So Who Then, Can Join Zevism?

[Hs666]

You are correct about all the above. It however didn't answer the question.

When I talk about entities, I mean exactly what you mean that is, “alien scum.”

 

[Ashrast]

When I talk about entities, I mean exactly what you mean that is, “alien scum.”

Yes and it didn't answer the question really. I don't think they are in "agony" and assuming the Gods would punish such offenders with merely abandoning them doesn't make sense. They are active offenders causing problems to many forms of life for a long time now. Your answers merely addressed issues I never raised and that don't apply to me, in addition to complicating the matter altogether.

It's good to know that the Gods do enforce justice and people like Mao Zedong allegedly wind up in Tartarus. It would also be good to know of how the Gods punish the non-human beings who offend Ma'at frankly way more than humans, and consistently work behind the scenes to accelerate things going in the direction of Izfet down here.

 

[Hs666]

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The Gods do not confront them. They dwell on higher planes of existence where these entities cannot reach them or interfere with them in any way.

These entities you mention are subject to Yehubor’s will. They are part of a lower plane of existence, among those that exist.

The Antithesis of Ma'at, “evil/chaos,” as already stated in previous answers, cannot be permanently eliminated, because this would lead to the collapse of the universe. The Gods will never intervene to extinguish the source of evil, Yehubor, and its “byproducts.”

This would lead to a disruption of the cosmic order (Ma'at), with grave consequences.

The problem of yehubor and the “alien entities” is ours, not directly that of the Gods. The Gods do not grant them salvation, leaving them in their destructive vortex. In this way, the principle of Order is perfectly upheld. Balance, Order, and free will are perfectly respected.

 

[Ashrast]

The Gods do not confront them. They dwell on higher planes of existence where these entities cannot reach them or interfere with them in any way.

These entities you mention are subject to Yehubor’s will. They are part of a lower plane of existence, among those that exist.

The Antithesis of Ma'at, “evil/chaos,” as already stated in previous answers, cannot be permanently eliminated, because this would lead to the collapse of the universe. The Gods will never intervene to extinguish the source of evil, Yehubor, and its “byproducts.”

This would lead to a disruption of the cosmic order (Ma'at), with grave consequences.

The problem of yehubor and the “alien entities” is ours, not directly that of the Gods. The Gods do not grant them salvation, leaving them in their destructive vortex. In this way, the principle of Order is perfectly upheld. Balance, Order, and free will are perfectly respected.

I think you misunderstand me completely.

I haven't implied anywhere these beings threaten the Gods. The Gods as we understand them now are even beyond just dwelling on higher planes. They may have astral bodies or other parts of consciousness in higher planes, but they are beyond that.

Take Hermes. He can't be detached from any plane of existence, as he represents the very force of thought itself, and communication, things that happen even on the lowest plane (material plane).

As you can see, my point was never about the Gods being touched by the enemy or interfered with.

My point was about the obvious fact that some entities have advanced in psychic power and technology while being Yehuboric, and are a serious plague. They accelerate the process of many other civilizations going in the direction of Izfet, as they have been doing on earth for instance.

The Gods can't look down and see this and just leave these entities alone as you claim. They can't be like, "Let's merely judge the humans, the rest can offend Ma'at and we won't do anything about it". That does not make sense.

These entities aren't subject to Yehubor's will, they are Yehubor. Yehubor means beings that claim to be God or of God but are lacking the essence of God. Izfet is the force behind it and is the universal issue, Yehubor is more like beings who have been so corrupted by it that the title can be applied for them (can also be humans as in the case of what we are seeing on earth).

From my understanding and logic, at some point in their evolution, these beings followed the path of Izfet to a very high degree and although they have advanced tech and some psychic power, they are just bringers of Izfet. This is why they are obsessed with things like microchipping entire civilisations and wiping the individual consciousness, pushing destruction and bastardizing civilization etc.

You're subconsciously creating answers that provide you the most comfort, as you genuinely do not have the answer for the question. In this case, the answer that the Gods don't do anything about these entities is an easy and comfortable one as it removes the need to answer the question why these beings have offended in our world for so long yet we understand the Gods to be superior.

The notion that the Gods can sit back and watch offenders of Ma'at commit endless offenses and not do anything to them assumes there is something special about one class of offenders than another. Humans are held accountable but others aren't. That would mean the Gods are not really Gods and can't impose their will on some beings, which is definitely not the case. I think the judgement of Ma'at and the Gods is universal, even if it's on a planet a billion light years away. By this logic, even the higher ups on the side of Yehubor do get judged accordingly by the Gods, and this is enforced.

I think the real answer is more like the Gods simply destroy such entities regularly. Also, this is specifically done by the Daemons who are in charge of guarding our world and civilization down here. The higher Gods oversee the entire cosmos, the Daemons have more specific roles such as being guardians to advancing humans, and even protecting the world from serious threats such as these entities.

The alien Yehuborim are parasitic and thrive off of our psychic energy, which is what has continously sustained them and kept their interest in our world rife. If humans collectively improve spiritually and the supply of psychic energy through the pointless suffering and also programs like Christianity ends, they simply lack a host in our world. It becomes costly to stay around beings you can't leech off of, or otherwise corrupt in any way. The parasite can't find fertile ground and thus leaves.

Another thing to keep in mind is that these entities are very different from our Daemons. A Daemon like Asclepius is the same as He was 5000 years ago or something. He is Eternal. But a random Grey is just a single unit that is easily replaced. There is a very strong hive mind thing on that side as anyone who has studied the alien topic knows. They are highly fungible and merely exist to fulfill a programmed role. If you destroy a million, it makes no difference. It's like manufacturing in a factory, new ones are made in no time. This is perhaps a factor in why the problem persists and why the bigger goal is not in wiping them out but in empowering humanity to a higher level immune to their influences.

Lastly, Izfet isn't Yehubor exactly. Yehuborim are a manifestation of Izfet, including even their higher ups. Izfet shows up in pathological liars, thieves, rapists and all kinds of offenders of divine law and order. Of course, if someone robs a bank you can't call them Yehubor. But that is definitely a form of Izfet manifesting in the person, a deviation of the soul from Ma'at. We've had human civilisation for tens of thousands of years, way before we had to deal with Yehubor. Yet even tens of thousands of years ago, Izfet was still a problem people had to address regularly.

The Gods destroying Yehuboric entities, human or otherwise, isn't destroying Izfet itself . It's more like punishing specific offenders of Ma'at who have gone too far. Izfet remains and the struggle is eternal. But there is judgement for those who cross certain lines, as Yehuborim certainly do. Equating Izfet with Yehubor prevents you from seeing this. In fact I don't think these beings even really understand Izfet or care much about it, yet they are fully in that level of existence as to manifest it very highly.

They don't necessarily walk around like "Look at me, I am serving Izfet and I am here to bring it to your soul", they have simply degenerated to where Izfet is very normal and natural for them. A parasite doesn't understand that it's a parasite, its insane manner of life makes total sense to it, to give an example.

If the problem of Yehuboric entities was entirely ours (especially those that operate from the astral), then why would there ever have been a spiritual war with our Daemons?