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Some Questions About Planetary Squares Answered

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos3 min to read

So I wanted to answer quickly some really popular questions about the squares. The Kabbalistic Squares are not the easiest of workings, but they can be the real keys to make functional changes in life.

For those who might be newer and don't understand yet what this post is about, refer to this page:
https://templeofzeus.org/Planetary_Squares.php

1. Do you completely re-do the square if you fail the amount of repetitions for the day? No, you don't have to.

You can let it go for this day and affirm that the energy for this day is cancelled, and do this later in the day with the correct amount of repetitions, after let's say some hours. For this to work, you need to be within the same planetary date.

For example, at 32 reps for the day, you are confused and you do 33. Before you do the affirmation, if you know you have been wrong, program this energy to do something else or let it dissipate. Allow 1 hour to pass, and then do again 32 for the same day, with the correct affirmation.

2. The real "daily" day for this square is the planetary date, not the date of the regular clock. Ie, you can conclude the same reps for this day until about 6 AM per day, and if you lose it at 12 AM, you didn't lose the day.

Check out planetary hours. Based on the conventional time calendar, the "day" changes at 12 AM. That is not accurate, it is false. You can still do a working for that day from the Sunrise of one day to the Sunrise of the next, which is typically at 6 AM. At 6 AM, the real next planetary day occurs.

The real day changes on about 6 AM broadly based on Planetary hours and the Sunrise in each location.

3. If you do a completely wrong number for the day and you affirm it, the square is gone, you must restart it.

4. If you muffle specific words or forget some of the mantra, you need to redo it for the day. It must be said accurately. Cracks of the throat, loss or short syllabes that were said, are OK. Only a wrong flat mispronouncing should be taken as a failed vibration, as in Gram to Sram.

5. If you have a set number of affirmation after it, like let's say 8, and you say 9, it is not a big problem. But it is better to stay always within the same number.

6. If you mumble the affirmation by accident, you can follow up and do it all again for the day.

7. Be aware that the higher the amount of focus and inner power, the better the outcomes of the squares.

The above is verified by those that have done hundreds of squares, and I had other advanced Zevism verify the situation before anything. Additionally, extensive experimentation that was necessitated and none of the above would have been written unless there was 100% certainty which was attained through extensive experimentation and consultation with the Demons on this.

Similar rules can also apply to other workings where there are set numbers of repetitions and affirmations.

One further information about the Squares is that the Methdodology that HPS Pythia has given on them is extremely powerful, and is based on the see-saw pattern or Boustrophedon, which has to do the serpentine movement and working. That is one of the reasons these squares are very powerful.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#41

For example, if I make 23 instead of 22.
Then at the end, instead of the original confirmation, I say, for example, 9 times that "this - - - - square is invalid" .
Then in an hour I might as well do that day's square?
Which I messed up.

#42
Fanboysaid:
slyscorpionsaid:

If someone wanted to do a spiritual or material square on someone else for whatever reason (obviously only focusing on something positive and that you would not mind connecting to or done to yourself as this wouldn't be safe for you otherwise I do know that) is it less effective or more effective if the person doing the square on someone is more powerful than the person it's being done on. Does this work.

You must have a good friend if he's stronger than you and you still want to help him like that. I'm sure they really appreciate you :)

The actual point is saving and advancing as many people as possible. Even if they do not choose to do it themselves. Since this is actually one thing that can make quick changes to a person if you can figure out where someones problem is it's useful you want them to be freed to advance and live a higher level of existing.

The other thing is reading their subconscious mind and reversing exact the block or programming with runes similar to the way. Rituals work but more personal. This kind of thing will work on anyone but it may take awhile. So choose target carefully.

#43

When is the sun in Leo, Aries, Aquarius and Libra?

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"Watch your thoughts, they become your words; watch your words, they become your actions; watch your actions, they become your habits; watch your habits, they become your character; watch your character, it becomes your destiny." - Lao Tzu

#44

And I'm so glad that I don't have to wait for one square[say the spiritual] to be over before I start the material. Because sometimes I have to wait for weeks.
I have a question on the SVAHA and Nama. Since the SVAHA is the spiritual and Nama is for a material manifestation, which brings me to the Money Spell given. Is the SVAHA not suppose to be Namah. Or is it that one is to do SVAHA for like an empowering of money energy then do the Nama for a material manifestation? Because I also saw online someone post this mantra with the exchange of SVAHA to Nama

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HAIL ZEUS!

#45
SeguaceDiSatanasaid:

I don't know how to thank you, HP, for this very useful post. I was making some squares and this post was very useful and will be very useful.
Just one question, similar to the one they have already asked you, please: can you perform two squares of the same planet in the same period (with different statements of course) but BOTH with material purpose (Nama)?

Yes you can, cos I think u got power to do whatever you want, but that's not the answer.
The Answer is No. U can't do same material square twice at the same time. Makes no sense..

HAIL ZEUS ♾️
HP ZEVIOS IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME! GREAT TEACHER WITH BIGGEST HEART FOR THIS FAMILY!
HAIL ZEUS!

#46
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

So I wanted to answer quickly some really popular questions about the squares. The Kabbalistic Squares are not the easiest of workings, but they can be the real keys to make functional changes in life.

For those who might be newer and don't understand yet what this post is about, refer to this page:
https://templeofzeus.org/Planetary_Squares.php

...
-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Can we end the affirmation with "AUM" and a big Hail Zeus?
Also, what to do with the paper after the square is finished?
Is it okay to burn it at the next corresponding day and hour?

#47
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

So I wanted to answer quickly some really popular questions about the squares. The Kabbalistic Squares are not the easiest of workings, but they can be the real keys to make functional changes in life.

That is great information to know. I think something similar should be written about the Rituals. Questions like:
- Is the Ritual still effective if we did not vibrated/chanted the letters the exact required number of times?
- Is the Ritual still effective if we said the affirmations a wrong number of times?
- Is the Ritual still effective if we cannot loudly chant/vibrate it?
- Does the Ritual still count for that day if the letters were vibrated/chanted a wrong number of times?

And similar questions. I think the Rituals are still very effective irrespective of what minor mistakes are done but such post might clear up potential confusion.

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#48
Henu the Greatsaid:
Stormbloodsaid:

Also, if any programmer is reading, I had a problem with bigot boy's desktop app two days ago: it doesn't load anymore. It just shows the initial godot logo, then shuts down. Maybe Windows did something about it. Thankfully, I remember perfectly where I am at with each square and the affirmations, and could make a spreadsheet to make up for it temporarily. Do you know if there is a way to revive it without uninstalling and reinstalling? Or at least how to salvage the current squares and progress from the malfunctioning app's code?

I found that Master Squares saves the progress into a folder. The path is: /AppData/Roaming/Godot/app_userdata/MasterSquares/Saves

I don't know if the software will recognize the save file automatically when you enter it into that folder with a new installation.

Thanks. I will have a look

Last update: 05/07/2025 (all links updated, except the useful reads)

Apologies if I'm being slow on private messages. I will get back to you at some point.

Heil Zeus!
Heil Apollo!
Satanama!

#49

I'm sorry to be talking about something besides the squares but you see I'm unable to start a new topic. What am I missing? I can't see the "start a new topic" option anywhere. I know I've started them before and I've got things to share with everybody.

#50

Is it okay to complement planetary squares with other workings?
For example doing a mercury square to increase intelligence and doing a separate working with mannaz also for intelligence using the same affirmation as the planetary square?

I am reaching towards a green apple.

#51
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Can I also do them silently in my head, will they still be effective Zevios Metathronos?

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"Watch your thoughts, they become your words; watch your words, they become your actions; watch your actions, they become your habits; watch your habits, they become your character; watch your character, it becomes your destiny." - Lao Tzu

#52
OhNoItsMooksaid:

Yeah, I forgot an affirmation for my material Jupiter square. I'm already halfway in. I didn't see that piece of text, as I went off of the Satan's Magickal Squares pdf and ctrl+F'd straight down to Jupiter.

If I make an affirmation now, it should still be fine, right? From what I'm guessing, all the energy raised up until now would direct properly once an affirmation is established.

Oh my, that's a true question and I have experienced this too. I too would like to know what to do in this case.

HAIL ZEUS ♾️
HP ZEVIOS IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME! GREAT TEACHER WITH BIGGEST HEART FOR THIS FAMILY!
HAIL ZEUS!

#53
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Dear HP,
I wanted to ask you for an opinion. Once, after completing a solar square, I had a physical collapse, that is, I was not well ... in your opinion what could have happened in that case? thank you

"Don't let anyone stop you. Not even your own self."

#54

I have a question that's been bothering me for a long time about planetary squares and natal planets. I've read here somewhere that if some of one's natal planets is on a bad degree, doing its square is just going to make it "explode", i.e. make things for worse for one.
For example, one has Mars on a really sh*tty degree and as a ruler of the 8th house. Is it dangerous for that person to do the Mars square or one can "turn it" into something positive with the right affirmation?

HS!

„Ich kann nur für etwas kämpfen, was ich liebe. Ich kann nur lieben, was ich respektiere. Und um eine Sache zu respektieren, muss ich zumindest einiges darüber wissen.“

Hail Zeus!

#55
Lightningsnakesaid:

For example, if I make 23 instead of 22.
Then at the end, instead of the original confirmation, I say, for example, 9 times that "this - - - - square is invalid" .
Then in an hour I might as well do that day's square?
Which I messed up.

You don't affirm the square "invalid", you can just say no affirmation or say "this energy is cancelled for today" or something like this, move on with your day, wait for about one hour or hours [before the day passes], and restart on the correct number of vibrations for the day, then doing the actual affirmation for the square correctly.

#56
Aquariussaid:

Is it okay to complement planetary squares with other workings?
For example doing a mercury square to increase intelligence and doing a separate working with mannaz also for intelligence using the same affirmation as the planetary square?

Yes, it definitely is OK to do this.

But it's good when your output for a working is big like this, to not fail the Square, because it will cause a gap in the energy of the working, for example.

#57
The Alchemist7said:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

So I wanted to answer quickly some really popular questions about the squares. The Kabbalistic Squares are not the easiest of workings, but they can be the real keys to make functional changes in life.

That is great information to know. I think something similar should be written about the Rituals. Questions like:
- Is the Ritual still effective if we did not vibrated/chanted the letters the exact required number of times?
- Is the Ritual still effective if we said the affirmations a wrong number of times?
- Is the Ritual still effective if we cannot loudly chant/vibrate it?
- Does the Ritual still count for that day if the letters were vibrated/chanted a wrong number of times?

And similar questions. I think the Rituals are still very effective irrespective of what minor mistakes are done but such post might clear up potential confusion.

I have answered most of this but understandably the answers are burried beneath a heap of too many replies.

Q1. Yes, it is effective.
Q2. Yes, it is effective.
Q3. Yes, it can be done mentally or silently, but it's better to be heard/audible. But it works silent or even in your mind, for sure.
Q4. Yes, it does.

It's actually more "lax" than the squares, because too many of us are doing it on a daily, and we have done it, so it's a given mass work now.

I think the Rituals are still very effective irrespective of what minor mistakes are done - yes, absolutely.

#58
SyrArisMarsMartinsaid:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

So I wanted to answer quickly some really popular questions about the squares. The Kabbalistic Squares are not the easiest of workings, but they can be the real keys to make functional changes in life.

For those who might be newer and don't understand yet what this post is about, refer to this page:
https://templeofzeus.org/Planetary_Squares.php

...
-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Can we end the affirmation with "AUM" and a big Hail Satan?
Also, what to do with the paper after the square is finished?
Is it okay to burn it at the next corresponding day and hour?

Q1. Yes, no issue here. Do as you feel.
Q2. You can burn the paper or even better bury it. Burial is better. You can even shred the paper. The paper square is not a sigil, it's just an instruction manual for the number of reps.
Q3. Yes, you can burn it.

#59
The Alchemist7said:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

So I wanted to answer quickly some really popular questions about the squares. The Kabbalistic Squares are not the easiest of workings, but they can be the real keys to make functional changes in life.

That is great information to know. I think something similar should be written about the Rituals. Questions like:
- Is the Ritual still effective if we did not vibrated/chanted the letters the exact required number of times?
- Is the Ritual still effective if we said the affirmations a wrong number of times?
- Is the Ritual still effective if we cannot loudly chant/vibrate it?
- Does the Ritual still count for that day if the letters were vibrated/chanted a wrong number of times?

And similar questions. I think the Rituals are still very effective irrespective of what minor mistakes are done but such post might clear up potential confusion.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=60932

Another topic addressing questions about the Ritual's too.

#60

Do extra repeats ruin the working? In Turkish website, there is some extra information about squares, which says "If you had lose the count, you can do extra repeats, this does not ruin the working." Should I remove this part?

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