summoning elementaries

[Seth1]

hey all,
would u all think it wise to summon elementaries using a magical
circle/magical triangle from "franz bardon's : the practice of magical
evocation"?
let me hear your thoughs on this.
Im really interested in summoning elementaries.

 

[Joe Swift]

In a word, NOOOOOOO!!!!! Franz Bardon was with the enemy, he tried to
manipulate the elemntal kingdoms through threats. If you wish to talk
to the elementals, it is more polite to go to them int heir own
kingdoms, it's in the book, Franz Bardon's: Introduction to Hermetics
We as satanists should become friends with them, we have no need to try
and coherse them into anything.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Seth" <jri9vero@... wrote:

hey all,
would u all think it wise to summon elementaries using a magical
circle/magical triangle from "franz bardon's : the practice of
magical
evocation"?
let me hear your thoughs on this.
Im really interested in summoning elementaries.

 

[Seth1]

that's more of an expression lol
Satan gave franz bardon his info. so i thought it was ok -and i
thought u were never to try to summon only demons in this way...
guess it applies to everything.
Befriending them is the hard part if u have trouble Astral
projecting. U know of any good techniques/guide/tips?
Much obliged!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Joe Swift"
<IH8WHIT@... wrote:

In a word, NOOOOOOO!!!!! Franz Bardon was with the enemy, he tried

to

manipulate the elemntal kingdoms through threats. If you wish to

talk

to the elementals, it is more polite to go to them int heir own
kingdoms, it's in the book, Franz Bardon's: Introduction to

Hermetics

We as satanists should become friends with them, we have no need

to try

and coherse them into anything.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Seth" <jri9vero@

wrote:

hey all,
would u all think it wise to summon elementaries using a

magical

circle/magical triangle from "franz bardon's : the practice of
magical
evocation"?
let me hear your thoughs on this.
Im really interested in summoning elementaries.

 

[Joe Swift]

Mah literazy wah neva dat gud
But, ona more serious note...I have some real trouble with astral
projection tooo, and astral deception, the amount of times it happens
makes me want to cry, lol.
Anyways, what I have found works best for me is when i imagine remote
view (imagine) looking at my body from in fornt of me.
Then, see your astral self stand up and walk out of your body, and
then connect your mental body (where you're remote viewing from) to
your astral body (basically, move into it).
Don't move too far from your body at first, just stretch it a bit,
then move back to your body, walk a bit further etc,etc.
Eventually you'll be able to walk away a lot further, and then onto
the astral plains!!!

Good Luck!!!
Hail Satan!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Seth" <jri9vero@...
wrote:

that's more of an expression lol
Satan gave franz bardon his info. so i thought it was ok -and i
thought u were never to try to summon only demons in this way...
guess it applies to everything.
Befriending them is the hard part if u have trouble Astral
projecting. U know of any good techniques/guide/tips?
Much obliged!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Joe Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

In a word, NOOOOOOO!!!!! Franz Bardon was with the enemy, he

tried

to
manipulate the elemntal kingdoms through threats. If you wish to
talk
to the elementals, it is more polite to go to them int heir own
kingdoms, it's in the book, Franz Bardon's: Introduction to
Hermetics
We as satanists should become friends with them, we have no need
to try
and coherse them into anything.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Seth" <jri9vero@
wrote:

hey all,
would u all think it wise to summon elementaries using a
magical
circle/magical triangle from "franz bardon's : the practice of
magical
evocation"?
let me hear your thoughs on this.
Im really interested in summoning elementaries.

 

[Seth1]

then i have some gud news fur ya.
try downloading files from an author named dick sutphen. i almost
astral projected on my 1st try! and if u don't, ull be APing a LOT
more spontaneously. I have the files so just buzz me if u need em.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Joe Swift"
<IH8WHIT@... wrote:

Mah literazy wah neva dat gud
But, ona more serious note...I have some real trouble with astral
projection tooo, and astral deception, the amount of times it

happens

makes me want to cry, lol.
Anyways, what I have found works best for me is when i imagine

remote

view (imagine) looking at my body from in fornt of me.
Then, see your astral self stand up and walk out of your body, and
then connect your mental body (where you're remote viewing from)

to

your astral body (basically, move into it).
Don't move too far from your body at first, just stretch it a bit,
then move back to your body, walk a bit further etc,etc.
Eventually you'll be able to walk away a lot further, and then

onto

the astral plains!!!

Good Luck!!!
Hail Satan!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Seth" <jri9vero@
wrote:

that's more of an expression lol
Satan gave franz bardon his info. so i thought it was ok -and i
thought u were never to try to summon only demons in this way...
guess it applies to everything.
Befriending them is the hard part if u have trouble Astral
projecting. U know of any good techniques/guide/tips?
Much obliged!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Joe Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

In a word, NOOOOOOO!!!!! Franz Bardon was with the enemy, he
tried
to
manipulate the elemntal kingdoms through threats. If you wish

to

talk
to the elementals, it is more polite to go to them int heir

own

kingdoms, it's in the book, Franz Bardon's: Introduction to
Hermetics
We as satanists should become friends with them, we have no

need

to try
and coherse them into anything.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Seth" <jri9vero@
wrote:

hey all,
would u all think it wise to summon elementaries using a
magical
circle/magical triangle from "franz bardon's : the practice

of

magical
evocation"?
let me hear your thoughs on this.
Im really interested in summoning elementaries.

 

[Kevin Ikari]

It's all about the intention. If your circle/triangle is for the
purpose of protection/binding then that would be very offensive and a
no-no. If the circle is used to create a sacred space to keep out the
mundane then I don't see the harm. While the triangle is supposed to
aid in manifestation it still feels constricting to me so I would stay
away from it. Before you attempt anything that you think may be
offensive, meditate upon it first and ask them for advice.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Seth" <jri9vero@... wrote:

hey all,
would u all think it wise to summon elementaries using a magical
circle/magical triangle from "franz bardon's : the practice of magical
evocation"?
let me hear your thoughs on this.
Im really interested in summoning elementaries.