the laws of nature do not change.

Human beings are not such a species that can live "anywhere they want". They have required conditions they need to satisfy in order to thrive. You can compromise as much as you want in desperate times, but it's not going to bring you 100% happiness.

Being a nomad is not a natural state of being. Human beings are such that they bond with the land on a spiritual level, forming such strong connections that the more you advance the more it won't sit right with you to live somewhere where your roots cannot be grounded. Being a nomad is an impairment of your muladhara chakra (your root), which will be fixed as you advance, if you truly want to advance.

Sure, there are people who need variety and change, and they can do so by travelling and having holidays, not by doing something as unnatural as relocating every 3/6 months or whatever your plan was. Do you want to grow and uplift yourself, or do you want to barely cope? This is a decision you have to make yourself. Even if there were free borders and free citizenship for everyone, nature will always follow its and only impaired people would change residency on a whim, while the rest will look to settle and put down their roots.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
Best example Detroit Chicago San Francisco ok tell me you would willingly choose to live in one of those cities and actually enjoy it. Didn't think so. Has full on mixing ever really fully turned out in a good way for the whole of a society in History. I really can't think of very many examples where it has and when it did work it only did for awhile until things started to degenerate as time went on.

I was actually born and raised in one of those cities that you mentioned. You have absolutely no idea if you are blaming race for the crime and poverty issues there.

Even growing up I could have told you the issue. The State throws the book at law abiding citizens legally defending themselves, and focuses the rest of their effort on exploiting people through fees, penalties, and fines. Criminals are often not investigated or prosecuted. Then when crime is rampant, the State says “give us even more power!” and people do.

I currently live in a city with around 1 million. There has been no change in crime in my city since the riots of 2020, nor was there widespread violence in my city like the ones as seen on TV. The difference being, that I currently live in a state where people can defend themselves and there is police presence in my neighborhood. In fact, the police in my area immediately let go a driver who ran over a bunch of BLM/antifa for blocking their car. No arrest.

People have been moving in droves to my city from California, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, and New Jersey. If you think all cities are like Detroit, Chicago, or SF, you are completely wrong.

Translate into English you live in a place surrounded by liberals npcs and brainwashing and have been around it most your life so you don't want to let it go.
 
throwaway5683465 said:
How is this possible under authoritarianism? Especially when labor is being forced by a central government/authority, as other members in this thread confirmed. People need freedom to figure out who they are and their place in society.

This is something that, in nature, normally happens when you're a teenager. After that, you should have already overcome that phase and find your place in life. Unfortunately, currently the great majority of the population is experiencing developmental delays. Just think of how many people believe their 20s is too early to be married, when it's actually the right natural timing.

These delays happen because of mass brainwashing by the enemy and because in many country they set things up in a way that either there isn't enough opportunity for you to discover things in timely fashion or such opportunities are locked away being walls such as status, prestige, expectations, networking, and others.

This freedom was available in NS Germany and has always been available in our golden age civilisations, when people were in tune with the rhythms of nature. Nature is not your enemy. Sure, it may have laws that support you and laws that hinder you, but working with supporting laws will always allow you to rise, while laws that hinder you are there to show how to care of yourself and that what you're doing may be unwise, foolish or even immature and certainly not based on a positive part of yourself, but on a part of yourself that is nothing but dross.

Nature is impersonal. Not a entity deciding what's right and what's wrong. The only one responsible when things go wrong is you. Either because you're unwise, foolish, immature, or just weak and lack awareness. The things that are outside your control can be brought under control by using group tactics.

Freedom without awareness of consequences is nothing but chaos.

You don't want to work? So, how do you get food, water, clothes, etc? Do you want to enslave other people to work their ass to get those things for free so you can play videogames all day while you 'figure things out'? That's what you are asking for. So, where is this freedom you speak of? If people are working for you as slaves while you are 'free', people aren't free though. What happens if farmers don't go to work because 'people shouldn't be forced to work'? Nobody eats. Very simple. And everyone dies.

Think about things a bit more deeply, will you?
 
Stormblood said:
throwaway5683465 said:
How is this possible under authoritarianism? Especially when labor is being forced by a central government/authority, as other members in this thread confirmed. People need freedom to figure out who they are and their place in society.

This is something that, in nature, normally happens when you're a teenager. After that, you should have already overcome that phase and find your place in life. Unfortunately, currently the great majority of the population is experiencing developmental delays. Just think of how many people believe their 20s is too early to be married, when it's actually the right natural timing.

These delays happen because of mass brainwashing by the enemy and because in many country they set things up in a way that either there isn't enough opportunity for you to discover things in timely fashion or such opportunities are locked away being walls such as status, prestige, expectations, networking, and others.

This freedom was available in NS Germany and has always been available in our golden age civilisations, when people were in tune with the rhythms of nature. Nature is not your enemy. Sure, it may have laws that support you and laws that hinder you, but working with supporting laws will always allow you to rise, while laws that hinder you are there to show how to care of yourself and that what you're doing may be unwise, foolish or even immature and certainly not based on a positive part of yourself, but on a part of yourself that is nothing but dross.

Nature is impersonal. Not a entity deciding what's right and what's wrong. The only one responsible when things go wrong is you. Either because you're unwise, foolish, immature, or just weak and lack awareness. The things that are outside your control can be brought under control by using group tactics.

Freedom without awareness of consequences is nothing but chaos.

You don't want to work? So, how do you get food, water, clothes, etc? Do you want to enslave other people to work their ass to get those things for free so you can play videogames all day while you 'figure things out'? That's what you are asking for. So, where is this freedom you speak of? If people are working for you as slaves while you are 'free', people aren't free though. What happens if farmers don't go to work because 'people shouldn't be forced to work'? Nobody eats. Very simple. And everyone dies.

Think about things a bit more deeply, will you?

You are completely assuming only based upon things that you know. Who is to say that any of the stuff today is valid at all so far as the way a civilization should be. I think the whole thing needs to be rewritten by a bunch of people who know better.
 
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
throwaway5683465 said:
How is nature a benevolent dictator? If anything, nature is a BRUTAL dictator.

Natural law is you die before age 30. Natural law is you die if you get an injury or illness. Natural law is you die if it gets too hot or too cold. Natural law is there are no man-made laws, structures, or societies (aka chaos).

It is a fallacy to think that just because something is natural that it is good. Nobody here blindly follows natural law because not all natural laws are good! Some are good, and the bad ones we tend to circumvent using technology.
You’re a fucking idiot. It’s a fallacy to think that natural law means society has to be some anarcho-primitivist dump. You are very intellectually dishonest by purposefully refusing to understand and misconstruing what everyone has been telling you. I only see a subverter in you. You would use your main account if you weren’t such a rat.


I mean the fact that he's here out of all places trying to tell US about nature and natural law....

OP, again, read the website if you want help that practically spoon feeds you all this information especially if you're going to use the words "natural law" in your vocabulary when speaking to us. It sounds pompous of me yes but come on now bro understand where you're at. We're the real deal so it's not me being snooty when it comes to this. It's best to rethink your approach on these replies before you really start embarrassing yourself and no one wants that.
 
I was just saying the way people are thinking now in the modern times (translation to English Reptilian Era) doesn't apply to the way it is supposed to be.
 
slyscorpion said:
throwaway5683465 said:
slyscorpion said:
Best example Detroit Chicago San Francisco ok tell me you would willingly choose to live in one of those cities and actually enjoy it. Didn't think so. Has full on mixing ever really fully turned out in a good way for the whole of a society in History. I really can't think of very many examples where it has and when it did work it only did for awhile until things started to degenerate as time went on.

I was actually born and raised in one of those cities that you mentioned. You have absolutely no idea if you are blaming race for the crime and poverty issues there.

Even growing up I could have told you the issue. The State throws the book at law abiding citizens legally defending themselves, and focuses the rest of their effort on exploiting people through fees, penalties, and fines. Criminals are often not investigated or prosecuted. Then when crime is rampant, the State says “give us even more power!” and people do.

I currently live in a city with around 1 million. There has been no change in crime in my city since the riots of 2020, nor was there widespread violence in my city like the ones as seen on TV. The difference being, that I currently live in a state where people can defend themselves and there is police presence in my neighborhood. In fact, the police in my area immediately let go a driver who ran over a bunch of BLM/antifa for blocking their car. No arrest.

People have been moving in droves to my city from California, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, and New Jersey. If you think all cities are like Detroit, Chicago, or SF, you are completely wrong.

Translate into English you live in a place surrounded by liberals npcs and brainwashing and have been around it most your life so you don't want to let it go.

There is some truth like what he said about the state being corrupt and being unjust (which anyone can read up o and most liberals do and love to bring it up only to push their short sighted narrative instead of looking at the whole picture) but he's obviously from the nicer areas of that city since otherwise he would know there's *a lot* of people who do crime for the sake of it in these areas. Imagine telling people here who are from the gutter themselves that these poor people are pacifists or something. Most are literally the opposite and would more than happy run you up if you're a stranger who let your guard down around them. We don't even have to play this game of he said she said either. The interent exists and we know it's complete bullshit to say the crime doesn't have to do at least something with race. Yes it's those other things too but race is also a major factor and for example some black people from the hood and even some hispanics will make that shit clear to you if you're on their bad side and another race.
 

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