PhantomWarrior
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Hello all you fine brothers & sisters. I hope that your path to divinity is met well.
I am not posting much here. Mostly a rant because I myself have been overcome with some amazement and mystification by the very topic of etymology, particularly Ancient Greek language and words that so deeply connect us to the origin of our spiritual path and very nature of existence. I can't overstate that this has been a most uplifting subject thus, the origin of words in English as we so commonly misinterpret today.
My question is very aimless here but I had two words that bothered me recently. In Latin we have a very interesting word 'Sagio' (I perceive; to perceive quickly or keenly with the senses or with intellect). It has a 3rd entry on Wiktionary (3. to know or to use magic)... a word that seems unchanged, given Ancient Greek, Latin, Persian, or what have you... one who conjures, performs miracles and so forth. A very broad explanation yet one that we understand here better than anyone.
Now this first word, 'sagio', is the root word of sagacious, to be wise; in a sense like a sage I suppose. The word 'sage' roots to Latin 'sagio' (to be wise, or sensible, discreet, prudent).
Whilst in contrast, on Wiktionary it states that 'sagio' (Latin) is a cognate (Latin: com/together + natus/birth; i.e sharing the same origin in some manner or other) to Ancient Greek ἡγέομαι (hāgéomai) which means (to go before, precede; to lead the way, guide).
This is a most confoundedly complex and aimless interpretation in my view as to how these two words can share any sort of commonality. I would to the utmost of my very being be wished to rid myself of current etymology and to understand the above two languages more clearly, that which composes the most of modern-day English. If any single individual here has any suggestions for reading materials, further study or anything I would be beyond words more than grateful.
A final aside, not that this hasn't been worked towards before, but would any of the mods or such suppose that our forums could mayhaps benefit to having a sort-of historical language group or sub-forum? I know that there has been (if not still) for a time a group in which one could learn and study Ancient Greek. This brought me immense joy; however, I'd much be overjoyed to see something more general and collaborative in that sense. Something such as an ancient lagnuage topic page perhaps? I know that is asking a whole lot yet I figured I should put my feelings out there as for one reason or another, I think that language in a general sense has equal value to that of health and wellness. Forgive me for being blunt stating that, I just am simply one that is beyond expression enamoured with learning about languages in general, any-and-all.
Thank you all for bearing through me with my rant as I have mentioned. I am not happy with the state of linguistics, but who can be happy with the state of anything truth be told? Archaeologists? Scientists? Spiritualists? Regardless of what topic we fasten ourselves towards mastering, we will surely find issues. In regards to language, I feel to an extreme degree that something or (((some group))) have been slowly removing the meaning from meaningful words and have been making words more complex and vague whilst obsoleting and removing older definitions. I read one study that I wish I could find which stated that many hundreds (perhaps over a thousand) ancient Germanic words had been changed in some way. I simply am very discontented with the state of these things and thus if any one of you have suggestions for me in way where I could commense further research and acquire further understanding I'd be more than thankful. I know that old historical dictionaries are a good start. Books like the World Dictionary on archive.com and such other sources do indeed give us more words that that which we are given by the highly sold-out (IMO) OED and the Oxford University ilk that run that program. Only but a few people control the words of the modern English language and I cannot help but think that control over language, (George Orwell's "new-speak"), has been an ongoing issue since the 1300's-1500's of Rome, as far as my tiny understanding can see anyhow.
Thank you for your patience and if you have read this far you are most surely a very kind-hearted and patient soul. May you all be well and blessings to you all!
I am not posting much here. Mostly a rant because I myself have been overcome with some amazement and mystification by the very topic of etymology, particularly Ancient Greek language and words that so deeply connect us to the origin of our spiritual path and very nature of existence. I can't overstate that this has been a most uplifting subject thus, the origin of words in English as we so commonly misinterpret today.
My question is very aimless here but I had two words that bothered me recently. In Latin we have a very interesting word 'Sagio' (I perceive; to perceive quickly or keenly with the senses or with intellect). It has a 3rd entry on Wiktionary (3. to know or to use magic)... a word that seems unchanged, given Ancient Greek, Latin, Persian, or what have you... one who conjures, performs miracles and so forth. A very broad explanation yet one that we understand here better than anyone.
Now this first word, 'sagio', is the root word of sagacious, to be wise; in a sense like a sage I suppose. The word 'sage' roots to Latin 'sagio' (to be wise, or sensible, discreet, prudent).
Whilst in contrast, on Wiktionary it states that 'sagio' (Latin) is a cognate (Latin: com/together + natus/birth; i.e sharing the same origin in some manner or other) to Ancient Greek ἡγέομαι (hāgéomai) which means (to go before, precede; to lead the way, guide).
This is a most confoundedly complex and aimless interpretation in my view as to how these two words can share any sort of commonality. I would to the utmost of my very being be wished to rid myself of current etymology and to understand the above two languages more clearly, that which composes the most of modern-day English. If any single individual here has any suggestions for reading materials, further study or anything I would be beyond words more than grateful.
A final aside, not that this hasn't been worked towards before, but would any of the mods or such suppose that our forums could mayhaps benefit to having a sort-of historical language group or sub-forum? I know that there has been (if not still) for a time a group in which one could learn and study Ancient Greek. This brought me immense joy; however, I'd much be overjoyed to see something more general and collaborative in that sense. Something such as an ancient lagnuage topic page perhaps? I know that is asking a whole lot yet I figured I should put my feelings out there as for one reason or another, I think that language in a general sense has equal value to that of health and wellness. Forgive me for being blunt stating that, I just am simply one that is beyond expression enamoured with learning about languages in general, any-and-all.
Thank you all for bearing through me with my rant as I have mentioned. I am not happy with the state of linguistics, but who can be happy with the state of anything truth be told? Archaeologists? Scientists? Spiritualists? Regardless of what topic we fasten ourselves towards mastering, we will surely find issues. In regards to language, I feel to an extreme degree that something or (((some group))) have been slowly removing the meaning from meaningful words and have been making words more complex and vague whilst obsoleting and removing older definitions. I read one study that I wish I could find which stated that many hundreds (perhaps over a thousand) ancient Germanic words had been changed in some way. I simply am very discontented with the state of these things and thus if any one of you have suggestions for me in way where I could commense further research and acquire further understanding I'd be more than thankful. I know that old historical dictionaries are a good start. Books like the World Dictionary on archive.com and such other sources do indeed give us more words that that which we are given by the highly sold-out (IMO) OED and the Oxford University ilk that run that program. Only but a few people control the words of the modern English language and I cannot help but think that control over language, (George Orwell's "new-speak"), has been an ongoing issue since the 1300's-1500's of Rome, as far as my tiny understanding can see anyhow.
Thank you for your patience and if you have read this far you are most surely a very kind-hearted and patient soul. May you all be well and blessings to you all!